Deafult GPS settings, Standalone or MS Based? - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys I recently exchanged my x10 for a galaxy s cause I had a problem with it, well anyways one of the things that really bugged me about the galaxy was the seemingly useless GPS! The x10 used to get me a lock within 10 secs or less, but the galaxy takes ages to get it and even once it does it doesn't stay for long! Finally got a fix for it by changing the Gps operation mode from 'standalone' to "Ms Based', now I'm getting really quick locks (10-15 secs) so what I wanted to know was what are the default settings on the x10 in 2.1? Is it set to 'Standalone' or 'Ms Based', if its at Ms based then its pretty much the reason why it was so damn quick, if not then WOW it has a really good GPS receiver!

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[Q] GPS on Bionix 1.3.1

I don't know if this is in the right area so if it's not please move it. I know there is a lot of questions revolving around the GPS for the Vibrant.I was just curious to see how you guys are getting the best performance from your GPS using Bionix 1.3.1. So please post and tell me, my GPS sucks and I've tried all fixes that I know of including the hardware fix. THIS QUESTION IS FOR BIONIX 1.3.1 USERS ONLY THANK YOU!!!
Nobody ??????
Pretty sure it's working here without any tweaks. What is it doing?
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Mine worked great on Bionix...
Mine works great with bionix after i got the samsung gps fix off market
my gps never worked until they sent me an exchange. now it is amazingly good. i even tried walking from one end of the driveway to the other using My Tracks and it had me the whole way. i think one night i even locked on to 9 out of 16 birds. i never even heard of anyone seeing more than 13 birds! sometimes when i first turn it on it has me a few blocks away but within ten seconds i'm locked on. even works pretty well inside. the warranty exchange definitely did the trick, although i believe i got a brand new phone, who knows? definitely a hardware issue IMHO
tony yayo said:
my gps never worked until they sent me an exchange. now it is amazingly good. i even tried walking from one end of the driveway to the other using My Tracks and it had me the whole way. i think one night i even locked on to 9 out of 16 birds. i never even heard of anyone seeing more than 13 birds! sometimes when i first turn it on it has me a few blocks away but within ten seconds i'm locked on. even works pretty well inside. the warranty exchange definitely did the trick, although i believe i got a brand new phone, who knows? definitely a hardware issue IMHO
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Any idea what kind of accuracy you get?
It will find sometimes up to 13 sats, but from that point it will never lock. I've left it on for 30 minutes before trying to get it to work. It never wants to lock though. The accuracy is always terrible to, it always ranges from 3500 to 2700 meters never gets below that.
mugenfiji0327 said:
It will find sometimes up to 13 sats, but from that point it will never lock. I've left it on for 30 minutes before trying to get it to work. It never wants to lock though. The accuracy is always terrible to, it always ranges from 3500 to 2700 meters never gets below that.
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Yeah, that is terrible. Did your GPS ever work? (Before Bionix)
I got it to lock one time. I had to leave it on for 45 minutes though before it would lock and after that it never locked again. I know this is one of the devices mfg before OCT 2010. I already called them and they want me to send it in. If there is a fix that I can use to get it working before I send it in though, that would be great.
Oh and I have tried the gps restore app from the market and that always fails too.
That sux :-/
Delete gps data. Change gps to cold Start. Reboot. get a good lock.change gps to hot start. Reboot.
If that disney help, try hethens gps fix
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use a-gps is fast.
Well .. It's a little bit awkward, because everyone here says gps on bionix 1.3.1 it's working well but mine sucks. Utterly bitterly sucks. It always says "could not get your location" and stuff..
Mine works great with Bionix 1.3.1 & Sgps. I flash it at the same time I flash Bionix. I don't know if it makes a difference to do it that way. I'm also running Overstock. I can usually get a lock in 5 to 20 seconds even indoors. I've had lots of trouble getting it to work in the past but Sgps seems to work for me.
PS: Before launching my GPS app I use GPS test to get a lock then launch my GPS app of choice.
Hmmm... Sgps? Where is that? I'm gonna give it a shot.
Okay I guess I'll just have to send it off lol. I've tried all of the software fixes and I've done the hardware fix and none of that has helped in anway. I think the GPS in there is just bunk lol. Thanks for all your suggestions though guys. I appreciate it. Well a week without my phone, I don't know how I'll live.
en,GPS also drove me crazy at first,but when I reset APN without any software,it‘s working perfectly~
I sent it off couldn't find a fix that worked. Oh well hopefully it comes back working. I just don't know how I'm going to survive a week without my phone

[Q] GPS on froyo no longer locks

I've got my vibrant a year ago in august... so yeah i applied the hardware fix, which bumped up noticeably the signal levels of the birds. From what I can tell, the levels are about the same.
My first gps success was bionix, since that moment all froyos we're great, last time i remember great gps was trigger 3 (i think i applied the sgps.zip and it was still great).
i've flashed to GB with asgard, gps would get great reception but locking was hard and unpredictable.
i've hanged around with asgards for about a month and a half, and flashed to project v
gps still sucks, wierd, flashed to trigger 3.2, still crap, flashed sgps.zip, crap, uninstalled bloater settings, modded gps.conf, crap.
i've used to have a sweetspot where 3 birds would give 40+ reception, and almost instant lock even before hardware fix. my nokia can still get 8+ birds and instant lock in that spot, my vibrant no longer does.
i've found one very stange spot it would get 12 birds with 30+ on all, but no lock.
when i go outside it would not see any birds at all, it's wierd now there is a single point i've found where it actually gets 12 birds, at the sweetspot it gets one, and outside it gets none.
i've odin'ed to stock, and install project v, no restores no nothing, just to try the gps settings, and still crap.
tried samsung gps restore, crap.
i doubt reopening my phone will do any good since signals seem to still be high level (in the two spots it gets 'em)
what do you think? suggestions?

How is the GPS working on the Samsung Galaxy S 2?

I'm sure everyone knows about the GPS bugs that plague the first generation Galaxy S. I've read the SGS 2 reviews and they said the GPS issues have been fixed, but can I get some opinions on whether anyone experienced any GPS issues? Is the GPS on the SGS 2 as accurate and good as the one on the iPhone 4?
Works fine. Faster lock than my IP4.
Its much faster than the Galaxy S1. I found the GPS to be close to useless on S1. On my S2 its close to perfect
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Works great and picks up signals inside buildings.
I had the sgs1 for about 6 months and now the sgs2 for about 3 weeks. I was soooo disappointed with the first sgs and like you I was unsure if I wanted to give the 2 a try...
Well I read a bunch and it seems that most people are happy so I bought it...
I can say with out a doubt that the GPS is way better on the 2 than the sgs1. I could not use Google navigation at all with the sgs1... it was useless and could never lock on and would have me blocks away from where I was. I've used my sgs2 GPS with Google navigation on more than a dozen trips /drives and it has always been spot on and never had me in the wrong location.
I will say that lock times are very slow when Im driving
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I run every other day for an hour or two, I use runkeeper, also when out hiking I use mmtracker to read my o's maps, I can safely say especially with runkeeper the gpx routes recorded through the SGS2 are far more accurate than the iphone4 even managing to stay accurate whilst running through the forest, actual initial cold starting is about the same if not slightly faster with the sgs2. Oh yes and practically every time I recorded a run with the iphone4 through a certain part of my forest run it would create a spike where I was apparently running at 250mph hmm not sure I am that fast, but the sgs2 always keeps an accurate smooth record, hope that helps
for me, flaky. some days i'll get a lock within a minute and then it's fine. this morn and yest - takes ages to get a lock.
basically, ymmv
Download FasterFix. You can choose from a list of servers. Choose the country closest to you or, if it is in the list, your own country. This way you'll 'half your fixtime' so it connects faster to GPS-Sat.
It's like using the aiding sensors (e.g. WiFi).
I get a fix in >10sec max.
Hope it helps.
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i think gps on SG2 is far from perfect. It's "OK" but i had much better gps on my previous phone (HTC Hero)
What is the average time for a fix, for you guys?
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Mine takes between 10 seconds and a minute. Sometimes it just sits there doing nowt lol.
Xperia X10 used to lock in 10 seconds every time, but the rest of that phone was slow lol
The only time I have ever had a problem getting a fix, I simply opened up google maps and it seemed to get a fix instantly then returned to my other gps application and all was ok.
First thing in the morning outside fix within a few seconds
Indoors sometimes can take a little longer, but never more than about 10 seconds
I use GPS a lot
biffsmash said:
Mine takes between 10 seconds and a minute. Sometimes it just sits there doing nowt lol.
Xperia X10 used to lock in 10 seconds every time, but the rest of that phone was slow lol
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Have you tried FasterFix?
THUDUK said:
I use GPS a lot
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I guess you said this to clarify that you've got good statistics, but a very interesting thing is that if you use the GPS often you likely get shorter fix time
The reason is that if you used the GPS recently (within hours) the cached GPS info is more accurate so the GPS doesn't need complete messsages to determine the position (it takes 30 seconds to send one complete position message from a satellite), and if you get interruptions you need to wait even longer, that is why it sometimes takes more than a minute to get a fix.
A-GPS also helps fix time in many cases.
BryanNL said:
Download FasterFix. You can choose from a list of servers. Choose the country closest to you or, if it is in the list, your own country. This way you'll 'half your fixtime' so it connects faster to GPS-Sat.
It's like using the aiding sensors (e.g. WiFi).
I get a fix in >10sec max.
Hope it helps.
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already done. still slow
THUDUK said:
The only time I have ever had a problem getting a fix, I simply opened up google maps and it seemed to get a fix instantly then returned to my other gps application and all was ok.
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+1
Same thing happened to me.
Absolutely brilliant.
90% of the time it gets a lock within 30 secs , there's been sometimes when it needed a restart to get gps working properly but that's down to an app I was using previously which messed things up a bit, but on the whole I very happy with it.
The seamless integration with google maps is great. The external speaker is plenty loud & clear enough to hear the instructions but would like a less robotic sounding voice, re routing is quick & so far its been 100% reliable.
I have a built in gps system on my Land Rover but I almost always use the SGS2 gps over it. I used to have the SGS1 but the gps on that was a piece of crap. Gps on HTCs, etc, are probably just as good/better/worse, I don't know but one thing I'm sure about is the speaker volume would never be as loud & clear as the SGS2.
I get a lock up to 4m accuracy. My Captivate always had about 1500m accuracy and couldn't use it. Using navigation works perfectly on my sgs2
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Excellent
Like others here, i suffered from the original SGS gps nightmare
SGS2 gps has been great for me, able to use google maps/navigation/RAC app all without problem
I didn't realise how much location based services I used untill the problems with SGS gps clearly highlighted this. Now, with my SGS2 all is good.
Is there an app like the LBStesmode for froyo that I can use to change/check the gps settings?

How's SG S2 GPS accuracy on ICS

Given how bad Samsung Galaxy S2's GPS accuracy is using the stock Samsung Gingerbread firmware, I'm curious to know if Samsung got the GPS issues fixed in ICS?
Using the standard Samsung ICS firmware, how many satellites are folks able to lock on to? What kind of accuracy are you getting? How long does it take to get a lock?
Before I upgrade to ICS, I'd like to know what I can expect.
Thanks for any answers.
P.S. I've spent a few hours reading through S2 ICS threads for any mention of GPS performance and have found only one post that mentioned how long it was taking someone to get a lock indoors, which isn't a fair test of GPS ability.
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Given how bad Samsung Galaxy S2's GPS accuracy is using the stock Samsung Gingerbread firmware, I'm curious to know if Samsung got the GPS issues fixed in ICS?
Using the standard Samsung ICS firmware, how many satellites are folks able to lock on to? What kind of accuracy are you getting? How long does it take to get a lock?
Before I upgrade to ICS, I'd like to know what I can expect.
Thanks for any answers.
P.S. I've spent a few hours reading through S2 ICS threads for any mention of GPS performance and have found only one post that mentioned how long it was taking someone to get a lock indoors, which isn't a fair test of GPS ability.
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I've been using ICS for a while now, (Since betas - december) and all I can say is that it fixes faster than GB stock...
I'm using now the Bezke 4.1 ICS rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393569), and it feels great!
I don't know about other users (from other countries and stuff) but for me is working really great!!
With CM9 & the AGPS patch in my sig, I can normally get 10m accuracy (sometimes 5). Outside takes around 10-20 seconds to get a lock, inside 30 seconds to a minute (and I live in a house with an iron roof so it's not ideal for GPS or even phone signals to get thru).
MistahBungle said:
With CM9 & the AGPS patch in my sig, I can normally get 10m accuracy (sometimes 5). Outside takes around 10-20 seconds to get a lock, inside 30 seconds to a minute (and I live in a house with an iron roof so it's not ideal for GPS or even phone signals to get thru).
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This sounds like they fixed the GPS issue. Using the stock Gingerbread, I could never get my S2 to do better than about 25m. Rooted with the GPS fix I found here I'm getting 5-10m regularly. Really, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to fix the GPS. I'd be quite happy with a non-rooted S2 if it didn't have GPS issues.
Most GB firmware and phones never had GPS issues .
Its not a widely reported problem on XDA and like many my GB phone never had a problem from firmware KDD onwards .
jje
JJEgan said:
Most GB firmware and phones never had GPS issues .
Its not a widely reported problem on XDA and like many my GB phone never had a problem from firmware KDD onwards .
jje
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My S2 (GT-I9100) was sent to me from someone in France. Most of the time it would only lock to around 50m accuracy and only occasionally lock to 25m accuracy. Once I got it rooted and installed the GPS fix it worked fine. It will lock to 10m pretty quickly and then after a bit on a clear day lock down to 5m.
My concern is I don't want to go to ICS if I'll lose my 5m accuracy ability.
Personal opinion ICS is not worth the upgrade yet .
jje
JJEgan said:
Personal opinion ICS is not worth the upgrade yet .
jje
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This is the advice I need to hear. The only real reason I'd want to upgrade to ICS is to try Google Chrome browser. As a web dev it would be useful to see how my sites do on it, but I'm not keen to live on the bleeding edge either. The last thing I want to do is screw up my GPS lock or WiFi abilities... or for that matter, brick my phone again (that majorly sucked).
JJEgan said:
Personal opinion ICS is not worth the upgrade yet .
jje
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Well said jj
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JFI I'm a heavy GPS user as I have my own speed limit app which I programmed up in the days when I had an HTC Desire.
When I got my S2, I found the GPS performance to be much worse than my old Desire and I had to alter the programming of the app to cope with the worse accuracy obtained on the S2 (which was particulaly noticeable during first few mins of using GPS)
I say all this so that you know I really use gps all the time
Since upgrading to ICS a week ago ( the O2 LP3 firmware), the accuracy at first use of a GPS app (Google Maps or my own speed limit one) has improved enormously and I have been able to revert my app to its old settings.
I think a lot of people who say there was nothing wrong with the GPS didn't really rely on it and it was good enough for their own personal use (either that of there is a strange bug that only affects certain ones )
Simon
Example - saved tracks from my app - new track in red (6Apr12) - old track in blue (30Dec11) Yellow Circle - actual starting point
They dit fix it !!
Hi from France,
i have galaxy s2 since 1 year and GPS accuracy was important for me (walking, geocaching...)
it was crap with gingerbread and i had to buy a bluetooth gps device to have a decent accuracy (5 m for example)
i never root or else to the phone, only official updates.
I got ICS a few weeks ago...and wow, S2 is at last accurate. It is quicker and around 10 m accurate after 10 seconds (with a gps) and sometimes 5m after a few seconds more.
When i check coordinates on google maps or other soft they are really around 5 meters accurate.
So i did no longer need my bluetooth device....i used S3 yesterday : it has 2x more satellites in view (russian ones + american ones). But accuracy wasn't better than a "up to date" galaxy S2...
never forget that 5 meters is the best to expect from those devices, even "trekking GPS" are around 5-10 meters... only military devices (with payment) can have a better precision (around 10 cm.....)
Yes folks, Galaxy S2 has now a REAL gps device inside, and that's a pretty good news, ICS must be the reason !
Alex
Hello
I am from India. The GPS on ICS is pretty good.
10 seconds lock in an open area and 30 seconds inside the house.
I must say its pretty great.. Way better than the gingerbread.:good:
What GPS??
I bought my S2 with GB on it. Later I upgraded to CM9.1. Up till today (1 week of using it) I have never seen my S2 got GPS lock. I started to wonder if Samsung forget to install GPS on my phone. Compared to Xperia and Zte Blade, S2 is huge in size and performance but no GPS lock. I have try a few different rom ( GB, ICS & JB) and all of them has no GPS lock. Must be they forgot to install GPS on my phone

Anyone else, NOT impressed with ICS?

Is anyone else not impressed with Ice Cream Sandwich the recent 'update' for our Sony S tablets?
I, and I suspect many others have many issues, in particular mine are:
Poor WiFi stability, weaker signal, takes a while to connect, and, yes, I'm only a few metres from my router.
Screen flickers for no apparent reason ... just annoying.
A lot of my apps don't work anymore, or, are sluggish at best, even paid 'pro' apps too.
It seems to lock up on (many) occasions, can't change screens, powering on and off, mostly clears this ..... for a while!
If I could, I'd be happy to back revert to Honeycome, the previous OS, it was faster, stable, all my apps worked great, good WiFi.
It's not a pleasent experience using the Sony S tablet anymore .........
Anyone else thoughts on this?
Sorry, I but I do not share your woes. I got my tablet only a few weeks before ICS was released and although I experience one or two issues, and I certainly am not having the problems you seem to be.
Yes, I the screen flickering is annoying.. Curiously this is mainly an issue when I am running YouTube. But I am certainly experiencing less issues now than I was with HC. I can stay connected to wifi, and for a start. Which was a challenge with HC.
I appreciate that new SW comes with bugs. And am disappointed that the length of time it takes for Android bugs to be fixed. But generally, and I find ICS ok.
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WIFI
I am in THE USA and i am having a lot of trouble with the wifi on this tablet...it works when it wants to basically.... i have to turn wifi off then on and it works. SO UPDATE FROM SONY NEEDED TO ALL USERS!!!
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ICS Rocks! :victory:
I am happy with ICS, no problem at all on my unrooted tablet s.
It's faster and more smooth than before !
For me ICS has soem good and some bad changes:
good:
1) faster, specially the remote is now a lot faster to change device
2) some nice new features, like the small apps
3) wifi works better. It starts faster and more reliable. Before ICS I often had to start it manually after sleep. Now it starts automatically almost always.
bad:
1) remote gets stuck sometimes and I need to wait 10-15 secs before it works again (daily)
2) system locks up now and then and needs to be reset via the reset pin (about once a week)
3) screen flicker (does not bother me much, very minor thing)
Overall I would recommend ICS update, but it is not perfect
If you had your screen in stand-by, you wi-fi would probaly be off, thats not a big deal and yes its a bug, but its not going to be repaired atm, so we have to live with it, even if you turn on your screen again, it won't search automatic for signal, but only thing you have to do is going to settings>wi-fi and thats it not even touching other buttons, then it will auto detect and connect no problem,
The screen flickering, well yes its annoying but no its not that bad, just make shure the tab hasn't many apps working at the same time, keep killing apps, and it will happen not as much anymore,
I think ICS is way better then Honeycomb, so not only the looks but also the system, its fast good looking and stable. at least for me. i can't complain so i won't 2 little things can not end the pleasure of this beatifull tablet,
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet, or simply buy a normal Laptop, android is growing really fast but its not as big as other olders systems, be proud with what you have.
Please keep in mind i'm dutch so my english could be ****ty.
Mahaco said:
If you had your screen in stand-by, you wi-fi would probaly be off, thats not a big deal and yes its a bug, but its not going to be repaired atm, so we have to live with it, even if you turn on your screen again, it won't search automatic for signal, but only thing you have to do is going to settings>wi-fi and thats it not even touching other buttons, then it will auto detect and connect no problem,
The screen flickering, well yes its annoying but no its not that bad, just make shure the tab hasn't many apps working at the same time, keep killing apps, and it will happen not as much anymore,
I think ICS is way better then Honeycomb, so not only the looks but also the system, its fast good looking and stable. at least for me. i can't complain so i won't 2 little things can not end the pleasure of this beatifull tablet,
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet, or simply buy a normal Laptop, android is growing really fast but its not as big as other olders systems, be proud with what you have.
Please keep in mind i'm dutch so my english could be ****ty.
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My Wi-Fi reconnects automatically and immediately when the screen turns on again before and after the upgrade to ICS !
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet? Who knows if that will be the case

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