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Hi developers
Just wondering which developers are currently working on hacking the bootloader to get android 2.1/2.2 on the X10? Also, wondering how the progress is going? I started this thread to keep ppl updated and aware of progress being made, not as a nag.
Any info would be much appreciated for all interested.
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You should check if there's already a thread before posting.
Already one stuck at the top. Look here
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You should check if there's already a thread before posting.
Already one stuck at the top. Look here
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that my friend is for devs only.
i think that the man wanted to open a thread for the other people who do not know what all that CODE means, just like me and many other around here.
So it would be great if someone could tell the rest of US about the progress made in cracking the bootloader, if they have time of course.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726891
That thread's not good enough? An update has been posted there by one of the devs working to crack the bootloader.
yes that is a good thread,i am reading it every day to see the news .
but for a few days now there is none
So should we be worried?
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yes that is a good thread,i am reading it every day to see the news .
but for a few days now there is none
So should we be worried?
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As long as it isn't cracked we should be worried but remember how it was with the rooting...
yep..
patience....and more patience
neomira said:
Hi developers
Just wondering which developers are currently working on hacking the bootloader to get android 2.1/2.2 on the X10? Also, wondering how the progress is going? I started this thread to keep ppl updated and aware of progress being made, not as a nag.
Any info would be much appreciated for all interested.
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I'm not one of the developers but I know what they are doing code wise. The process is basically 'tinker with things until finding the one that allows it to work'. There is no 10%, 15%, 20% levels to report to us folks here. It goes from 0% to 95% (works but not perfected for us non-coders) to 100% when they release a walkthrough or guide for us.
So until they hit the part where it works for them, there is nothing to report. All they can say is that they've tried a lot of things(which we wouldn't understand anyhow) and they haven't found one to work yet, so just wait patiently until they come out and say it's been done, just like when we were waiting on root.
so the x10 is locked just like the milestone? =/ why doesnt sony ericsson get bad press then?
Why you ask? It is simple!
The X10 user base is quite small! Most people don't care for the X10 at all! It is inferior to any other device in the its price group! You will say that it has an 8MP Camera! Yes but the quality is worse than the 5MP Camera of HTC HD2! I have them both! Most other devices in this price range are Android 2.1 (all of them soon going to 2.2) and the X10 is still 1.6 with a supposed update to 2.1 "soon"! RAM! Most other devices in this price range have atleast 512MB RAM!
Lets face it! This is a big failure for SE! Surely not the last one!
I myself will be getting something once I sell my X10
OrionBG said:
Why you ask? It is simple!
The X10 user base is quite small! Most people don't care for the X10 at all! It is inferior to any other device in the its price group! You will say that it has an 8MP Camera! Yes but the quality is worse than the 5MP Camera of HTC HD2! I have them both! Most other devices in this price range are Android 2.1 (all of them soon going to 2.2) and the X10 is still 1.6 with a supposed update to 2.1 "soon"! RAM! Most other devices in this price range have atleast 512MB RAM!
Lets face it! This is a big failure for SE! Surely not the last one!
I myself will be getting something once I sell my X10
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that would be *your* point of view; don't take what you think for an absolute truth.
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that would be *your* point of view; don't take what you think for an absolute truth.
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Yes! Lets hear your point of view! Tell me with what is the X10 better than any of the other devices in this price range?
I got mine for 200 bucks less than desire, with larger screen I think that it was a really good deal
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I got mine for 200 bucks less than desire, with larger screen I think that it was a really good deal
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Yes you've got quite a bargain! But was this with a contract?
My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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i got mine for 279 pounds when the desire was selling for 350 pounds.
Why is everyone comparing to the desire? The desire has smaller screen worse camera and is butt ugly imo. The only thing going for it is the more ram wich doesnt matter really and 2.1 oh and the faulty dualtouch like the nexus
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Yes and if you are not a developer then you shouldn't be posting in the developers forum. Thanks, I'll ask the mods to close this.
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My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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SOON is the word here! I'll never do the mistake to buy something will "soon" be made better! Even the HD2 with a ported Android 2.1/2.2 is faster than the crappy SE software! And HD2 Makes better pictures! The test were made by a photographer and the pics were carefully studied! (only because we had non agreement on which is the better camera)! BTW The flash of the X10 is pathetic!
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My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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Actually I can get brand new unlocked X10's for $450 here, nothing I can find comes close to that in cost. I actually only paid $300 for mine, it was 1 week old with less than an hour of talk time. Very happy with mine the way it is right now. And it's just going to get better.
Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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First, ask this question in desire forums ;-)
Second: one thing better in x10 is slightly bigger screen. In practice this means about two lines of book in aldiko. Width and number of pixels are the same.
I have both phones now, first bought x10, then desire...currently looking at one rom per day thanks to easy rom backup. (now: defrost)
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No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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New phones wont be fully cracked and modded, and certainly wont have similar price to x10..
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isthisreallife said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
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It's a freakin' awesome idea...!!
I'd be keeping ideas like that to myself though, someone might steal it and use it themselves.
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Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
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Why sell a 7 month old phone just to buy an 8 month old phone?
Try the Desire HD or Desire Z if you want a newer phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3077
except the MT issue on X10, the x10 is much bether bether camera, larger display more rom, battery life etc ..
me and probably thousand people wait for a custom rom witch alow MT/ or at least dual touch
x10 vs desire
dani187 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3077
except the MT issue on X10, the x10 is much bether bether camera, larger display more rom, battery life etc ..
me and probably thousand people wait for a custom rom witch alow MT/ or at least dual touch
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Camera: complementary and not fundamental to the workings of a smart phone.
Dispaly: 3.8 inch amoled with multitouch better than 4 inch TFT single touch
Rom: I think RAM is more important to the user and the dseire has 512mb compared to the x10 384mb
Battery Lifeurely subjective
Let's not forget that you get froyo and all its goodness on the desire while the x10, save for the devs cracking the bootloader, is destined to die with 2.1. Also HTC sense much better and more functional than the dreary UXP.
I don't think you'll find any review on any of the tech blogs that actually put the x10 ahead of the desire. The desire wins there unanimously.
Having said all that, I think like others who have said, you should wait until q1 next year when newer phones get released and then make your choice. Unless you want to at least get something reasonable back for your x10 before it becomes valueless.
I think that the crux of this question lies in the users needs...
For example.. tell us your top 3 uses of your phone.. (texting, watching video, browsing, streaming video from websites, listening to music, camera..... etc.etc)...
That way you'll get some feedback on the elements that really matter to you rather than having everyone commenting on the elements that matter to them..
For me.. I wouldn't have a Desire.. simply because it's ugly.. but that's just my opinion on a feature of the phone which is important to me.
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Camera: complementary and not fundamental to the workings of a smart phone.
Dispaly: 3.8 inch amoled with multitouch better than 4 inch TFT single touch
Rom: I think RAM is more important to the user and the dseire has 512mb compared to the x10 384mb
Battery Lifeurely subjective
Let's not forget that you get froyo and all its goodness on the desire while the x10, save for the devs cracking the bootloader, is destined to die with 2.1. Also HTC sense much better and more functional than the dreary UXP.
I don't think you'll find any review on any of the tech blogs that actually put the x10 ahead of the desire. The desire wins there unanimously.
Having said all that, I think like others who have said, you should wait until q1 next year when newer phones get released and then make your choice. Unless you want to at least get something reasonable back for your x10 before it becomes valueless.
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The Desire loses because it's an old phone. The X10 loses as well.
Why would anyone buy an old phone when the newer version is already on the market?!
Not to mention, the X10's screen absolutely blows the Desire's AMOLED out of the water. There's a reason they changed it to SLCD.
Ive got both these phones at the moment and i have to say, as much as i love the x10 there isnt a hope in hell of me ever using it again. Sense is a better ui, im finding the battery life to be better, has froyo and custom roms, it might just be me but the screen seems more vibrant, i can actually hear the other person, my signal at home now stays on 3g permenantly where it used to drop to 2.5g the majority of the time, the software is a lot smoother and more responsive, the custom htc software like the music app is much better than sonys attempts and it has multitouch. The only thing i miss is the camera and app from the x10 but seeing as i take about 10 photos a year on my phone i think i can live with that.
All of this is just my opinion of course and if you disagree then thats your right but my x10 is being sold pretty soon and ill never be buying se again. The only reason i didnt get a desire hd or z is because for the cost it doesnt seem worth it really, i could get 2 desires for the same price as 1 hd or z.
I bought my X10 same day it was released in Sweden. (I think it was 31th march last year)
Have upgraded my phone with Free X10 beta 3 and are still using that.
Vignette and other apps does not take as good pictures as stock SE ROM does, but I refuse going back to SE 2.1 again.
Then I became really excited when I noticed that Trip will try to port a ROM from X10 Arc, but now it seems like that is a progress that won't be really finished (I mean working with X10, camera and camcorder).
I think its about time to abandon my X10 now.
My question is, which phone should I buy?
I want a real good camera (and a camcorder that records in HD)
I want speed.
I want good screen behaviour like iPhone. (x10 screen isnt the best IMO)
I want a big screen. (no tablet size)
I want Android 2.3
If I should stay with my X10 for a while, is there a "monster-phone" upcoming? Brand doesnt matter for me now, so long its Android OS.
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iPhone
Arc (Don't think the screen is as good as iphones)
Well theres a lot of phones coming out now..I'd wait and see what reaction they all get before jumping..
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Arc has the better camera ( speed and quality ) till nic, with Exmor R sensors to record low light conditions... Other than that Galaxy S II can record 1080p videos, but will be poor in low light conditions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=7RdNfff_-0g
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Well theres a lot of phones coming out now..I'd wait and see what reaction they all get before jumping..
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Where can I see wich one are coming? Which seems to be best?
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Arc has the better camera ( speed and quality ) till nic, with Exmor R sensors to record low light conditions... Other than that Galaxy S II can record 1080p videos, but will be poor in low light conditions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=7RdNfff_-0g
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X10 pro is better than Arc I think? So Arc is a no.
No it's not.. Arc and neo are essentially the same.. And both very good.. There is no such phone as x10 pro! search for mobile world congress.. You'll see all the up coming phones.
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No it's not.. Arc and neo are essentially the same.. And both very good.. There is no such phone as x10 pro! search for mobile world congress.. You'll see all the up coming phones.
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This must be a better phone than Arc or Neo?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperia-pro?cc=se&lc=sv#view=overview
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This must be a better phone than Arc or Neo?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperia-pro?cc=se&lc=sv#view=overview
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Same specs with extra hardware keyboard if you're into that
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Well, is there a non-SE upcoming that is very interesting?
Lol these threads always turn out the same... I would start away from se stuff personally as dual core phones are going to be the next big wave. Buy something more future proof..
Atrix has a good camera, gets quadrant scores of 2400-2800 right out if the box, and has dual core so will be keeping with the times much more than the new sonys...
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Lol these threads always turn out the same... I would start away from se stuff personally as dual core phones are going to be the next big wave. Buy something more future proof..
Atrix has a good camera, gets quadrant scores of 2400-2800 right out if the box, and has dual core so will be keeping with the times much more than the new sonys...
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Atrix looks really good! But is Motorola available in Sweden at all?
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Atrix looks really good! But is Motorola available in Sweden at all?
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I'm not sure! I'll be really jealous if it is, it's not yet in canada lol
Is there something similar? Or is Galalxy II the best available?
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Is there something similar? Or is Galalxy II the best available?
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galaxy 2 is the best otherwise right now anyway...
You definitely want something with a tegra 2 processor
the whole dual core thing has been debated a lot, and not everyone thinks that it's the way to go just yet... it's new and android 2.3 doesn't fully support it... I'm undecided and would rather wait to see the real world reports before deciding if it's a good thing or not..
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the whole dual core thing has been debated a lot, and not everyone thinks that it's the way to go just yet... it's new and android 2.3 doesn't fully support it... I'm undecided and would rather wait to see the real world reports before deciding if it's a good thing or not..
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motorola's custom skin is built around it from what I've read, they get quadrant scores of 2400-2800 with absolutely no customizations..
I'm not even talking just about dual core, but also the graphics performance of tegra 2. There are going to be many awesome games coming out (and many out already) than can only run on the t2 chip..
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Lol these threads always turn out the same... I would start away from se stuff personally as dual core phones are going to be the next big wave. Buy something more future proof..
Atrix has a good camera, gets quadrant scores of 2400-2800 right out if the box, and has dual core so will be keeping with the times much more than the new sonys...
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Quadrant scores mean nothing, they are simply just numbers based on some hardware and software tests. My galaxy tab's score is twice higher than my X10's, yet it lags and too many force-closes, even though flashed it many times and have the latest update. In other words my X10 is a lot smoother
My point is you can't just compare two devices based on those scores, your argument is not strong enough. Have you tried the Atrix? Arc? if you did then you can say which is better, if not, you can't state your opinion as a fact
By the way Atrix will have a bootloader locked similar to the X10's, could be crackable but we have to wait and see the developers here and what they can do... Link
But I have to say, Atrix and Galaxy S II have better hardware specs than the Arc. But in the end you have to go with what suits your needs, dual-core? then don't go with SE. LG Optimus 3D might interest you, with 3D camera and glasses-free 3D parallax barrier screen technology.
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Quadrant scores mean nothing, they are simply just numbers based on some hardware and software tests. My galaxy tab's score is twice higher than my X10's, yet it lags and too many force-closes, even though flashed it many times and have the latest update. In other words my X10 is a lot smoother
My point is you can't just compare two devices based on those scores, your argument is not strong enough. Have you tried the Atrix? Arc? if you did then you can say which is better, if not, you can't state your opinion as a fact
By the way Atrix will have a bootloader locked similar to the X10's, could be crackable but we have to wait and see the developers here and what they can do... Link
But I have to say, Atrix and Galaxy S II have better hardware specs than the Arc. But in the end you have to go with what suits your needs, dual-core? then don't go with SE. LG Optimus 3D might interest you, with 3D camera and glasses-free 3D parallax barrier screen technology.
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I never said anything about performance, though reviews of the atrix are overwhelmingly positive...
I talked about future proofing.
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I never said anything about performance, though reviews of the atrix are overwhelmingly positive...
I talked about future proofing.
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processor technology moves too quick for ANYTHING to be future proofed.. all I really need in a phone is one which runs smoothly doing the things I want it to do, and is stable... that's why i'd rather wait and see how the latest batch perform in real world before I decide for myself which is best for my needs. One of which is Aesthetics - so SE gets my vote for that point.
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Vignette and other apps does not take as good pictures as stock SE ROM does, but I refuse going back to SE 2.1 again.
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You cant be serious??
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I got it for $400 after tax.
I didn't have intention to buy until I heard 2.3 is coming in 2-3 months, so I decide to jump in and get the phone.
I am just wondering is it too late to get it while it has 465MB for storage and 256MB RAM (but I don't see much problem even I open few applications at a time).
Bottom line is: it's a decent phone if it's not better than G2x.
If all you're going to do is use the media player, surf the web, and play some simple games, it'll be just fine. I'm hopeful that 2.3 will make it smoother, but that remains to be seen.
But if I had to get a phone today that worked on t-zones, I'd get the Incredible S, which I got for my gf. And man, that phone is snappy as hell with a Very good screen even though I'm not a huge fan of Sense. Not to say that I'm not happy with my x10, I love the fact that it has actual buttons and wouldn't consider trading it for anything at the moment.
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I got it for $400 after tax.
I didn't have intention to buy until I heard 2.3 is coming in 2-3 months, so I decide to jump in and get the phone.
I am just wondering is it too late to get it while it has 465MB for storage and 256MB RAM (but I don't see much problem even I open few applications at a time).
Bottom line is: it's a decent phone if it's not better than G2x.
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I've had the phone since launch
And thanks XDA devs my phone is now better than most other stock new android phones
If you can get it relatively cheapish I would recommend it
The only thing I think that spoils it is the dual touch isn't too great for multitouch gaming,
Other than that once the 2.3.3 update is out it will last me till April 2012 when 2.4 is out and dual core is at its best
Hope this has helped
EDIT: X10 has 384mb ram
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Dude, i love my X10 but for that price i would have just saved another 150 and got a sgs2 or arc. $400 is kinda expensive today for a X10. Just my opinion tho. If your happy, thats all that really matters.
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$400 is a bit high for a x10. But since you got it already, enjoy it
I wanted to get Incredible S, but difficulty to root is a concern.
X10 is pretty easy to root with SOC, but I have no plan to load custom ROM because I have to find more "workable" 2.2 ROM, but again, as 2.3 is on the way, it should be worth to wait.
Tip: nokia (N8) stereo headset works with mic, and I got a special plug adapter so I can use iphone headset with it.
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I wanted to get Incredible S, but difficulty to root is a concern.
X10 is pretty easy to root with SOC, but I have no plan to load custom ROM because I have to find more "workable" 2.2 ROM, but again, as 2.3 is on the way, it should be worth to wait.
Tip: nokia (N8) stereo headset works with mic, and I got a special plug adapter so I can use iphone headset with it.
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Really? If you're interested in rooting the x10 just to get a better ROM, you should've just gotten the Incredible S. Especially since the Incredible S is getting 2.3 tomorrow and it's a generation ahead of the x10. Hell, if you wanted 2.3, you could've gotten the HD2 for $80 and throw it on there.
Not to say you made a bad decision or anything. The x10 can be a good phone instead of just ok as it is right now.
400? Jesus you could get a phone ten times better for that :S
I like it, but mine was only 200, and not on a contract
Wow 400.. Im considering selling my x10 for 150 lol (locked to Rogers though)
once the 2.3 update hits the X10, it will be a much more respectable phone, but $400 is a bit much, I mean, I have AT&T and got mine from Bestbuy for free, so go figure.
I think you must go for the ARC, the reason is the Multi Touch and more Free Ram, and about the same price, and you will get a lot of future updates, a pretty phone. I don't know, is what i think.(Not in my country yet, because that i have a x10 but uber modded of course)
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I think you must go for the ARC, the reason is the Multi Touch and more Free Ram, and about the same price, and you will get a lot of future updates, a pretty phone. I don't know, is what i think.(Not in my country yet, because that i have a x10 but uber modded of course)
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ARC doesn't work with T-Mobile/Wind AT ALL.
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ARC doesn't work with T-Mobile/Wind AT ALL.
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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Sgs2 is crap horrible battery life.
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Sgs2 is crap horrible battery life.
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lol same battery life as arc and ten times as powerful...
top rated android phone to date.
you don't know much about technology or components do you?
After 20 hours we managed to drag the Galaxy S II down to 15 percent of its original charge
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he 1500mAh battery inside the Arc doesn't quite match the Play's endurance, but will still give you a solid day's worth of regular use (and not much more).
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from reviews....
from many they get the same battery life approximately.
Yet one is light years ahead in specs/components lol
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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Arc is crap? I mean sure, sgs2 is a better buy but cmon... if you've ever used Samsung/TouchWiz you'll know their idea of a UI is either:
1.Ripoff iOS UI in many different ways and get sued for it
2.Bright colourful icons with a font that appeals to a 5 year old
Hardware wise (except for the camera), clearly, it blows everything else out of the water. Software, not so much. Same goes for design
Also I've read a lot of reviews that say the SGS2 has a horrible battery life.. but then again, I've read a lot saying the Arc's is crap too
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Arc is crap? I mean sure, sgs2 is a better buy but cmon... if you've ever used Samsung/TouchWiz you'll know their idea of a UI is either:
1.Ripoff iOS UI in many different ways and get sued for it
2.Bright colourful icons with a font that appeals to a 5 year old
Hardware wise (except for the camera), clearly, it blows everything else out of the water. Software, not so much. Same goes for design
Also I've read a lot of reviews that say the SGS2 has a horrible battery life.. but then again, I've read a lot saying the Arc's is crap too
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easily changed with a diff launcher, and 4.0 blows 3.0 out of the water.
I think it is better than the arc in every way, reviews tend to agree.
The arc is another se fail imo... too little too late
The ARC is sexy though
I don't think the ARC is a fail, though there are better phones you can buy with just a bit more money.
Who's your operating service? Get a 4g 2011 phone with that $$
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In a few months it's gonna be time for me to upgrade my phone. I was so sick of the xperia x10 w/ all of sony's and AT&T's holdups. Is anyone else thinking of getting the ARC?
I like some of sony's UI features, like the camera. Google's stock camera is disgusting. But I havent used it because I have to run a custom 2.2 rom that it doesnt work with.
I say go for a HTC
Like sensation
It is a beast ...
Or desire s
The nice all in all phone
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vious22 said:
I say go for a HTC
Like sensation
It is a beast ...
Or desire s
The nice all in all phone
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But Sensation battery life sucks afaik. I'd go for the SGS II as most of the people do at the moment. Only thing is, compared with the Arc, all the other phones (and especially the SGS II and HTC phones) look boring and generic
With GB and custom kernels, my X10 will hopefully stay with me until the next generation of phones is revealed Maybe I'd even go for a MeeGo device, if Android apps are finally supported. Its perfomance and multitasking are really impressive and it'd be a nice change to see something different from Android.
I'm gonna stick with x10 until a beautiful next generation phone comes out. Or I may buy xperia ray, looks great and smaller than arc with pretty much same specs and front camera for video/skype calling.
Sg2 is great, after I tried in shop, but man its ugly.
I may sound a bit old fashioned but I'm getting annoyed with these massive brick phones, smaller for me please
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In a few months it's gonna be time for me to upgrade my phone. I was so sick of the xperia x10 w/ all of sony's and AT&T's holdups. Is anyone else thinking of getting the ARC?
I like some of sony's UI features, like the camera. Google's stock camera is disgusting. But I havent used it because I have to run a custom 2.2 rom that it doesnt work with.
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I have a x10 and I ugraded to the atrix dual core 4G. Which is awesome and really fast. The arc is to outdated in hardware specs. But I know the arc has a good camera and has gingerbread.
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For me the ARC is a definite no go. If your upgrading on a 2 year contract, then I would say loud and clear "stay as far away from the ARC as you can". In my opinion the arc has the same shelf life as the x10. However, if you have been happy in the main with the x10, then you can go for the beautiful design of the arc over the competency and performance of the other phones (SGS2, Optimus 3d and Sensation).
Personally, I now have a very different view of smartphones to that which I had last year. Then I had the view that they were just cleverer phones but now I know that they are more like mini computers. I wouldn't buy a single core computer for the same price as a dual cored machine because it looked prettier. The same,for me anyways, now applies to smartphones.
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For me the ARC is a definite no go. If your upgrading on a 2 year contract, then I would say loud and clear "stay as far away from the ARC as you can". In my opinion the arc has the same shelf life as the x10. However, if you have been happy in the main with the x10, then you can go for the beautiful design of the arc over the competency and performance of the other phones (SGS2, Optimus 3d and Sensation).
Personally, I now have a very different view of smartphones to that which I had last year. Then I had the view that they were just cleverer phones but now I know that they are more like mini computers. I wouldn't buy a single core computer for the same price as a dual cored machine because it looked prettier. The same,for me anyways, now applies to smartphones.
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exactly...
buying an arc now or soon at the price it is would be cheating yourself in some way imo.
Sure it looks nice, but imagine in 6 months time how dated it will be.
Do yourself a favour and either wait till SE releases something current, or buy something current
no way to get one more SE phone. done with them, i'm heading for SGS2 or LG Optimus 3D in the 2nd half of the year.
SE burned their bridges with me on the x10.
I was always a big SE fan and had nothing but good things to say about them.
But the x10 ruined it for me, so i will have to swap brands for a company that cares about it customers.
If SE had made effort with the X10, i would have bought a newer SE phone but they dropped us in the water.
there is no change in hell i give another 400 Euros for 16m colors,bravia engine and unlocked bootloader, even if i was rich.
If i wanted to buy a new phone i d buy samsung galaxy s2.
NO, Arc is ugly, But might go xperia Neo or Active(underwater video shotting)
Nah it's like buying a Nexus One now, you might as well wait and get something that has a newer lifespan.
There is Q&A section for posting this.
Finally time to buy a new phone. My Xperia X10 has failed so bad. I'll never go with SE again. Which is sad.