Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
Pics or it didn't happen.
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I agree with jamesd, it is like a windshield on a car, it will not shatter. Also, Gorilla glass is not indestructible, just much harder to scratch and break. go look at the website!
is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass? gonna try to find the cam now, if i cant, i will take some pics tomorrow with my girlfriend phone
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is there a possible it can be a refurb w/o gorila glass?
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You mean just for cost reasons? Its not indestructible, but theres no doubt its better than regular glass.
Cant be scrached doesnt mean it cant be shattered. It all depends on the material's physical property. Nexus s would be ur best bet for t mobile or vibrant 4g
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what about an desire hd?
Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
I dropped my phone and it got a crack. It costs $80 to repair
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the problem is that i not live in us, and this phone doesnt have support by samsung here, so i will have to buy the lcd+digitizer and fix it myself, ending in about 130 usd
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Gorilla Glass is much stronger than regular glass but is not unbreakable. It's strength also depends on how thick it is, which varies from one application to the next. If Samsung used a thinner layer either because of expense or to keep the device thinner, it may explain why these screens tend to shatter pretty easily. I will say that I've had my phone for 6 months, have never used a screen protector, and don't have a single scratch anywhere on the screen.
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+1000! Only I've had mine since release day, so, 9 months now!
I see friends phones with the screen protectors on them and no matter how good of a job you do a screen protector looks like ****!
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Dude get the nexus s, roms and over clocks are gonna be sick. plus they curved the screen a bit, so if it falls, the edges of the phone hit the floor instead of the screen.
Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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Im so pissed right now, thats impossible to describe. or i am the unluckiest person in the world, or this glass is a ****.
Ok, i carried the phone in my pocket without screen protector for a month, no scrachs, but now, the FIRST TIME! the phone fell down.. from about 1 meter AT MOST, on a stone floor...
IT SMASHED IN ONE THOUSAND PIECES!
how can a 100gr phone have the power to in 1meter, smash an "almost" indestructible glass? what the **** was that?
if it was scrashed, if it EVEN got a damage on the screen, but one thousand pieces?
Not to mention that i got an Otterbox...
Well im now thinking in taking a new phone, gona fix this one first.
any sugestions of a better phone? dont say sgs2, needs to be now
thanks and sorry for the angry... if anyone wants i can post a pic of the totally **** it became
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Dude, Gorilla glass is a mix-design that makes the glass surface very hard and the material 3 times more flexible than normal glass........BUT.... it still is glass and if you drop any glass and it hits just right .....the glass breaks. Since this type of glass is also a tempered variety when it breaks it shatters.
Me ? I have dropped my phone from 10 feet and nothing so, I ll chalk it up to you being lucky........or unlucky I should say............
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Gorilla glass is scratch proof but not more resistant the breakage. And the fact that the glass is end to end, an impact on the side can travel to the side of the glass, where its most susceptible to breaking into pieces, like it happened to you...
I did throw my phone twice on the wall out of anger, didn't happen to my phone luckily... Ur drop must be a peculiar type directly at the weakest point... Silicon cases, ur best bet next time... I had one on when I threw the phone...
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You threw you vibrant not one but two times on the wall and still it survived while this guy only dropped it once and always kept it safe yet had it shatter to pieces with the first unfortunate accident.
What a cruel world.
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Man, my friggin digitizer crack one day, literally like a sheet of thin ice even with a case on. Now, the new one has a tiny scratch and I haven't done anything to it. I have never had such a fragile digitizer on any phone before. Only thing that really bothers me coming from HTC MyTouch 4g where I was in a bar fight and my phone was dragged across the floor and only had scratches, never cracked when it should have been destroyed, lol. Anybody else thing the digitizer is crappy?
Don't get me wrong either, I am careful with my phone, i just can't believe how badly it shattered on a short drop. Annoying as hell!!
I've dropped my phone with and without my commuter case at least a dozen times on a construction site without even a scratch.
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Funny you say that. All touchscreen phones are like this. Thin glass. And being that motorola generally makes quality hardware and the plastic on the atrix absorbing impact better than metal phones, methinks you need to take better care of your phone. I see a lot phones during the work week and it seems ive seen a lot of cracked iphones lately. Im not fond of apple but i concede that their phones are high quality. Cant fault a phone or its manufacturer for dropping your phone. You sound silly when you make the mistake but shift the blame.
I voided my warranty.
My first Atrix was tossed out of the car at onto asphalt. I didn't have a case or screen protector on it and after picking up the cover and the battery, everything was fine. A couple scratches and bumps in the plastic but everything worked fine.
The screen finally broke on a fast ball pitch straight down to the floor.
Women are so volatile!
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Funny you say that. All touchscreen phones are like this. Thin glass. And being that motorola generally makes quality hardware and the plastic on the atrix absorbing impact better than metal phones, methinks you need to take better care of your phone. I see a lot phones during the work week and it seems ive seen a lot of cracked iphones lately. Im not fond of apple but i concede that their phones are high quality. Cant fault a phone or its manufacturer for dropping your phone. You sound silly when you make the mistake but shift the blame.
I voided my warranty.
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If I wasn't comparing it to past phones I could see you saying it was shifting blame. Kind of silly that you are not too bright.
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Man, my friggin digitizer crack one day, literally like a sheet of thin ice even with a case on. Now, the new one has a tiny scratch and I haven't done anything to it. I have never had such a fragile digitizer on any phone before. Only thing that really bothers me coming from HTC MyTouch 4g where I was in a bar fight and my phone was dragged across the floor and only had scratches, never cracked when it should have been destroyed, lol. Anybody else thing the digitizer is crappy?
[COLOR="[B]Black"]Don't get me wrong either, I am careful with my phone, i just can't believe how badly it shattered on a short drop.[/B][/COLOR] Annoying as hell!!
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hmmm... not too bright huh? i can't believe how smart you are after getting dropped on your head.
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My first Atrix was tossed out of the car at onto asphalt. I didn't have a case or screen protector on it and after picking up the cover and the battery, everything was fine. A couple scratches and bumps in the plastic but everything worked fine.
The screen finally broke on a fast ball pitch straight down to the floor.
Women are so volatile!
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Lmao..was she jealous over your phone? I'm sure sometimes my wife would like to "drop" my phone lol..
OP..I've dropped mine getting out of my truck onto ashpalt (3-4ft drop) and it came out completely unscathed..so who know..you either got really bad luck..or need to try harder being careful
Ive dropped my phone onto concrete, rocks, grass, tile, carpet all without a case on. 1 MINOR ding n no scratches. I got a otterbox on it now though. Luck sucks.
Sent from the Darkside of the Atrix.
Yeah i agree :\
My atrix fell out of my pocket when getting out of the car, even with the Otterbox Commuter it still smashed :S
I've ordered a new digitalizer to replace myself, $70 later.
lol my atrix sliped off my leg and fell 3 feet and got broken screen over the buttons @the bottom now
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So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
They say it's Gorilla Glass, but what's that really mean?
Just wondering if she wears any rings, such as diamonds? Maybe it got dragged across the screen. Just a thought or do you know what caused it already?
Really sorry to hear, cause I would be going nuts about it. Not at her per say, but just having that scratch would make me nuts.
Just another quick thought. If it was for her to get used to, I would ask for hers before she scratches it. Surely have yours convinced her she can't live without her own.
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So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
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*grumble. the thanks button is way too close to the quote button....
It's gorrilla glass, but unfortunately, it's made of glass, not gorrillas. But yes, it's the same stuff as used in lots of consumer electronics. Ask Du Pont if you want more info. Scratch resistant, not scratch proof...
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So apparently I lent the tablet to my sister to get the hang of it (I know what they say about women and technology) but yeah soon to regret, After cleaning up and making the screen all shiny I noticed a rather long 1" scratch on the screen, I thought it was something that a little damp cloth can wipe off turns out it's actually scratched the screen. I've never dropped the tablet but I can't say the same when women handle it (No offense ladies, if ever)
I wouldn't mind if the sides got dented, but that 1" of deep scratch shattered my heart to pieces. So question is, I thought the glass was GorillaGlass, dafuq samsung? I've had a 3Gs for almost a year or more, and there isn't a single dent/scratch on that screen despite the heavy usage on it, same with my 8 month old Galaxy S.
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Yes, it's gorilla glass. Yes, it's resistant to scratches. No, it's not immune to them. It WILL get scratched if you chop your vegetables on it, it will get broken if you drop it from 2 meters, it will look like Swiss cheese if you shot at it with a minigun.
On a more realistic note, it can also get scratched by diamond rings, by putting it on the floor/table face-down, by pulling it in and out of a tight case if some sand somehow gets in the case, ...
Lending my device to other people is why I always have it in a case and why I have a screen protector on it.
If you're sure your sister is the one who made the scratch, and she is buying her own one, I'd ask her to trade the devices or something.
There are also some products around that claim they can remove scratches, but I don't have any experience with them.
Putting a screen protector on might just change the flow of light in a way that'll hide the scratch, but it can also do it in a way that'll make it even more visible/annoying. I believe The Invisible Shield was also said to be very good with hiding scratches, some people say that you can barely see any big scratches after it's on for a week or two. But again, no experience with that so I can't really say...
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Yes, it's gorilla glass. Yes, it's resistant to scratches. No, it's not immune to them. It WILL get scratched if you chop your vegetables on it, it will get broken if you drop it from 2 meters, it will look like Swiss cheese if you shot at it with a minigun.
On a more realistic note, it can also get scratched by diamond rings, by putting it on the floor/table face-down, by pulling it in and out of a tight case if some sand somehow gets in the case, ...
Lending my device to other people is why I always have it in a case and why I have a screen protector on it.
If you're sure your sister is the one who made the scratch, and she is buying her own one, I'd ask her to trade the devices or something.
There are also some products around that claim they can remove scratches, but I don't have any experience with them.
Putting a screen protector on might just change the flow of light in a way that'll hide the scratch, but it can also do it in a way that'll make it even more visible/annoying. I believe The Invisible Shield was also said to be very good with hiding scratches, some people say that you can barely see any big scratches after it's on for a week or two. But again, no experience with that so I can't really say...
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I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" I don't know if you watched the initial release before the 2G iPhone came out and they kept talking about how Gorilla Glass was one of the best inventions and so the praise went on, the had some live demo's and it was amazing (2 years ago). I don't really know if the glass on the tablet is not thick enough? or it's just a really thin glass pane? I do appreciate the feedback and thank you @slack for the free "thanks" hahaha, then again I too have a leather case (for the 7510 series) but people often mistake it for "ZOMG IS DAT AN IPAD?" and that disappointment on apple sheeps when you tell them it's a Galaxy Tab, they go like, "what's that?"..*FLIP TABLES AND *****
Putting on a protective screen is like wearing a condom while attempting to get a woman knocked up or better yet, giving a bulletproof vest to a tank, Best example I could think of so far, sorry . I'm not dissing android but putting on screen protects kinda adds another layer at which the device makes it harder to read your "touch" or electric impulses are they call it, I had one that came free with my initial Galaxy S and it was horrible, worst thing ever. Touch was less responsive and you had to press it hard enough like them old school vending machines.
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I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" I don't know if you watched the initial release before the 2G iPhone came out and they kept talking about how Gorilla Glass was one of the best inventions and so the praise went on, the had some live demo's and it was amazing (2 years ago). I don't really know if the glass on the tablet is not thick enough? or it's just a really thin glass pane? I do appreciate the feedback and thank you @slack for the free "thanks" hahaha, then again I too have a leather case (for the 7510 series) but people often mistake it for "ZOMG IS DAT AN IPAD?" and that disappointment on apple sheeps when you tell them it's a Galaxy Tab, they go like, "what's that?"..*FLIP TABLES AND *****
Putting on a protective screen is like wearing a condom while attempting to get a woman knocked up or better yet, giving a bulletproof vest to a tank, Best example I could think of so far, sorry . I'm not dissing android but putting on screen protects kinda adds another layer at which the device makes it harder to read your "touch" or electric impulses are they call it, I had one that came free with my initial Galaxy S and it was horrible, worst thing ever. Touch was less responsive and you had to press it hard enough like them old school vending machines.
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Yes, I've watched a lot of stuff about gorilla glass, but I've also done some live testing at my university (we got a batch of pieces to compare it to normal glass). I even have the specific results somewhere ...
All in all yes, it's a great improvement. It is seriously resistant to scratches, it's much much (and I mean MUCH) harder to break, but still, it isn't perfect.
I wouldn't say your bulletproof vest - tank example is completely appropriate here, since a bullet shot at a tank wouldn't compromise the tanks usability (at least not mostly, there are some extreme cases when it might, but let's leave that stuff to Hollywood) - but a scratch on the screen of a tablet definitely would. And a screen protector does help against scratches from diamond rings.
I have an Ultra Crystal SGP and I haven't noticed the screen responsiveness to lower. The only thing that is bad about it is that it gets dirtier faster and seems to reflect light a bit more. I also don't have to press any harder then I had to without the protector, as soon as I touch it (actually a little bit before ) the touch is recognised. If you feel your screen responsiveness diminishes, you can also applications to raise the "touchscreen sensitivity".
Thanks for the feedback mate, once again
I might think about getting one of those "Armor" screen protectors. Hopefully when sharing the tablet among family or friends I can atleast be assured the tablet is safe.
Diamond ring would do it if someone brushed the screen with back of their hand
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Misledz said:
I'd love to put on a screen protector but it kinda kills the whole idea of "Gorilla Glass" .
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Disagree, Mate, I have a Zagg protector and a case as well. For the expense of a 32GB 10.1, I'm not about to risk damage. Other poster is right: it is made of glass afterall not gorillas.
Also, like another thing best kept covered; there's very little loss of sensitivity when its covered.
Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
Cheers lads!
Im usually not a fan of screen protectors on my phones but when i bought my tab at best buy they had the zagg invisibleshield for $15. It wasnt easy to put on and it looked pretty bad at first but once it dried out It pretty much disappeared. I dont even notice it anymore. A 10" screen is bound to get scratched up. Im glad i did it.
I got a scratch on my screen, and It had to be a scratch because I couldn't wipe it off even with a few different cleaners.
A few months later - the scratch is gone!!!
Yes, I'm saying it healed itself. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I have a scratch that just appeared on my Tab... I am the only one who uses it, and I keep it in a cover, didnt put the screen just to get mad, ordered one today..., 1 question: is it realy Gorila GLASS?, I dont think so!
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Having a screen protector does defeat the purpose of the gorilla glass. However, I would rather have that extra measure of protection and just replace the screen protector every few months.
I wonder how much does a replacement screen cost from the local showrooms?
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I wonder how much does a replacement screen cost from the local showrooms?
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I am waiting for a price quote I asked for, when I get it I'll share it. It will be for the Portuguese market but anyways a reference price...
i use a screen 'protector' but really it is more of an anti glare filter
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Having a screen protector does defeat the purpose of the gorilla glass. However, I would rather have that extra measure of protection and just replace the screen protector every few months.
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i use a screen 'protector' but really it is more of an anti glare filter
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That as well
Used to have an invisibleSheild on an older phone but I hated the feel of the thing. Feels rubery, very unpleaseant!
I don't know for other brands but I'd realy go for something that repels the finger prints... I always have to clean the thing :|
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Used to have an invisibleSheild on an older phone but I hated the feel of the thing. Feels rubery, very unpleaseant!
I don't know for other brands but I'd realy go for something that repels the finger prints... I always have to clean the thing :|
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I was about to say that, as good as it protects, it's more like a condom on the phone, a dry one.
What ticks me off about it is when you sweat through your jeans the whole screen becomes a mess and the phone (The one I had it on) could barely read my touch.
Hi all,
I wonder if anybody has managed to get cracked screen replaced under warranty as its supposed to be this all singing all dancing wonderfully strong glass.
I have never managed to crack a screen before and I now have a hairline fracture across the top.
Surely they overegging their products if there are all these cracked screens.
Also has anybody seen these screens for the wonderful £60 mentioned in the repairing tutorial they all seem to be nearer £130 now.
£130 will be the price of a s/h SG2 when the SG3 comes out prob. I might just wait a bit.
Thanks
Dred.
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Surely they overegging their products if there are all these cracked screens.
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how many cracked screens are there
"They" are overegging nothing. Gorilla glass is excellent - look at all the smashed iphone screens around.
However, it's not indestructable. It's marketed as "scratch resistant" - not scratch proof and not crack proof. Enough pressure on the screen - any screen -and it will crack, as you have discovered. As indeed did I, but expected nothing else after a tram ran over my old SGS2...
I got a replacement via my insurance. Didn't bother checking to see if it was covered by warranty, because in my case I didn't have a leg to stand on.
Can't see anyone replacing a broken screen unde warranty, but different suppliers=different rules.
FWIW, my PMP (Cowon S9) with Gorilla glass has add umpteen drops and all other sorts of no-nos - sand, keys, you name it. Three years on, not a mark on it.
Gorilla glass is never advertised as crack proof, its scratch resistance.
Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but same strength.
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There must be quite a few judging by tutorials and replacement glasses and whole lcds on ebay. There is a whole thread on Droids and Gorilla glass cracks.
B3311 said:
"They" are overegging nothing. Gorilla glass is excellent - look at all the smashed iphone screens around.
However, it's not indestructable. It's marketed as "scratch resistant" - not scratch proof and not crack proof. Enough pressure on the screen - any screen -and it will crack, as you have discovered. As indeed did I, but expected nothing else after a tram ran over my old SGS2...
I got a replacement via my insurance. Didn't bother checking to see if it was covered by warranty, because in my case I didn't have a leg to stand on.
Can't see anyone replacing a broken screen unde warranty, but different suppliers=different rules.
FWIW, my PMP (Cowon S9) with Gorilla glass has add umpteen drops and all other sorts of no-nos - sand, keys, you name it. Three years on, not a mark on it.
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Yeah but my desire got dropped and just in general use nothing happened and nor did any of my other phones.
This sg2 gets dropped and its toast. I have had an XDA1 which has faired better than this.
I don't expect indestructable, I wasn't blending it
They advertise it as tough glass, which I think it isn't particularly. My screen is scratched, and I make sure no keys or coins etc.. go in the same pocket.
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There must be quite a few judging by tutorials and replacement glasses and whole lcds on ebay. There is a whole thread on Droids and Gorilla glass cracks.
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Yeah, right..... 20 million sold, therefore ebay and some threads=loads cracked.
Don't slag off the glass - you cracked your phone, live with it. You're not the first and you won't be the last. £130 is a bargain.... over £230 where I live
Out of curiosity, how did you crack it?
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Yeah but my desire got dropped and just in general use nothing happened and nor did any of my other phones.
This sg2 gets dropped and its toast. I have had an XDA1 which has faired better than this.
I don't expect indestructable, I wasn't blending it
They advertise it as tough glass, which I think it isn't particularly. My screen is scratched, and I make sure no keys or coins etc.. go in the same pocket.
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The factors of height, landing surface and angle the phone make contact with the landing surface are very important on whether your phone's screen survives a drop. The least important factor is the material the screen is made from.
You will hear stories of the same brand of phone being dropped from a couple of centimetres to a couple of metres onto sufaces from carpet to concrete. Plenty have survived what would normally be considered a dead cert to smash the screen and didn't.
It is tough glass, but remember that it is glass and glass breaks.
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Yeah, right..... 20 million sold, therefore ebay and some threads=loads cracked.
Don't slag off the glass - you cracked your phone, live with it. You're not the first and you won't be the last. £130 is a bargain.... over £230 where I live
Out of curiosity, how did you crack it?
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Thank you for your kind help. I have no choice but to replace it. I wanted to gauge the extent of this cracking whilst minor droppage occurs.
I have friends taking the p1ss because I have managed to break "really strong gorilla glass".
I was getting my son out of the car and he pulled on the headphones and it dropped from waist height and has a hairline crack on the glass.
The extent of the problems looked fairly large after bothering to google for it. I know I shouldn't feed the troll but what research have you done in to it. I expect none. Apart from yours haven't broken - wow you must be a scientist.
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The factors of height, landing surface and angle the phone make contact with the landing surface are very important on whether your phone's screen survives a drop. The least important factor is the material the screen is made from.
You will hear stories of the same brand of phone being dropped from a couple of centimetres to a couple of metres onto sufaces from carpet to concrete. Plenty have survived what would normally be considered a dead cert to smash the screen and didn't.
It is tough glass, but remember that it is glass and glass breaks.
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This is why I am asking really. If you blow on it and it breaks then I want to know from a warranty perspective. The material on the SG2 might be particularly brittle or on a certain batch.
Thanks for the replies all
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Thank you for your kind help. I have no choice but to replace it. I wanted to gauge the extent of this cracking whilst minor droppage occurs.
I have friends taking the p1ss because I have managed to break "really strong gorilla glass".
I was getting my son out of the car and he pulled on the headphones and it dropped from waist height and has a hairline crack on the glass.
The extent of the problems looked fairly large after bothering to google for it. I know I shouldn't feed the troll but what research have you done in to it. I expect none. Apart from yours haven't broken - wow you must be a scientist.
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Doctor, actually, but I also lecture in Physiology and some Biochem - scientific enough? Or would you prefer my A level in Physics? Both disqualify me from glass stress mechanisms....
Your sarcasm, hilarious as it is, is sadly pointless. And as I stated clearly, I did smash the screen on a previous device.
As fred_up states, there are many factors to account for when you drop your phone. My brother dropped his SGS1 from about 15 cm height. But it landed on the corner of a kerbstone, so it cracked bigtime. I've dropped mine flat onto gravel from about 2m up - screen was spotless, some chips on the "chrome".
Horses for courses. You were unlucky. Tried your insurance?
I know you must be getting annoyed now but, is it a crack, or a deep scratch
I got two nice scratches near the speaker Courtesy mom and wife and their earrings, so now I put on
Protective shield
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i neva go wiv ads ,the drop videos showing "wooow the screens really gr8"
m8 if the thing has to break then it will...its jus sometimes we get lucky,so get it replaced instead of reading more posts........goood luck
atifsh said:
I know you must be getting annoyed now but, is it a crack, or a deep scratch
I got two nice scratches near the speaker Courtesy mom and wife and their earrings, so now I put on
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Hairline fracture underneath the surface is how I would describe it.
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i neva go wiv ads ,the drop videos showing "wooow the screens really gr8"
m8 if the thing has to break then it will...its jus sometimes we get lucky,so get it replaced instead of reading more posts........goood luck
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Too true I suppose. Just that if someone advertises something then one has a right to be annoyed. I would be far less annoyed if it had a glass screen on it and not a "corning gorilla glass" screen.
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Doctor, actually, but I also lecture in Physiology and some Biochem - scientific enough? Or would you prefer my A level in Physics? Both disqualify me from glass stress mechanisms....
Your sarcasm, hilarious as it is, is sadly pointless. And as I stated clearly, I did smash the screen on a previous device.
As fred_up states, there are many factors to account for when you drop your phone. My brother dropped his SGS1 from about 15 cm height. But it landed on the corner of a kerbstone, so it cracked bigtime. I've dropped mine flat onto gravel from about 2m up - screen was spotless, some chips on the "chrome".
Horses for courses. You were unlucky. Tried your insurance?
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I was only pointing out the non-scientific nature of both of our methods - Doc
Anyway - the bleedin excess would be more than its worth.
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I was only pointing out the non-scientific nature of both of our methods - Doc
Anyway - the bleedin excess would be more than its worth.
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Depends - give insurance companies enough grief, be strong and do not give an inch, and they'll pay to be rid of the hassle
I'm good at that - probably why my car is now insured in my wife's name - they wised up.....
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Depends - give insurance companies enough grief, be strong and do not give an inch, and they'll pay to be rid of the hassle
I'm good at that - probably why my car is now insured in my wife's name - they wised up.....
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I irritate enough people here. Think how irritating I can be when there's money at stake. I'm a Tyke...
Lets just say you were unluckly that your screen cracked, as i and many people have been luckly, but for your warranty covering a cracked screen you can only but ask. I personaly think that it wont be covered, as the idea is to cover faults by samsung not your bad luck.
I couldn't help notice yor argument started to delve into science.
Glass is a brittle material and so it can take many fatal blows without showing any signs of damage. But one day a minor impact which would usually have no effect on a brand new piece will be the straw the broke the camel's back. This is because the fatal blows which it suffered previously will have left considerable damage only visible on a microscopic level. This explains why one guy can have his phone fall down the stairs many times and survive but have the screen break because "he blew on it" as Dredwaker put it.
Laboratory tests and can ensure that manufacturing is consistent but real-life will throw in many unexpected variables and odds.
Mech. Engineering student, I know some stuff but not everything
AFAIK, the warranty does not cover physical damages to the phone.
No manufacturer services a device with physical damages on warranty terms, unless resistance to physical stress is in product requirements.
But one day a minor impact which would usually have no effect on a brand new piece will be the straw the broke the camel's back.
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Fractures have tendency to propagate on glass. Any stress, including usual usage in this case, touching, vibration, etc. will propagate it further.
I remember cracking my LCD screen on laptop. At first it was barely a point, I did not touch the screen or apply any pressure, but only from opening-closing the lid+vibration, in a few days almost the whole screen was black.
It's only been a month since I bought my S3. I have 5-6 very tiny scratches on my screen which are easily visible in bright light. :crying:
It's like a group of scratches at the bottom center of my screen. I am still trying to figure out how I got them. I can assure you that I am not responsible for these scratches. :crying:
I have treated my phone with respect and yet it has developed these scratches. I have never dropped my phone. I have never kept it face-down on any surface.
The funny part is that the back cover on the Samsung Galaxy S3 sucks as well. Its got tiny scratches all over even though I have never ever kept the phone on any surface without keeping a micro-fiber cloth under the phone!
The only possible explanation for the scratches can be dust. Can I claim warranty on the phone since the screen is supposed to be scratch resistant?
I am super sad now
A few fine sand particles against the glass in a pocket will do more than two sets of keys.
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Read the waranty card, such normal wear and tear are not covered in the waratnty....
are you allergic to a screen protector and a back cover??
Normal glass won't even scratch if you take a key to it. Sand particles are what gets you.
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If you can't put a screen protector on a $700 phone then you should reconsider the decision of owning a smartphone.
Tip: get a back tpu case as well.
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Read the waranty card, such normal wear and tear are not covered in the waratnty....
are you allergic to a screen protector and a back cover??
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I am not allergic to either. The problem is that I ordered the TRIDEA ALIKE case on 8th June from ebay but there were some manufacturing problems and the case delivery got delayed. It should be here in a weeks time. There are no decent screen protectors available in the local market. The ones that are available on ebay will take 2 weeks to be delivered to my country. With the case still not delivered, I am still contemplating about ordering a screen protector online or waiting for it to hit the stores.
f you can't put a screen protector on a $700 phone then you should reconsider the decision of owning a smartphone.
Tip: get a back tpu case as well.
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No one in their right senses would think of not putting a screen protector on a costly phone. Like I said, I was waiting for some screen protectors to hit the local markets since I already had a bad experience with shopping for a case online. I ordered it a month back and it's still not here.
I heard that the Galaxy s3 comes with an additional coating that repels oil. Could it be possible that I have only scratched this coating and not the actual glass. If yes, how can I tell the difference?
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No one in their right senses would think of not putting a screen protector on a costly phone.
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Speak for yourself sunshine. My senses are where they should be, and I never have nor never will use a screen protector.
As posted elsewhere, got my first scratch last week, sand was the culprit, my fault though. Doesn't worry me. Sure I'll get a few more. Such is life.
Speak for yourself sunshine
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Sorry if I have offended you. :angel:
Looks like you have a lot of phones to not be worried about the scratches
@ white_android, Your not getting any Sympathy from me and besides, it takes a certain kind of individual with your type of courage to advertise their COMPLETE STUPIDITY !
Case in point !
No where in your first post did you say that you took precautions to protect your $500+ high tech toy ! It almost sounds like your blaming Samsung for your stupidity and you wanted support from other users here !
ISN'T HAPPENING DUDE !
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What makes you think I am stupid? I have had 2 phones with gorilla glass before I got my s3 and none of them got a single scratch on them ever. I started using a screen protector when my phones were a couple of months old since its human nature to not care much about old things.
I was waiting for a good screen protector to be available in the local stores because I only just got the phone and thought It was okay to wait for sometime before I get a screen protector. I had no idea the S3 screen was going to be this delicate.
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It's only been a month since I bought my S3. I have 5-6 very tiny scratches on my screen which are easily visible in bright light. :crying:
It's like a group of scratches at the bottom center of my screen. I am still trying to figure out how I got them. I can assure you that I am not responsible for these scratches. :crying:
I have treated my phone with respect and yet it has developed these scratches. I have never dropped my phone. I have never kept it face-down on any surface.
The funny part is that the back cover on the Samsung Galaxy S3 sucks as well. Its got tiny scratches all over even though I have never ever kept the phone on any surface without keeping a micro-fiber cloth under the phone!
The only possible explanation for the scratches can be dust. Can I claim warranty on the phone since the screen is supposed to be scratch resistant?
I am super sad now
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If I was in your situation, I would not use the phone untill I get screen guard.
Every screen gets scratches even if its scratch resistance.
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Scratches don't affect the functionality of the device. Suck it up.
Also, scratch resistant not scratch PROOF.
If I was in your situation, I would not use the phone untill I get screen guard.
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What screen protector do you recommend. Something that I can get quickly and has good quality. I know SGP makes the best ones but are they available in India. Ordering online means having to wait a very long time for the shipping! ;(
Scratches don't affect the functionality of the device. Suck it up.
My first reaction when I saw the scratches was "here we go" with a deep breath! . I am still feeling sad but I hope these are the last scratches I get on this awesome phone.
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Sorry if I have offended you. :angel:
Looks like you have a lot of phones to not be worried about the scratches
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1 SGS1, unscratched. 3 SGS2s, one with small scratch on screen and many chips in bezel, one with totally smashed screen (tram ran over it), one unscratched. 1 SGS3, tiny scratch on screen. 1 Lumia 800, unscratched (unused, to tell the truth).
I can barely see the scratch on the SGS3, it's ca. 3mm long, upper right of screen. And as said, since it was my fault for taking it to a beach, that's even less reason to beat myself up about it.
Screenguards seem to be the way forward for you. I just don't care enough - phone's for using, and I can't be bothered with the hassle of "babysitting" it instead of using it.
Resale value!
I just don't care enough - phone's for using, and I can't be bothered with the hassle of "babysitting" it instead of using it.
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That makes sense. I hate the fact that I have to treat my phone like a living thing. I am only going to do this to get a good resale value on my phone when I decide to upgrade just like i did with my older phones.
Anyway, does anyone have the answer to my question. How can i tell whether i scratched the screen or the coating!
Scratch resistant =/= scratch proof.
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Going on 3 weeks with my S3 and no scratches at all, anywhere. No screen protector or case, have never really liked them. Phone spends the whole day in my pocket or screen side down on my bed side at night and is holding up quite well for now :fingers-crossed:
I find a screen protector is the equivalent of wearing a condom during sex.... .
I don't wear a condom either.... I am married mind.
B3311 said:
Speak for yourself sunshine. My senses are where they should be, and I never have nor never will use a screen protector.
As posted elsewhere, got my first scratch last week, sand was the culprit, my fault though. Doesn't worry me. Sure I'll get a few more. Such is life.
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I agree. I hate screen protectors and it killed me to spend $13 for the Rearth case for this phone lol
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adamhill212 said:
Going on 3 weeks with my S3 and no scratches at all, anywhere. No screen protector or case, have never really liked them. Phone spends the whole day in my pocket or screen side down on my bed side at night and is holding up quite well for now :fingers-crossed:
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In fairness, mine hasn't lasted the last 3 days on the beach.. It was hidden in my bag but sand gets everywhere. A few small scratches, but so be it my phone is staying naked.
I generally don't like using cases on my phones but since I paid so much for my Xperia S I have been using one. I was curious how people who don't use cases on it have had their phone look like. How has the Xperia S survived the day to day normal wear and usage?
i dont have a case, cause i dont want to cover my beautiful XS..hehe..but i have a pouch for my XS.
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i dont have a case, cause i dont want to cover my beautiful XS..hehe..but i have a pouch for my XS.
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What pouch.
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I didn't use a case at first but a porch, and I hit a table with the lower left edge of my s (really soft, I didn't even drop it, I just put it down quickly) and it cracked and the paint peeled of. I drew over it with nail polish but I have been using a hard case ever since PLUS a porch.
And I still get a lot of scratches on the housing where the cut outs of my case are (mostly around the USB and headphone plugs, even though I treat my phone really carefully)
I wouldn't recommend using the phone without a case, it scratches way too easy.
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Man this phone body is like a tin can
Me myself didn't like a case as well
I usually put my phone in the side pocket alongside with headset and it scratched. Hopefully i have it black so the scratch is not really visible.
And do not ever put your phone in the same pocket with your car keys. In my own experience it can dent your phone pretty bad
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What pouch.
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a cotton pouch (black), as protection of my XS when my phone is in my pocket.
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Man this phone body is like a tin can
Me myself didn't like a case as well
I usually put my phone in the side pocket alongside with headset and it scratched. Hopefully i have it black so the scratch is not really visible.
And do not ever put your phone in the same pocket with your car keys. In my own experience it can dent your phone pretty bad
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Lucky you, I have the white version, every scratch is visible :/
Nail polish all the way... In a year my complete phone will be painted in nail polish
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I got a white Sony Xperia S a couple of days after the release. Never used any cases, I really hate 'em unless they add functionality.
I dropped my Xperia S only once on tiles, but it wasn't a very high drop. You can only see the scuffs if you look for them. They're really tiny.
Also, the only other scratch I have on my Xperia S is just my fault. I tried putting it in a tin case-like thing I had on a tripod which I had made for a smaller phone, but what I didn't realise was that the edges were very sharp.
My conclusion: Unless you like dropping your phone on the floor or scratch it on purpose with very sharp items, the Xperia S probably won't have any scratches at all. Even in white. The screen too is fine and the Sony (Ericsson) logo on the back isn't scratched either.
I've had mine for 5 months. It once dropped from a very low height facing down, so the screen kinda had a "scatter" from the side (volume up height) and the line goes until the very top of the USB port. It is only seeable at certain angles. There are also tiny scratches, but they are on the screen protector, so.... It once dropped from a slightly higher height than the first, but nothing happened.
"What really matters in this world, anyway?"
I am not surprised that the white one has scratch problems. My buddy had a white HTC Hero with teflon coating and it looked pretty bad after a year or so.
My Xperia s has a thin case so the outside is mint. The screen has really minute scratches that all screens get that you can only see in certain light but no biggy. I never rock a screen protector. I would like to go case free but seeing peoples comments it makes me a bit nervous.
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I am not surprised that the white one has scratch problems. My buddy had a white HTC Hero with teflon coating and it looked pretty bad after a year or so.
My Xperia s has a thin case so the outside is mint. The screen has really minute scratches that all screens get that you can only see in certain light but no biggy. I never rock a screen protector. I would like to go case free but seeing peoples comments it makes me a bit nervous.
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Mine is a white one. I don't have a single scratch (none that I can see, at least). And my screen "scratches" are like yours, but they are on the shatter proof that come already applied to the device.
"What really matters in this world, anyway?"
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Mine is a white one. I don't have a single scratch (none that I can see, at least). And my screen "scratches" are like yours, but they are on the shatter proof that come already applied to the device.
"What really matters in this world, anyway?"
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Yeah my screen scatches are literally almost impossible to see. I removed my shatter proof sheet the day I got the phone though.
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I am not surprised that the white one has scratch problems. My buddy had a white HTC Hero with teflon coating and it looked pretty bad after a year or so.
My Xperia s has a thin case so the outside is mint. The screen has really minute scratches that all screens get that you can only see in certain light but no biggy. I never rock a screen protector. I would like to go case free but seeing peoples comments it makes me a bit nervous.
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The Xperia S already has a screen protector on it from the factory. Going case free isn't a problem for me at all
I wouldn't remove this protector though. I read somewhere that it could make capacitive button sensitivity less.
I use some cheap pocket-like condom to keep my sola semi-safe.
Back in 2010 when I just bought a brand new HTC Desire I immediately wanted to protect it. I mean PROTECT IT.
I bought the Krusell Orbiflex thingie (was like uberexpensive) and was pretty happy with it until... after few months I realized that the screen was actually scratched by the case itself!
Then I sent over the HTC to the service point (because of broken camera or something). I repeated the procedure 5 times, so they swapped the unit into a new one.
I was happy and stuff and put the new, shiny device into the same case .
After few weeks my brand new HTC was scratched again in the very same spot beacuse of the case. AGAIN.
Maybe a little bit OT but kind of funny story it was .
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I use some cheap pocket-like condom to keep my sola semi-safe.
Back in 2010 when I just bought a brand new HTC Desire I immediately wanted to protect it. I mean PROTECT IT.
I bought the Krusell Orbiflex thingie (was like uberexpensive) and was pretty happy with it until... after few months I realized that the screen was actually scratched by the case itself!
Then I sent over the HTC to the service point (because of broken camera or something). I repeated the procedure 5 times, so they swapped the unit into a new one.
I was happy and stuff and put the new, shiny device into the same case .
After few weeks my brand new HTC was scratched again in the very same spot beacuse of the case. AGAIN.
Maybe a little bit OT but kind of funny story it was .
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In other words, you can be too careful
Hermantje said:
The Xperia S already has a screen protector on it from the factory. Going case free isn't a problem for me at all
I wouldn't remove this protector though. I read somewhere that it could make capacitive button sensitivity less.
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No removing it makes it more sensitive. Trust me I have done it on 3 different Xperia S phones.
I use a nillkin case, but the top and bottom. Of the phone have so many scratches now. Hence, changed to a tpu Gel case instead.
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wel, I don't really like the screen protector at all and even less a case.
I'm happy with a naked Xperia U, and whenever it get any hard scratches the phone will bet getting old already.
People don't stay with their phones for much longer anyway, so i don't think it's a good thing use cases...
My only scratch is off all places on the glass in the centre of he screen on my s3 after taking it into a repair shop without my case on. Was just glad to have my phone back so let the guy off with the scratch... normally use a otterbox defender case.
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People don't stay with their phones for much longer anyway, so i don't think it's a good thing use cases...
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Resale value.