Damn, GSII Is coming may first, I love the NS but man GSII is a beast, I have the money right now for NS but Im sure GSII will be a LOT.
What do YOU think?
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Hang on..
Nexus S is just another version of the original galaxy
Absolutely, its miles ahead as far as the advancements are concerned.
1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz Dual Core Cortex A9's on the S II
512MB Ram vs 1GB Ram on the S II
4 in SAMOLED vs 4.3 in SAMOLED +
patience, my friend...
Galaxy S 2 is worth waiting for.
I wouldnt mind waiting if I had the money, but I feel like I need to stop switching phones so much, I may go with NS for a year or 2, It has all I need after after all, I dont root or rom so in all honesty I think all that 1gb ram, dual core stuff I wont need, all I do is play music web browse, use phone and use some apps, thats it...I dont see the need to wait and spend even more for things that I dont need, I really need to stop getting phone after phone because some new specs come out, NS has all I need, hopefully it will be like that for a couple years until I really need a new phone rather then want, I know the techies want the latest and greatest but to the average user, they dont care as long as it has the things you need rather then ram, processer etc, I need to start thinking like that rather then drooling over every new phone, its a waste of money.
Just my opinion, hopefully NS can last me.
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I also am not prone to change phones often. My current phone is an HTC Touch Dual I've had for like 4 years.BUT I like to buy the best when I do; which right now happens to be the Galaxy SII. That's why I've preordered already.
In that case, it is better to somewhat future proof your investment by buying the current technology and utilizing it to the fullest.
SGSII will be better for you in the long run.
Samsung Galaxy S2, no doubt about it, lol.
Yea but how much lol? I can get the NS for $560, whats the GSII gonna be? $700?
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We can't tell you for sure until it's announced in each region, but it's definitely worth the wait to find out. You're talking about buying a last gen phone vs a cutting edge phone basically. Do you want to spend $500 and have an already outdated phone, or maybe roughly the same, maybe a little more for a top of the line phone? The Nexus S is a great phone for sure, but this is a fast paced industry and with the dual core CPUs and the new SAMOLED+ screen, I think it's worth the wait and maybe a little more money.
Its a no brainer for me.
SII of course.
Perhaps waiting for a few weeks will give you some clear cut details on the launch and costing.
SGS II without a doubt. The Nexus S is a great phone, but doesn't hold a candle to the SGS II.
Yea get the galaxy s 2 just don't expect any software updated...
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Yea get the galaxy s 2 just don't expect any software updated...
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That is where the phone being not boot-locked and XDA developers come in...and personaly for me this will be the deciding factor as I know how slow both my carrier (A$&$) and Samsung about releasing software updates.rolleyes:
Samsung have been improving with frequence of updates however...at least for some phones...
Nexus S is a cool phone but I could never understand why they castrated some parts off of it.
Updates are nice, yes, but since the phone comes with 2.3, it probably won't be a big deal to me. The wait from 2.1 to 2.2 was horrible because Flash is such a huge addition, but have they said what the killer feature will be past Gingerbread? I doubt it'll be as huge as Flash was.
Went ahead and got the NS, glad I did, I will be happy with it as it is the full google experience, great looking phone, SAmoled, I mean it has everything I need, Im sure the SAmoled+ will be cool but thats the main thing I would want, back when I had the captivate only things I wanted was that ATT would not block apps, a camera flash, and a FFC, now I have it all! What more do I need, perhaps in 1 1/2-2 years I get the Dual Core stuff, but for now Im sure the NS will be perfect for me and my needs.
You have my sincere condolences.
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Updates are nice, yes, but since the phone comes with 2.3, it probably won't be a big deal to me. The wait from 2.1 to 2.2 was horrible because Flash is such a huge addition, but have they said what the killer feature will be past Gingerbread? I doubt it'll be as huge as Flash was.
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You have my sincere condolences.
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+1.
But profit from it though, it's still a great Android Phone.
meh not everyone obsesses over the latest gadgets, I used to but not anymore.
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There has been similar threads, but I'll just go ahead and make a new one.
As my HD2 has came to an untimely demise, I'm currently stuck with my old Nokia E65, and I'm starting to wonder if it's really worth waiting for the Galaxy S II.
I could buy an Optimus 2X or an Xperia Arc today, do you reckon the Galaxy S II is so much better that it's worth being stuck with an aging symbian phone for (at least) a month? What would you guys do?
one-word. super-amoled-plus.
Why do you need sth better for a month? Just wait and get SGS2.
Use your Nokia as most people does - as a simple phone and don't expect too much. I'm sure you can stand without web browsing or quality games for a while. You still can phone anybody, text, make notes and check time ;D
BTW. take it easy, I'm in worse situation. As my E65 died I'm stuck with Nokia 6300 for a month waiting for SGS2. <facepalm>
It's only 1 month - 4 lousy Mondays, a few beers, maybe a read book or good PC game played. Don't think about waiting.
I now what you mean, i sold my iPhone in January, an has being on my backup "N95" forever i fill, first i was waiting for LG OX2,and then i heard about SGS 2, so I will wait until May with a smile.
I now what you mean, i sold my iPhone in January, an has being on my backup "N95" forever i fill, first i was waiting for LG OX2,and then i heard about SGS 2, so I will wait until May with a smile.
Sorry there is a lag.
Somehow your misfortunes makes me feel better. Thanks!
I will wait. It has better be worth it!
I'm waiting... I've been using the same terrible LG Vu for over 2 years now... I really hope this phone comes to USA soon.
I got slapped last time I said this, but RAM. I have been out of contract for 2 months, I can get the X2 or Arc as well. But Arc is single core with 512MB ram, and X2 as great as it seems only has the 512MB as well.
Of the two, the X2 is the winner hands down, and it already has a top notch set of devs working on it. (Look at Paul's work from MODACO)
If you can afford to upgrade in a year, then yes, the X2 is a great phone. I am so tempted by it, but I have spent almost 2 years trying to make the most of the I75000. It was almost enough to put me off Samsung for life.
We do not know what the community will be like for the Galaxy SII, but it has a dual core cpu, great screen, good battery and 1GB of RAM. So with a bit of work , it will be a good phone for a few years.
So time to stop rambling, yes, from someone else going nuts and being tempted left right and centre, wait if you can.
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one-word. super-amoled-plus.
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http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_sgs_6b.jpg
If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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Umm okk....
Three words super amoled plus !!!!!
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Umm okk....
Three words super amoled plus !!!!!
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Take a look at it carefully before you praise it. It totally blurs shadow details on red colors.
you know what, i'll deal with a little bit of red over-saturation for the vibrancy you get with all the other colors of the spectrum. and if you're will to let that push you to slcd... well i just have no words for you.
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If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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+1 i love superamoled only for BLACK colour rest are simply 'dare i say' oversaturated .
Oversaturated is the way I like it
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i'm actually starting to get really itchy, i'm tempted to buy a nexus s for the newest updates - i do want to use it as an app dev phone - but it seems very hit and miss in terms of performance, but then there's touchwiz, which even at 4.0 looks terrible. there's nothing that the s2 does that the ns doesn't really do, only - at this stage - just a bit faster because only honeycomb can handle dual core processors...
plus, it'll be £100 cheaper, which would mean i recouperate my costs faster.
i'm just not sure the s2 would be totally for me.
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i'm actually starting to get really itchy, i'm tempted to buy a nexus s for the newest updates - i do want to use it as an app dev phone - but it seems very hit and miss in terms of performance, but then there's touchwiz, which even at 4.0 looks terrible. there's nothing that the s2 does that the ns doesn't really do, only - at this stage - just a bit faster because only honeycomb can handle dual core processors...
plus, it'll be £100 cheaper, which would mean i recouperate my costs faster.
i'm just not sure the s2 would be totally for me.
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Doesn't really do more ? Nexus S lacks of MicroSD & Flash LED, it should be a standard for a smartphone to have that now...
the nexus s has a flash led. the gs however, does not. no microsd? not an issue for me. 16gb of internal storage is more than enough for me - and really, for anyone.
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the nexus s has a flash led. the gs however, does not. no microsd? not an issue for me. 16gb of internal storage is more than enough for me - and really, for anyone.
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I disagree with you on that point. I have a huge music collection which I access daily. Depending on what I want to listen to, I select. 16 GB is not enough for me.
sure, me too. but i get bored with my music. so i just use internet radio / last.fm.
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I disagree with you on that point. I have a huge music collection which I access daily. Depending on what I want to listen to, I select. 16 GB is not enough for me.
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lol, me three
what's more, I have most music in FLAC
Anyone switch and have any feedback? Im considering an "upgrade" and just looking for some input from anyone who had Vibrant who switched.
Thanks!
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Anyone switch and have any feedback? Im considering an "upgrade" and just looking for some input from anyone who had Vibrant who switched.
Thanks!
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im trying to see if I should wait for the Galaxy S2, GX2, or htc Sensation too.
Sensation and Galaxy S2 both have more Ram the the LG, but the LG is out now...
All 3 use are different duel core processor.
I definitely dont think you should go for the mytouch 4 with the LG out now and others on the way.
trying to decide which of the 3 duel core phones to go for myself.
if you are looking for a phone now, its the LG hands down. If you are willing to wait, then you are in the same boat as me. not sure between the LG, HTC, or Sammy
Ya, the htc is supposed to be out in June or July. But my son's mytouch slide is having issues. So I'm considering upgrading and giving him my phone.
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Switch from the vibrant I'm on the g2x nd lovin it by far the fastest phone I have ever owned. I've owned a lot I'm a phone whore... I'm still going to get the galaxy s 2 when it comes out phones are like pokemon gotta catch em all
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If you can wait ............wait for the S2 the hardware is something to wait for. Over the next 10-15 months all the phones will go through a huge change. All the new phones hardware will have the capacity to run windows 7 (not that they will) but think about it ....the phone I have now has the same power as my windows 2000 computer 7 years ago............ amazing time.........
The vibrant has too much going for it to pay for an upgrade now. Especially in my mind the uncertainty of the AT&T takeover, or as i call it, when we all get screwed.
The g2x is amazing. I want one. But I also know my phone is dang good and only better phones are going to roll out... More GHz and more dual cores.
The next phone with a perfect 4"screen, 1.3+ GHz dual core on a good/cheap network may change my opinion... In the future.
S2 for sure. There is nothing to discuss, and nothing to think about. That is just the way to do it. Period.
S2 has a answered my prayers. I have been waiting for a freakin 4.3 SAMOLED phone to come out. Sammy only had the 4" galaxy S - Vibrant last year with talks of "dual core."
I'm glad that they didn't rush it either- because that would have been a huge liability waiting to happen.
Instead, they listened to our gripes.
1. 32gb memory- on bigger model
2. FFC - badass
3. FLASH!!!!
4. 8mp camera
5. 4.3" Capacitive Touch
6. Super Amoled!!!!!!!!
7. Gorilla glass?
8. External SD support up to 32gb
9. 4g !!!!!
10. GingerBread official.
11. Mod edit: to much info mate...keep it to yourself.
Seriously, it blows anything out of the water that is out there and will be out there in the near future.
Plus, Tmobile is getting is.
I'm going to buy 10 of these just in case zombies attack, then I'll just sit back and relax.
Anyway, /shameless Plug.
you get the picture.
GL with your decision.
A better way to go about this is, do you plan on rooting your new phone and installing custom ROMs? If you you do intend to do that, then i think Samsung has proven they could careless about you or the dev community so long as you buy there product.
We all know HTC shares there source code and there is a herd of diehard HTC fans who will mod the crap out of the Sensation.
I just picked up the G2x yesterday after i seen that LG has already released source code for not only the OS but kernel source code as well, and with cyanogen himself doing the CM7 port to the G2x, it will and should be community supported greatly as well
A thing that sold me on the G2x is that it supports AT&T 3G bands, so if its still my main phone if the merger goes down, it'll be a fully compatible device and i wont need to buy a new one to take advantage of AT&Ts extended coverage
So in the end it really just boils down to:
How long can you wait?
Do you intend to mod your phone?
Galaxy S2 hands down.
It will have a lot of ROMS for it since it has an unlocked Bootloader just like the Vibrant. The HTC Sensation does NOT. It also has lots of memory internal, and a 4.3 Super Amoled PLUS. Everything else you can compare to the HTC Sensation of G2X as all 3 have relatively similar "rest of the phone".
I'm on a g2x lets hope that the galaxy 2 does not have the normal sammy problems like on the vibrant I have a bitter taste for them now
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I just got the G2x.
I'll miss the awesome SAMOLED, but #NeverAgain
-bZj
as you can see from the second post in this thread, I too am trying to decide between gx2, gs2, sensation...
i see tons of people saying the samsung gs2 will be the best thing ever. So yes, Sammy does have awesome hardware (look at our vibrants). But, will it be cheap plastic? and who cares how great the hardware is if the Software sucks balls? (like our vibrants). Yes, our developers are awesome, but they are having to run circles around Sammy's terrible software writing...
I am not saying this is the case with the gs2, as im thinking about it too, just wondering these things...?
Thank you guys so much for your responses. It was exactly what I was looking for, different opinions. I needed to get a phone because two of the phones on my plan were injured. My son chose the "sidekick" not a bad phone, but I tried to talk him out of it. But whatever, it was cheaper.(good for me). I chose the G2x. And I gotta say, WOW! And for those wondering, the screen is just as good. Colors even seem a bit deeper. Quadrants (whatever) but 2200 out the box. The 4g is way better than my 3g. You tube on HD without a stutter. Couldnt pull that off before.
1080 vid recording (I was told) not tested yet.
Fast fast fast processor.
FFC (untested yet)
8mp camera with flash.
Feels much more solid and better made than Vibrant.
Stock against stock. Hands down its better. Guess I will have to wait on dev community for customization results. Maybe I will try to figure out how and root it tonight to remove some bloat.
I will miss my Vibrant (but my sis in law will be happy).
Oh! And I heard today the merge with ATT may not happen. Yay!
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Thank you guys so much for your responses. It was exactly what I was looking for, different opinions. I needed to get a phone because two of the phones on my plan were injured. My son chose the "sidekick" not a bad phone, but I tried to talk him out of it. But whatever, it was cheaper.(good for me). I chose the G2x. And I gotta say, WOW! And for those wondering, the screen is just as good. Colors even seem a bit deeper. Quadrants (whatever) but 2200 out the box. The 4g is way better than my 3g. You tube on HD without a stutter. Couldnt pull that off before.
1080 vid recording (I was told) not tested yet.
Fast fast fast processor.
FFC (untested yet)
8mp camera with flash.
Feels much more solid and better made than Vibrant.
Stock against stock. Hands down its better. Guess I will have to wait on dev community for customization results. Maybe I will try to figure out how and root it tonight to remove some bloat.
I will miss my Vibrant (but my sis in law will be happy).
Oh! And I heard today the merge with ATT may not happen. Yay!
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man i started colecting money for when sgs 2 come out to buy.. and are you sure about the merge not going to happen?? i hope this dont happen
Nope not sure. Just heard from Tmobile.
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as you can see from the second post in this thread, I too am trying to decide between gx2, gs2, sensation...
i see tons of people saying the samsung gs2 will be the best thing ever. So yes, Sammy does have awesome hardware (look at our vibrants). But, will it be cheap plastic? and who cares how great the hardware is if the Software sucks balls? (like our vibrants). Yes, our developers are awesome, but they are having to run circles around Sammy's terrible software writing...
I am not saying this is the case with the gs2, as im thinking about it too, just wondering these things...?
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can anyone comment about the build quality of the Galaxy S2, or if the software/coding/file system will be terrible like it is on the Vibrant?
Is the Galaxy S II officially coming to T-Mobile?
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Is the Galaxy S II officially coming to T-Mobile?
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Unknown. And if it doesn't, it's not going to have AWS/Tmo 3g or 4g support.
Anyone saying S2 are idiots who dont wanna be in the iphone crowd but want an iphone.
Murdered Out Vibrant w/ FFC
Bionix-V 1.3.1 w/ Blackout Theme
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All 3 use are different duel core processor.
trying to decide which of the 3 duel core phones to go for myself.
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Duel.
Does that mean they are fighting?
Hi I am thinking of getting the gs2 to replace my lg g2x which is a kick ass phone but I am bored with it so I want something new. I was going to get the s1 but right before I changed phones the g2x came out and the specs were great. I dont regret it but I still want a Samsung. I just have a few questions first.
Overall how do you guys like your phone? A 5 year old can hack and root the g2x is this phone the same? If not how hard is it to root? What are the chances that this phone will get ICS? And how long do you think you will have to wait? And finally would it be better to wait for the galaxy nexus to come out? Is the galaxy nexus really going to be that much better than this phone? Also have any of you heard if the galaxy nexus is going to be available for TMO. I asked a rep today who said she did not know. But we all know asking the customer service over the phone is like asking my grandfather who hardly knows what a phone is. Any help you guys can be is greatly appreciated. Thanks alot
Charlie
Well it's a definite update from G2X. But if I were you I'd wait a little bit more and get the Nexus Prime. You are already 5 months late to get a GSII, now when you've waited this long why not few more days.
The SGS2 is a great phone and I don't think the galaxy nexus is going to be much better. BUT, I personally would go with the galaxy nexus since it bring the android experience ( I mean no touchwiz) and ICS. Anyway rooting SGS2 is a piece of cake, as is flashing ROMs and stuff so you could easily get CM7 running and get rid of the touchwiz interface.
So the galaxy nexus is coming to tmobile? If it is I am definitly going with it. Like I said a rep over the phone said thy did not know yet. But this close to launch I would tink they would know but thats just my opinion. Thats the other thing I wanted to ask about touchwiz. Is it ok or does it suck. The g2x is vannilla android and thats the way I perfer it. I actually dont really use cm7 not saying it sucks but I didnt even install cm 7 until the recent final relese of 7.1 came out. However I love Eagles blolod based off CM 7 that is by far the best most stable rom I have used to date. Anyway thanks for all your help guys.
How hard is the Galaxy S2 to root? Super easy.
How are the chances for it to get ICS? 100%
How long will it take? Hard to tell, as it depends on when google releases the sources. (Samsung release will have TouchWiz)
Is TouchWiz bad or good? It's not that bad, but I find both, MIUI and CyanogenMod, better. But that is just my opinion.
Is it better to wait for the Galaxy Nexus? Well I had the chance to give away my Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus once it comes out, but I didn't. I must admit that the screen is damn impressive, but no micro-SD-slot is an absolute no-go for me.
Will the Galaxy Nexus be much better than the Galaxy S2? Define better. For watching movies? Yes. For playing games? I highly doubt that, as it got a weaker GPU and has a much higher resolution. Both factors have a negative impact on the performance. However, keep in mind that the Galaxy Nexus will set the standard for this "generation" of Android phones, so it doesn't really matter which one you get. Both are amazing.
I hope this helps you with your decision.
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wow I must have missed that no microsd card slot? I have not had a phone that didnt have one for over 10 years at this point. No SD card slot what? How much on board storage does it have Afew gigs? I mean I have a 16 gig in now and it is almost maxed out and easily could be I have to cut down on what I carry. I need 32 gigs I guess that they are pushing their google music cloud storage and google docs and such. Oh well thanks for the heads up.
As far as I know there are two versions. One with 16 and one with 32 gigabytes. For me 16 aren't enough and 32 too expensive. Besides that, I don't know if I might need even more in future. Therefore lacking the possibility to upgrade if it becomes necessary is a no-go for me. The screen is the only real argument that speaks for the Nexus. I can wait for ICS...
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Yes it has no sd card slot. I believe it comes in 16/32gb, can't remember. Well if you really want an HD screen you could wait till the sgs 2 HD LTE comes out for south korea and have it shipped down here. If not, the sgs 2 is all good.
Personally I don't even like the nexus prime, well the pricing at least. They want us to pay $300+ for a HD screen? Wow... Plus if the GPU it uses is a sgx 540 then that's an even more of a downgrade like the 8mp-5mp camera.
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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Because it was used that way by advertisers just like having high cpu frequencies is right now. Why'd you think the s2 got pumped to 1.2 just before launch. But still you are right.
But on the matter, I have a s2 and it is an amazing phone. I don't think you will regret it if you'd bought it. But personally I'd go for the gn but it is mostly based on looks. Although I have never seen one.
ICS will take some time but if you want it as soon as possible the nexus is the way to go. And no TW. It works and it has some cool features but 75% of it is useless to me.
the SGS2 I9100 (this forum) doesn't work on T-Mobile US. I believe you're looking for this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1329
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Because it was used that way by advertisers just like having high cpu frequencies is right now. Why'd you think the s2 got pumped to 1.2 just before launch. But still you are right.
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Well you're right. I even underclocked my Galaxy S2 to 800 mhz. It still gets amazing scores thanks to being a dual-core, having an amazing GPU and running MIUI. But now I can play much longer.
I guess I just thought that the people here on xda were smart enough to know, but forgot about the fact that this site has so many different users.
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Well you're right. I even underclocked my Galaxy S2 to 800 mhz. It still gets amazing scores thanks to being a dual-core, having an amazing GPU and running MIUI. But now I can play much longer.
I guess I just thought that the people here on xda were smart enough to know, but forgot about the fact that this site has so many different users.
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Well I probably count as one of those many other peeps
Just here to use others creations. Might pick up programming though the more I learn here the more I find these little things nobody cares about.
Well, learning by doing is how I learned what I can today (besides of school). Right now I want to start with developing for Android, but I hate Java and monoDroid is too expensive for someone who only wants to develop apps for personal use.
Wow, got quite off-topic here...
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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I am aware that megapixels mean do not give the actual performance. However in the case of mobile phones and chips, it is highly unlikely samsung will produce or place a 5mp camera better than the 8mp camera found on the sgs 2. This is a mobile camera sensor, there is only so much you can do with it. Aside from lens, etc.
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I am aware that megapixels mean do not give the actual performance. However in the case of mobile phones and chips, it is highly unlikely samsung will produce or place a 5mp camera better than the 8mp camera found on the sgs 2. This is a mobile camera sensor, there is only so much you can do with it. Aside from lens, etc.
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You forget that there might be some "new technology" that improves the camera. Besides that, the integration of the camera into the OS is also very important and ICS should give the Galaxy Nexus a fair advantage in that point. At least until the Galaxy S2 gets ICS.
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Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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TeamKilo said:
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.
I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
The Nexus isn't an upgrade from the S2, it's a sidegrade at best (and possibly even a downgrade depending on what's important to you in a smart phone).
I've been having the same trouble . It just seems like the SGS3 is a better choice. Also the SGN isn't LTE and the SGS3 is.
According to your question it's undoubtedly the Samsung galaxy S3
but on the other hand if you are a pure android fan and want fast updates from google then it's definitely the Galaxy Nexus...
I would say that the SGS3 would be the better one unless you want pure Android.
i would say wait for the next nexus phone with lte capabilities..that's gonna be my next smartphone maybe, want pure android not pure bloatware from carriers and delayed updates
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Nexus for sure
Jelly Bean makes it feel like a whole new phone, I am probably going to order mine next Week.
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I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
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As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
rich.x87 said:
As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
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The at&t s3 only has 2 cores
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I'm waiting for the next batch of phones with a new SoC.
The only thing I want from the SGSIII is that screen.
I would say look at reviews of both and see which fits your needs and then make a decision. No one can make this decision for u
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IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
Wait for the Next Nexus that will hopefully come out in the fall/winter season.
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That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
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That's what I'm edging towards with my upgrade. I was considering selling my SGSII and buying the GNex in order to have the upgrade available for the next batch of phones (Krait Quads) or just wait until then with my SGSII although I would be able to sell if for much less at that time.
SGSII is such a great phone but seeing the SGSIII, that screen is just making me so tempted to upgrade. I'm a sucker for bigger screens with better res. Someone smack the temptation out of me!
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I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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Well... Give your daughter the SGS2 and get a SGS3 or One X. And you'll have the extra upgrade to get any of the phones coming later this year.
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Now when you say s3, att crap or real, int s3? Because if att one, id say stick to s2 or maybe Note.
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IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
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Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
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Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
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Nexus updates except for Verizon and sprint do not go through any carrier
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