In order to gain access to the developer threads I thought I would postulate a question here.
Some background that lead to this question was the rumor mill around Big Red sniffing out Rooted users that tether.
I checked my data usage online and was able to pull up the file size of all internet transactions over the air. I could assume that if I was to tether the PS3 or used my laptop to download some HD movies or something it may be a red flag to see like a 6 or 8 gig file. Also, with a tethered laptop there would be other things running in the background that may point to non cell usage. Not to mention probably a lot more data consumption in general if multiple sources are sharing the connection at the same time.
Now, say I was tethering my CM7 nook. Would not the data in both size and format be the same as the Thunderbolt. Is there even a way for the powers that be to tell that is is not the Thunderbolt. Maybe someone could shed some light on this as it is one of the questions that I have.
AdamT.
I use 5ish gbs on my phone only no tethering. Just saying.
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I am at about 3 gig with about 10 days to go, and have not tethered anything to my phone. What I am guessing is that a red flag would be a 3 gig file in one download. In my Verizon it lists the size of all your downloaded files. My question is more about the type of data requested/sent from a tethered android tab vs a laptop.
If they can keep track of the size of the download you can assume that they can tell the type of the file.
Bear in mind that these are the ramblings of a paranoid dude. Sorry if my question is as clelar as mud.
AdamT
Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
Also this is coming from one of the most data heavy users you can find (I've been known to pull 20+ gs ) If they could tell I would have been F'd months ago
So 4g tethering is free?
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
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I'm just saying...
A knowledgeable big red employee told me today that they have been tracking the top 5% of data users and "something" was about to come down. I don't tether so I didn't dig for any more info.
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I just wonder how much data the top 5% is using. Are we talking 100Gb, or would the top 5% be down to say 15 Gb.
Again, my original question still remains. Can they tell what kind of data you are using?
It does beg the question though, was free 4G tether a stress test on the new network, or a baseline for data consumption with tethered users?
Adamt.
It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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She said, "The TB has no 4g"? Or Verizon has no 4g?
QUOTE=jordanzink;12763474]I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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No offense, but your friend doesn't seem to have thought out what she said very well. They aren't going to up data plan prices on those that already have contracts. They could yes, but you can bail on your contract without paying termination fees if they do so as well. Also, since the bionic will have LTE data (even if you don't use it), you will be stuck in the same contract as any of those that have the TB and if by chance they do raise prices and do so before you have the contract, you'll be paying the higher priced data plan.
Also, the bionic is similar to the atrix, just as the thunderbolt is similar to the inspire and other than the 2 core cpu, which will be more of a hindrance to performance for quite a while than improvement and the hdmi abilities, they dont have hugely contrasting specs. Well, other than moto blur, which is a shoddy piece of software and the locked bootloader that has about as much of a chance of being unlocked as you do winning a multi-million dollar lottery .
Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
I will be moving from a "talk" phone to a new TB or ?? in the next week so I have been reading and trying to figure it all out for the past 2 weeks now.
A quick question...assuming I get the Thunderbolt.
I will purchase the unlimited talk plan from Verizon, then add the $30 unlimited data plan. If I root my phone (plan to do) then do or will I need to also purchase the hotspot ($20) service from Verizon as well?
If I read things correctly, all I need is the unlimited talk and data plans ($99) and I am good to go. I can then use my phone to connect my laptop to the internet and surf on it when I need to. Is this correct?
Thanks
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It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I have this thing called a contract with Verizon. It's for two years. Big red doesn't get to decide if I get to keep my unlimited 4G on May 15th. If they send me a text message on the 15th saying my 4G plan is now changed, I get out of my contract without an ETF and go about my business.
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jordanzink said:
I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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Sadly, no offense to your friend, but they would appear to know about as much as everyone else in VZW's call centers when it comes to things not read off their support terminal, which is to say exceedingly little, and nothing to be trusted.
Now while it is possible VZW decides to raise their LTE data plan prices for new customers they will not raise the prices on existing customers while they are in contract. Reason being doing so constitutes a breech of contract on their part which means you can legally break your contract without penalty. A contract is a two way street. You agree to pay $X per month for a set length of time (24 months in this case) and in exchange VZW agrees to provide you services as lined out in the contract for the duration of said contract. If any party performs an action that is in violation of that contract then said contract can be considered null and void and depending on which party caused said contract to be nullified the breech could be subject to any liquidated damages stipulated in said contract (read ETF's).
Now back to your regularly scheduled insanity...
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Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
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Agreed. 100%. Reading some of these threads make me paranoid as well.
Though I do have to wonder. If I were to tether my TB to my Eye-Fi SD card to upload photos, whether they would notice, care or know. Idears?
The fine print for when I ordered my TB says that tethering is free until May 15th, 2011. It's a "trial".
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I've realized in the past few days that Sprint's customer service still hasn't improved in the past few years and actually has gone downhill. Even Executive Services was unable to resolve my issues, and refuses to replace my phone since they are saying it's my phone and NOT the network, when the issue is apparent with several different phones.
Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. Your contracts are changing and I found this on SD. Credit to Chrscott22. The changes take place 9/9/11 and you have till 10/9/11 to cancel, but people have already started canceling.
"Administrative Charge Increase &Terms & Conditions Changes for Consumers
Effective 9/9/11, the Administrative Chargewill increase to $1.50 per line for customersthat receive the charge. For details, visitsprint.com/taxesandfees. In addition, theSprint consumer Terms (Ts&Cs) are changing. Please review them carefully at your local Sprint store or sprint.com/termsandconditions"
and per their terms and conditions:
"When You Don't Have To Pay An Early Termination Fee
You aren't responsible for paying an Early Termination Fee when terminating Services: (a) provided on a month-to-month basis; (b) consistent with our published trial period return policy; or (c) in response to a materially adverse change we make to the Agreement as described directly below.
Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights
We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes—and may provide you notice of non-material changes—in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment. "
If you are tired of their service, have ****ty service, or just want to get out, call in and cancel. If you love them, please don't come here bashing others. I know Sprint is good in some areas, and after all they are the cheapest.
sprint has the best service wtf u smokin
few complaints here but nothing the others wouldnt do worse, i like sprint and plan to be with them until the competition is better which might not be ever.
A.Priori said:
sprint has the best service wtf u smokin
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Sprint service is excellent in some places but terrible in others. In most places, though, you get constant service except for the dropped calls.
data is total **** where i live but for my plan cost i can deal with it
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few complaints here but nothing the others wouldnt do worse, i like sprint and plan to be with them until the competition is better which might not be ever.
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Yeah...I mean, the 2G signal is nearly everywhere and rock solid. The 3G signal is 'strong enough' in most places...the 4G is an embarrassing joke. I get it outside, barely...3/4 of a mile away from the tower, that is on a hill. I have never got 4G indoors. But I'm fine with that, I rarely need to download something big enough for me to say "gee I wish I had 4G" and there isn't wifi available at the same time. My 3G is usually nearly as fast as wifi for page loads and such (leaked eng radio FTW), but I think that also speaks poorly of the wifi performance of my E3D....
I always stay on the lookout. I would love the strength of VZW's signal....though I hang out on their towers (when necessary) via an alternate PRL and the speed doesn't really seem any faster unless it's a 'peak usage' time of day when Sprint is clogged....but even then it's not that much faster. I hear ATT/Tmobile have pretty fantastic 3G (3.5G, 3G+, kinda-4G) speeds, but, T-mobile doesn't have fantastic coverage and I doubt they have a free-roaming agreement with ATT which also doesn't have even a Sprint level of coverage...so that rules out T-mobile--not to mention they will cease to exist soon...which brings us to ATT and their complete ass-rape based service plans.
To sum it up I would like VZW's coverage, but it isn't that much better than Sprint and the data speeds are roughly on par. I would like T-mobile for the speed but the coverage is lacking and t-mobile won't exist soon....and ATT is ruled out automatically. (not to mention I have ATT for DSL and let me tell you--Worst. customer. service. ever...I somehow got shut off for paying my bill in full, early and it took hours to resolve)
and taking cost into consideration? Sprint wins, by far.
EDIT: Also, tiered data plans with unreasonably low caps? Pfffffft.
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data is total **** where i live but for my plan cost i can deal with it
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Data sucks donkey nuts where I live also, but like you said. The cost is something I can deal with too.
Yes you guys are right. The cost is what kept me with Sprint for so long (actually Sprint was very reliable in my area prior to May), but the towers around my home and work area, which is basically the same area, is screwed. It's been like this since May and they haven't done anything about it. They just make new tickets, tell me nothing is guaranteed and now blame it on my phone. They won't even listen to reason. Do you think an LG Optimus, 2 EVO4Gs, an EVO Shift and the EVO 3D all would have the same problem? Logically that's impossible, yet they tell me it's possible and blame it on my phones and the store is like "i see no problems" and wont replace. I've spent DAYS talking to these guys. Now they're telling me to go to HTC.
So I came across this information and now am switching to Verizon. True I'll have capped data, but only I use more than 2GBs (which is now impossible at 10kbps with Sprint even if I left it on all day and night). The rest of my family plan used like 400MB or 500MB. My problem is reliability. It's unnerving when not only are my friends enjoying true 4G speeds on Verizon, but my own work iPhone is leagues faster in the data department.
So anyways, I'm just passing along this info. A lot of people on SD have successfully ended their contracts with this.
Yooooooooooooooooooo
GOOD ****ING LOOKS MAN.
Damn I've been looking for something like this for a long while. I thought I was gonna end up paying the ETF for all of my lines, but this sounds like I'm out for free and I'll save around $700. What number did you call to get this done?
I'm definitely gone with Sprint's 'later' network, but I still love the EVO 3D. Such a beast of a phone on such a half-assed network. I hope I can find a good replacement.
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Yes you guys are right. The cost is what kept me with Sprint for so long (actually
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skaflone721 said:
Yooooooooooooooooooo
GOOD ****ING LOOKS MAN.
Damn I've been looking for something like
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Here's the question that begs asking:
Could you get out of your XDA contract?
For Real.
Why are you here?
Don't want to use Sprint?
Fine, but this forum is for users of a phone that Sprint carries, not Verizon. Both of you have had XDA accounts for less than a month, and ALL of your posts have been less than helpful to anyone, as evidenced here:
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You both 'joined' on nearly the same day last month, and you both seem to enjoy exactly the same threads(hmm..... )
Recommendation:
Why not turn off your phones, let go of each other, and drive to the closest Verizon outlet. Get whatever phone it is your gonna get. Then, when you guys get back, providing you still have any energy left over, you can find a forum that's NOT the Evo 3D forum, and both live happily ever after.
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Recommendation:
Why not turn off your phones, let go of each other, and drive to the closest Verizon outlet. Get whatever phone it is your gonna get. Then, when you guys get back, providing you still have any energy left over, you can find a forum that's NOT the Evo 3D forum, and both live happily ever after.
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I'm just passing along info gotten from Slickdeals because I know some people are not happy. Why don't you stop wasting your time researching everybody and stop *****ing? Stop getting defensive over people not liking Sprint. At least other people here had something to add.
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I'm just passing along info gotten from Slickdeals because I know some people are not happy. Why don't you stop wasting your time researching everybody and stop *****ing? Stop getting defensive over people not liking Sprint. At least other people here had something to add.
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Bye.
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So would you get to keep your Evo?
So let me make sure I have this straigt I call sprint say I want to cancel because of the material changes to our agreement, then I'm out ETF free right. Can anyone confirm this works?
Now how would this work if I went to Virgin or boost right after what would I have to do to make sure I keep my number?
I have nothing against sprint as far as postpaid carriers go, but the prepaids would cut my monthly bill in half which is a big deal.
Drewmungus said:
So let me make sure I have this straigt I call sprint say I want to cancel because of the material changes to our agreement, then I'm out ETF free right. Can anyone confirm this works?
Now how would this work if I went to Virgin or boost right after what would I have to do to make sure I keep my number?
I have nothing against sprint as far as postpaid carriers go, but the prepaids would cut my monthly bill in half which is a big deal.
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You should just get a Virgin or Boost phone before dropping your postpaid contract and take it for a test run. I think you "may just find" that the cut cost isn't really worth the service (customer or phone/data) or lack there of.
If it wasn't for my discount and the EVO 3D, I'd have an easier time leaving. I get **** reception at home and work. Sadly, Sprint is the best price.
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So would you get to keep your Evo?
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You paid for it didn't you... Dk why you wouldn't lol ( example of you don't own your phone mentality LOL must have been done in by Steve jobs )
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Whoever you guys go to, enjoy your capped data rates and giant price jump. Your wallet will be pissed.
Sprint isn't perfect but it's way better than verizon and at&t with customer service.
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I like Sprint, but like a lot of others I switched for the price. But where I live and work I get nothing for signal. At work i can't make calls or text, let alone use data. At home.voice functions are good but again, no data. If I didn't have great WiFi I would have left in the first couple of days. I've called Sprint and they have told me that I have mediocre service so its not the phone. I actually had an emergency at work where the phone lines went down and couldn't make a phone call to 911. Luckily some of my employees have Verizon and we were able to call and save a man's life. So i think I'm going to get out and go back to Verizon. I know it costs more, but piece of mind is worth it to me.
So my question is, how would I keep my number if i switched? I've had this number for 10 years and don't want to lose it.
I have been with Sprint since 2004 and I agree that there are multiple issues. The only reason I have stayed on is the contract pricing.
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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You had probally reached your data plan limit, now you are running in a lower donwload speeds. Thanks
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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...I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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Me too... At work streaming pandora & at home playing FPS games & downloading videos, movies... lol I dont use that much though... damn
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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No, they went to tiered data so they can bill the end user for more money while instilling the belief that people are using too much data and they can't support it.
It reminds me of the early 80s when the gas prices climbed to .75¢ a gallon and the gloom and doom prophets said the outrageous price increase was because of a limited supply, and the world would be completely devoid of fossil fuels by...wait for it...1987. Now, I have looked around, and I see that people, nearly 30 years after the world ran out of gas, are still buying the same old BS and paying upwards of $5 a gallon...while the price in Venezuela on Monday was...get this...18¢ a gallon after converting to USD.
So, don't buy the whole limited bandwidth BS. My school has multiple Gigabit connections and probably runs through more data than the average small country because its a super computing node for some high end government cluster. I asked one of the EE professors how close they were to maxing out the fiber optic line coming in and he said "oh, occasionally we will hit half a percent of total capacity".
Moral of the story: they charge you more for tiered data because you will pay it.
Now, calling someone a ****ing moron because you believe the utter BS that a greed filled multinational conglomerate feeds you about why they want to charge you more dollars for less product is somewhat odepian in nature don't you think?
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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Hey, I pay the $30 a month for the wireless tethering even though I know there are ways around it. I always pay my bill on time and I have been a loyal Verizon customer for years... So you bet I'm going to use the crap out of my grandfathered in unlimited data!!! Why would I pay another $100 a month to Verizon for Fios which would just give me what I already have through my phone...? INTERNET ACCESS!!!
While ATT truly throttles their customers based on TOTAL download, VZW's stance as I'm told prior to switching a few days ago, is: If you're on a particular tower and it is congested and you've used over 2 Gigs, your traffic will be "optimized" at a preferable speed to allow other users to use the service. So, they throttle based on tower congestion.. much fairer. If you connect to a different tower, then all the "throttling / optimization" goes away and you should be back to your normal 3g/4g speeds..until you return to the throttled tower.
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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Yep! Unlimited data plans are not that much unlimited. you have probably a caped internet, complain about it. :/
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Good day you used over 300GB and you still get good speed?
Do you drop data and if so does it happen more then 1 time a week?
I would like to know, becuase I have had some isuses and I don't know how/if I can fix it.
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Well I was at about 72GB yesterday and I downloaded a 13GB torrent file and was getting over 1.5MB down... So no I don’t think I was being throttled.
Complete ameture or "noob" as you guys say. Are these razrs simply not meant for 3g? I mean it works, but I had an iphone before and it took no time for a song on pandora to buffer. it takes an eternity on my razr.. Obviously the phone isn't firing on all cylinders in 3g but let's just say Iphone 3g > RAZR 3g. Somebody care to call me out and explain?
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Realize I spelled "amateur" wrong. Trying out swift key today and swype no longer is spelling for me.
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Droped data 3 times today in two places with -69dbm to -86dbm or 3-5 bars. It's really starting to bug me.
Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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I really think this has more to do with your location than a blanket policy. I'm in Boston and the coverage is great here and I never have any of these issues.
You guys are seeing data-dropping and 3G/4G hand-off issues (not throttling). I see this often on the west side of Indianapolis. I spoke to VZW about it today:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/97c770a3e8
I have been reading a lot in to it and I think thats it. It falls inline with what I was told about the phone geting an update. (He said it could very well be ICS too, but that seems unlikely now.)
This is the last thing that I would ever think to go bad with a motorola phone. I could see the GPU or CPU sucking or the FC all over, but I ever would have guessed data droping. Now I am starting to wish I got the 720p HTC phone.
I have a high degree of confidence that the issues will be resolved and that Motorola will remain the best hardware choice going forward on USA CDMA networks.
Phone Dog seems to have a nice video review of the EVO 4G LTE. Aaron really is becoming an excellent phone reviewer. I like the way he always goes through the apps and screens to show how the phone truly works rather than make opinionated reviews with out detailed video explanations to back what he says. HE really has nice things to say about battery life if anyone is interested. All I can say is damn.....this phone is really fast.
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-evo-4g-lte-video-review-part-1/
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-evo-4g-lte-video-review-part-2/
TEASE!!!!!!!!!! You sir lack feelings in these troubled times
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TEASE!!!!!!!!!! You sir lack feelings in these troubled times
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Troubled times needs a little inspiration to show that the trouble and wait is worth it or not. I see some people debating canceling their order with no other phone coming with in the next few weeks. Those people need inspiration to be patient! Did you hear that part where Aarons says the camera best the mighty iPhone, and calls this the best phone on the market today!
I just finished watching his review. I really like his reviews, they are almost better than Android Central's. I'm just waiting for this whole thing to get straightened out so I can actually purchase my EVO.
Best review I saw so far. I got to see what I'm looking forward to. Made me feel a little better during these troubled times.
Yeah very good review. I also agree with him about Sprints pathetic 3G download speeds. They really need to speed the NV upgrade up before they lose a ton of customers.
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Yeah very good review. I also agree with him about Sprints pathetic 3G download speeds. They really need to speed the NV upgrade up before they lose a ton of customers.
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It wasn't like this a few months ago, because I was able to get 1MB up, and down on 3G in some areas. In the last month or so it has become terrible. LOS, dropped calls delayed text messages. I hope network vision upgrades are complete here in NYC.
I was told by a CS rep that network upgrades are the problem because network vision is being rolled out very soon. I know NYC market is listed as a 1st round market for network vision to come live in 2012. I am hoping this pain will stop in June or there about!
Also may I reiterate that Aaron does a very good video review for each phone that seems fair, unbiased, and truthful.
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It wasn't like this a few months ago, because I was able to get 1MB up, and down on 3G in some areas. In the last month or so it has become terrible. LOS, dropped calls delayed text messages. I hope network vision upgrades are complete here in NYC.
I was told by a CS rep that network upgrades are the problem because network vision is being rolled out very soon. I know NYC market is listed as a 1st round market for network vision to come live in 2012. I am hoping this pain will stop in June or there about!
Also may I reiterate that Aaron does a very good video review for each phone that seems fair, unbiased, and truthful.
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I agree with you regarding the speeds. I live in Columbus, OH right now and used to get around 800-1000kbps during the day. Now its absolutely atrocious, though Columbus isn't even on the NV roll out list. Hopefully we can get LTE here before the end of 2013.
As bad as sprint 3g has been I'm still able to stream google music and spotify with no problems. But its always ugly in the speed test app.
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I agree with you regarding the speeds. I live in Columbus, OH right now and used to get around 800-1000kbps during the day. Now its absolutely atrocious, though Columbus isn't even on the NV roll out list. Hopefully we can get LTE here before the end of 2013.
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If u don't have the speedtest app download it, once downloaded change which server u use. I connect to Radnor and get better speeds than I do on the Columbus tower
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If u don't have the speedtest app download it, once downloaded change which server u use. I connect to Radnor and get better speeds than I do on the Columbus tower
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What happened when u change the server? Does that mean actual 3G data speeds will be faster?
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Yes either slower or faster depending on where u r and which tower u choose to connect
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What happened when u change the server? Does that mean actual 3G data speeds will be faster?
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It won't actually change your 3G speed in browsing the web, just your results in the SpeedTest app.
Honestly, although I like and want this ELTE device. I feel like we r being played by Sprint. I used to work for them for 5 yrs as a CSR and I like them for their plans and devices. I dont want anyone to think I'm just hating on them. I really enjoy my service and plan and genuinely roll with Sprint, but c'mon.
I mean, we have to pay an additional fee for "premium" data, but a lot of ppl don't have access to premium data. They were told they wld be rolling out 4G nationwide (for the most part) which is still not accessible nationwide. Now, all smart phones pay an additional fee? Sounds like we were hood-winked and that's just not right.
And about this release date being push-back b/c of CBP, this is absolutely insane! Ok, so you have a press conference saying this high-end (flagship) phone will be released on 5/18 for a network that's won't initially be ready until June, possibly. Then we are expected to go back to using 3G (EVO owners with 4G coverage) until the network catches up, right? And still pay an additional fee!? That's also insane and confusing like the guy in the reviews said.
My problem with that is that u have HTC, Sprint, and At&t, which are very big companies that are waiting on a major flagship device. You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have? And to make it worse, some ppl can't cancel their order?? That's Sprint saying hell no you not getting your money back even though we fudged up, you're going to wait until the phone arrives and then send it back. Yea right? After we've been drooling over the phone, we're gonna send it back once we get it? I don't think so.....I just feel like the end-user always gets "it" up the rear with no lub!
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Honestly, although I like and want this ELTE device. I feel like we r being played by Sprint. I used to work for them for 5 yrs as a CSR and I like them for their plans and devices. I dont want anyone to think I'm just hating on them. I really enjoy my service and plan and genuinely roll with Sprint, but c'mon.
I mean, we have to pay an additional fee for "premium" data, but a lot of ppl don't have access to premium data. They were told they wld be rolling out 4G nationwide (for the most part) which is still not accessible nationwide. Now, all smart phones pay an additional fee? Sounds like we were hood-winked and that's just not right.
And about this release date being push-back b/c of CBP, this is absolutely insane! Ok, so you have a press conference saying this high-end (flagship) phone will be released on 5/18 for a network that's won't initially be ready until June, possibly. Then we are expected to go back to using 3G (EVO owners with 4G coverage) until the network catches up, right? And still pay an additional fee!? That's also insane and confusing like the guy in the reviews said.
My problem with that is that u have HTC, Sprint, and At&t, which are very big companies that are waiting on a major flagship device. You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have? And to make it worse, some ppl can't cancel their order?? That's Sprint saying hell no you not getting your money back even though we fudged up, you're going to wait until the phone arrives and then send it back. Yea right? After we've been drooling over the phone, we're gonna send it back once we get it? I don't think so.....I just feel like the end-user always gets "it" up the rear with no lub!
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You are making the same mistake almost everyone else (and everyone who complains about that 10.00 data charge as far as I know) does:
Premium data does not mean 4G. It means premium data. Flip phones don't have that fee.
After the Hero came out and other smart phones became more prevalent, Sprint charged a fee that was initially erroneously assumed to be 4G related (because it came out with the Evo 4G). The data charge is simply due to the fact that smartphones use one HELL of a lot more data on the network than flip phones, or 'non-smart' phones do.
Sprint realized that as these phones became more common they were going to be adding to the networks in order to accommodate the influx of data use, and rather than simply raising the rates on their plans (which they should probably do so people stop *****ing about having to pay a '4G premium' (it isn't) when they don't have 4G service) they just added a line item surcharge.
It's not a '4g' charge. It's a charge for phones that use the most data on their networks. I find it to be eminently fair.
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You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have?
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The ONE X launched on AT&T on 5/6. The ITC didn't ban imports on that device when it launched, so what would make HTC or Sprint think the evo launch would go any differently?
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You are making the same mistake almost everyone else (and everyone who complains about that 10.00 data charge as far as I know) does:
Premium data does not mean 4G. It means premium data. Flip phones don't have that fee.
After the Hero came out and other smart phones became more prevalent, Sprint charged a fee that was initially erroneously assumed to be 4G related (because it came out with the Evo 4G). The data charge is simply due to the fact that smartphones use one HELL of a lot more data on the network than flip phones, or 'non-smart' phones do.
Sprint realized that as these phones became more common they were going to be adding to the networks in order to accommodate the influx of data use, and rather than simply raising the rates on their plans (which they should probably do so people stop *****ing about having to pay a '4G premium' (it isn't) when they don't have 4G service) they just added a line item surcharge.
It's not a '4g' charge. It's a charge for phones that use the most data on their networks. I find it to be eminently fair.
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Ok, I see your point! But what then does premium data mean? I think my TP2, Moto Q, used 3G and there wasn't an additional data fee. And I was informed by sprint that initially it was being charged b/c it was 4G device. And I believe initially only 4G devices were billed this fee. Now all smartphone are billed this fee. My point is, It's all about the money like everything else. I just think as big as Sprint is, they should know better than to count their eggs b4 they hatch.
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Ok, I see your point! But what then does premium data mean? I think my TP2, Moto Q, used 3G and there wasn't an additional data fee. And I was informed by sprint that initially it was being charged b/c it was 4G device. And I believe initially only 4G devices were billed this fee. Now all smartphone are billed this fee. My point is, It's all about the money like everything else. I just think as big as Sprint is, they should know better than to count their eggs b4 they hatch.
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It was only the Evo that had that data fee in the beginning. But it was never a 4G fee. The reps made an invalid assumption....basically never believe anything you get from a Sprint rep.
What they did was hit EVERY smart phone after the Evo with that 10.00 fee, then grandfathered in the old smart phones like the Hero. The reason they didn't have that fee prior to that is because they realized that with newer phones having a higher capable speed, coupled with the massive amount of smart phones they already had in the pipeline, they were going to blow up in terms of data usage...so they instituted the fee and to the best of my knowledge have been using it for upgrades to the network.
Again, the fee came about due to the massive amounts of data that smart phones use, whether they're on 1x, 3g, 4g. They use a TON of data. Think about how many of your apps have an hourly poll to the network (weather, most widgets, etc), then multiply that by how many smartphones are on Sprint's network and you'll begin to see why they added that fee.
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It was only the Evo that had that data fee in the beginning. But it was never a 4G fee. The reps made an invalid assumption....basically never believe anything you get from a Sprint rep.
What they did was hit EVERY smart phone after the Evo with that 10.00 fee, then grandfathered in the old smart phones like the Hero. The reason they didn't have that fee prior to that is because they realized that with newer phones having a higher capable speed, coupled with the massive amount of smart phones they already had in the pipeline, they were going to blow up in terms of data usage...so they instituted the fee and to the best of my knowledge have been using it for upgrades to the network.
Again, the fee came about due to the massive amounts of data that smart phones use, whether they're on 1x, 3g, 4g. They use a TON of data. Think about how many of your apps have an hourly poll to the network (weather, most widgets, etc), then multiply that by how many smartphones are on Sprint's network and you'll begin to see why they added that fee.
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I see your point...
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im actually getting fairly good speeds again with sprint, was getting 2mbps + for a long time, then they dropped down, now its back up again
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Verizon will be cutting of all their customers from having Unlimited Data Plans, even if you were grandfathered in.
Verizon has gotten greedy!
Shame on you Shammo! (Fran Shammo Verizon's CFO)
We need to take action! We've done it before we can do it again.
Here is the score:
Won
Verizon Imposes $2 Credit Card processing fee. 50,000 people signed petition on change.org Verizon nixed that plan.
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Verizon Imposes $30 "upgrade fee" for upgrading to a new phone
Verizon has stuck with that plan.
Score Thus far 1:1
Next line up,
Verizon will cut off all existing unlimited data customers from their Unlimited Data plans.
Lets make this a win! Sign the petition and share with everyone you know! Repost this everywhere! Let's get the word out!
Read the Article here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...r-existing-subscribers/?tag=postrtcol;mostPop
Sign Petition here! http://www.change.org/petitions/sto...unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers
I wish those petitions mattered. I know that since they are not breaching your current contract nothing can be done. Most likely they are taking off unl data if you upgrade from 3g to 4g(sing a new contract with new terms) or switching to data family plans. All current 4g unl customers might stay on unl plan unless they upgrade their phones. The terms are not clear yet. That's why let's do not panic and wait and see what happens.
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The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.
Signed!
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How about bringing back unlimited for only on 4g, like our limit of data only counts when were using 3g.. 4gb is nice but lte can eat that in less then 8 hours if i try
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lol and I pay 60$ for 1GB of HSPA and unlimited calls/messages in Germany.. D
I'll sign it btw
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The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.
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Verizon dropped those charge because of FCC warning to open an investigation. Do you think that the petition will make any difference. You are wrong my friend. I wish you were right.
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I think they are only killing 3G plans not 4G.
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Do you need to supply them with your ssn? And they can't even spell privilege. Hmmm....
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lol. + 1
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I think there is some confusion about what is happening here. They're not killing unlimited data for those people who already have it. They're making it easier to lose it, not taking it away. If you update or receive a device at a reduced rate, you lose unlimited data. Just buy your devices off Craigslist or the XDA market like I've been doing for the past couple years. Always have a newer device and spend less money than you did signing a new contract.
And before any asks, YES you can switch between devices (4G --> 4G, 4G --> 3G, 3G --> 3G, and 3G --> 4G). As long as you don't buy the phone from Verizon at a reduced rate, your plan will be unaffected. I can confirm this from speaking to multiple Verizon reps in various positions/departments/pay grades. Every one said the same thing (which is rare) so this has obviously been a topic of discussion.
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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.
For now, Sprint still offers new unlimited plans. I'll go there if Verizon cans unlimited. And, agreed... petitions don't do a thing. Verizon is responsible to their shareholders to keep the company profitable. They'll do what they do.
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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.
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They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.
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They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.
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I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.
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I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.
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I realize that there are people that use far more than you. However, my argument isn't really just about the power users. Verizon wants to restrict them because they use so much, but everyone does contribute. Everyone having unlimited just wasn't working. If they kept unlimited, more and more power users would come along, which is exactly what was happening. Yes, it is about money, because they'd lose plenty of it from running out of spectrum and switching to other carriers, who would as a consequence run out of spectrum as well, and so forth until a solution was found. As a result, the high prices on data now for power users is to try and convince them to use less data. I'm pretty sure this is how they make up for the amounts of money that they're losing for the many people on lower data plans, because as I said, my bill is now lower monthly, and I'm sure it is for plenty of other family plans too.
Also, if you want to use blocked websites at work without using up so much data on your phone, set up a proxy or VPN that runs through your home network while you're at work. Though, thinking about it, you have a government job, so that probably wouldn't work over too well... but if you're already using your phone to get past that, I don't know how far you're willing to go to get it. Just a thought on how to use less data though
EDIT: And sorry if I sound rude at all, I'm trying not to. I'm just one in the minority that supports Verizon's decision to move to the shared data system... Reddit is good at convincing me about things.
I use my phone to stream pandora to and from work every day (1hr each way) and I barely hit 1gb in a month. I tie into the wifi whenever I'm. At work or at home, but still 30gb seems excessive foe streaming music. Just saying. Lol
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LOL....30 gb is a lot of porn.
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This is not specific to the Verizon Galaxy S4, but it is indeed the only reason I will preorder the Verizon version tomorrow (as opposed to switching to another carrier).
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I imagine that's the only scenario in which I would go with Verizon's GS4. Right now their most attractive offer is $70/month for 3G speed, 2GB of data, and unlimited talk/text. Pretty much worthless in my eyes.
Too bad we have to wait 30+ damn days longer than everyone else because they're morons.
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I imagine that's the only scenario in which I would go with Verizon's GS4. Right now their most attractive offer is $70/month for 3G speed, 2GB of data, and unlimited talk/text. Pretty much worthless in my eyes.
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Agreed, especially when T-Mobile offers unlimited everything for the same cost (technically cheaper because I know T-Mobile has smaller fees and taxes).
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Too bad we have to wait 30+ damn days longer than everyone else because they're morons.
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They're not morons. They know exactly what they're doing with those dates.
On a serious note though: Nevertheless, somehow still worth the wait just to have the number 1 wireless network in the country. Come on, is our impatience really worth getting mad at them?
I agree. Paying the extra $450 to get it off contract will MORE than pay itself back bay keeping the unlimited plan. I use my Vulkano Box to placeshift to my phone or tether to my tablet and watch on that. I'm using close to 8 GB a month. Nothing close to you, but enough to pay off contract and keep my plan is well worth it.
I have grandfathered unlimited for $63/month. But youre saying that Verizon gets the S4 a month later than everyone else? Don't know if I can wait that long.
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bhags8 said:
I have grandfathered unlimited for $63/month. But youre saying that Verizon gets the S4 a month later than everyone else? Don't know if I can wait that long.
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You're really willing to give up a carrier (especially arguably the best carrier service available at this time that you won't be able to get back ever again after losing it) all because you can't wait one more month for a phone?
If you're going to go down that route you should consider not wasting away that service of yours and selling your line to someone else to take over. Grandfathered Unlimited Data plans on Verizon are as good as gold right now.
These eBay results speak for themselves: Link Here
And these are all the completed sale to give you an idea how much you can make on it: Link Here
I have two unlimited data lines that I took over for free last year right before they took away the upgrades. I bought an iPhone 4s and managed to preorder the galaxy s3 because both lines were eligible for upgrdes at the time. I consider myself lucky. I tether and share with my ATT friends at work I burn like 30gb a month verizon has never bothered me. I'm thinking Bout going to t mobile though to cut down on my bill and get gsm nexus phones
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Wow, I didn't even know it was possible to purchase Grandfather plans from other people. Kind of tempting actually, but I'd hold off until I had more scratch. As it is, I'm buying the GS4 for full retail+accessories+new monthly data plan. Good to know it's an open option though.
Wow, Assuming that is mostly streaming video? I don't think I watch that much video on my HTPC a month at 8 to 12 GB per movie, lol. Must be nice having that kind of free time on your hands.
I tether to my gaming laptop to play online games I think it burns a lot of data. Also I use xbmc to stream movies and do some Torrenting. I might skip out on gs4 and wait to see a phone with that snapdragon 800 chip I'm very interested in the quickcharge 2.0 it has that they decided to leave out on the 600 sadly
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My friend has a grandfathered unlimited data plan but to upgrade to LTE he has to sacrifice it. What's up with that?
Verizon is trying to kill off unlimited data users and forcing them to pay $50 for 1gb
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SlimJ87D said:
My friend has a grandfathered unlimited data plan but to upgrade to LTE he has to sacrifice it. What's up with that?
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Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
open1your1eyes0 said:
Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
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So the link above is good info, but is there any more detail missing? I've got unlimited LTE on my Galaxy Nexus and plan on pre-ordering the S4 tomorrow at full retail 649.99. Is there anything to be cautious of when placing the order?
I shouldn't have to change plans or anything, but is there anyway I could screw this up?
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
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Does that mean I lose my unlimited either way since I only have 3g right now, even if I buy without a new contract?
My sister in law went from the droid x to the Verizon galaxy nexus last month and did NOT lose unlimited. She just went and picked up a Sims card and popped the ***** in. Took maybe 2 minutes for the phone to be fully functional. Her plan wasn't changed at all. If you take upgrade price you will lose it
299792458 said:
So the link above is good info, but is there any more detail missing? I've got unlimited LTE on my Galaxy Nexus and plan on pre-ordering the S4 tomorrow at full retail 649.99. Is there anything to be cautious of when placing the order?
I shouldn't have to change plans or anything, but is there anyway I could screw this up?
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Pretty much it's simple. To avoid losing your unlimited data you have to meet the below requirements:
Be already on an LTE device with an unlimited data plan
Purchase your new device all full retail or on the new device payment plan (dividing full price into 12 monthly payments)
Avoid using an "upgrade" on the line you have unlimited data on at all costs!!
Try to avoid making any little other unrelated changes in your service (you never want to give them a excuse to force you over to tiered)
If you have other lines that can upgrade (like family plans) you can use their upgrade to get the device at the cheaper price and then just swap your microSIM card into it
berfles said:
Does that mean I lose my unlimited either way since I only have 3g right now, even if I buy without a new contract?
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Unfortunately it appears to be the case. But who knows, maybe if you yell loudly enough and threaten to leave Verizon unless they can confirm they will keep your unlimited data, maybe someone will be able to do some "behind-the-scenes magic" and transition over for you. But in all reality, without a serious fight for it I wouldn't count on keeping it if you upgrade even at full price.
Well if I spend $650 on the phone, I damn well will scream at them if they tell me I still lose unlimited. I'm going to have to try to find out before I do anything I guess, not like I have anything else to do for 36 damn days.
cell128 said:
I tether to my gaming laptop to play online games I think it burns a lot of data. Also I use xbmc to stream movies and do some Torrenting. I might skip out on gs4 and wait to see a phone with that snapdragon 800 chip I'm very interested in the quickcharge 2.0 it has that they decided to leave out on the 600 sadly
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See I guess there it is. I am never really in a situation anymore where I would tether my laptop. Our laptop is four years old and basically sits at the end of our kitchen table. We are pretty much 100% tablets for mobile computing now. I don't have time for in depth games much anymore. Work/gym/kids eats all my time. And if I am going to sit and "do computer", I am going to do it in the study in a proper chair with a proper keyboard, a big monitor, a mouse, and fast tower pc. Laptops have been squeezed out of my personal life by the superior overall experience of a real desktop set up and the superior portability of a tablet. Don't get me wrong...my work computer is a laptop, but I don't see much need for one for personal stuff the way my life is set up now.
I guess if I were a single twenty-something it would be different, but really, I don't have much of a need for big data mobile computing.