So what I have been doing is running Grub4dos off of my sdcard to boot and trouble shoot on the fly. Here is how I am currently doing it:
Unmount micro sdcard
Place micro sdcard into "standard" sdcard
Place "standard" sdcard into computer
boot and run grub how you would if you were running off of a USB Flash Drive
Ta-Da your in grub
Now my question...
Q. How can I get my phone to run grub without unmounting my SD and removing it?
When my phone is in a normal state in a terminal is how I would like to use grub. I use quemu on my laptop to test my USB.
When I turn on USB then connect my phone to the computer it doesn't recognize my phone as a hard drive even though I have multiple partitions on my sdcard.
I know I'm leaving out information nessassery to properly answer my question so fire away...
Also is anyone else working on Bluetooth to computer troubleshooting?
So you're placing a bootloader on your sdcard to boot an operating system on your PC?
Yes kp just like you would do for a USB flash drive
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my mobo hangs while doing "post" if my O1 is connected to the PC while powering it on !!!!!!! FORGET booting through the sdcard's mbr in USM mode ..its G31chipset
sarfaraz1989 said:
my mobo hangs while doing "post" if my O1 is connected to the PC while powering it on !!!!!!! FORGET booting through the sdcard's mbr in USM mode ..its G31chipset
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When I boot the comp and get into my boot menu I do not see my phone attached to be able to boot it as a hd
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So found a Bluetooth app in market that works well also installed wise pro to vnc/rdp blah blah... what I am looking at are not "intact" hd's these computers have serriously damaged primary hd's.
Funny they are all window based systems.
However if the computer doesn't have a SDcard expansion then guess what... no way to use my sdcard. I carry a USB Flash Drive for that occasion now and keep forgetting the damn thing at whoever I am helpings house. FML. hen
Overall I'm working on:
1. Getting the Mass USB Storage to be detected by the computer.
2. Then my next step will to have grub4dos on the root of my sdcard. (Which I currently do to troubleshoot as mentioned above) Run Grub4dos with the phone through the USB Cable when I select the device through the BIOS Startup Device Manager. Boot computer as I do for my normal way of getting to grub... Viola my grub menu.
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This looks like it is doable:http://blog.integrii.net/?p=173
I think the problem is having the phone stay in USB storage mode as the computer reboots. If the computer cuts power to the usb port while restarting, your phone will automatically re-mount the sdcard.
You know what would be sweet? Booting Ubuntu off of the phone's SD card. Compiling a new kernel and rom using it, and then flashing it back to the phone. It would almost be like the phone is evolving, although some might argue it is actually an intelligent designer
This is for UBCD, do you know also how to boot hirens boot on sd?
rexon2011 said:
This is for UBCD, do you know also how to boot hirens boot on sd?
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If you can boot one thing off of the phone, then you can boot almost anything off of it.
I suggest using this:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
It can do Hiren and ton of others. It'll even download them for you.
I personally can't get my computer to recognize my phone as USB drive while it is booting up, but I think that is more of a motherboard/bios issue than my phone.
Pendrive is a good program to use. I personally do my own grub install by hand and use notepad to create my menu. No splash images or extra unwanted footprint.
I also get the same hang up as of right now with my computer not recognizing my phone as a USB device.
A thought...
would be lack of device drivers on the computers side or the USB Connection is not in a true USB state on the androids side. What brings me to this thought is when I take my micro sdcard out & mount it into a "standard" sdcard grub boots every time.
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mmarz said:
This looks like it is doable:http://blog.integrii.net/?p=173
I think the problem is having the phone stay in USB storage mode as the computer reboots. If the computer cuts power to the usb port while restarting, your phone will automatically re-mount the sdcard.
You know what would be sweet? Booting Ubuntu off of the phone's SD card. Compiling a new kernel and rom using it, and then flashing it back to the phone. It would almost be like the phone is evolving, although some might argue it is actually an intelligent designer
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I can do that now with kbuntu and the files from a rom cooking guide on my sdcard... guide found here
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Ok so after all "epic fails" here is what I think... the deeper I dig, the less I know. LoL!
So when a phone is connected it depends on the android phone to read the mbr and pass that information on to the computer? Or the device connected must have a specific type/class of sdcard for the computer to recognize it as a bootable device?
M,
The USB, connected through development mode did stay connected through bootcycles. Good looks I'm dumb for not doing that a LONG time ago. Oh braincells where are thy...
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Related
Please do not drag me over the coals with this post it is my first "How To"​
How to set up the sdcard on your phone to boot a computer.
1. Remove your micro-sdcard from your phone and insert the micro-sdcard into the "standard" sdcard converter. Place that into your computer.
2. Install your choice of bootmanagers such as Grub4dos or Freedos by third party software below:
Using Bootice
Using UNetbootin
Using Pendrivelinux
Using RMPrepUSB
3. Follow the install directions. to copy files drag and drop
Using the software above you can download the iso to you sdcard... boot away!
Now the limitations:
You can not boot a computer while using MASS USB STORAGE.
You can not boot a computer that does not have a SDcard reader.
I personally do not like the "Third Party" software so what I do is google the iso files I want to use for my computer troubleshooting, currently I am using RIPlinux and Pinguy primarly as my OS and then your standard nuking/formating tools along with recovery/partition tools. Here is my iso list on my sdcard:
RIPlinux
Pinguy
BackTrackFinal
Dban
DSL (DamnSmallLinux)
UBCD
Various Windows Installments (XP, ME, 2000, 98 ect...)
Kbuntu 10.4
Ubuntu 10.10
TinyXP
Google the iso file and download it. Once you have the iso's you can just drag and drop to the sdcard, dont forget you would have to configure your menu to reflect the changes made.
Grub4Dos is the bootmanager I prefer. Here is a Nice Introduction along with Grub's "Read Me" file should get you started.
When formatting the sdcard rember to use linuxsys in fat16.... enjoy.
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Coal dragging alert!
Now the limitations:
You can not boot a computer while using MASS USB STORAGE.
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I gave you a link in the other thread where someone DID boot their computer using USB Mass Storage mode: http://blog.integrii.net/?p=173
The limitation is your computer, not your phone. Just because your computer can boot off of other usb devices doesn't mean it'll boot off of the phone. The phone enables a special mass storage mode that can be mounted on most computers. Because of this, not ll bios'es see it as a bootable device. But it is possible.
I'm glad & very intrested others are doing the same. Booting off of USB Flash Drives has replaced my huge library of CD's.
I know this is old news to some/most but when I talk about the topic with my egg-headed think-tank friends they have no idea what I'm talking about. Lol and they spent money on schooling for IT degrees.
You are correct on all accounts... but I'm working on finding a solution with Mass USB & BIOS recognizing my phone when it is connected.
Please contiue too add to my posts any helpful findings... thanks everyone.
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Have you tried putting your phone into recovery mode, going to storage and mounts, then mount usb? This will put your phone into perpetual usb mass storage mode. Maybe your bios will recognize it that way.
mmarz said:
Have you tried putting your phone into recovery mode, going to storage and mounts, then mount usb? This will put your phone into perpetual usb mass storage mode. Maybe your bios will recognize it that way.
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Tonight's endeavour USB & recovery mode.
I'm pretty sure it will have the same results, the android side of the language is what seems to be the hang up for my make/model of phone. But I try anyways, eventually I will find out exactly why the phone is not recognized and began to overcome the objections.
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Got a U9510, D Quad (unlocked and unbranded outright) (didn't see my phone listed so posting in this section)
Worked great, rooted easily. Installed Chainfire 3D, was all fine. Uninstall as decided I dont need it.
Then stupidly decided to try reinstall and try Beta EGL driver after browsing and finding some EGL level support.
Now the screen is blank, no lights, no boot logo, nothing, and I want to cry. (Though I have not been able to pull the battery)
Plug in via USB still shows up as Android device etc.
I dont know how to pull the battery on this phone, it's not easily accessible, I took the screws out of the back plate and tried to lift up the plate but couldn't see how to do it, so just put the screws back in.
Also it's new, so no SD card yet, internal only.
USB Setting is default to storage device, but internal doesn't show up on that setting, it does on MTP.
What steps to recovery?
Most similar issue I've found is this, but only seems like the same symptoms, not same cause:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2081388
No mention of EGL, and I had no problems with Chainfire until I tried EGL.
Anyway to uninstall the driver over USB? And anyone know how to get the backplate off without damage to pull the battery?
I don't have anything critical on the phone storage I can't replace easily, have flashed roms before etc, but prefer to recover/undo if possible. And again with the storage issue, how would I gain access to the internal storage without the screen on?
edit: The removable disk drive shows up for the SD card (but obviously inaccessible since no microSD in phone), but I'm poor till wednesday night, so cant go out and get a microSD to attempt a fix yet.
HiSuite can't connect to the phone (HiSuite USB mode needs to be turned on OR USB debugging, debugging is) so I presume the phone is not in a fully powered on state running the OS (unable to start graphics driver etc).
edit2: The manual states if I want to change the battery to contact an authorised service provider (!), but can hold the power button for more than 10 seconds to force a restart (but I wonder if that will work in its current state?)
Okay I attached my logcat file if that helps.
I have a NT 16 gb from stock with my smartphone usb cable but not the charger.
I connect the usb cable to an international adapter via its usb port so I think I get 1.6A: and judging by how fast I charge the NT, I would say it is right.
I want cm10.2 or cm11 [preferably of course] but I cannot install cwm.
I cannot get usb debugging on by downloading an apk and lunching it: I must choose between the app installer or the package installer and then get the error: only from NB we can install apk's, great.
I have 1micro sdhc class 4 of 4gb and one class4 16gb, none of them permits to boot up which incredibly sucks, idk why.
I configure them with minitool, 300mb space, and my put img of cwm 6.0.4.6.
Every time I end up with the reset factory choice from NB after I perform pwr+home then power alone; whether I connect the nt to the power adapter or not.
When I connect the nt to windows, it is seen only as a drive.
ADB does not recognize the device of course.
Is there a way to install CM ? without a bootable SD ?
This is unbelievably frustrating and since I am a complete noob to android and all that, pls level with me
this guide is quite helpful: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim
if i were you i'd throw the ROM and Gapps that you want on the internal storage if you can get into USB mode, then look at this and use this guide to flash CM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21895025&postcount=14
yeah it says how to root stock firmware but it's the same process, just different zip files.
yes I have seen the wiki and I am stuck at Boot to recovery mode since my nook always shows the BN recovery:
from your second link, it is this line
You will see a picture of N on the screen followed by a box with a white background followed by CWM booting up.
CWM does not boot. Is it possible that the problem is from the SD cards ?
I tested a sandisk 32gb class10, it still shows the factory reset screen
Regarding the USB mode, the NT says I must install the apks from BN only, so I do not not know how to active it.
i'm assuming you know how to connect the tablet to a computer... try that.
blue whale said:
I have a NT 16 gb from stock with my smartphone usb cable but not the charger.
I connect the usb cable to an international adapter via its usb port so I think I get 1.6A: and judging by how fast I charge the NT, I would say it is right.
...
Is there a way to install CM ? without a bootable SD ?
This is unbelievably frustrating and since I am a complete noob to android and all that, pls level with me
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Have you tried the method outlined at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51377882&postcount=163?
Note that many NT will boot off SD only from power-off state and upon insertion of a powered USB cable (regular mini-USB cable connected to PC or powered USB Hub should work fine).
Success CM11 is installed \0/; My partition was of type 0b not 0c...
I do have a problem now when I plug in the tablet on windows xp sp3: windows cannot find the drivers with or without debugging on.
Is it possible to see the device as a storage space in general and also being recognized by adb when debugging is on {i believe it is how this work, is it not ?} ?
blue whale said:
Success CM11 is installed \0/; My partition was of type 0b not 0c...
I do have a problem now when I plug in the tablet on windows xp sp3: windows cannot find the drivers with or without debugging on.
Is it possible to see the device as a storage space in general and also being recognized by adb when debugging is on {i believe it is how this work, is it not ?} ?
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By default the NT should automatically show up as an MTP device when plugged in via USB.
You only need to enable USB debugging when using adb access over USB.
digixmax said:
By default the NT should automatically show up as an MTP device when plugged in via USB.
You only need to enable USB debugging when using adb access over USB.
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Well, via a software, I removed all the usb drivers connected to an android tablet. Then, the first time I plug in the NT, I have an OMAP443 install [for I do have these drivers] and windows then searches for the "BN NT" but cannot find the drivers. It's quite puzzling.
For the MTP, as far as I understand, I must install windows mediaplayer 11, is there not an alternative >?
blue whale said:
Well, via a software, I removed all the usb drivers connected to an android tablet. Then, the first time I plug in the NT, I have an OMAP443 install [for I do have these drivers] and windows then searches for the "BN NT" but cannot find the drivers. It's quite puzzling.
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Did you switch the NT to USB mode (Settings->Storage->Settings->UMS)?
For the MTP, as far as I understand, I must install windows mediaplayer 11, is there not an alternative >?
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MTP on Win PC requires Windows Media Player 10 or later.
it did work after disabling the debuging
I have here a P3-1Ghz with 512 megabytes of RAM on an Asus CUSI-M (SiS630M) motherboard in a compact case. I thought I'd try running RemixOS on it, under the rationale that Android should be friendlier to old PC hardware than any other modern system because plenty of ultramobile devices it runs on have about the same power as old PC hardware.
The CD-ROM drive is a slim unit that's unfortunately quite dead, and I don't have any of my old IDE optical drives handy; plus the computer only has USB1.1 (from which it can't boot without Plop Bootmanager and even that's sketchy) and I don't have any USB2 PCI cards, so it requires some creative ways to get a live system running. My idea is to either put the OS on the drive from my main computer and then transfer it across, or get the system on another drive, plug it in the secondary IDE channel, boot it and install to the primary drive from there.
I plugged the drive into my win10 box with a IDE-to-USB2 converter and ran the Windows installer program; it did its thing, but when I transfer the drive to the PIII it doesn't boot - it just stays there at the BIOS screen forever, as if there was no bootloader on the hard disk (I understand the installer, which seems derived from UNetBootin, should have put one there). This happens both with FAT32 and NTFS.
So I tried dd'ing the image to the hard drive directly in Linux. That at least got me to the bootloader, but when I try to boot (in guest mode) it complains about Intel Powerclamp not working and some other process being incompatible with the CPU. Then it reboots.
I then tried using Rufus to write the image to the hard disk, and that caused a cleaner attempt - no complaints and it goes straight to "looking for Android-x86 on /dev/sda1, found"... and then reboots.
Notably my idea seems to work otherwise - I can boot any Linux live by Rufus-ing it to one of the two drives, and if I put the live on the second drive I can then boot it, run the installer and install it on the first; by way of an experiment I installed Mint like this and it booted to a desktop just fine (if slowly).
I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the image files, or if I'm just trying to install it on an excessively ancient and unsupported computer - which would be too bad, really, as it seems an ideal solution to revive slow hardware.
Edit: another attempt. I used my main box to create a RemixOS USB drive, then rebooted the main box to verify that it works, and sure enough RemixOS booted fine from the thumbdrive. I then used Linux to dd the thumbdrive directly on the IDE hard drive and plugged that in the P3. This works - it boots to the bootloader, acts as if it wants to boot (even formats the data partition if I select resident mode), then - again - resets.
Why is the damn thing resetting on boot and how do I stop it? Argh!
Fallingwater said:
I have here a P3-1Ghz with 512 megabytes of RAM on an Asus CUSI-M (SiS630M) motherboard in a compact case. I thought I'd try running RemixOS on it, under the rationale that Android should be friendlier to old PC hardware than any other modern system because plenty of ultramobile devices it runs on *have* about the same power of old PC hardware.
The CD-ROM drive is a slim unit that's unfortunately quite dead, and I don't have any of my old IDE optical drives handy; plus the computer only has USB1.1 (from which it can't boot without Plop Bootmanager and even that's sketchy) and I don't have any USB2 PCI cards, so it requires some creative ways to get a live system running. My idea is to either put the OS on the drive from my main computer and then transfer it across, or get the system on another drive, plug it in the secondary IDE channel, boot it and install to the primary drive from there.
I plugged the drive into my win10 box with a IDE-to-USB2 converter and ran the Windows installer program; it did its thing, but when I transfer the drive to the PIII it doesn't boot - it just stays there at the BIOS screen forever, as if there was no bootloader on the hard disk (I understand the installer, which seems derived from UNetBootin, should have put one there). This happens both with FAT32 and NTFS.
So I tried dd'ing the image to the hard drive directly in Linux. That at least got me to the bootloader, but when I try to boot (in guest mode) it complains about Intel Powerclamp not working and some other process being incompatible with the CPU. Then it reboots.
I then tried using Rufus to write the image to the hard disk, and that caused a cleaner attempt - no complaints and it goes straight to "looking for Android-x86 on /dev/sda1, found"... and then reboots.
Notably my idea seems to work otherwise - I can boot any Linux live by Rufus-ing it to one of the two drives, and if I put the live on the second drive I can then boot it, run the installer and install it on the first; by way of an experiment I installed Mint like this and it booted to a desktop just fine (if slowly).
I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the image files, or if I'm just trying to install it on an excessively ancient and unsupported computer - which would be too bad, really, as it seems an ideal solution to revive slow hardware.
Edit: another attempt. I used my main box to create a RemixOS USB drive, then rebooted the main box to verify that it works, and sure enough RemixOS booted fine from the thumbdrive. I then used Linux to dd the thumbdrive directly on the IDE hard drive and plugged that in the P3. This works - it boots to the bootloader, acts as if it wants to boot (even formats the data partition if I select resident mode), then - again - resets.
Why is the damn thing resetting on boot and how do I stop it? Argh!
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Try flashing it to another hard drive, insert both drives into the computer, and and at the grub menu press alt, and add "install=1 debug=" (without the quotes of course, and debug should have no character whatsoever afer the equals.
After installing from the second hard drive to the first, turn off the computer, remove the second hard drive, and boot up the conputer.
I hope this works for you.
Good question... I have an pentium 4 3.0 ghz 64 bit cpu, 4 gig mem and an sata ssd, that runs on Linux mint. Can i install Remix Android 6 without Windows or is Windows recommended if i will to install Remix Android 6
Flemischguy said:
Good question... I have an pentium 4 3.0 ghz 64 bit cpu, 4 gig mem and an sata ssd, that runs on Linux mint. Can i install Remix Android 6 without Windows or is Windows recommended if i will to install Remix Android 6
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No need for windows, however it makes things easier for flashing it on the flash drive.
My recommendation, though, is to use the flash drive as an installer: according to what I had written above, install Remix OS to a hard drive from the flash drive.
I did what you suggested. The system is now installed on the second hard drive, but the computer still resets when attempting to boot. However, by selecting debug boot in grub it tells me a bit more info about the crash - which it didn't when I just did "debug=" in the live, for whatever reason.
Does this tell you anything?
Fallingwater said:
I did what you suggested. The system is now installed on the second hard drive, but the computer still resets when attempting to boot. However, by selecting debug boot in grub it tells me a bit more info about the crash - which it didn't when I just did "debug=" in the live, for whatever reason.
Does this tell you anything?
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Not much, unfortunately.
However, perhaps a BIOS update will help.
It's already updated to the newest revision.
In case others come across this problem: apparently it's not caused by the CPU, but by an unsupported video adapter. This computer has a disgusting old integrated SiS something-or-other video chipset, so that doesn't surprise me. I might try again if I ever find a PCI video adapter that'll fit the case.
Fallingwater said:
In case others come across this problem: apparently it's not caused by the CPU, but by an unsupported video adapter. This computer has a disgusting old integrated SiS something-or-other video chipset, so that doesn't surprise me. I might try again if I ever find a PCI video adapter that'll fit the case.
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Alright, I hope it'll work then.
Hello All,
Years ago, I installed CyanogenMod 10.1. The TP works OK. Here's the info:
- Android version: 4.2.2
- Kernel version: 2.6.35-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1 Tue Dec 10 17:10:10 CST 2013
- CPU: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
- CyanogenMod version: 10.1-20131210-SNAPSHOT-VPN-tenderloin
- Build date: Tue Dec 10 17:05:54 CST 2013
- Build number: cm_tenderloin-userdebug 4.2.2 JDQ39E 8d5ffaac34 test-keys
From what I know, external USB can be connected to HP TP via OTG cable and external power. So in an effort to use this HP TP (which has been collecting dust) as a digital frame, I follow this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc7tlPwFQpg&t=198s
The guy has links to buy OTG cable and Y adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QX7KYU/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041CFFBM/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
So I bought (2) OTG cables and (2) Y adapters from the above links.
The power adapter I use is a working 2A one (brand name: Amazon). I formatted the USB thumb drive. Then loaded a few jpeg files to the thumb drive.
When I followed the above Youtube video to plug the USB drive, the app 'ES Explorer' does recognize the USB drive but it shows 'Empty folder'. I changed out OTG and Y cables but still the same: the HP Touchpad won't recognize the jpeg files on the thumb drive.
Please tell me what I did wrong and show me how to fix it.
I'm open to two solutions:
1) Open the HP TP up and solder a SD/micro SD module (I'm a circuit technician and have no problems doing that).
2) Wipe out the HP TP and install another Android version newer and/or capable of reading external thumb drives (I hate wasting a nostalgic HP TP).
Thank you very much for your help.
quangmsc said:
1) Open the HP TP up and solder a SD/micro SD module (I'm a circuit technician and have no problems doing that).
2) Wipe out the HP TP and install another Android version newer and/or capable of reading external thumb drives (I hate wasting a nostalgic HP TP).
Thank you very much for your help.
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This is the OTG cable that I use and another one that could not find on line:
Click HERE for 4 Port Micro USB
I had use it with a 16GB USB drive on Evervolv 7.1.2 for curiosity to see how it works and I was very impress with the speed. I was able to play movies from the USB drive and at the same time also connected an USB Ethernet ( I had to incorporate the driver into the kernel ).
It is possible to have more than one USB device connected at same time, like USB drive, Keyboard, mouse and wire Ethernet. The tablet is like a laptop with connections by wire.
If ES Explore recognize the USB drive then the OTG cables is good, but you need another software to be able to read the files. I tried it Total Commander and there was another software to mount the partition, I think it was Paragon:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro&hl=en_US
Install that to mount the USB drive and then the files should be available in ES Explore if not then try Total Commander and use the plug in for it.
Thanks but unfortunately none of those work because those methods only work for at least Android 4.4. Please let me know how to 1) wipe the TP and 2) find a stable and newer Android OS / CyanogenMod to install on the TP which will only be used as a digital frame and not anything else (no internet browsing, games, etc.).
All I see is this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-hp-touchpad-t3923512
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-7-0-0p1-wifi-t3456292
but both don't have step by step installation guides.
Thanks @HP_TOUCHPAD
quangmsc said:
Thanks but unfortunately none of those work because those methods only work for at least Android 4.4. Please let me know how to 1) wipe the TP and 2) find a stable and newer Android OS / CyanogenMod to install on the TP which will only be used as a digital frame and not anything else (no internet browsing, games, etc.).
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If you want to easily wipe the tablet and make it a 100 % Android device and install any ROM then follow this guide.
There is a lot to read, but very simple, flash Automatic_Wipe_ALL and it does everything.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
The Tablet can read and write up to FOUR USB drive connected at the same time, attached are screenshots using Evervolv 7.1.2 with Total Commander and the plug in for the USB.
https://www.ghisler.com/android.htm
USB drive tested: 16G SandDisk, 16G Lexar, 8G Patriot
All three USB can be connected at the same time and be access using total commander file manager.
Also I plug in the MicroUSB Ethernet and works with the USB connected.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
If you want to easily wipe the tablet and make it a 100 % Android device and install any ROM then follow this guide.
There is a lot to read, but very simple, flash Automatic_Wipe_ALL and it does everything.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
The Tablet can read and write up to FOUR USB drive connected at the same time, attached are screenshots using Evervolv 7.1.2 with Total Commander and the plug in for the USB.
https://www.ghisler.com/android.htm
USB drive tested: 16G SandDisk, 16G Lexar, 8G Patriot
All three USB can be connected at the same time and be access using total commander file manager.
Also I plug in the MicroUSB Ethernet and works with the USB connected.
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Thanks. I downloaded 'TWRP Recovery Version 3.2' to my computer, unzip and copy the files to the HP TP root directory. Unplug the TP from computer. Turn off the TP completely then boot it up again. No recovery menu to choose other than WebOS Recovery and some other menu options unrelated to automatic wipe out. So I'm stuck there.
Can I use this one instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP-FH6fS2GI
He basically shows step by step how to uninstall everything by plugging the TP to a computer which already has Nova installed.
Part 2: Let's say everything is wiped out, which android version would you recommend given my simple use of the TP? This is Android Pie 9.0 on Youtube (same instructor): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuNSoe6euI
Thanks again.
quangmsc said:
Thanks. I downloaded 'TWRP Recovery Version 3.2' to my computer, unzip and copy the files to the HP TP root directory.
TWRP 3.2.1 needs to be flash using another recovery, if the uImage.Recovery is copy into boot then the file moboot.default needs to be edited and add uImage.Recovery to show in the moboot menu. It is best to flash it as it will create the entry for moboot menu. But now there is a copy there and the /boot maybe full and it needs to be clean.
Unplug the TP from computer. Turn off the TP completely then boot it up again. No recovery menu to choose other than WebOS Recovery and some other menu options unrelated to automatic wipe out. So I'm stuck there.
As mentioned the entry uImage.Recovery must be add to a file in the /boot partition.
Can I use this one instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP-FH6fS2GI
He basically shows step by step how to uninstall everything by plugging the TP to a computer which already has Nova installed.
Part 2: Let's say everything is wiped out, which android version would you recommend given my simple use of the TP? This is Android Pie 9.0 on Youtube (same instructor): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuNSoe6euI
Thanks again.
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Follow this guide to Wipe it all, the only thing to do is one click and is done.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435
boot the Linux ISO file into a PC or virtual machine, place the tablet in WebOS recovery mode connect the tablet to PC and click on Wipe ALL, then install any ROM.
I recommend Evervolv 7.1.2 as that is the one that I used for the screenshots with the USB connected.
Then go to this guide and install the ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
To flash a ROM, copy the zip files to the Tablet and using TWRP select and flash.
If you have novacom install on your PC and know how to use it then follow this guide to wipe all.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/rom-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
All those options allows to load Wipe_All to have everything done automatically. Select the best option for you but the outcome is the same.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Follow this guide to Wipe it all, the only thing to do is one click and is done.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435
boot the Linux ISO file into a PC or virtual machine, place the tablet in WebOS recovery mode connect the tablet to PC and click on Wipe ALL, then install any ROM.
I recommend Evervolv 7.1.2 as that is the one that I used for the screenshots with the USB connected.
Then go to this guide and install the ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
To flash a ROM, copy the zip files to the Tablet and using TWRP select and flash.
If you have novacom install on your PC and know how to use it then follow this guide to wipe all.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/rom-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
All those options allows to load Wipe_All to have everything done automatically. Select the best option for you but the outcome is the same.
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So I created a bootable USB drive having 'HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Repair_Android'. Change my laptop boot priority to USB and used 'unetbootin-windows-677' to 'Wipe All' the Android version. After that, every time the HP TP is booted, only a moboot 0.3.8 menu appears with these options:
- boot Recovery
- boot webOS recovery
- reboot
- shutdown
Now, I have downloaded these zip files:
- ev_tenderloin-7.1.2-nightly-2017.11.03
- HpTp_MaXtreme_1674_CPU_Universal_Optimize_Swap_Evervolv_7_1_2_Nougat
- open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20200520
I need to copy these zip files to the tablet but I don't know how: Turn the tablet on and select 'boot webOS recovery' and the white USB logo appears. Then connect the tablet to a laptop with Windows 10 running Then a message pops up 'We're setting up Palm device'. I open Windows Explorer to copy the zip files to the tablet but there's no 'Palm' folder (before Android was wiped out, I do see 'Palm' folder in Windows Explorer). Can you tell me how to copy the zip files to the table then? Should I copy those zip files to the bootable usb thumb drive then run unetbootin-windows-677 on the laptopn and copy the zip files over to the tablet?
quangmsc said:
So I created a bootable USB drive having 'HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Repair_Android'. Change my laptop boot priority to USB and used 'unetbootin-windows-677' to 'Wipe All' the Android version. After that, every time the HP TP is booted, only a moboot 0.3.8 menu appears with these options:
Great Job! now you have a Linux OS with built in Novacom drivers that will always work no matter what.
- boot Recovery
- boot webOS recovery
- reboot
- shutdown
The tablet has been completely wipe and only the Android partitions were created.
boot Recovery is TWRP 3.2..1 by @flitman that allows to flash any Android ROM and works 100 % all the time.
Now, I have downloaded these zip files:
- ev_tenderloin-7.1.2-nightly-2017.11.03
- HpTp_MaXtreme_1674_CPU_Universal_Optimize_Swap_Evervolv_7_1_2_Nougat
- open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20200520
I need to copy these zip files to the tablet but I don't know how: Turn the tablet on and select 'boot webOS recovery' and the white USB logo appears. Then connect the tablet to a laptop with Windows 10 running Then a message pops up 'We're setting up Palm device'. I open Windows Explorer to copy the zip files to the tablet but there's no 'Palm' folder (before Android was wiped out, I do see 'Palm' folder in Windows Explorer). Can you tell me how to copy the zip files to the table then? Should I copy those zip files to the bootable usb thumb drive then run unetbootin-windows-677 on the laptopn and copy the zip files over to the tablet?
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WebOS Recovery is only use to repair the Tablet ( troubleshooting )
Recovery TWRP is the App that is use to flash any ROM.
Boot into TWRP connect the Tablet to any PC, Micro SD will show ( is like a portable USB storage ) It works on any PC there is no need to have the novacom drivers install.
Copy all the zip files to the Micro SD card or USB ( it has different names )
Go to TWRP on the Tablet and select the zip files to flash, when done reboot.
It is very simple the only thing to do is select and flash that is it.
Here are some youtube videos about HP Touchpad Novacom Repair for Android, that shows how is use:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKNPYKGp-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9M-peqf45I
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
WebOS Recovery is only use to repair the Tablet ( troubleshooting )
Recovery TWRP is the App that is use to flash any ROM.
Boot into TWRP connect the Tablet to any PC, Micro SD will show ( is like a portable USB storage ) It works on any PC there is no need to have the novacom drivers install.
Copy all the zip files to the Micro SD card or USB ( it has different names )
Go to TWRP on the Tablet and select the zip files to flash, when done reboot.
It is very simple the only thing to do is select and flash that is it.
Here are some youtube videos about HP Touchpad Novacom Repair for Android, that shows how is use:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKNPYKGp-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9M-peqf45I
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Thanks a lot. I was able to installed Nougat on TP. Try to install Paragon exfat/ntfs software but the software shows it's not compatible with HP TP Nougat 7. Installed Total Commander then install the plug-in (USB Stick, free trial btw) then the tablet restarted by itself. As it turns out, the battery drained from 50% to 0% right after installing the plug-in.
So now I'm monitoring the tablet to see if there are problems.
Also, System Storage and (Android Stock) Gallery both don't see the pictures of the usb thumb drive. The only one app can see the usb drive is Total Commander. I clicked on the pictures but there's no photo browsing app associated with Total Commander so I can't see the photo slides. If you happen to know such a photo viewing app compatible with Total Commander, please let me know.
quangmsc said:
Thanks a lot. I was able to installed Nougat on TP. Try to install Paragon exfat/ntfs software but the software shows it's not compatible with HP TP Nougat 7. Installed Total Commander then install the plug-in (USB Stick, free trial btw) then the tablet restarted by itself. As it turns out, the battery drained from 50% to 0% right after installing the plug-in.
So now I'm monitoring the tablet to see if there are problems.
Always keep the tablet charging, it will prolong the battery life.
Also, System Storage and (Android Stock) Gallery both don't see the pictures of the usb thumb drive. The only one app can see the usb drive is Total Commander. I clicked on the pictures but there's no photo browsing app associated with Total Commander so I can't see the photo slides. If you happen to know such a photo viewing app compatible with Total Commander, please let me know.
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That is a limitation of Android but some apps would be able to read the USB, to look here:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5/563616-possible-view-videos-photo-slide-show-usb-connected-flash-drive-card-reader.html
I know that using a USB stick is the most cost effective and easy way to set up, but also keep in mind a wireless hard drive, of you can set up a share folder from a PC and connect the Tablet and show all the photos from a network location. There are many ways the tablet can produce a slide show.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
That is a limitation of Android but some apps would be able to read the USB, to look here:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5/563616-possible-view-videos-photo-slide-show-usb-connected-flash-drive-card-reader.html
I know that using a USB stick is the most cost effective and easy way to set up, but also keep in mind a wireless hard drive, of you can set up a share folder from a PC and connect the Tablet and show all the photos from a network location. There are many ways the tablet can produce a slide show.
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When I click on a photo on USB stick in Total Commander, a menu pops up 'with 2 options:
- Download+Open with
- Download+Edit
But whatever option you choose, nothing happens. It can't even view a photo. So I guess Total Commander is trying to associate a photo with an photo viewing app but it can't find such an app.
For ES Explorer, it can open a photo but no slideshow ( I heard that previous version of ES Explorer had that feature) so you have to manually click on the next photo.
Don't bother with Google Photos because it can't detect photos on the USB stick. So for now, I copy some of my pictures on the HP TP internal storage and play the slideshow by running Google Photos.
Hoping one day either ES Explorer or Total Commander can do slideshows.
Thanks for all your tremendous help.
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