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Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Finally I've made a move. TyTN X Sony Crossover Custom Headphones.
I've used a solder to remove the original earbuds wire and soldered a pair of cut SONY MDR-EX71SL headphones on. They sound 100 times better than the stock ones. This will ease my frustrations for now. I was tempted to solder my MDR-EX90LP on but they are $100 a pair. Too much for now
Later on I will try to rework the stock mini USB headphone and make a 2.5mm connector for it so I can use all kinds of headphones(with mic) and connect to a speaker system as I want!
EDIT: It appears that the original mini USB headset has 6 wires, 4 should be for the headphones and the remaining 2 for the mic, I can simply cut up the wire right after the mini USB port and connect the 6 wires to a standard cell phone headset 2.5mm connector then I should be able to connect the TyTN to all kinds of headsets![/img]
Arent you essentially doin this? http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html as seen in another post, seems like the most universal way to solve the problem.
I do like the way you built a set without a plug, cleaner..less cord and weight, but I know myself, I go through a pair of headphones about every 2 months on my mp3 player, Id hate to have to redo the soldering everytime, I expect with the headphones being such an issue for most peple that the market will be flodded in a month or so with headphones for the tytn, or atleast adapters, shoot, the one guy in the above url even offered to do it for free, as long as you bought the plug.
is there still no adaptor available to buy?
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
crash74 said:
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
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@crash74
Looks very good, even more solid than the other solution, but how do you open the unit to reach the print, is their any trick?!
Can i also use the new connection as a line-out for little active stereo boxes, or is this to tricky for TyTn/boxes?
worked like a dream i have no more crapy hissing inbetween tracks and now i can play my song thu my hi-fi that 1 to the modders and 0 to htc
Adapter usb to 3.5 jack
Go to semsons.com, they have the adapter
qing84, I have the same headphones as u=) firstly I solve this problem like you, but I smash the small "black box"=) with mic and volume control, and i was need connect my mdr-ex71 directly to TyTN without "black box"=(
I was glad that i did it, because sound became much more louder, and more clean...
qing84 said:
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
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umm...you could have just bought this.... http://www.cellphoneshop.net/auadforci85.html
i think its a good idea to replace the head phone leaving the mic in workin condition.as there is no connector is still available at least in my town.i ll try it tomorrow.thanx dude
Anyone find a good wired headset (with microphone) replacement for the 8525/TyTn/Hermes? The one that came with the phone hurts my ears ... and I don't mind being plugged in (so don't need bluetooth) when I am making long conference calls.
You can go to a Verizon store and ask for an earpiece gel. Those are like adapters that you attach to your headset or whatever you call it. The adapters come in 3 sizes and work very well. ...
you can use any 3.5mm headset with this adaptor
works great with my noise cancelling headphones
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=144705
I have the official Samsung cardock, and connected it to my car radio (the cardock has a 3.5mm jack output). Nice, now I can listen to the music on my phone over my carspeakers!
BUT:
Whenever I make or receive a call, the sound of the conversation keeps channeling through the phone's own external speaker. Disabling the phone's external speaker (either during the call or beforehand) does not fix it. It just néver get's through the 3.5mm jack output to my car stereo. Annoying, since my car is pretty loud when speeding.
[Q]How to channel the audio of a voicecall to the jack-output? Does anybody know of a fix for this? I have looked around-and-around-and-around, and have asked this before. Just can't believe I'm the only-one that is bothered by this!
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR BLUETOOTH-CARKIT-SUGGESTIONS, no matter how nice you guys mean it
Anybody any idea?
Nobody no ideas?
I would like to do this too, speeding along the motorway the phone speaker is just too quiet.
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I would like to do this too, speeding along the motorway the phone speaker is just too quiet.
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Ah, at least I'm not the only one... Now let's hope some dev is bothered by the same problem
I guess this is gonna be one of those unanswered questions...
Bump-bumptie-dum
I recon if I bump long enough, someone with the solution should notice this question sooner or later; Although I realize that moment might be somewhere around 2015, with an answer like "Buy a galaxy S9 mate..."
Anyone?
Is the S9 there yet? Or else a solution to my problem?
I have a std aux input into my car stereo. Plugging a stereo 3.5 lead from the phone jack into the stereo aux I can listen to all sounds from the phone over all car speakers including calls... Just like when a headset is connected. Calls go over car speakers and phone mic picks up voice.
It would seem then that its the official samsung dock being treated different to a simple direct lead connection.
My only gripe is during calls the phones mic works but thinks its on a std call and is a bit weak. Wish I could force the mic into speakerphone mode or the levels associated with that mode anyway. Btw... Turning on speakerphone while lead is connected stops the output over the speakers.
I have a trrs mic / stereo splitter adapter and a seperate car 3.5 mic but again the mic levels on the phone in headset mode need boosting.
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EzDingo said:
I have a std aux input into my car stereo. Plugging a stereo 3.5 lead from the phone jack into the stereo aux I can listen to all sounds from the phone over all car speakers including calls... Just like when a headset is connected. Calls go over car speakers and phone mic picks up voice.
It would seem then that its the official samsung dock being treated different to a simple direct lead connection.
My only gripe is during calls the phones mic works but thinks its on a std call and is a bit weak. Wish I could force the mic into speakerphone mode or the levels associated with that mode anyway. Btw... Turning on speakerphone while lead is connected stops the output over the speakers.
I have a trrs mic / stereo splitter adapter and a seperate car 3.5 mic but again the mic levels on the phone in headset mode need boosting.
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Hmm... So maybe if I use a splitter to merge the signal from both the cardock AND the phonejack...
Thnx m8! Not entirely what I was looking for (one more thing to do when plugging in my phone in the car), but it just-might-work!
Will report back
Just note I do not 'need' the splitter to make it work. Without a splitter it works just fine using car speakers and the phones mic (as the aux lead is std audio lead only - not including the third ring position for the mic).
I just got the splitter to use a seperate external mic in the car. The splitter simply has all 3 rings to make phone think its a full headset connected like the set that comes in the box with the phone and splits audio and mic into 2 seperate connections. This way I then take the std aux lead from the audio split to the stereo for listening over the car speakers and use the mic split for plugging in any std 3.5 external mic.
EzDingo said:
Just note I do not 'need' the splitter to make it work. Without a splitter it works just fine using car speakers and the phones mic (as the aux lead is std audio lead only - not including the third ring position for the mic).
I just got the splitter to use a seperate external mic in the car. The splitter simply has all 3 rings to make phone think its a full headset connected like the set that comes in the box with the phone and splits audio and mic into 2 seperate connections. This way I then take the std aux lead from the audio split to the stereo for listening over the car speakers and use the mic split for plugging in any std 3.5 external mic.
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I understood that, it's just that I would probably need a splitter in my specific situation, since all my music gets played through the cardock by default as soon as I plug in the phone... It's possible to disable this automatic switch of audiorouting when the phone get's plugged in though, but somehow it just doesn't feel right to NOT use the audio-out feature of the cardock
They used to work with mine but not anymore. Doesn't matter what type of chorded headset it is, from a $20 cheapie to a $40-50 Sony or Motorola. For one reason or another it disables the mic on the chord, as well as the default mic on the phone itself.
Interestingly enough though - I can use regular headphones (w/out a mic) and use the phone mic but it just isn't the same because I've got to walk around with the phone in hand as opposed to in my pocket.
Anyone confirm they've got a chorded headset working and if so, what ROM are you using? Thanks.
Working fine. Stock rom rooted.
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Did you happen to turn on TTY support?
When I turned on TTY support so that my phone MIC worked while plugged into my car stero, I lost the MIC in my wired headset.
I wish there was a widget or application to turn TTY mode off/on.
Nope, never messed with the TTY settings, it's off. I swear headsets (not headphones) always worked until more recently, if I have to go back to stock I just may consider it. Super frustrating because I have bluetooth headset (and stereo in car), but sometimes I prefer to just rock earbuds and I can't take calls as it stands.
My wired headset and MIC are working fine.
This seems to be a known problem, but after a day of research, I still don't see a solution, or really understand if this will eventually be fixed by (1) a developer update by someone here much smarter than me, (2) a Samsung update, or (3) will never be fixed.
Issue is:
When the SGS3 headphone is engaged (ie: a stereo phone cable from my SGS3 to my car AUX input), you cannot hear and calls in or out from the built in auto bluetooth (mine is an Audi A3). I've tested many alternatives seen on these forums including, TTY settings, call settings, grinding down the stub of the cable so it doesn't fully engage the headphone, etc.
All to no avail, as when the headphone is engaged (a notification of this pops up on the screen), the default sounds ALL go to the headphone source. Of course, the car mutes the audio mode when the bluetooth is enabled, so the sound is lost! What needs to happen is that the phone needs to allow the phone sounds to flow through the bluetooth. Why this doesn't happen by default confuses me. Never had a problem with my HTC Inc2.
Can a solution to this be developed by some of you talented guys out there working on fixes and mods?
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This seems to be a known problem, but after a day of research, I still don't see a solution, or really understand if this will eventually be fixed by (1) a developer update by someone here much smarter than me, (2) a Samsung update, or (3) will never be fixed.
Issue is:
When the SGS3 headphone is engaged (ie: a stereo phone cable from my SGS3 to my car AUX input), you cannot hear and calls in or out from the built in auto bluetooth (mine is an Audi A3). I've tested many alternatives seen on these forums including, TTY settings, call settings, grinding down the stub of the cable so it doesn't fully engage the headphone, etc.
All to no avail, as when the headphone is engaged (a notification of this pops up on the screen), the default sounds ALL go to the headphone source. Of course, the car mutes the audio mode when the bluetooth is enabled, so the sound is lost! What needs to happen is that the phone needs to allow the phone sounds to flow through the bluetooth. Why this doesn't happen by default confuses me. Never had a problem with my HTC Inc2.
Can a solution to this be developed by some of you talented guys out there working on fixes and mods?
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Maybe if you go into the control panel of your car's built in computer and check the audio and Bluetooth settings it has, that might fix things.
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So you have bluetooth for phone only and younlisten to your music with aux in? I would say if you had an aux in cable with the mic on it like the headphones, then the phone audio would go out over to the radio... But do they make those or how hard would it be to hack your free headphones you got into a double male aux cable
There are no options anywhere in the car settings.
Car mutes phone audio.
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So you have bluetooth for phone only and younlisten to your music with aux in? I would say if you had an aux in cable with the mic on it like the headphones, then the phone audio would go out over to the radio... But do they make those or how hard would it be to hack your free headphones you got into a double male aux cable
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The sound does go through the phone audio already. But like almost all cars, when the car sees a bluetooth call in or out, it MUTES the audio coming in from the radio, the CD, or any AUX input. The phone should send call audio through bluetooth, but it does not.
Is it not possible to either play the music through the bluetooth or to turn off bluetooth all together. The phone mic would pick up wouldn't it
This is only possible if you have a newer car stereo with A2DP.
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So is this just a Samsung problem for me, or for all?
So I am correct that nobody with a bluetooth car phone setup (but no bluetooth streaming) is able to plug their headphones into their aux jacks and still make/receive calls?
Or is this related just to the SGS3? Or just to my Audi bluetooth options?
Would an eventual solution come from a xda brainiac update, from Samsung, or somewhere else?
Do some of you have built in car setups (no bluetooth streaming) that DO WORK with the headphones plugged in?
I can attempt to pair to my brothers car today or tomorrow if that will make you feel better. My bluetooth setup is aftermarket and streams both
I am also curious as to what happens if you don't have bluetooth enabled at all
What about car audio only. Wouldn't it automatically mute your music and then throw the call over bt or is the aux out overpowering the bluetooth signal. Let me look for a way to possibly disable the process that starts when you plug in headphones. Don't count on anything though
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I was doing a little brainstorming here and even though I am quite a novice with tasker, you may be able to make a task that pauses music and transfers call to bluetooth when both bluetooth and headphones are connected. I am not sure if it is an input device problem or if the phone is just dumb or what, but it may be worth a shot
Juicy92 said:
I can attempt to pair to my brothers car today or tomorrow if that will make you feel better. My bluetooth setup is aftermarket and streams both
I am also curious as to what happens if you don't have bluetooth enabled at all
What about car audio only. Wouldn't it automatically mute your music and then throw the call over bt or is the aux out overpowering the bluetooth signal. Let me look for a way to possibly disable the process that starts when you plug in headphones. Don't count on anything though
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I was doing a little brainstorming here and even though I am quite a novice with tasker, you may be able to make a task that pauses music and transfers call to bluetooth when both bluetooth and headphones are connected. I am not sure if it is an input device problem or if the phone is just dumb or what, but it may be worth a shot
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Your setup is not like mine, and should probably work, as you don't have to plug in the headphone jack. Yes, the problem is that IF the headphone jack is plugged in, ALL sound output goes through that and the bluetooth is disabled (even the symbol on the phone screen is grayed out.
With your bluetooth plugged in, just try putting the earbuds in the phone, then make a call to anyone, then see if your bluetooth icon on the phone call is not grayed out. Now unplug the ear buds and see if the icon doesn't come back on. This is the problem I have.
Never had any problems with either stereo worked fine in my altima and benz. I used aux + bluetooth no problem on my epic4g for the past 2 years and when I first got my s3 it was working until I did an update. Then it broke it.
Sick of having to unplug the aux cable everytime I get a call to allow it to switch to bluetooth
Need some people to test this, please...
I'd like to see if the problem is with the rooted phone image or if this problem also exists on stock, unrooted phones.
If you can:
1) pair your phone to your factory car bluetooth, or even a bluetooth headset that does not stream audio.
2) have any pair of headsets or an aux cable ready to plug in.
3) make a call using the bluetooth to anyone (ideally something that has an automatic answer phone cue like this 919-238-2000)
4) while the call is proceeding with the car bluetooth or bluetooth headset, plug in the headphones, or any cable into the headphone jack.
5) WHAT HAPPENS???
Is it (a) you still hear the phone call through the bluetooth, or
(b) you don't hear the call any more and the bluetooth headset icon on the phone pad goes out?
6) Please state what phone you have, what provider you have, and whether the phone is stock or rooted.
THANKS.
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I'd like to see if the problem is with the rooted phone image or if this problem also exists on stock, unrooted phones.
If you can:
1) pair your phone to your factory car bluetooth, or even a bluetooth headset that does not stream audio.
2) have any pair of headsets or an aux cable ready to plug in.
3) make a call using the bluetooth to anyone (ideally something that has an automatic answer phone cue like this 919-238-2000)
4) while the call is proceeding with the car bluetooth or bluetooth headset, plug in the headphones, or any cable into the headphone jack.
5) WHAT HAPPENS???
Is it (a) you still hear the phone call through the bluetooth, or
(b) you don't hear the call any more and the bluetooth headset icon on the phone pad goes out?
6) Please state what phone you have, what provider you have, and whether the phone is stock or rooted.
THANKS.
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I'm pretty sure I wasn't rooted the first time I tried it. In any case, I wrote to Samsung support on Facebook, and got this reply:
"Hi Chris, thanks for reaching out! You are correct, you cannot use both Bluetooth and Aux at the same time. A few of our customers found a work around by using an A2DP profile with hands free in the car. I apologize for the inconvenience."
So we know they are getting reports or they wouldn't push AD2P as a solution. I think if enough people write in, they will fix this in an update. We really need a critical mass of people to complain to Verizon and Samsung for this to happen. He did say when I replied asking about a fix, that he had passed my concerns on, etc., etc.
Mention "lawsuits from car accidents" when you write in...
sluzbenik said:
I'm pretty sure I wasn't rooted the first time I tried it. In any case, I wrote to Samsung support on Facebook, and got this reply:
"Hi Chris, thanks for reaching out! You are correct, you cannot use both Bluetooth and Aux at the same time. A few of our customers found a work around by using an A2DP profile with hands free in the car. I apologize for the inconvenience."
So we know they are getting reports or they wouldn't push AD2P as a solution. I think if enough people write in, they will fix this in an update. We really need a critical mass of people to complain to Verizon and Samsung for this to happen. He did say when I replied asking about a fix, that he had passed my concerns on, etc., etc.
Mention "lawsuits from car accidents" when you write in...
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I have an issue when it's plugged in via Auxiliary there's a nasty echo the caller hears on the other end because of this headphone mode. Anyway to turn it off?
I will probably return it for this reason amongst others.
Belkin Y37 from Amazon will solve this issue, or provide an alternative.
I can fully confirm the functionality of the Belkin F8Z492TTP. It is now custom installed in my A3 with a direct power hookup and direct connection to the aux input. For power, I had to hook up a 12 volt car outlet behind the dash, insert a 12v to usb adapter, and splice the power cord from the factory transformer to a USB cable. Power is with a micro type H plug that Radio Shack does not have. They should give you a usb to type H cable with it.
Anyway, the Galaxy S3 will connect to two bluetooth devices at the same time...the Audi bluetooth and the Belkin Y37 Bluetooth. I put a shortcut button for bluetooth on my home screen which pulls up the options. You DO HAVE TO RECONNECT BLUETOOTH each time you get in the car, but you had to manually plug in the cable the other way.
When a call is made, the car bluetooth takes over with full steering wheel controls, and when it ends, the audio goes back on (I think automatically). Since I have constant power to the Belkin through the 12v, if you step away and then come back, you can automatically regain your connection, which is nice.
I did the modification to the Belkin where I broke it carefully open and pulled the metal innards that are purely designed to give it a feeling of mass. All that is inside is a teeny circuit board that must have cost $1 tops! Belkin lists this at $50, although it is half that on Amazon.
All in all, a decent solution to a frustrating problem. Sound is pretty decent.