Hello all,
In your opinions, what is the most stable and bug free rom out for the gtab right now? I have Gadam right now as my daily, but looking for another to switch
between, but I don't want to make the wrong choice.
I really liked TnT Lite, but it doesn't see PEAP authenticated wireless networks. Running Vegan 5.11 now, it runs well too but I've had intermittent issues with the apps market.
To be honest they all have their bugs, you just have to find the right rom that fits your needs. I started with tnt lite when I first got my gtab from woot. I was getting alot of apps fc'ing so I tried vegan tab 5.1.1 then got bored so I tried caulkins which had some issues. Also tried vegan gingerbread which i really like but couldn't play videos so now I'm back to vegan 5.1.1 which is the most stable and works best for my needs.
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+1 on VEGAn 5.1.1.
If the rom just working and not having a bunch of force closes is boring then this is not the rom for you. However, if you just want your gTab to be fast and reliable then this is the rom for you.
I'm loving Vegan 7 RC1. It's Gingerbread based so you don't get blazing fast hardware video decoding, but thus far that isn't a feature I use. For browsing the web, streaming the news (video or audio) Wifi location support, etc etc it is AWESOME.
Another one for vegan. I like more the UI of tapntap, looks more like a tablet, but doesn't work as smooth as vegan. Just waiting for Vegan 7 to have the video drivers.
+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1
Keep the opinions coming.
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
Riccarr said:
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
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I'm using launcher pro with auto rotate enable and it works fine. Rotates to all side, up, down, left, right. Maybe you have to check your launcher?
sjmoreno said:
+1 on VEGAn 5.1.1.
If the rom just working and not having a bunch of force closes is boring then this is not the rom for you. However, if you just want your gTab to be fast and reliable then this is the rom for you.
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+1 VEGAn 5.1.1 it is fast stable and runs circles around the stock ROM.
I couldn't comprehend using anything other than the Calkulin+Clemsyn OC Combo. It provides what I believe to be the best ROM (Calkulin) with the best kernel (Clemsyn 1.5Ghz OC) in a single package. If you think VEGAn 5.1.1 is fast, try this combo, it will blow you away.
Fast but no stable and somethings doesn't work like gps tethering, Bluetooth file transfer, etc... so faster doesn't mean always better.
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I'm loving Vegan 7 RC1. It's Gingerbread based so you don't get blazing fast hardware video decoding, but thus far that isn't a feature I use. For browsing the web, streaming the news (video or audio) Wifi location support, etc etc it is AWESOME.
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+1 for Gingerbread based rom, seem like custom build rom are better than Froyo almost emulator rip... Eventually they will be the one to use!
Gojimmy has done a very good work with his custom launcher!
Calkulin / Clemsyn is also a very good choice
I can't believe that more love hasn't been shown for Calkulin and Clemsyn. I am running Calkulin's 1.1 with an unreleased version 10 of Clemsyn and it is smoking fast, stable (no sleep issues), and plays videos flawlessly (rock player light).
For my purposes, it does everything better than Vegan 5.1.1 which I loved before.
I am tempted by the new combo rom that Clemsyn is now supporting but I am generally a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kinda guy.
I would be tempted to try a gingerbread rom if NVidia supports it with drivers.
Riccarr said:
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
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Gojimi's free launcher looks fantastic and does auto-rotate the home screen.
Am I missing something?
sumdumdude said:
I couldn't comprehend using anything other than the Calkulin+Clemsyn OC Combo. It provides what I believe to be the best ROM (Calkulin) with the best kernel (Clemsyn 1.5Ghz OC) in a single package. If you think VEGAn 5.1.1 is fast, try this combo, it will blow you away.
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I've read several people on this thread and others that say such and such rom is faster than such and such other rom. Seriously, what do you guys do on your gTabs that you keep having to jump on the next "fastest" benchmark screenshot? I really don't get it so can someone give me some real life examples so I can understand? Is it purely for bragging rights or what?
I'm running VEGAn 5.1.1 now but before that I tried a few TnT variants and nothing I used my gTab for seemed to be noticibly affected by one or another flavor of rom except for stability.
I use the hell out my gTabs by the way. I watch videos I've ripped, play games like Samurai 2: Vengeance, use remote desktop software to access work computers to do work, create and modify Office documents, and use Flash to watch videos on sites like Fox Television and HULU.
So I just want to know why I should be jumping to a new rom or kernel release every day. And yes I know about pershoot's overclock kernel too which would let you show your buddies a screenshot with crazy fast numbers on a benchmark.
If you're not a newbie and flashing something new everyday makes you feel complete then by all means, do it, we need folks like you to flush out bugs for the cookers to fix. But I feel like we've got a lot of new members that joined us recently that aren't all that experienced at modding and steering them in directions of roms or kernel hacks that are either unnecessary or not very stable for most users' everyday needs is irresponsible.
That's my humble opinion and I'll get of my soapbox now.
Really torn between Calkulin and Clemsyn, and vegan now. I care more about stable and less bugs/problems then speed.
Since going to Vegan Ginger period, I have had zero issues. Granted, mine is for recreational use at the moment so nvflashing often isnt an issue. Not to take anything away from Calkulin, both ROMs seemed just as stable/fast for my daily use. The deciding factor then was look, feel, and (for me) settings. lol Vegan and gojimi's VTL Launcher lets me customize practically anything.
+1 Vegan RC, but to each their own. You wont find whats best for your setup in this thread, not until you try each ROM and see for yourself.
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Really torn between Calkulin and Clemsyn, and vegan now. I care more about stable and less bugs/problems then speed.
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If you plan on using it to play videos then go with something Froyo as none of the Gingerbread ROM's have hardware acceleration so video will be choppy.
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Just wanted to get some opinions on what people are running on their G Tablets, and feel is the best performing ROM?
Also do most/all ROMs support and utilize the dual core of the Tegra?
Any opinions and suggestions on getting the best performing G Tablet would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks much.
Anything on the 1.2 bootloader is going to perform better. The kernels activate the second core at 60% of core ones capacity where kernels for 1.1 activate core 2 at redline of core 1.
Thanks Mantara. Any personal preferences on ROMS? I've tried TNT Lite, and like it, but seem to still have some sluggishness with WIFI, and would like to try something newer based on an Android 2.3 or 3.0 core.
Hold off on any 3.0 roms for now. Still lots of brick issues.
Are you on bootloader 1.1 or 1.2?
If your on 1.1 try calculins+clemsyns version 5. Its got cool tweeks that block adds and control CPU speed based on battery level. It is my personal favorite.
If your on 1.2 I would use cm7 mod for 1.2 in the development section. You can easily get Netflix working, its stable and it has that cyanogen charm that has really made android shine.
You can use cm7 on bootloader 1.1 and C+C on 1.2 (version 6) but through my use I have found them faster and more stable running on the BLs I stated above.
All this is just personal preference though. The whole reason we are on this site is trying things out to find out exactly what we personally like.
Happy flashing,
Ive only had my gtab for a week. Ive tried cm7 based on the. 1.1 then i went to vegan based on 1.2. The vegan is much faster but im not sure if its vegan itself or the different build that is making such a big difference
Vegan 7 has some good tweeks. It just isn't being supported any more.
Kernel makes a big difference. Did you flash a new kernel over cm7?
Also with 1.2 vegan the stock kernel (made by pershoot) is optomized and overclocked to 1.4ghz.
Cm7 for 1.2 has more optimization and than vegan simply for the fact vegan is based off of cm7 7.0.0
And the 1.2 cm7 is 7.0.3. That's about a thousand changes to the rom.
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Hold off on any 3.0 roms for now. Still lots of brick issues.
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Respectfully disagree with this statement. I have been running Roebeet's HC ROMs since the very beginning and, except for a couple of brief problematic versions, have thoroughly enjoyed them all with no bricking along the way.
Currently on Bottle of Smoke 5.2 alpha and have yet to see issues when I flash to a new one. (IMHO) the vast majority of people who are soft-bricking are not following the correct instructions in some way. I did read about a bunch of issues with the illuminate version (modded copy of Roebeet's older ROM). If you stick with Roebeet's stuff and his directions (exactly) you should not have problems. Also GoodIntentions has his G-tab for Dummies site with even more simplified steps.
Before this I ran VEGAnTab (latest) and the only thing I had with that one that I don't now is the camera (no big loss) and flash videos (again, not a big deal). This is my daily driver - I have way over 200 apps installed and every single one that I have tried works fine so far. Overclocked to 1.4 with no FCs yet. At work I stream music with TuneIn Pro and have News360 running all day long and still have 30+% of battery left at day's end. My Quadrant scores are usually 1800-2200 and that is with a pile of stuff being loaded at boot.
For me, it all basically boils down to the interface. I really like the HC one and could not go back to a FroYo or GB-based one now.
Plus, there is the "wow" factor. When someone says "you're running Honeycomb on that?" I just smile and say, "aren't you?"
@ mantra, i borked my tab on my first try going from cm7(1.1) to vegan(1.2) so i ended up nvflashing 1.2 stock then loaded vegan- not sure what exactly that mean on the state of my kernel. (first time paying with roms this week)
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Anything on the 1.2 bootloader is going to perform better. The kernels activate the second core at 60% of core ones capacity where kernels for 1.1 activate core 2 at redline of core 1.
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I saw this comment last week, as well - do we have any evidence of this? Did someone test this and document or is this some third-party boast? I'm just curious because, if it's true, it's the first true improvement over 1.1. The other things like Adam compatibility are important, but it doesn't necessarily make 1.2 BETTER than 1.1, just a little more convenient for things like HC development.
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....Plus, there is the "wow" factor. When someone says "you're running Honeycomb on that?" I just smile and say, "aren't you?"
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I love reading stuff like this - THAT makes modding worth doing. People have assumptions on the GTAB on what it can or can't do, so mods like this show them that it's not impossible if the vendor just pushed for it.
Btw, I agree about the interface over the 2.2/2.3 ROMs. The latter still feels like a big phone interface, even with the UI changes of things like CM7 or EDEN. HC really makes a tablet feel like a tablet, imo - and once they catch up with things like Netflix support, I think HC will eventually dominate.
Mantara said:
Hold off on any 3.0 roms for now. Still lots of brick issues.
Are you on bootloader 1.1 or 1.2?
If your on 1.1 try calculins+clemsyns version 5. Its got cool tweeks that block adds and control CPU speed based on battery level. It is my personal favorite.
If your on 1.2 I would use cm7 mod for 1.2 in the development section. You can easily get Netflix working, its stable and it has that cyanogen charm that has really made android shine.
You can use cm7 on bootloader 1.1 and C+C on 1.2 (version 6) but through my use I have found them faster and more stable running on the BLs I stated above.
All this is just personal preference though. The whole reason we are on this site is trying things out to find out exactly what we personally like.
Happy flashing,
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Thanks much! That's exactly what I was looking for, some personal preferences as a starting point.
I'm not sure if I have 1.1 or 1.2 on the boot loader - would love to get NetFlix going on it; so that's prob. going to be my starting point.
Bells and Whistles are nice lol
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For me, it all basically boils down to the interface. I really like the HC one and could not go back to a FroYo or GB-based one now.
Plus, there is the "wow" factor. When someone says "you're running Honeycomb on that?" I just smile and say, "aren't you?"
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Thanks Nun. I definitely would love to have a better interface than the typical phone feel; and NetFlix would be great.
tmx2112 said:
Just wanted to get some opinions on what people are running on their G Tablets, and feel is the best performing ROM?
Also do most/all ROMs support and utilize the dual core of the Tegra?
Any opinions and suggestions on getting the best performing G Tablet would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks much.
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well so far. i haven noticed much difference in 1.1 and 1.2 roms. both variations have the plus and minus
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i think it would be froyo, since everything is supported. FULL hw acceleration (of what ive been told). gb roms were pretty good too. But still have issues. and hc have many issues.
so froyo roms. now which one. ive tried the beastly one, and that was the best for me. Im currently on b corners but too many problems that i might go back to beastlys if i cant figure out this damn wifi bug
cheers
After a couple weeks venturing in the honeycomb world, I'm back to froyo. Specifically, I'm back to calk+clem combo.
VTL launcher + ripple lock + scrollable widgets + full hardware acceleration + OC + full stability = me happy.
roebeet said:
I saw this comment last week, as well - do we have any evidence of this? Did someone test this and document or is this some third-party boast? I'm just curious because, if it's true, it's the first true improvement over 1.1. The other things like Adam compatibility are important, but it doesn't necessarily make 1.2 BETTER than 1.1, just a little more convenient for things like HC development.
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As far as I know neither clemsyn and pershoot have made 1.1 versions of their alterations to the 1.2 kernels that change the power step in the second cores activation.
From his 1.2 kernel thread,
clemsyn said:
In 1.1 cpu1 runs onlywhen cpu0 is running 1000 and above. In 1.2 I changed it to run when cpu0 is 600 and above. I can also make one for 1.1 but I'm moving forward to 1.2.
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I have not read pershoots change log in a two weeks-ish so that may have changed but clemsyn has stated that he will Not make a 1.1 version with the change in power step as he is looking towards the future (1.2) and not the past (1.1). I'm just going off of what I have read on here and SLD. If I am reading this wrong I would appreciate a correction. I don't want to be spreading fallacy all over xda and misleading people.
As far as HC, once its in beta, I will shout it rom the rooftops that people flash it. Until then recommending it to flash as one of your first roms I can't recommend. HC will dominate the tablet world, it is beauty and functionality in motion. But to a person just wanting stability and full functionality it doesn't hit the mark yet. I believe to understand the present and to grasp the future you must know your history. This is why I will always recommend flashing a froyo or GB varient the first time, at least until HC is at least the state that GB is with hardware accell and flash.
As stated earlier, this is just my preference and that is the reason we are all on this site, its all about personal preference.
Thanks - so it's not that it's not possible, it's just that at least one of the kernel devs (Clem) isn't planning to backport his 1.2 changes to 1.1.
I'm a very big supporter of 1.2, but it's important to make that distinction, imo. I'm really not sure WHY there's a 1.2 to begin with (yes, we know that the voltage levels were changed, but not why it was done). All I know is that the Adam is 1.2 based, and Notion Ink is our best chance right now for an HC port with full acceleration. So 1.2 is where I'm staying.
Agreed on you assessment of the current HC port, btw. I call it an alpha for a reason - some things work really well, but a few important things are broken so it's more for advanced users who don't mind the caveats.
I just got my tablet about a month ago, so I'm new to a lot of this stuff. I've learned quite a lot so far. I'm using VEGAn-Tab Ginger edition. I thought about trying some of the other roms, but everything I need works fine on this one. Flash,Videos,web browsing,slingplayer, and others. Maybe when a beta version of honeycomb becomes available I'll upgrade.
just a follow up on this question- i have tried about 8 of the roms so far i love the "feel of the ginger and honey comb roms better but so far nothing beats the calk+clem combo for functionality and speed. i currently run it at 1.4 using cpu master to dial it back a bit. i had a bit of instability running it at 1.5
Try them all....I have yet to hear of a hard brick
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I'm not sure if I have 1.1 or 1.2 on the boot loader - would love to get NetFlix going on it; so that's prob. going to be my starting point.
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roebeet said:
Btw, I agree about the interface over the 2.2/2.3 ROMs. The latter still feels like a big phone interface, even with the UI changes of things like CM7 or EDEN. HC really makes a tablet feel like a tablet, imo - and once they catch up with things like Netflix support, I think HC will eventually dominate.
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One of the most exciting things I wanted to do on a tablet was run Netflix. Dare I say, once I saw a youtube video showing a G-tablet hacked to run Netflix properly (as well as Hulu directly off the site), it was my inspiration to bite the bullet and say I wanted one.
Little did I realize that Netflix currently only works on one rom, CM7, and that rom is not exactly the best option for this thing.
I just came back from a Digital Experience media event in NYC (I have a press pass), where I got to play with the new BB playbook, Samsung 10" tab, and the new webOS tablet. Made me realize how slow and laggy CM7 appears to have made my Gtablet! The tegra chip is capable of more, I've seen it fly through other roms, but I picked CM7 which lacks just about any kind of HW acceleration.
Meanwhile, there are all these little things that irk me- the camera doesn't work in apps like oovoo or yahoo messenger, there's a weird microSD/MMC bug that hides either your internal memory or your SD card (you can at least switch by flashing a zip that renames thins, but you still have to pick one to be invisible to most apps), and the mouse cursor doesn't work if you plug in a USB mouse.
That last one is an issue because I have one of these keyboard/mouse combo mini USB things:
http://gadgetynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/LenovoMiniWirelessKeyboard.jpg
And on other roms (like the stock one), it gives a mouse pointer I can move around and click where I want to pretend I'm touching the screen (pretty cool!). On CM7, it treats it like a track ball that moves the cursor around. So while I'm typing, if it shakes, the cursor moves to the left or right of where I'm trying to type. SUPER ANNOYING. I actually took some duct tape to hold the track ball down.
All this... so I can watch netflix in bed without a laptop. Worth it? I'm still doing it so I guess so. I mean, it was part of why I wanted a tablet. But I can't wait for more roms to work with netflix, I don't care if its Froyo. Just something fast that supports it and doesn't have all these little troublesome quirks!
I mean, someone is bound to figure out what makes it work on netflix and apply it to other roms, right? Or heck, maybe netflix will release an update that works with more devices soon? This is getting ridiculous, IMO!
Whew. Sorry for the rant, that's something I've been needing to say for a while!
Thanks Dishe ... they were some of the same little quirks I was reading about; actually one of the reasons I posted - I appreciate the feedback. I'm sure these guys out here busting it on all the cool ROMs will eventually hit one out of the park - provided all the vendors, i.e. Netflix, etc. get their act together, with DRM, etc.
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Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
Depends on what you want
I'm assuming since it's for compnay use you have no reason to require hardware acceleration for graphics or videos...in which case a gingerbread rom like vegan-tab ginger edition would be good or cyanogenmod. If you do want all the native hardware support with good usb handling including usb sticks and such I'd go with vegantab 5.1 or clemsyn+caulkins rom both of which are froyo, but are in my opinion the fastest most stable.
wrong section for this eh...
Its a custom rom question, where should I put it?
In general or q&a sections. To many of these in development section bumps useful dev threads out of site.
@moderator please move
Yah G Tablet Q&A!
For "all" of your questions relating to the Viewsonic G Tablet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1101
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
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Lol ^^^
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I like cm7... and have tried several others. Many awaiting development of integration of Flash. Most of them HoneyComb once done they will be rocking. Roebeet's and Illuminate are superior, there has been a lot of people that have contributed to the these ROM's. I would say learn how to use nvflash to restore your gtab back to stock configuration and try several of the ROM's for yourself and see which one fits your needs best. Good luck.
@goodintentions- Oh no u diiiiiint! Lol
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Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
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Beasty's was the fastest and smoothest I've come across so far.
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Not gonna lie, this made me laugh.
Oh, and I concur with the VEGAnTab 5.1 being very stable and usable.
grimmy311 said:
Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
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The Froyo based Brilliant Corners ROM over at slatedroid.com is by far the best ROM I have used. Very stable and full hardware support.
+1 for the brilliant corners ROM
Maybe you guys can help clear a few things up for me-
I was under the impression that Froyo roms are the only ones that have full 100% hardware support, since it was the only one supported by the manufacturer at the moment.
Right now I'm running CM7, which I've found rather laggy and many broken features (video chat apps don't seem to work, etc). I blamed it on the fact that CM7 uses Gingerbread and not Froyo.
I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
Dishe said:
I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
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You can somewhat compensate for the lack of hardware acceleration with overclocking. This is what many folks do.
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You can somewhat compensate for the lack of hardware acceleration with overclocking. This is what many folks do.
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Someone told me this once before (maybe it was you), but I disagree with this being a solution. Overclocking helps somewhat, but more code being sent to more CPU cycles is not always a direct tradeoff in performance. For example, when executing code the JVM has to deal with garbage collectors and other thread management issues that the GPU doesn't need to deal with. I read from notion ink's blog about new HC for the Adam that some of the java GC's can take anywhere between 7-500ms to do its work. The more code being sent to the GPU to offset CPU load, the smoother and less jittery the entire user experience will be.
Overclocking can help make the jittering go away faster, but also cause more of these hickups in a span of time, if I understand correctly.
Overclocking, while very cool, can also deplete your battery faster. I've been clocking at 1.2 and sometimes 1.4Ghz on CM7. I stopped using 1.4 because I noticed the battery didn't last as long, and sometimes the device seemed to heat up more than I remember normally. I'll still overclock, but at the end of the day I don't feel like my device is as smooth as it could be. And that irks me.
Why not just use an overclockable Froyo rom?
Meanwhile, Brilliant Corners sounds interesting but then I have to deal with that whole bootloader 1.2 mess. Not sure I want to go there yet.
Brilliant Corners is simply a 1.2 port of Vegan 5.1.1.
When the 1.2 bootloader arrived, Roebeet figured it would be the future bootloader for our tablets. He therefore made 1.2 equals of the 1.1 Roms he had a hand in developing. BC is Vegan 5.1.1, Mountain Laurel is his original TNT Lite, and Century Eyes is his Gadam rom.
So, if you want Brilliant corners, but don't want to switch bootloaders, then simply get Vegan 5.1.1. It's basically the same thing.
Personally, I was on Brilliant Corners until recently. I bought the tablet with TNT Lite pre-installed, then flashed Vegan 5.1.1. I decided to go to 1.2 and went to Brilliant Corners. I had a couple issues recently (not with the Rom, but the person that was using the Rom) and had to repartition. Figuring I'd lose everythign anyway, I decided ot give another rom a try. I went ot Beasty for 1.2 (it's an Adam Rom) Then, some apps wouldn't install for me, becuase my "device was not compatible." Figuring it was more of a headache, I decided to try Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for 1.2 and it's working like a dream so far. It's overclocked, but has built in Battery management, regulating the voltages as battery life get's lower. It's FAST, it's stable, and I think my battery has lasted longer than it did previously.
The good thing it, there are versions for 1.1 (v5) and 1.2 (v6) so anyone can use it...give it a test drive, you may never look back.
Dishe said:
Someone told me this once before (maybe it was you), but I disagree with this being a solution. Overclocking helps somewhat, but more code being sent to more CPU cycles is not always a direct tradeoff in performance. For example, when executing code the JVM has to deal with garbage collectors and other thread management issues that the GPU doesn't need to deal with. I read from notion ink's blog about new HC for the Adam that some of the java GC's can take anywhere between 7-500ms to do its work. The more code being sent to the GPU to offset CPU load, the smoother and less jittery the entire user experience will be.
Overclocking can help make the jittering go away faster, but also cause more of these hickups in a span of time, if I understand correctly.
Overclocking, while very cool, can also deplete your battery faster. I've been clocking at 1.2 and sometimes 1.4Ghz on CM7. I stopped using 1.4 because I noticed the battery didn't last as long, and sometimes the device seemed to heat up more than I remember normally. I'll still overclock, but at the end of the day I don't feel like my device is as smooth as it could be. And that irks me.
Why not just use an overclockable Froyo rom?
Meanwhile, Brilliant Corners sounds interesting but then I have to deal with that whole bootloader 1.2 mess. Not sure I want to go there yet.
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I completely agree with everything you said. That said, right now the only way to partially compensate for the lack of hw acceleration is overclocking.
So, either you have jerky video playback but have a stable device all the time or you can get rid of the jerkiness (for the most part) and have a stable device most of the time.
Regardless, I'm still recommending froyo just because it is the only one with full hw acceleration support.
Netflix Works... kind of
Dishe said:
Maybe you guys can help clear a few things up for me-
I was under the impression that Froyo roms are the only ones that have full 100% hardware support, since it was the only one supported by the manufacturer at the moment.
Right now I'm running CM7, which I've found rather laggy and many broken features (video chat apps don't seem to work, etc). I blamed it on the fact that CM7 uses Gingerbread and not Froyo.
I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
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Roebeet has a netflix hack that will work with both Brilliant Corners and VEGAn 5.1 The problem is, you lose the youtube app... which isn't a huge deal as you can still go to the website and play from there, with full hardware acceleration. So, it's a question of what you want to do. When i made the jump from 1.1 to 1.2 I think my battery life went down a little, but I haven't noted too much difference between VEGAn Tab 5.1 and Brilliant Corners.
If you want to make the 1.2 bootloader jump, try this. It is super straightforward.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
If you want the Netflix Hack for 1.2 , see here. Roebeet made one for Brilliant Corners:
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/171...lternative-12-based-firmware-g-tabletzpad-t2/
If you want to just stay on 1.1 and do VEGAntab5.1, the link for the neflix hack can be found in the second post here.
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/146...1-wsupplement-updated-021211-g-tabletzpad-t2/
I got my wife a gtablet from a member from this forum.
It came with older version of G Harmony and some of the soft buttons weren't working. That's fine, wiped, wiped and wiped again and then installed the latest.
Now I'm noticing it's having problems with going into sleep and not waking up. (not all the time but often)
I did the do not sleep from the setting screen and still the same thing.
Now I need a rom that she can use daily without any issues with youtube and hulu working and all the videos working great.
Any suggestions? or did I get a dud?
Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
full wipe everything and vegan 5.1.1 oughtta set you straight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120
Has been my daily driver for a few months with no problems. No sleep issues and excellent battery life. Only issue is that alternate keyboards require a manual install (moving the apk file from one dir to another)
good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
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I pretty new to this hobby. Having very good luck with:
Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo V6.
I'd start at goodintentions website:
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
and go from there.
Have fun...
Thanks just downloaded v6 from his site and going to lock horns now.
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what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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What he is talking about are keyboards that oyu can download from the market. They'll be different colors, different layouts, etc. One that I like has a voice and gesture input method.
on most roms, all that's needed to change the keyboard is to long tap on the text area, then activate the new keyboard. In Calkulin Clemysn, it's much different, as the stock keyboard is in the system files, and needs to be switched with the new one for it to work...
I personally have no issues with Calk's stock keyboard, so I haven't bothered changing it.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummie...2-04-replace-soft-keyboard-in-tnt-based-roms-
Here is a link to my how-to page to switch keyboards in TnT based froyo roms.
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good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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Yeah ppcgeeks back in the diamond days, I still hang out there too
Vegan 5.1.1 is better because it's froyo and not GB.
Froyo has hardware acceleration and GB does not, so that's why I went with that. You can go RC17.0 but I don't really see what it has to offer over the 2.2 version and it's not as fast or snappy.
I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
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I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
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I used CM7.1 and it had a few quirks. The app drawer sometimes lagged while open, sometimes things lagged just a tiny bit. Overall it's a good ROM, but netflix was fubar.
I am currently on CM7.03, netflix works, a few bugs but not too bad, I can take the tradeoff.
Froyo is VERY snappy, no bugs for me, seems faster than a SGT actually. Video playback is awesome, and some HD games.
My personal favorite is CM7.03 for netflix and CM goodies.
Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
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Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
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there's no hardware acceleration in GB either.
So I tried both Calc's + kernel and vegan +pershoot kernel rom.
Both are very snappy and responsive but found cons with few.
Vegan rom with pershoot kernel has the slow to wake issue with me having to have to double click on the power button to turn on.
Calc's rom with clemsyn kernel is great but at low battery, it starts to crawl.
It doesn't feel like 1.2ghz but more like 300mhz and it was still near 50%.
Wifi takes forever to turn back on.
Any tweaks that you guys can recommend ?
Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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It crawls when I'm just browsing files from the app drawer.
On which rom does it have performance settings?
edit: found the answer to my previous question.
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC [email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
Later.
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Gingerbread ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? There's a Gingerbread ROM with working HW acceleration now? Woot! Which one?
Hm. I feel I may be a little behind the times...
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To get things going, I don't really think I will be OC'ing. It looks like the Gingerbread ROM is stable and the latest release with all functionality. Do you agree? Any particular build, website, or videos you would recommend?
Thanks for the advice!
fre1102 said:
Wait, what? There's a Gingerbread ROM with working HW acceleration now? Woot! Which one?
Hm. I feel I may be a little behind the times...
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No there is none. He's mistaken
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB using XDA Forum App
wjones23 said:
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
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Here is a good website with info about current roms for the gtablet.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/rom.htm
My gtablet is on boot loader 1.1 so I can't tell you much about the new 1.2 roms. If for some reason your tablet is on boot loader 1.1 . This is my favorite rom that everything just works .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119888
I did replace the music program and the launcher. Here is a link to the vt launcher.
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/vt-labs/vtl-launcher/
Hope this helps. Enjoy
tsukaza said:
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC [email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
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Stand corrected, only Froyo ROMs support Hw acceleration.
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So, I don't get the feeling that anyone has a complete working ROM for Gingerbread or Honeycomb. Since I went ahead and ordered the gTablet, I will be researching further. Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2? I will be mainly using the tablet for internet surfing, FB, movies, YouTube, and , of course, the occasional Angry Birds.
Thanks Again,
WJones
wjones23 said:
So, I don't get the feeling that anyone has a complete working ROM for Gingerbread or Honeycomb. Since I went ahead and ordered the gTablet, I will be researching further. Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2? I will be mainly using the tablet for internet surfing, FB, movies, YouTube, and , of course, the occasional Angry Birds.
Thanks Again,
WJones
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Go with one of the Honeycomb roms. Just add Opera and Flash and you wont regreat it. Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down. Im currently using Honeycomb and now that Ive figured it out Im really liking it. Its got more eye candy then the Froyo rom.
I've tried alot of roms since I got my GTab in October. Currently running Flashback 7.1, a little trick to get into. I suggest trying a few.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
I've been running the Beasty 2.2.1 ROM and everything works. It's Froyo but I'm still quite happy with it.
Have it overclocked to 1.5Ghz and under voltaged. Stays cool and battery easily lasts a day or more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084573&highlight=beasty
wjones23 said:
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
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Same for me but I got an intersting anwser by a guy on XDA forum,
here is it .
This is the message:
Bonjour, Mikyreale!
I would recommend using VEGAN tab 7.0. It is the most stable and most complete Gingerbread operating system for the gTablet. If you want to use the latest operating system, but possibly not as stable, then use the Honeycomb-based gTabComb. I use it and have been very impressed with it.
Regarding gTabComb, I am using beta 3.3, and it has been quite stable so far with few reboots and force closes.
Regarding ClockworkMod (also known as CM), make sure you install version .8 and you can get that from here on xda-developers.
You can get either VEGAN Tab or gTabComb here on xda-developers as well.
I have videos on YouTube that show how to install ClockworkMod and VEGAN Tab. Search for user ehunyadi on YouTube.com.
Take care, and good luck!
Hope it will be good for you, My Gtab should arrive in a couple of days.
Miky
MechAniX.one said:
Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down.
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I'm using 5.1.1 and some times it's flakey (i.e. it's really sluggish if I install a bunch of apps until I reboot, and it needs the .nomedia fix) but overall it works well and I like how it looks/acts with VTL launcher. Gun Bros (Glu) is the only significant app that I can't use.
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Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2?
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Brilliant Corners; it's basically Vegan but newer and better, and on the 1.2 bootloader.
Just a couple notes on extra features/items that don't get much mention...
Wifi location: Only works on GB and HC roms
HD Video: Supposedly works on Froyo with full HW Acceleration, but full HW accel doesn't mean much if you can't even open the file. That is to say, so many videos need to be re-encoded to take advantage of the hw acceleration on the stock player, you might be better off just sticking with compressed 720p or 480p (there was a time not so long ago when DVD's were considered the best quality) content, which can play just fine on GB and HC.
Settings: ON many TnT derivatives, the settings app lacks several key controls. Swapping in the stock settings.apk can help to do things like install third party keyboards or access account and sync settings. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14566837&postcount=331.
Games: Popcap-Peggle and Plants vs Zombies. I have not found any kernel that plays these games consistently other than one specific one for Froyo:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128866 .
Usability: The handy little cursor location tab in GB and HC is hard to live without once you have used it.
Touch screen: I have found that it is most responsive to touch on honeycomb roms, for whatever reason.. Just anecdotal, nothing i really tested.
A note of personal preference: I have had my gtab for 6 months and still not found a ROM I am totally happy with. I am on a customized version of TnT at this point, and I am about as happy as I can be. I have developed a real affinity for the TnT status bar. I like that it is a little bigger, and easier to press the buttons on. It is easy enough to swap over the standard settings app when you need to use it, as long as you have root. The only thing lacking from my perspective is wifi location and that handy cursor.
Also this is a great thread. Maybe I only think so because I have never found that "perfect" rom. Keep the discussion going and maybe someone will put together a ROM that finally hits the nail on the head...
Personally I would go with vegan ROM the newest version which ever that one maybe, I right now am still on vegan tab Beta 5.1 and I haven't had a single force close or shut down yet.
ant667 said:
...and I haven't had a single force close or shut down yet.
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You must have very few apps
tsukaza said:
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC kerne[email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
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I've got a g-tab from my friend and he wants me to flash a new ROM on it..
I see it appears that there isn't a "perfect" ROM that fully works. My question is simply which ROM is the most reliable/stable/fully featured?? I need the camera to work for sure.
I don't wanna try multiple different roms and would like someone to share their experience with the different roms and recommend me a ROM.
Thanks.
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MechAniX.one said:
Go with one of the Honeycomb roms. Just add Opera and Flash and you wont regreat it. Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down. Im currently using Honeycomb and now that Ive figured it out Im really liking it. Its got more eye candy then the Froyo rom.
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Have you gotten Flash video to work on it?
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Have you gotten Flash video to work on it?
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would like to know this as well. i may be missing a step, but i've downloaded opera and the new version of flash and can't get this to work. (set the agent to desktop btw)
Until then, i'm sticking to froyo (Calk+Clem Combo V5) with VTL Launcher. The VTL Launcher gives me HC-like bells and whistles with the stability of Froyo.
gTabComb - camera app
Has anyone been able to fix the camera issue on this ROM?
I have build number GTabComb_b3.3_bl1.2
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I've just picked up a gTab on eBay for quite a nice price, but it turns out that there are way more ROMs and developers for this gadget than I'd originally realized. I bought it with price-to-performance ratio in mind, my main goals being PDF reading on the go, Skype calls, light browsing, and maybe some emulation (can't get enough N64!). I bought the gTab knowing that there would be trade-offs, but it seems like some of the current ROMs have most things sorted out (even if the ROMs themselves are based on the outdated Froyo). My problem is that there are just so many ROMs, and it doesn't seem like there's a general consensus as to which one's "best" for performance.
So can anyone recommend a ROM based on what I'm looking for? I've read through the threads for most of the popular ones, including the Clemsyn + Calkulin release, Clemsyn + Beasty, Mountain Laurel, FrankenTAB, etc. etc. So far I haven't even been able to find the major differences between C/C and C/B, or what the new features of the newer ROMs are--only that they support a number of fixes for previous problems (and it seems like all of them support all of the fixes?).
Does any one ROM support "everything"? A snappy UI, low rate of app crashes, good hardware acceleration, proper battery life, Skype video calls, etc.? Or is it all a matter of trade-offs and opinions?
Edit: I didn't start this thread in the QA section because most of those threads looked more technical in nature. I apologize if this is in the wrong section.
I have tried most all of them that you mention and I like Beastly-Clemsyn the best,especially for what you are looking for. It is very fast and stable, can overclock but doesn't really even need it. Skype works, flash, everything except USB mouse, but that is caused by the Netflix fix and can be reverted if you would rather have a mouse than Netflix. Some games are a little touchy but they always are on the gtab. I have Muppen64 and I overclock when playing N64 games for better performance but it works well and works with my Wiimote over bluetooth. Flash, video and streaming work well and so on.
The older Roms can often be "updated". For example, I have one tablet with Beastly, I updated the Market and other Gapps that could be, put VTL launcher on and customize lock screen, did some light custom theme work and tweaking, installed Clemsyn's kernel and it's like a brand new rom.
I haven't tried Frankentab yet but I have it downloaded just haven't had a chance. I think it still has a couple bugs to work out but it looks very interesting. It is newer and actively maintained. Lots going on in the Gtab world lately, it has been great. I recommend you try a couple or a few and see what you like! My favorites are:
Froyo - Beastly-Clemsyn - Best all around ROM in my opinion
Gingerbread - Cyanogenmod 7
Honeycomb - Flashback (great looking but a few things don't work right)
ICS - to be continued ...!
DaggerDave said:
I have tried most all of them that you mention and I like Beastly-Clemsyn the best,especially for what you are looking for. It is very fast and stable, can overclock but doesn't really even need it. Skype works, flash, everything except USB mouse, but that is caused by the Netflix fix and can be reverted if you would rather have a mouse than Netflix. Some games are a little touchy but they always are on the gtab. I have Muppen64 and I overclock when playing N64 games for better performance but it works well and works with my Wiimote over bluetooth. Flash, video and streaming work well and so on.
The older Roms can often be "updated". For example, I have one tablet with Beastly, I updated the Market and other Gapps that could be, put VTL launcher on and customize lock screen, did some light custom theme work and tweaking, installed Clemsyn's kernel and it's like a brand new rom.
I haven't tried Frankentab yet but I have it downloaded just haven't had a chance. I think it still has a couple bugs to work out but it looks very interesting. It is newer and actively maintained. Lots going on in the Gtab world lately, it has been great. I recommend you try a couple or a few and see what you like! My favorites are:
Froyo - Beastly-Clemsyn - Best all around ROM in my opinion
Gingerbread - Cyanogenmod 7
Honeycomb - Flashback (great looking but a few things don't work right)
ICS - to be continued ...!
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I'm definitely going to have to experiment with a few different releases. What makes you pick Beastly-Clemsyn over the Calkulin-Clemsin? And do you know if the Beastly-Clemsyn setup has the same .gif image bug as the C+C setup? Also, what kind of frame rates are you getting out of N64 games?
Shame about the mouse, but I guess I can live with that. Are there no configurations that have everything working including the mouse and netflix?
FrankenTAB is the one for me after trying many, many of them. Smooth, fast and everything works well. Zero crashes in the months I have ran it.
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jhermit said:
FrankenTAB is the one for me after trying many, many of them. Smooth, fast and everything works well. Zero crashes in the months I have ran it.
Sent from my FrankenTAB using Tapatalk
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Were you able to get .gifs to render properly in browsers other than Opera?
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I'm definitely going to have to experiment with a few different releases. What makes you pick Beastly-Clemsyn over the Calkulin-Clemsin? And do you know if the Beastly-Clemsyn setup has the same .gif image bug as the C+C setup? Also, what kind of frame rates are you getting out of N64 games?
Shame about the mouse, but I guess I can live with that. Are there no configurations that have everything working including the mouse and netflix?
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Okay I did some testing for you. I did not visit every web page but all the .gif image sites I went to rendered all the animated images just fine. I used DolphinHD and stock browsers to test (the ones that had problems with .gifs on C&C). Some basic Muppen64 testing:
Mario Kart 64 - OC=1336 - average 29 fps, 24-32 fps, very little/no stutter, playable
007 - OC=1336 - average 29 fps, 16-34 fps, very little/no stutter, playable
Super Smash Bros. - OC=1336 - average 34 fps, 25-50 fps, very little/no stutter, playable
Mario Kart 64 - No OC - average 24 fps, 18-28 fps, stutter and some lag, playable (barely)
007 - No OC - average 18 fps, 11-24 fps, lag and stutter, not very playable
Super Smash Bros. - No OC - average 24 fps, 14-47 fps, little lag/stutter, playable (not as smooth)
As you can see overclocking makes a big difference on emulators like Muppen64. I just crank it up to 1336 with SetCPU while using it and turn it back down when I am done (my gtab does not like to be overclocked!).
I chose Beastly over Caulkin for the following reasons: the .gif bug not reported in Beastly (not really a big deal), no market fix is required, Skype and Netflix both work without additional fixing, and I have never had a random crash, force close errors or SOD (until this morning anyway, I left it overclocked after testing and it was not happy when I tried to wake it back up. Oops!)
As far as I know there is no rom that is 100% working rom, including the stock rom. I believe you choose either working usb mouse and gsensor, or you can have Skype and Netflix, but the fix for one breaks the other. I don't care to use a usb mouse, but I do use a usb keyboard and it works fine. Like I said though you should definitely try a couple and see what works best for you. The difference between C&C and Beastly is they are ports of different roms built for other tablets. Read through the threads to find the fine details. I know it's a lot to read but it's better to read first and have fewer surprises later.
Thanks for the testing, DaggerDave. I'll have to try both FrankenTAB and C+B and see which one ends up working the best. Are there higher OCs than 1300 MHz?
It looks like the ICS rom that teamDRH is working on will be the undisputed champion by the time it's out of Beta, so I'm very excited for that.
_anony said:
Were you able to get .gifs to render properly in browsers other than Opera?
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I use Dolphin and have not had any problems displaying any pictures or flash.
_anony said:
Are there higher OCs than 1300 MHz?
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Yes depending on the kernel that is used in the rom, or installed by you, you can OC up to 1600. Clemsyn just released recently new kernels here and at another tablet forum.
It looks like the ICS rom that teamDRH is working on will be the undisputed champion by the time it's out of Beta, so I'm very excited for that.
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Me too. So far I have resisted the temptation to try it out (just like FrankenTab), only because I haven't had the time yet. Looks like it will be great once some of the bugs are worked out and more apps are fixed to work with ICS.
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Yes depending on the kernel that is used in the rom, or installed by you, you can OC up to 1600. Clemsyn just released recently new kernels here and at another tablet forum.
Me too. So far I have resisted the temptation to try it out (just like FrankenTab), only because I haven't had the time yet. Looks like it will be great once some of the bugs are worked out and more apps are fixed to work with ICS.
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Looks like ICS should blow Froyo roms out of the water once the kinks are worked out.
I do have one last question for you: If I have to sacrifice USB mouse for Netflix/Skype, do I also sacrifice bluetooth mouse/keyboard support?
Yea with working hardware acceleration, and eventually overclocking and more time to develop I can definitely see ICS becoming better than the Froyo roms. I love the Honeycomb UI but it was never fully developed, ICS will have the best of both.
I believe the Skype/Netflix fix effects the mouse orientation (moving mouse up goes right, right goes down, down goes left, etc). Probably regardless of weather the mouse is usb or bluetooth. Usb and bluetooth keyboards should work as long as the bluetooth version is supported by the Gtab. Some bluetooth keyboards have been reported not to work like the ones designed for the Asus Transformer I don't think they will work below Android 3.? just check before you buy one.
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I have tried most all of them that you mention and I like Beastly-Clemsyn the best,especially for what you are looking for. It is very fast and stable, can overclock but doesn't really even need it. Skype works, flash, everything except USB mouse, but that is caused by the Netflix fix and can be reverted if you would rather have a mouse than Netflix. Some games are a little touchy but they always are on the gtab. I have Muppen64 and I overclock when playing N64 games for better performance but it works well and works with my Wiimote over bluetooth. Flash, video and streaming work well and so on.
The older Roms can often be "updated". For example, I have one tablet with Beastly, I updated the Market and other Gapps that could be, put VTL launcher on and customize lock screen, did some light custom theme work and tweaking, installed Clemsyn's kernel and it's like a brand new rom.
I haven't tried Frankentab yet but I have it downloaded just haven't had a chance. I think it still has a couple bugs to work out but it looks very interesting. It is newer and actively maintained. Lots going on in the Gtab world lately, it has been great. I recommend you try a couple or a few and see what you like! My favorites are:
Froyo - Beastly-Clemsyn - Best all around ROM in my opinion
Gingerbread - Cyanogenmod 7
Honeycomb - Flashback (great looking but a few things don't work right)
ICS - to be continued ...!
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How'd you update your google apps on the Beasty 2.2 rom? This oudated version of Calendar is driving me nuts.
I don't use Calendar, but others like the market, maps and search I had to either download them and install with ES File Explorer, or uninstall them and reinstall (either from the market or side loading). Some versions will not work, so you have to find ones that do. The newest Market 3.4.4 (?) is working, newest Gmail works but the latest Voice Search and Maps do not. You will have to find the older versions (Maps < v6 works) and test them till you find what works. Have you tried going to the apps (Calendar for example) in the market to try to update them? I think I updated Gmail that way, it didn't show an update in 'My Apps' but it did when I searched for it.
Search for "axleration .apk downloads" for a list of 5 good sites that offer free .apks. Or a google search for a specific .apk will give you more results. Or if you are desperate, I have downloaded newer roms before and extracted the .apks from them (stick to same android version).
Everyone needs to start demanding camera drivers, the rest has been worked out.