I have an opinion question
These are my wants
I want the ability to disable Sense UI should I get tired of it.
I want to be able to use wireless tethering
I want to stay mostly stock otherwise and maintain absolute stability
I'm not new to flashing I have an at*t captivate that I've flashed hundreds of times
but this device just doesn't seem to need it as badly.
My main question is this, based on the current root method is their a possibility of the upcoming gingerbread update killing the root method? and bootloader unlock. I'm somewhat inclined to wait until gingerbread comes out before rooting the phone since it's coming soon, but I don't want to wait to long and lose the ability to root / install custom roms if I want.
do it and get it over with...there's no downside. everything you want can be attained with root..
when gingerbread comes ota it will be available for root users the same day anyhow.
movielover76 said:
I have an opinion question
These are my wants
I want the ability to disable Sense UI should I get tired of it.
I want to be able to use wireless tethering
I want to stay mostly stock otherwise and maintain absolute stability
I'm not new to flashing I have an at*t captivate that I've flashed hundreds of times
but this device just doesn't seem to need it as badly.
My main question is this, based on the current root method is their a possibility of the upcoming gingerbread update killing the root method? and bootloader unlock. I'm somewhat inclined to wait until gingerbread comes out before rooting the phone since it's coming soon, but I don't want to wait to long and lose the ability to root / install custom roms if I want.
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I'd say go ahead and root. The biggest benefit to me is uninstalling Verizon's bloatware. Plus, CM7 will be rolling out for the TB eventually. In the meantime, Das Bamf can fill in; there's a de-Sense script if you get tired of Sense. Anyways, I don't think the GB update will really make a huge difference; at least not if it's masked by Sense anyway. (Sorry, my bias against the HTC "People" app is shining through —the number one thing I have against Sense.)
+1 for root now
Sent from my Perfect Storm 1.2 Tbolt
"People" app is the worst but google gesture search has eliminated my need for it. at least i never have to see it now.
Rooted
Don't know why I even asked lol
I knew I'd do it eventually , rooted and installed the basic debloat rom
phone almost feels lighter, and I'm conforted seeing clockwork recovery flash a rom
lol
def root!
i see you've already done the deed, but most likely tbolt gingerbread will be available here for rooted users before it goes ota
If you root using the Permroot Bootloader guide in the development thread can you then use the unroot guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
to remove the permRoot? Just curious because I am going was thinking of Perm rooting a coworkers phone but since it is a business paid phone I need to be able to unroot it if it ever had to be sent in for repair or an upgrade.
I rooted my phone for the first time and i saw an immediate increase in battery life when using the undervolted kernels so
+1 for rooting.
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I am running stock samsung firmware on the T-Mobile Vibrant.
I had been holding off on rooting/rom-ming it because i was afraid of bricking.
I think i want to root now for 2.2, and have been going over the forums.
However, I need a method of rooting which will also support my upgrading to a 2.3 rom later on when it is released. Because according to what i have read, the safest way to get to 2.3 would be to to go back to a stock 2.1 and then repeat whatever steps are given.
TL;DR: I need an easy point which gets me to Froyo right now which will aslo get me to Honeycomb later without too much brickage chances and complications. Thanks
You can root keeping the stock rom and still receive the OTA updates
Sent from my Galaxy S using Tapatalk
There is a ton of info on this site to assist IF you want to install a custom ROM. There is a great video that shows you a lot of what you need to do to be able to install the ROM. Take a look around and read read read. It is a fairly simple task and I have tried to brick my phone and ODIN has always come to the rescue!http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821468
I have never seen a clear answer on this question. What exactly will prevent us from running an official update on our phones. When LG releases the official gingerbread update, what will prevent us from doing that?
1) Rooting.
2) OCing/tweaking/hardware acceleration.
3) Installing custom roms.
If we have only rooted can we update, or would we somehow need to flash our phones back to stock settings? I suppose the development community will take the official LG gingerbread rom, tweak it a bit, and release it for us to use with our rooted and OC'd phones, so maybe it's not a big deal?
Any advice?
I think this is a good thread to sticky so people know this info, since i've never seen it posted anywhere else, for any other phones.
Nothing will prevent you to update. It's your choice.
Don't see the point to stick this.
Cheers
Zecanilis said:
Nothing will prevent you to update. It's your choice.
Don't see the point to stick this.
Cheers
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So if I have my LG Optimus T rooted, and have a rom installed like cyanogenmod, I can then just download and installed the official 2.3 upgrade from LG/Tmobile?
Yes.
Cheers
Ok then cheers!
how on earth were you able to put CyanogenMod on your phone?
I just thinking about same!
I've never tried to install a stock rom, and with the HTC magic I had read people talking about not being able to install the stock rogers rom without a lot of trouble.
I also heard some issues with certain phones having OTA updates and conflicting with rooted phones.
I just wanted to make sure this was ok. I have cyanogenmod on my HTC magic, sorry for the confusion, so I just used that name for a generic rom. I just meant in general if you can update a hacked/rooted phone without it locking up.
Jailbroken ipod touches and phones cannot be updated using the stock updates that are released over itunes, you have to do a factory reset before going and installing the official updates.
thesmoth said:
I've never tried to install a stock rom, and with the HTC magic I had read people talking about not being able to install the stock rogers rom without a lot of trouble.
I also heard some issues with certain phones having OTA updates and conflicting with rooted phones.
I just wanted to make sure this was ok. I have cyanogenmod on my HTC magic, sorry for the confusion, so I just used that name for a generic rom. I just meant in general if you can update a hacked/rooted phone without it locking up.
Jailbroken ipod touches and phones cannot be updated using the stock updates that are released over itunes, you have to do a factory reset before going and installing the official updates.
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In this case - Custom ROMs - HTC now sucks. HTC still trying disable for their users installation of custom ROMs even if many people just love this possibilities.
LG (for now) doesn't do that.
The_ERROR said:
In this case - Custom ROMs - HTC now sucks. HTC still trying disable for their users installation of custom ROMs even if many people just love this possibilities.
LG (for now) doesn't do that.
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Idk where you got this from... especially when hTC is one of the few companies still posting info on how to fix your phone after you root it, also if you are friends with them on facebook they make posts about leaked roms and they say they dont recommend installing but they still show you where its at. Motorola did try to make it impossible to root the droid 2/x/pro but ppl found a way around that, i believe it was koush.
I don't believe any manufacturer spends a great deal of time trying to prevent root, now carriers like sprint and verizon, yes. They don't want you doing wireless tether and things like that.
I have this from root.cz but it is in czech language.
They talking about problems of rooting and updating of system on new HTCs phones, like for example Tatoo. They have HW lock on their NAND ROM, so getting of root is not as simple as was before and so on.
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
Hey guys, Im completely new to rooting and im getting a rezound in a couple days and i just had a few simple questions that i couldnt find the answers too else where.
1. If I root my rezound will i still be able to receive all the regular updates like the verizon updates and upcoming OS updates? If not what can i do to get those?(Correct me if im wrong but I would assume that i would have to reverse my root somehow if the answer was no but im not sure how to do that)
2. If i root do i have to install a ROM?(Note:Im planning to remove htc sense as soon as i root and install a new launcher...idk if that has anything to do with having to install a ROM but i figured i should ask)
if you plan to stay on the original rom after you root, im pretty sure that you will be able to recieve the actual ota when its released. but you say that you plan to delete a lot of htc stuff (im assuming bloatware and things like that)...i would HIGHLY recommend just flashing a rom with all of that done for you. unless you know what youre doing, removing htc stuff by yourself can be detrimental to your phone and cause it to not work as it should. im currently running cleanrom 4.1 and its incredible. flashing a rom would be the best way to go
hope this helped.
yes that help, thanks. so if i were to use cleanrom 4.1 and i wanted to get the official ICS update when it released, what would have to do to be able to install it?
Forgive me for being a noob but I am going to attempt my first post I usually just read but feel I may be able to give a quality answer. SO, If you make a nandroid backup before flashing any rom's you will be able to revert back to stock at any time. You can do this via a custom recovery. In order to get an OTA, like the ICS one that is coming soon, you will have to reload your stock rom. Simply put, you cannot get an OTA with a custom rom. If you want a custom rom now and an OTA update later, make a backup and revert back to it when the OTA you want is released. Hope this helps!
One thing that nobody seems to ever mention is do NOT do anything to your phone for the first 30 days because you want to make sure you have a solid phone.
If your phone is constantly malfunctioning because of a problem with the phone, but you have already rooted your phone and flashed a new ROM, then you're going to be nothing but frustrated because you will think it's the ROM, or perhaps something you did when rooting the phone.
If you have a problem within the first 30 days and you have not rooted or flashed a new ROM all you do is walk in to Verizon, tell them the phone is brand new, but having issues with [insert problem here] and you get a brand new phone with all your info transfered for free, and another 30 days to make sure your replacement is not defective as well.
Sent from the resounding Rezound
very good tips! thanks guys, your answers are highly appreciated!
Aaronmc
What device are you coming from? I went from an OG Droid1 to the Rezound and actually love Sense. I think you should try it out first before cutting it out completely. If you wish you can leave the stock Status Bar/SystemUI and install a different launcher as that will disable most of the Sense elements, ~90% of it. As far as OTA's go, unconfirmed whether or not you can update from the recent leak. Make sure you have stock rom available or do not flash the recent leak and choose one of the older roms (Can always RUU back to the stock rom when official hits). I suggest Rezrom 3.1 with the old firmware patch as for me it's been so far the most stable and best battery life ICS rom I have used.
1. No, you won't be able to get OTA updates. But don't worry too much about that. It takes about a week, but the devs will post a manual method or you can use the RUU that usually preceeds the OTA by a day or two.
2. Don't try to disable sense from the stock ROM. It'll be trouble, I tried it for a while back when we only had temp root and it made it buggy and smoked the battery. Flash some ROMs and let the pros get that stuff worked out for you (and throw your favorite dev a few bucks to keep him interested!)
The real consequence of rooting though is the countless late nights flashing yet another new build or theme or whatever. It's kind of addicting.
Hi guys, I was curious, I have been using my HTC One I got from ATT on launch day, Now I want to root it, and I can through HTC Dev but I have a OSX Mac 10.8.3 and I am scared of screwing the device up, First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues? if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory, because I use memory booster and I see lots of stupid stuff that eats away on the RAM, I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device, Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
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Hi guys, I was curious, I have been using my HTC One I got from ATT on launch day, Now I want to root it, and I can through HTC Dev but I have a OSX Mac 10.8.3 and I am scared of screwing the device up, First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues? if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory, because I use memory booster and I see lots of stupid stuff that eats away on the RAM, I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device, Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
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I've had no problems using a Mac in the past with regards to unlocking through HTC Dev.
barkmarkin said:
First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues?
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As you are probably aware, HTC has not released an official 4.2.2 update for the One. Even when they do, you will have to wait for AT&T to release their OTA update for it (since you are using the stock AT&T ROM).
However, once you root your phone you can use a custom ROM instead of the stock AT&T version. Most custom ROMs for the One right now are still based on 4.1.2 and Sense 5 (as they are primarily modifications of the stock HTC sense ROM than entirely new versions), however a few ROMs based on 4.2.2 do exist for the One presently (CyanogenMod, AOKP, etc). Be aware that these ROMs are still early in development and are likely to have some bugs at the moment.
barkmarkin said:
if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory
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You can install a custom ROM with the bloatware pre-removed or you can keep the stock ROM and root your phone, then simply remove the applications you want manually. Personally, I would recommend you take a look at the Android Revolution ROM, as it is very close to the HTC stock ROM, but it also has some useful mods (such as the percentage battery indicator and performance tweaks) and all AT&T bloat removed. You can always reinstall any AT&T apps you miss if they are available on the Play store (and I'm pretty sure all of them are).
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I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device
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If you don't want blinkfeed you have a few options:
Change your launcher to something other than Sense, such as Nova (does not require custom ROM)
Install a custom ROM that does not have blinkfeed (one of the ROMs not based on Sense)
Stay on Sense but switch your default homescreen to something other than blinkfeed/disable all sources for blinkfeed (this doesn't remove blinkfeed but it does effectively the same thing)
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Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
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My understanding is that if you simply unlock your bootloader and root your device, but stay on the stock AT&T ROM you will still be able to get OTA updates, however you may have to re-root your phone after doing so. If you want 4.2.2 available right away when HTC releases it you will likely get it faster here on XDA than you will by waiting around for AT&T to push an OTA update, however. Updating your ROM with a custom recovery tool like ClockworkMod is very simple (just place the zip on your SD card and click "update from zip" in CWM), so personally I don't see the big deal of having OTA unless you aren't near a computer much. Some custom ROMs even support OTA updates for that ROM.