[Q] 3e Recovery - temp root fail - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Needing some help with 3eRecovery. I understand every thread I've read on how to do these things, but it doesn't work the way everyone says. Explanation below.
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I'm definitely rooted... have superuser and test with Terminal Emulator. su works fine. Even tested root with Titanium Backup. It works.
Trying to install 3e recovery, to get CWM3, to get KA6+voodoo kernel. 3e recovery installer fails root check every time.
From what I've read, if you're already permanently rooted, the modified 3e recovery installer would stop checking for temporary root. This is clearly not the case here. I've even tried running SuperOneClick to shell-root the device, which it succeeds at, but this does not change any results from the 3e recovery installer.
I have even used Odin3 to start from scratch on the machine, taking it all one step at a time, back from the original Eclair ROM+KRNL, Kies upgrade to KA6, SuperOneClick.
oh, and yes, I've tried installing the KA6 stock+voodoo kernel through Odin. Odin says it succeeds, the phone reboots, but there is no difference. I've installed the Voodoo Control app, but it shows that there's no Ext4 conversion. Am I doing something wrong? Is my phone doing something weird?
I really wanna get rid of the rfs system. absolutely hating it. There are two images attached proving root and showing results of 3eRecovery
I'm obviously studying the XDA Vibrant Bible, but here's some other links I'm using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870480

Did you try reboooting into recovery to see if you have it properly installed?

definitely have... plus it fails at the temp root check, would it do that if the 3eRecovery were installed properly? I'd think it'd fail later.
and yes, I've tried installing CWM3 through Rom Manager a couple of times after attempting the 3eRecovery, and the "install package" choice repeats and repeats and repeats, I never see the CWM Recovery.

Is it telling you there's no more room in /system? Remove a bloat app like Slacker Radio to free up some space if you haven't already. Good luck!
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.

no... I saw that message once a while back, before I restored to original krnl and rom, the jfd one I think. but since I did that and started from scratch, this is the first problem I've run into.
Q: if I use the 512 pit file with the KA6+voodoo krnl tar found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870480) in Odin v.1.7, shouldn't that accomplish the same thing as cracking the recovery and using CWM to load up the zip version? when I try to use the Odin version, nothing changes? is that what you mean when you ask if my /system is full?
I'll remove some apps (i use Slacker) like Ads to Home, T-Mobile TV, etc. I'll let you know if Odin works any better. but I don't anticipate anything changing.

She issue here. CWM won't install, even after a supposed 3e flash.
-bZj
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down8 said:
She issue here. CWM won't install, even after a supposed 3e flash.
-bZj
XDAapp
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except mine won't even let me flash the 3e.
fail.

Did you enable usb debugging?
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yep. absolutely.
Lol. I tried replying with just "yes," but there's a ten character minimum to posts. Ha (easily amused here)

Repartition choice in Odin
For others suffering this and other seemingly unfathomable problems with a Galaxy S phone... reset phone to official/full/original ROM+KRNL (JFD in my case) and use the re-partition choice in Odin. after I did that, I rerooted with SuperOneClick, installed a Terminal Emulator, and manually removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
Don't know which one of these fixed it, but the 3eRecovery installer worked after that... I downloaded the ROM Manager again, did the CWM that is included with that, had to click "reinstall packages" twice, but then it worked.
Thanks for the tip Droidificator. Don't know for sure if it's it, but I'm sure it didn't hurt.
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lol... great irony in all of this is that Kies updated my phone to KB5 instead of KA6, so now I'm looking at using OCLF for the ext2 tools for now.
any advice on where to go from here to have the most efficiency out of this phone from the KB5?

make sure that a current version of busybox is installed. i had an issue with this when i ODIN'd back to stock and re-rooted. good luck with everything!

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JI6 + oclf + Voodoo = Death [ANSWERED]

I seem to be at a bit of a cross road here, hopefully posting this story can give me some direction, as I see people with similar problems elsewhere, but not on XDA.
After getting the JI6 upgrade on stock, it took out OCLF, when i did it update, none of the setting where available. So when I redid OCLF, i could not up to the new OCLF and could not undo the old one. However voodoo5 was available, and seeing the reports on that voodoo5 was the bees knees. So I ran it (stupidly. It went though the motions, heard the voice prompts saying the steps, and said it was Completed. I knew the first boot up took some- what I would get is
Stuck on Black Vibrant screen, would hear T-Mo boot up sound, but would never progress after 20 - 30 minutes
Reading the Forum, (Use that search button) using the steps specifically in this post: [TUTORIAL][ROM] How to fix your phone and apply the update --- to achieve what i heard that had success stories with using Odin to restore to restore JI6 update after this kind of error. Well here is where I am at:
I can get into recover mode and boot loader
I get Vibrant, Tmobile screen, hear the tmobile tone, and then see the galaxy S screen
I then get an all black screen where the buttons on the bottom (home, back etc) light up, and will turn off when i touch them and then come back on
And that's it. I get nothing, a big blank screen. And I am unsure where to go... any advice would be helpful on how to get a full recovery. No longer worried about my data, just want to get my phone back up and running by any means.
buggzero said:
I seem to be at a bit of a cross road here, hopefully posting this story can give me some direction, as I see people with similar problems elsewhere, but not on XDA.
After getting the JI6 upgrade on stock, it took out OCLF, when i did it update, none of the setting where available. So when I redid OCLF, i could not up to the new OCLF and could not undo the old one. However voodoo5 was available, and seeing the reports on that voodoo5 was the bees knees. So I ran it (stupidly. It went though the motions, heard the voice prompts saying the steps, and said it was Completed. I knew the first boot up took some- what I would get is
Stuck on Black Vibrant screen, would hear T-Mo boot up sound, but would never progress after 20 - 30 minutes
Reading the Forum, (Use that search button) using the steps specifically in this post: [TUTORIAL][ROM] How to fix your phone and apply the update --- to achieve what i heard that had success stories with using Odin to restore to restore JI6 update after this kind of error. Well here is where I am at:
I can get into recover mode and boot loader
I get Vibrant, Tmobile screen, hear the tmobile tone, and then see the galaxy S screen
I then get an all black screen where the buttons on the bottom (home, back etc) light up, and will turn off when i touch them and then come back on
And that's it. I get nothing, a big blank screen. And I am unsure where to go... any advice would be helpful on how to get a full recovery. No longer worried about my data, just want to get my phone back up and running by any means.
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Did You Flash Something Before Disabling Voodoo? 2 Fixes to Help You Out.
So you forgot to disable the voodoo lagfix before you flashed a new rom and now you're getting an error, similar to the one posted below. Even Odin won't allow you to flash back to stock. Well, pay close attention and with some luck, you'll be good as rain...or something like that.
Fix 1:
1. Download Eugenes 'Froyo that does not brick' file.
2. Extract the files.
3. Open Odin, plug in your phone, then put it into download mode.
4. load the PIT file in appropriate area.
5. load the .tar file in the PDA area.
6. DO NOT check 're-partition'.
7. Click start, let it finish. Your phone will load and reboot into stock recovery. It will error out again. DONT panic! This is what's supposed to happen.
8. Now, pull your battery.
9. Download the 'True stock 2.1 firmware for the vibrant'.
10. Extract the files.
11. Once again, open Odin, plug in your phone, put into download mode.
12. Load the PIT file into the appropriate area and the .tar in the PDA area.
13. THIS TIME you want to check the 're-partition' box.
14. Now click start, let it finish, and this time your phone will load up just fine! BAM!
Fix 2: (use only if you know how to use adb commands)
1. Place the 'disable-lagfix' file in your sdk>tools directory
2. Get into clockwork recovery like you normally would
3. Follow these adb commands to push the 'disable-lagfix' file to you sdcard>voodoo
adb push disable-lagfix /sdcard/voodoo
4. File should now be on your sdcard in your voodoo folder.
5. Reboot phone and with luck, you should hear Linda the robot telling you your file system is being converted back to rfs.
6. Because your system directory has already been wiped, you'll still get a black screen when you reboot, but your file system is back to rfs. Just pull the battery, and reflash whatever rom you want. Then reboot again.
ANNNDD THE TRUUUUTHHH SHALL SET YOU FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you AMD. Following "Fix 1" Method, worked flawlessly!
Now, just to clarify, this put the phone completely back to stock? It has undone the ext2, voodoo and hoodoo nonsence? I just want to know where I stand, becuase now that I am wiped clean, there is obvious no worry of loosing data now lol. Might as well put a nice custom rom, rather than fiddiling with fixes to the stock right now.
Also, I am not yet familiar with ADB, but will read the sticky Bible thread, do you recomend that method over the 1st one? I did not install clockwork recovery, is that a perferred pre-loader to prevent these kind of issues?
buggzero said:
ANNNDD THE TRUUUUTHHH SHALL SET YOU FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you AMD. Following "Fix 1" Method, worked flawlessly!
Now, just to clarify, this put the phone completely back to stock? It has undone the ext2, voodoo and hoodoo nonsence? I just want to know where I stand, becuase now that I am wiped clean, there is obvious no worry of loosing data now lol. Might as well put a nice custom rom, rather than fiddiling with fixes to the stock right now.
Also, I am not yet familiar with ADB, but will read the sticky Bible thread, do you recomend that method over the 1st one? I did not install clockwork recovery, is that a perferred pre-loader to prevent these kind of issues?
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Your welcome and yes, you're completely back to stock and everything is gone. So you should be set. No, both methods work well and do the same. I know adb but still prefer the first method, works all the time is something goes wrong with voodoo or any lagfix.
I wouldn't say it's preferred to prevent those issues because you may still have them either way but its nice to have. You can make a backup with it so if anything goes wrong you have something to fall back on. Just makes things simpler.
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Seeing some of your other posts in the bionix fusion rom, which is what I ended up flashing to, it seems that the issue you had mentioned is that even if your moving between voodoo compatible roms, voodoo needs to be removed before.
This can be done within the handset with rom manager, using the voodoodisable.zip?
Cause ya, didn't quite understand that part till it happened. Feel pretty dumb when there is post after post of "PPL DUN FKN READ"
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buggzero said:
Seeing some of your other posts in the bionix fusion rom, which is what I ended up flashing to, it seems that the issue you had mentioned is that even if your moving between voodoo compatible roms, voodoo needs to be removed before.
This can be done within the handset with rom manager, using the voodoodisable.zip?
Cause ya, didn't quite understand that part till it happened. Feel pretty dumb when there is post after post of "PPL DUN FKN READ"
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It's simple to disable voodoo. When you have voodoo installed you should have a voodoo folder in your internal SD card, if you don't them make one. Put a file called disable-lagfix in there with no extensions. A blank file with that name. Reboot and you'll hear the.process going through of removing voodoo. Then you can flash what ever you like without any problems. If you want voodoo back delete the disable-lagfix file or rename it to enable-lagfix. Simple.
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thx for ur sharing...
i hv the same problem, it's fixed now...

Rooting the Fascinate Regardless of OS Version

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If you want to update this, My modified cwm thread has the RED clockwork odin package.
adrynalyne said:
If you want to update this, My modified cwm thread has the RED clockwork odin package.
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i think omj is going to change his op on af...ill copy that over when he does
When I get in Odin and select CWMRecovery_DJ05_DL09.tar.md5, it fails.
I did not touch any settings in Odin, just clicked PDA and selected that file.
Edit: Redownloaded that file and got it to work. I am now having an issue when applying update.zip... it starts but then comes up with an exclamation point inside of a triangle and the little Android guy... phone reboots fine.
Did you get this solved? Check out the thread at AF I had the same problem
worked like a charm..thanks!
SoCalSpecialist said:
worked like a charm..thanks!
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ok so i havent been able to find a full answer..but does this leave the device in DI01 or 05 or 09?
just by looking at the files it seems as if it goes from 05 to 09 but once in about phone>build number it reads : DI01
so im just looking for a little clarification here..just rooted my Facinate minutes ago so im still stuck in the whole mindset of the Incredible.
I tried this. Have EA28. Not sure how. Didn't install. Saw install screen on phone last night and hit cancel.
Anyway, Ran Odin, CWMRecovery_DJ05_DL09.tar.md5, reboot, blue text, apply sdcard:update.zip, switched to red text, install zip from sd card, choose zip from sd card, su-2.3.6.1+busybox1.19.zip, choose zip from sd card, DJ05_DL09_kernel.zip (plain kernel due to dl09), ran titanium backup, could not acquire root priv.
Startup screen has sound, but not animation anymore. Installed superuser and it shows titanium backup under "allow". When I run TB, I get the error screen and below in another small screen says, "Titanium Backup has been granted superuser permissions". But can't get anywhere to backup apps. Says Root Access: Failed.
ideas?
Another thing that confused me was the red cwm says voodoo lagfix recovery v2.5.1.x. I thought you weren't supposed to use any voodoo for DL30? Not that I've made it that far due to titanium backup issue, but....
Can anyone confirm whether or not this to sure does or doesn't work with ea28? My wife updated he phone and now she wants it rooted.
Edit this does work for EA28. Everything went smoothly. Thanks nitsuj.
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mdisaac said:
When I get in Odin and select CWMRecovery_DJ05_DL09.tar.md5, it fails.
I did not touch any settings in Odin, just clicked PDA and selected that file.
Edit: Redownloaded that file and got it to work. I am now having an issue when applying update.zip... it starts but then comes up with an exclamation point inside of a triangle and the little Android guy... phone reboots fine.
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I also got stuck at the same screen. what did you do to resolve it????
Here is the link to my guide for rooting with a MAC. I do not have a PC and used these steps to successfully root my phone. After completing last step in guide and getting blue cwm on your phone, DL new red cwm and install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967641
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EA28 going to DL09?
Hello..
I am just getting around to rooting my fascinate now. I have EA28. From the instructions, it appears you are going back to DL09. Is that correct? What is the significance of that? Should I care?
Thanks in advance!
This thread is old and should be deprecated. The directions still work, but you need to use the Odin package of ClockworkMod in this thread (it's the very first item linked) instead of the md5 file (DL05_DJ09) above.
However, if you're going custom the thing you should *really* do is Odin in one of the full-Froyo packages. This will include both root and recovery.
s44 said:
This thread is old and should be deprecated. The directions still work, but you need to use the Odin package of ClockworkMod in this thread (it's the very first item linked) instead of the md5 file (DL05_DJ09) above.
However, if you're going custom the thing you should *really* do is Odin in one of the full-Froyo packages. This will include both root and recovery.
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Thanks S44. My goal is to go froyo, but I need to be rooted first in order to do that.
I have been reading all the threads but many of them are very long. The DL30 thread is over 50 pages long.
So should I:
1) follow the instructions in this thread but use the new ClockworkMod then
2) update to froyo.
What is the most current thread for updating to froyo on the fascinate while after I am rooted?
Appreciate it.
TheTinRam said:
Thanks S44. My goal is to go froyo, but I need to be rooted first in order to do that.
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Actually, no you don't. Download mode is magic. You *do* need to be rooted to back up apps with Titanium, if you want to do that. In that case, follow the directions above (with the new recovery). Then back up your user apps + app data.
Whether or not you do this, you should move to Froyo with a full-Odin package. Download the ROM you want (either Nameless, Super Clean, or whatever) in zip form to your SD card. Follow the directions here (under "Most Thorough Method of Fixing Every Problem You Might Have") using the first two files here and the recovery I mentioned in my previous post. Yes, this is sort of overkill, but better to avoid stuff like corrupted dbdata from the beginning and not have to fix it later.
You might want to wait a day or so because it looks like jt is finally fixing up Clockwork.
EDIT: I read almost all of the 52 pages of the DL30 thread to realize that DL30 is out of date . I guess Its going to be EB01 or Superclean. Do you know if Superclean has the audio out via USB working for the docks?
I have some questions in regards to picking ROMs:
I am a little confused in where to find the latest versions. For example in the "most thorough me..." thread, there is a link to super clean version form 3/30/2011 yet wiki has super clean from last year. Where can I look at all the ROMs and descriptions?
Which froyo ROM would you recommend? I love Google's stock froyo, but I also want to use the fascinate's USB audio out on the car and desktop dock. I also would like to wifi tether.
Thanks again!
This post had a link to download ODIN but it was removed. Could you please provide that link again. It also had a link to "Samsung Drivers", don't I need that too?
I am going to take a shot at following the ""Most Thorough Method..." steps tomorrow morning and install superclean on my Facinate. Quick Q: In step one, it simply says to ODIN EB01. I can just do this without being rooted?
Also, you said jt is fixing up clockwork. What do you mean by this, what exactly does not work?
I know these are noob questions, but I am just starting out with this.
Thanks
Driver links are here. Odin is here.
Yes, download mode lets you Odin in complete firmware packages without root.
Most people are using Super Clean, so that has the most support (and themes), but there are some odd issues floating around with it. My guess is that a lot of those issues have to do with not cleaning up in the super-thorough way I'm suggesting, and with the permissions bug after flashing a theme (below). There's also navendrob's EC10-based "Nameless" ROM, and ahmgsk's DL30-based "TrulyFascinating" ROM. Nameless is good but he's about to drop a version 4 with a lot of fixes, so you might wait a day or so for that. TrulyFascinating seemed to be pretty good (heavily stability-tested), but he hasn't updated it in a while (busy with more recent Epic leaks, I guess). You might try running it with one of the state-of-the-art EC10 Voodoo kernels.
There are a couple of Clockwork bugs, but the one causing the most current problems is that the old one couldn't fix permissions properly. This causes issues after making a change to the /system after the initial ROM flash, generally when you flash a theme on top of it. The new one I linked above *can* fix permissions, but still requires you to manually mount /dbdata beforehand (actually, go to the "mounts and storage" submenu and make sure /system /dbdata and /data are all mounted -- that is, the option referring to them says "unmount", which will happen when they're mounted -- before you go to the "advanced" submenu and run the fix permissions script). The new new one coming soon will just fix it without a problem, and do other stuff too.
Once again thanks. I have everything I need....or so I thought.
I restored my phone to factory, loaded the drivers, fired up ODIN and added the PDA and PIT. I hit start.... nothing happens. "All threads complete, succeed 0 / failed 0"
Looks like I am missing something. Do I need to somehow tell ODIN where the phone is? I don't see a way to do that.
PS in step 4 its states "ODIN the CWM Recovery package ROM from this post". Does CWM bin file go into PDA or phone in ODIN?
I one again apologize for my noobiness.
The Clockwork step comes after you do the full package and boot with that.
Make sure you have Odin open *before* you connect the phone in download mode.

[Q] Options in the reboot menu

I have rooted my Vibrant using ROM Manager/Flash CWM Recovery. (I'm running 2.2, Kernel 2.6.32.9, Build FROYO.UVKA6.) I used this method because no matter what folder on the external or internal sd card I could not use the 'reinstall packages' option on the reboot screen. Now, I'm trying to place the Bionx or Nero ROMs on my phone, but can't get anything to install no matter what I do.
I don't think I anything wrong with the root because I kept getting the same 'E:signature verification failed Installation aborted' message everyone else seems to be getting. I'm wondering if Samsung/T-Mo didn't put anything in to prevent rooting and adding new ROMs.
I have rebooted my phone multiple times and have not gotten any results. Along with ROM Manager, I have Busybox installed.
Please feel free to ask questions for more details. I'm a noob to rooting, so I definitely allow for the fact that I might have screwed something up and will need to start over.
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PrimeNemesis said:
I have rooted my Vibrant using ROM Manager/Flash CWM Recovery. (I'm running 2.2, Kernel 2.6.32.9, Build FROYO.UVKA6.) I used this method because no matter what folder on the external or internal sd card I could not use the 'reinstall packages' option on the reboot screen. Now, I'm trying to place the Bionx or Nero ROMs on my phone, but can't get anything to install no matter what I do.
I don't think I anything wrong with the root because I kept getting the same 'E:signature verification failed Installation aborted' message everyone else seems to be getting. I'm wondering if Samsung/T-Mo didn't put anything in to prevent rooting and adding new ROMs.
I have rebooted my phone multiple times and have not gotten any results. Along with ROM Manager, I have Busybox installed.
Please feel free to ask questions for more details. I'm a noob to rooting, so I definitely allow for the fact that I might have screwed something up and will need to start over.
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This is because you are now on 2.2. Samsung patched the exploit from 2.1 that allowed cwm recovery to be flashed. The best thing I can tell you to do since you have root would be to either
A) ODIN down to 2.1 ROM then root again, then install rom manager and from there you can install cwm recovery OR
B) Use this method I posted based on Supercurios voodoo kernels found here:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsung-Vibrant/on-steps-to-flash-Bionix-V-1-2/m-p/720803#M5807 (look for the answer marked solution - and because you have root skip ONLY that part and download the proper supercurio's zip not the tar).
Supercurio's vibrant kernels found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870480
Do this before you try anything else, this is your quickest and least painful solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
Then:
When you boot into recovery and hit Reinstall Packages, the phone might reboot back into recovery, Reinstall Packages again and it will take you to the mod recovery, no more sig. verification.
Congrats!
Thanks.....
roumenjr and mavsfan.
I was able to get the root done. I took roumenjr's suggestion and it worked once I figured out that I was placing the ROMs in the wrong folder.
Now running Bionix Obsidian v2.
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[Q] Clockwork recovery won't boot.

I gained root access through superoneclick gingerbreak. It gave me the superuser app and i downloaded rom manager but whenever i try to get to clockwork recovery mode it keeps going to samsung recovery. No matter how many times I hit re-install packages it goes back to the samsung recovery. What did I do wrong? Should I have gained root another way? Should I try to flash back to 2.1? Please help I'm so frustrated.
first off dont use gingerbreak. Just odin back to stock and then root by installing the update package twice and after twice ur recovery should turn blue to green.
here follow this, use the eclair root guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9375927
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I gained root access through superoneclick gingerbreak. It gave me the superuser app and i downloaded rom manager but whenever i try to get to clockwork recovery mode it keeps going to samsung recovery. No matter how many times I hit re-install packages it goes back to the samsung recovery. What did I do wrong? Should I have gained root another way? Should I try to flash back to 2.1? Please help I'm so frustrated.
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no modded 3e recovery..so it will keep going to Stock recovery. You need to do what movie said or flash a voodoo kernel or flash a modded 3e recovery.
Interestingly enough I have the same problem, 100% rooted, super user access no issue, busy box installed, root manager installed.
I upgraded the 2.1 to 2.2 from the kies mini software.
I have been doing a ton of reading and would like to start flashing roms, etc etc.
Through titanium backup, I have un-installed a large mount of apps and have not suffered any problems as of yet, but would like to try some custom roms.
My question is, since I uninstalled alot of things, only apps that are bloatware, and since I can't get my clockwork recovery console to take affect, do I have to follow post #2?
Is this link the right one taken out of the link from post #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047087
Is this the final and correct link, since I do not store data on my phone, and all contacts are on my sim card, and really haven't done any customizations to anything really, can I just odin back and not back anything up? All I use my phone for is calls, txt's and internet, I don't bookmark anything, I don't save txts and call logs mean nothing to me?
I assume I will have to re-root my phone again and do the same procedures, etc etc.
Also as a side note, I am a minimalist type of person, that's why I use linux at home, no windows of any kind (I'll do this procedure at work). Any roms out there that can handle my needs of simply calls, txt'ing and internet without all the other stuff? I don't use GPS, I don't facebook or social network, I don't play games on my phone. I do need however, the use of the camera and video recorder.
Thanks.
I would just follow my advice and odin back to stock its really easy and safe to do. Well if the only apps u have left are bloatware and u dont save anything else i guess u wont need to back anything up before odin. Well the thing its alot easier to root 2.1 then 2.2.
Once ur at 2.1 just do the root process of installing update package twice and after twice ur recovery will turn from blue to green.
follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9375927
the eclair guide
heres the steps for download mode just in case:
power off phone
pull out battery
turn on odin
attach phone to pc with usb cable
now while holding down both volume buttons put battery back in.
now you should be in download mode and go back to stock with odin from here!
make sure u put the proper .pit and .pda file in there proper places on odin and ur set to go.
Enjoy and also make sure u have the proper samsung drivers
So, is this the right link from the guide you posted, it's amazing, I read so many things today that It's easy to get a little well, brain farty, ya know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047087
Also, I have the kies mini drivers installed, that's how I updated from 2.1 to 2.2 so I assume those will work fine?
BTW, this is the coolest community, props to all involved!!!
Now, I edited my post I think while you were replying, any rom suggestions for a simple user who likes minimal applications but just a well running phone that's not clogged to the gills with stuff?
good noob friendly rom is bionix 1.3.1!
movieaddict said:
good noob friendly rom is bionix 1.3.1!
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Yep, that seems to be the consensus, thank you
Guys,
A huge thanks, odin'd back to 2.1, rooted, removed the bloatware I didn't want, gonna make a nandroid back, then proceed on to bionix.
I can understand how first time users can get nervous but once done, the process really is not that hard, just takes patience and making sure everything is prep'd before doing so.
I hope I can now help others if you guys don't beat me to it first
My only question is this: when I create my nandroid backup, where does it go and do I need to save it somewhere just in case like a usb key or something along those lines or does it reside on the phone. Only asking cause I have not yet done this step
U can always make a extra backup and store them on ur ext sd
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Okay, so I assume the backup, made from rom manager "backup current rom" gets stored to the internal memory on the phone?
Any special settings or it just does it's thing, should be smaller than normal as I removed quite a bit of junk and stuff.
i did what you said and i still cant get into clockwork recovery screen! i went back to stock rom, reinstalled packages twice and i still have samsung recovery. i know i have root because i get the super user asking me to give clockwork root access!
So I assume you odin'd back to 2.1, rooted have installed titanimum backup and busy box, rom manager, tapped the flash clockworkmod recovery, then "reboot in recovery" choose update. I rebooted via the rom manager menu, not via the phone itself. I had to update twice immediately, didn't reboot and do it again. I saw it installing and it kinda hung, then used the volume down to update again, and was completed.
Also after installing titanium there was an update for super user, which I also installed as well. Did you do this? Not sure if it has any bearing but thought it was worth mentioning.
It worked seamlessly for me, I had to update twice, then purple turned to green and all is well.
Can you post your steps you took to get back to 2.1, how you rooted, etc etc?
It's kinda fresh in my mind as I only did it about 2 hours ago.
my screw up after i flashed clockwork and rebooted i didnt apply package. all is good now. thx for all the info!
Anytime, I found the process to be quite interesting and taught me alot and also removed my fear of installing new roms and such.
Make sure to create your backup through rom manager. When you do, it will reboot into clockwordrecovery and show you the progress, didn't take that long for mine but I removed alot of nonesense from 2.1. This will be your emergency fall back, you might know this already but just making sure, as I am quite a noob at this point ROFL!
Enjoy
ps - I still can't decide on a new rom, I'm so fussy about stuff, ugh.

[Q] Difficulty changing ROMs

For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
sigmtndawg said:
For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
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If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
To test root, simply open terminal emulator (free in market) and type "su" (no parentheses). It will notify you of a superuser request.
find an odin package for the baseband you want like EB01, EC01, ED01, etc (I use an all in one complete deodexed and debloated EB01 package myself) and the newest CWM 3. Odin them both, boot straight into cwm, wipe data/cache/dalvik, install the .zip rom of your choice from sd card and reboot phone. Should work fine, its the way I've done it and I've had few if any problems
edit: most roms like SuperClean, Evil, ComRom, etc are already rooted so there's no need to do anything special to gain root. the hardest part is flashing it correctly
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
sigmtndawg said:
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
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Do not use ROM manager at all for anything on the fascinate.
The correct way to flash on fascinate: Download ROM .zip file and place on the root directory or your sd card. Boot into CWM and wipe data/cache/ dalvik cache (dalvik is under advanced) choose install zip from sd card. Install and reboot. First reboot will take 5-10 minutes, so be patient.
Hope this helps.

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