[Q]Will google voice charge me for sms? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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Hey Everyone,
basically on my new thunderbolt i don't have a texting plan but unlimited 4g lte data plan.
I started using google voice and sent out hundreds of texts, using it.
My question is will verizon CHARGE me for these texts? It'll be crudload of money....I read somewhere that they will? or is that just a silly rumor...
i dont make phone calls using google voice either, just use it to send text messages.

I also would like to know the answer to that question, as I want to do the same thing

If you're doing it over data i.e. they aren't being forwarded to your phone via text from google then no Verizon won't charge you.

nope. there is no charge for sms text message sent via google voice.
i have always thought about switching to using GV for texting, but than that would involve telling all of my friends and family to using my GV # for texting and my regular cell # for phone calls. i think that's too much trouble and people would probably end up always sending it to the wrong number.

shock2sys said:
nope. there is no charge for sms text message sent via google voice.
i have always thought about switching to using GV for texting, but than that would involve telling all of my friends and family to using my GV # for texting and my regular cell # for phone calls. i think that's too much trouble and people would probably end up always sending it to the wrong number.
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Yeah, it's nice to know I'm saving so much money by not paying VZW for texting. Luckily for me, when I moved from my iPhone on AT&T to my ThunderBolt on Verizon, I ported my old AT&T number to Google Voice...so now I'll be able to keep my number forever, as long as Google Voice doesn't get axed.

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[Q] free minutes from wifi?

im not sure i asked this correctly on another post..
using tmo prepay plan of 100 miin and 5gb data , and unlimited text,
if i use wifi to call, will it charge my phone minutes?
i get conflicting info from reps.
thanx much
If you are using the wifi calling feature from T-mobile, it uses your minutes. If you're using some sort of voip solution while on wifi it will not. I have the same plan as you and I use GrooveIP for all calls while on wifi. The sound quality is OK. Some people complain about it, but it's definitely usable, and it keeps me under the 100 minutes of the plan. The other thing about it is that it uses google chat to complete the calls, so you have to have a google voice account (free) and people calling you will have to dial your google voice number. This wasn't a big deal for me since I was already using google voice and everyone used that number to reach me anyway, but if all your contacts have your cell #, you'll have to get them to start using a different number to call you. You can set up google voice so that it forwards all calls to your cell and to google chat simultaneously. Then set up GrooveIP to only work when on wifi. This way you'll get your calls whether on wifi or not. It also works on 3g/4g, or is supposed to. I didn't need to even try as unloading the calls when on wifi keeps me well under the 100 cell minutes, so I can't tell you about the quality of that.
pcassaro said:
If you are using the wifi calling feature from T-mobile, it uses your minutes. If you're using some sort of voip solution while on wifi it will not. I have the same plan as you and I use GrooveIP for all calls while on wifi. The sound quality is OK. Some people complain about it, but it's definitely usable, and it keeps me under the 100 minutes of the plan. The other thing about it is that it uses google chat to complete the calls, so you have to have a google voice account (free) and people calling you will have to dial your google voice number. This wasn't a big deal for me since I was already using google voice and everyone used that number to reach me anyway, but if all your contacts have your cell #, you'll have to get them to start using a different number to call you. You can set up google voice so that it forwards all calls to your cell and to google chat simultaneously. Then set up GrooveIP to only work when on wifi. This way you'll get your calls whether on wifi or not. It also works on 3g/4g, or is supposed to. I didn't need to even try as unloading the calls when on wifi keeps me well under the 100 cell minutes, so I can't tell you about the quality of that.
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well tyvm..
i put up thanx for you.. when im ready, i would like to PM you to get all the hoops in line..
i do have google voice , so i have a jump start
amkaos said:
well tyvm..
i put up thanx for you.. when im ready, i would like to PM you to get all the hoops in line..
i do have google voice , so i have a jump start
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glad to help. just let me know if / when you have questions.
That $30 plan is awesome, isn't it!
amkaos said:
im not sure i asked this correctly on another post..
using tmo prepay plan of 100 miin and 5gb data , and unlimited text,
if i use wifi to call, will it charge my phone minutes?
i get conflicting info from reps.
thanx much
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It depends on where the call was started from. If your call originates on wi-fi and you have the feature on your plan then it is free to you. If the call originates on the T-Mobile network and you then go to a wi-fi call it will be using your minutes. YOU MUST have the free wi-fi calling feature on your account as well for it not to use your minutes.

[Q] How do you block texting on the Verizon network?

This isn't specific to the Rezound, but how do you block your phone from receiving or sending text messages. I couldn't find the option on their website, nor any other guide for doing it.
I am going to use Google Voice for my messaging.
Nevermind, you have to call them. Or at least that is what the customer service guy said.
that's basically it yeah. I called long ago to have them disable it. you pretty much should call for any adjustments. I also have it set so if I use up my minutes it automatically declines calls so I don't get charged overages. I have the cheapest 200 minute plan & mainly just use Skype.
You know if you go over you can just call and say you want to bump up to the next plan, no overages, then the following month you can go back down.
Is that the senior plan or whatever? The two hundred minute plan? Will theyvlet me on that because I don't use many voice minutes a month. If u do I could just use groove IP to make a few calls.
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michaelvibe said:
Is that the senior plan or whatever? The two hundred minute plan? Will theyvlet me on that because I don't use many voice minutes a month. If u do I could just use groove IP to make a few calls.
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its a plan that's not officially offered anywhere, you'd have to call Verizon and ask them to put you on it. I didn't know about it myself until I called once asking if I could just have data only onmy plan stating that I don't really use my phone for calls. they wouldn't give me data only(unless it was for a tablet) but then said they had a special 200 minute plan instead which aaved me $10/month so I took that.
Quick ?, I am new to Verizon. If I use google voice for sms does that go against my sms plan? Also If I use skype that wont go against my minutes? One more, If someone calls me on my google voice number does that use my minutes? Thanks for any help. By the way I am loving this phone even more than my epic touch!!!!
lilzone said:
Quick ?, I am new to Verizon. If I use google voice for sms does that go against my sms plan? Also If I use skype that wont go against my minutes? One more, If someone calls me on my google voice number does that use my minutes? Thanks for any help. By the way I am loving this phone even more than my epic touch!!!!
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I'm curious about this too cause I Just went over my 1000 text limit today and still have 5 days left in my cycle. Is like to use Gvoice if I can.
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lilzone said:
Quick ?, I am new to Verizon. If I use google voice for sms does that go against my sms plan? Also If I use skype that wont go against my minutes? One more, If someone calls me on my google voice number does that use my minutes? Thanks for any help. By the way I am loving this phone even more than my epic touch!!!!
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Google Voice uses only data. Your texts with GV do not count against your SMS limit.
Google Voice does not count toward your number of sms.
Skype does not count against your minutess.
Both count against your data.
Google voice forwards to your phone number, so it does use your minutes.
gbmitchell said:
Google Voice does not count toward your number of sms.
Skype does not count against your minutess.
Both count against your data.
Google voice forwards to your phone number, so it does use your minutes.
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Thanks, much appreciated. Now I just need to get that unlimited data and Im all good and still cheaper than sprint with better network.

Mms over wifi

So all of a sudden I can't send Mms over wifi. Seriously??? What the hell. This isn't incredible sense 3 rims anymore god damnit
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Two minutes later it started sending. Wtf really?
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I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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AtLemacks said:
I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
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I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
no, dear sirs, i must correct my statement, for you see i posted in a fit of rage.
lol but really, 3g always turns on when wifi is on to send an MMS. today, it woudln't, even though mobile network was on....then 3 minutes later, it just turned on and started to send lol but i HAD 3g the whole time in my house. i turned off wifi for 1 pic, and it sent...so it was a problem with the phone turning the 3g radio on to send.
jim_0068 said:
Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
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Does any of this mean the messages are not counting towards your texting totals? I don't see why they charge extra for texting, especially the amount that they charge. Does it put a big strain on the network or is a completely different thing or is it just because they can?
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Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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jbh00jh said:
Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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Yeah, I've got two tabs open in Firefox now reading about google voice. I'm worried about the whole phone number thing. I don't want to possibly lose it somehow by porting it over and I also read that I may be breaking my contract with Verizon by porting it and don't want those fees for sure.
I'm new to Verizon as of 11/23 and bought my phone from Amazon. I'll have to see what they say about porting it to google voice. Still looking into it but I think I need the unlimited texting and that's $20/mo which seems excessive to me.
Would it work to test out google voice with their assigned number and forward calls there just to try it out? Would texts forward? I know I'd still get charged for the texting doing it that way. Where do you see/get the texts? Same as usual or is there a different interface?
You will have a location like you would in Gmail, etc. where all the texts would show up. Believe me, a lot of people use this and never have any problems with vzw. Of cource you don't tell vzw you are doing this. If you root your phone you don't tell vzw you did it. My daughter took a rooted phone to a vzw store this weekend to get it activated. It had a sense 3.5 rom on it and they didn't say a thing to her. VZW employees root their phones.
But if you are worried, don't do it.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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Babydoll25 said:
On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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I don't think Big Red distinguishes those minutes from regular airtime minutes. I've made GV calls and seen the minutes show up as calls to my GV number.
lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
jayochs said:
lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
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Sorry jayochs! I blame jbhooh or whatever his name is, he brought it up.
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You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
yackety yack...
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
blah blah blah...
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j/k with the blahs and the yackety
Figured I didn't need to quote the whole thing but it was very useful info.
So yeah, I'm worried about ETF and not having to change my number with all my friends etc...
I'm kind of interested in the voicemail aspects but mostly I'm hoping to save the $20/mo. for texting. It really irks me that any carrier charges for text messages. So if I keep my number with Verizon I would still incur message charges through them, right?
Too bad I didn't know about this before, I could have ported my real number to google voice before I switched to Verizon from AT&T. Seems weird that they tie it to the number and not that I'm still keeping the line active. I'm going to confirm that with them.
google voice callback- not the most convenient method, but free calls. I use it when I get too close to overage.
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j/k with the blahs and the yackety
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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I like your words.
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really annoying, i'm STILL getting issues where 3g will NOT kick in when wifi is on, to recieve or send. it's pissing me off now; this is JUST how the roms acted on the increidble. wtf?

[Q] Can I sent texts/make calls over wifi?

Reprimand me if this has been addressed already and my stupid ass couldn't find it.
I live in an area with no 3G coverage at all. EDGE will suffice for simple things such as sms/mms, phone calls (obviously), and web browsing with Opera Mini.
At my house, we have wifi and my phone is always connected to it and signal strength is always excellent. Since I live in the woods, I get no more than 2 or 3 bars of cell service at any given time, if I'm lucky. One or two is the norm.
Can I make calls over Wifi? Or sent text/picture messages? Perhaps I simply don't understand how it works, but a large percentage of the time when I try to reply to a text, it fails and I have to send it repeatedly. Or if someone sends me a picture of some sort. Takes forever to download, if it works at all. Making a phone call is an exercise in futility. Perhaps it has to be done a certain way.
I'm running the latest version of ShoStock2 at the moment, but these problems happen with AOKP, CM9, and Phone Bricker, amongst others.
I'm sure there's apps that allow you to do that. First Google result shows Talkatone. Idk if there's other similar ones/better ones, but you can start there.
As for text, I'm sure there's an app for that too
I used textfree on my iPod. Can't recall if I couldn't send or receive pics though.
For calls, to my understanding, naturally. No. I'd say get something like Skype where you can do VoIP and do all your calls from there on WiFi, as for texts and MMS you really shouldn't have any problems. as far as I'm concerned, texts should be fine, and mms should download via wifi if you are connected. But if it continues to be a problem you could always get Textfree or Whatsapp and get your friends in on that. Its platform wide (literally) and is supported on every device i can think of.
Hit thanks if I've helped you.
Hope you figure out this issue!
You could use text free for texts you just couldn't use your own number or Google voice of course for text and calls. But you can't route your actual cell phone calls and texts over wifi. T-Mobile has that capability but not us on at&t.
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Google voice + groove IP
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Google voice + groove IP
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+1 Groove IP
ArtificialMusik said:
For calls, to my understanding, naturally. No. I'd say get something like Skype where you can do VoIP and do all your calls from there on WiFi, as for texts and MMS you really shouldn't have any problems. as far as I'm concerned, texts should be fine, and mms should download via wifi if you are connected. But if it continues to be a problem you could always get Textfree or Whatsapp and get your friends in on that. Its platform wide (literally) and is supported on every device i can think of.
Hit thanks if I've helped you.
Hope you figure out this issue!
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Actually there is a new app called Sidecar that lets you call any number over WiFi for free.
I have tried it, and its pretty good.
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Actually there is a new app called Sidecar that lets you call any number over WiFi for free.
I have tried it, and its pretty good.
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Also bobsled.
Voice calls? YES
SMS? YES
MMS? NO
I thought that Google voice was supposed to start supporting MMS, but not sure when. I have been waiting for a while. I use Groove ip as well.
Whats difference between SMS and MMS? A friend and I are 7 days late and our phones are off.
I had viber but got rid of it cause i wasn't using it. (maybe redownload?)
Also my google voice doesn't let me make calls or send messages? (it says I can do international calls - but I turned it off cause it said I needed money in a "google account" sigh...)
I can still use wifi at my house, but thats about it.
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Whats difference between SMS and MMS? A friend and I are 7 days late and our phones are off.
I had viber but got rid of it cause i wasn't using it. (maybe redownload?)
Also my google voice doesn't let me make calls or send messages? (it says I can do international calls - but I turned it off cause it said I needed money in a "google account" sigh...)
I can still use wifi at my house, but thats about it.
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Edgarhighmen said:
Whats difference between SMS and MMS? A friend and I are 7 days late and our phones are off.
I had viber but got rid of it cause i wasn't using it. (maybe redownload?)
Also my google voice doesn't let me make calls or send messages? (it says I can do international calls - but I turned it off cause it said I needed money in a "google account" sigh...)
I can still use wifi at my house, but thats about it.
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You can use Google voice to make call plus text I use it all the time just create and account or sign in with your Google account it even gives you your own number which is used to call or text
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Does anyone have the Oppo Find X on Verizon?

I'm only going to be able to get it if it works on Verizon since I'm in a combined plan with my family in the US. If it is possible what version of the phone would it be, from research I've seen some sites saying it works and others saying it doesn't. It seems that the Chinese version for sure doesn't, but I hope others will, thanks!
I'm using the Chinese model on Verizon right now. Voice call won't work, but you can use it with data. Once the SIM is insert, wait for about 5-10 min, it will pick up Verizon signal. After that you will have to go into *#*=4636#*#* and set it to CDMA/LTE or LTE only for it to work with data. I'm using it with Google "hang out and hang out dialer" to make voip call (works flawlessly, the sound is just like regular phone call). Make sure to set hang out to always running in the back ground and LOCK it in the recent running app. and of course, all notification on.
Good luck!
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duybinh said:
I'm using the Chinese model on Verizon right now. Voice call won't work, but you can use it with data. Once the SIM is insert, wait for about 5-10 min, it will pick up Verizon signal. After that you will have to go into *#*=4636#*#* and set it to CDMA/LTE or LTE only for it to work with data. I'm using it with Google "hang out and hang out dialer" to make voip call (works flawlessly, the sound is just like regular phone call). Make sure to set hang out to always running in the back ground and LOCK it in the recent running app. and of course, all notification on.
Good luck!
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So can I use my Verizon number as my google hangouts/dialer number? Does everyone I know have to switch to google hangouts over texting? Do I have to give everyone I know a new phone number that is google hangouts/dialer? Do texts go to google hangouts and you can respond to them there (the people don't have google hangouts)?
EDIT: Yes, No, No, Yes
Fireflykid said:
So can I use my Verizon number as my google hangouts/dialer number? Does everyone I know have to switch to google hangouts over texting? Do I have to give everyone I know a new phone number that is google hangouts/dialer? Do texts go to google hangouts and you can respond to them there (the people don't have google hangouts)?
EDIT: Yes, No, No, Yes
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You can have your Verizon number forward to hang out number and everyone can call you on that. They don't have to switch, texting with hang out is like normal. You can give your hang out phone number only for texting, because you cannot forward text message. In short, it is not a seamless transition. If you do not want to use 2 separate numbers, the only way is to give everyone the new hangout number for both call and text
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You can have your Verizon number forward to hang out number and everyone can call you on that. They don't have to switch, texting with hang out is like normal. You can give your hang out phone number only for texting, because you cannot forward text message. In short, it is not a seamless transition. If you do not want to use 2 separate numbers, the only way is to give everyone the new hangout number for both call and text
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This is all true; however, you can port your Verizon number to Google voice (including google messenger and dialer) for a one time $20 fee; a.k.a keep your number but use google instead of Verizon.

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