I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
Pexcer,
It all depends on what you want. That's what the choices XDA offers here are all
about.
When we started with G-Tablets back last fall, the software was so bad it was
almost unfunctional. It has improved with each update. With 4349 installed you
can put your apps on it and have a functional tablet -- but whether it is good enough
for you is your call.
There are a number of alternate ROMs and each has it assets and liabilities.
The only way I know to approach it is to read the threads related to each rom and
see what those advantages and disadvantages are. You can eliminate some that way.
And whatever you have left, you will just have to try and see what you like.
I know this is not the "Go use the _______________ rom" that a lot of people will
give you -- but I'm not pandering for anybody's rom. I believe everyone should
research, try and make their own choice.
Rev
Pexcer said:
I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
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I'm more inclined to go with the fastest rom I can get my hands on. I don't care about looks. And stock rom will never be able to fun as fast as custom rom.
That said, you should make this decision on your own. Depends on what you want. If you are like my brother in law who wants everything to be official and fully officially supported, then I suggest you stay with the stock upgraded rom. If you're like me who doesn't care that it's the official release and would rather have a super fast tablet, then custom rom is definitely the way to go.
In another thread, I was endorsing the new calk/clems combo v3, which my quadrant test resulted in 4081. I've posted a picture in this post. Right now, the only thing that seems to be faster than this is the modded xoom, which is only about 80 more. I highly doubt the stock rom will ever be able to give us this much power.
Thanks for the response. I may try the stock UI for a few days when I get it. I have been having difficulty in really seeing the differences between the different ROMs out there though. One thing I plan to do a lot is watch TV shows I've downloaded from TVtorrents, these are 720p x264 in an MKV, is there one mod that can handle Video like that or is that a non issue. I can also grab non HD formats which would have a higher chance of working, but would rather not.
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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Torrents blows goats. their download speeds are as fast as my original G Tab os. File Hosting is the way to roll.
Off my soapbox, I agree with goodintentions. Speed and stability is the key. after that, ADW, 3D Launcher, VTLauncher and a few other Home screen launchers can customize your experience. let us know how yours runs. I won't go that route until the ROM's for it (1.2) are out and stable.
I don't have the newest update that just came out, so I can't comment on that. But I can mention why I went back to the stock ROM. I got my g tablet when woot was selling them. I left the stock rom on for a week and it worked pretty well as a shared device between me and my wife. The stock apps let you keep separate accounts. I put on clockwork and formatted the drive as recommended, then I tried TNT lite, g harmony, and cyanogen. They make your tablet like a big phone. When you sign in to the google apps, all you contacts, calendar, and emails are imported. This didn't work so well as a shared tablet. I decided to leave clockwork mod and the recommended formatting but put the original ROM back on. With the proper formatting, the thing isn't too bad. Probably not as fast as some of the folks here would like, but it serves our purpose as a shared device.
Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
Try a bunch of ROMs
I agree with enigma. I got my Gtablet last week and immediately updated hoping that the new stock ROM was good enough. It isn't. It's slow and "chunky" plus doesn't have access to the Android market.
I've heard good stuff about the calkulin/clemsyn and Vegan. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
I'm new to Android as well so don't get too hung up on the difficulty of installing ROMs. There are very clear, step by step instructions to be found here. Each install takes maybe 15 minutes. So in an afternoon you could easily install and play with half a dozen ROMs before deciding on which you like better.
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Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
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if you need vpn, cifs then you need a custom ROM
It depends on what capabilities you want. I need VPN and COFS so I use TNTL 4.4. Also, you can install alternate keybaords. The custom ROMs also tend to fix a lot of issues.
Shame on Viewsonic for locking bootloader in the 1.2 branch.
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. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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haha, GB is good almost HC good so far.
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Hi all,
I am new to android. First time using it and really know nothing about it.
Bought the G tab at woot. I am knowledgeable with computers, so I hope that helps. Over 50, so need your help here.
I have spent a decent amount of time looking through these forums and there is so much information here, it is hard to discerne what is relevant for me.
I did the OTA update. I do not have an sd card, so all will be through the usb to my home computer.
I have played with the gtab a bit, but I figure, before I go and do a bunch of setup for the family and download apps that if I am going to root it, I may as well do it now. Those of you with experience using it don't like viewsonics version, so I assume that these ROM's must be so much better.
From this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004
it reads that if I have stock gtab, I can simply install TnTLite 4.4 without clockworkmod. I assume then that without colckworkmod, I can't clear the cache or datafiles. Do I really need nvfLASH? I read it and it sounds a bit confusing.
I read that you should repartition the gtab. I looked and can't find out how to do this. Is this before or after you run the mod?
For the market fix, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845175
I follow the link to download the zip file. When I download apps from the computer, where on the gtab do they go to unzip them?
What does sideload mean? What do you mean when you say make sure that market is working with your google id? do i need a gmail account?
On a side note, the gtab will not load up my yahoo mail account? hmmm, is that correct? My wife has an old aol account that she uses and she said she can't respond to emails, that is true also?
Thanks in advance,
Kozmokrmr
Lots of questions... let's see what we can do here...
Yes, You can setup TnTLite 4.4 without ClockworkMod. However, CWM is included in the install as part of the 3588 Recovery Pack. You can actually switch it in and out as needed for the purposes of clearing caches and wiping data.
Repartitioning is one of the advanced functions of ClockworkMod. You will not likely find it necessary unless you're doing lots of modding (or are particularly anal about procedure, like I am...).
It doesn't really matter where you download or unzip files to as long as you know where they are. I leave them in the default download folder or create a folder for the particular project on one of the sdcards. Sideloading consists of downloading an app's .apk file to the tablet then installing it without using the market. Most file managers (including the one included on the gtab) do this with a click or two.
Yes you will need a gmail account to make the market work. When you start it the first time it will ask for your gmail credentials to log in.
There is a Yahoo mail (and IM) client/app. Not sure about AOL. But either can be accessed through the web browser.
All that being said... if you are planning on using the "Family" accounts setup that comes stock on the G Tablet you'll want to try that before loading any custom ROM. They all replace the contacts app which is required for that to work. I'm not sure if any of the custom ROM's supports any kind of multi user setup.
Thank you K J Rad
To enter clockworkmod, then just use the power and volume up to access clockworkmod from 3588 update? Then do the data and cache clearing? Is clockworkmod, just a tool to do a few system functions?
Ok, then I won't worry about repartitioning.
Hmm, alright, I guess I'll just give the sideloading a go and see what happens.
About NVFlash, should I worry about it or is it only for the guys who switch out roms and play around with it? I figure, once I install a mod, other than maybe updating the rom, I won't be yanking around with it like this anymore.
Ok, then we'll get a few gmail accounts. Thanks.
The internet on the gtab wouldn't access my yahoo. Possibly I need to upgrade yahoo to the paid version to get the pop account.
The AOL account could be read, but she couldn't reply to any emails. Possibly the same problem there.
No big deal about the family accounts, we don't need them. Its not an issue.
The people here I read that have issues (not booting up, stuck in a loop, etc.) have what? done a step wrong, played around a bit too much or just one of those odd software flukes that catches some guys?
So there really is a BIG difference in the stock rom and the modded roms's, yes?
Thanks again.
Power and Volume Up enter "Recovery Mode." If ClockworkMod is installed then that is what you will get. Otherwise you'll get the stock recovery. 3588 does not install CWM. There is a very good thread "Stickied" in the development section about installing Clockwork, ROMs, etc. Once you've got that installed the instructions for installing TnTLite 4.4 and switching between the two types of recovery are in the stickied TnTLite thread. I usually do a data wipe before and after installing a ROM (it works for me... YMMV).
Knowing how to nvflash could be the difference between nirvana and complete disgust. It may never come up but if it does then you will be thrilled that you know how.
Once you have the market installed and working download a better browser. I use Dolphin HD and it works with my Yahoo account just fine (after you tinker with it's settings a bit...). Probably work fine for AOL also. If not, try Opera Mobile.
Any number of things can cause the issues you'll see posted about here. I've suffered magic number mismatch, boot loop, FC's... the whole gamut. If you get comfortable with the tools then you'll be able to recover from anything. Good practices will also lead to greater success. For example, when I'm flashing to a new ROM I do the following:
1) Cache and Data wipe.
2) nvflash to Factory install.
3) Update to 1.1-3588 build.
4) Data wipe (probably not necessary but wth...)
5) Proceed with update.
For experimental builds I modify that to include repartitioning.
Following this procedure has reduced my occurances of unexpected issues to near zero (I don't always remember to do every step...).
Yes... the custom ROMs are "Better" but better is subjective. I like TwoTapsX for its speed and stability though it does suffer from a few video artifacts from time to time. TnTLite is a good solid daily driver for the average user. VEGAn is popular with a lot of power users. Each has its tradeoffs and even the stock ROM has some advantages (easy to use custom interface, decent basic set of integrated apps, settings optimized to reduce confusing options).
Welcome and enjoy.
So I ordered a gtablet and read that flashing it will improve its performance, so I plan on doing that.
I read the guide on how to do it.
I realize each one has its good and bad points.
I am not sure what rom to use. I was going to put vegan on it as I have seen a few people recommend it. I was going through posts on the ginger edition of vegan and saw posts of people having trouble with videos. SO I am leaning towards the vegan 5.1 as people say its stable
I mainly will use the tablet to watch movies, read digital books/comics/magazines and web surf. Would vegan ginger be good pick? Seemed like people were having trouble with video.
When the tablet arrives Im assuming that I should not update it to the latest firmware? Ive seen posts about 1.2 not being compatible. Do I need to make sure I am on certain firmware to root/flash?
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One other quick question. In the tutorial it mention that when you put clockwork on you make new partition. Does this affect the external sdcard, or is it referring to internal memory?
Just want to make sure as I ordered a larger microsd card so I will wait to flash if its needed to partition.
Thanks. If anyone has any tips or tricks you could offer Id appreciate it as well.
THank you
I'll let others answer your questions since I'm fairly new myself, but I wanted to mention a couple things.
As someone that's certainly computer literate, but completely new to tablets and android, I was able to install Vegan 5.1 following the instructions here. I've been happy with it, but still learning the ropes.
My main issue came from not having a gmail.com email address. My google account was linked to a yahoo email address and that caused issues with Google Talk (which also caused issues with the android marketplace). Other than that, it was fairly painless.
all of the things you want to do, watch videos, read books, and surf the web can be done on a Stock G-tablet. If you don't like the visual appeal of the stock rom, or want to have root access to flash kernels, etc, then you'll need to flash a custom Rom.
More than likely, the G-tablet will not be on a 1.2 firmware out of hte box. Viewsonic pulled the 1.2 update a day after releasing it. The 1.2 branch of development is working under the assumption that all future updates will be of the 1.2 form. So, if you flash a 1.1 Rom now, you may need to be prepared to flash a 1.2 rom later on, if you want future official updates.
I was usuing Vegan 5.1.1, and it worked well. It was stable, I could watch videos, read books, and surf the web, just like you want to. Recently, I flashed Brilliant Corners, which is a 1.2 version of Vegan 5.1.1. It works just the same, but now I'm prepared for any future 1.2 Roms with updates that may include hardware acceleration. The only Honeycomb rom, right now, is being developed on the 1.2 development branch. It's still in the Alpha stages, but if you ever want ot check it out, you'll need to be on 1.2.
The partitioning in the instructions does refer to the internal SD card. With any Vegan rom (from what I've observed) including Brilliant Corners, you need to add a file to each folder, including the root of the external SD card if you plan on putting any music or video files on it. You need a ".Nomedia" file. If you don't have that file, for some reason, the media gets wiped occasioanlly on reboot, waking, etc.
I have never tried any of the "ginger" roms (CM7 and Veganginger) Neither have true official hardware acceleration from NVidea, which is what causes some of the video issues.
My personal opinion...since you are a new user, and have a virgin G-Tab, I would suggest that you flash a 1.2 Rom. If you like Vegan-Tab 5.1.1, then flashing Brilliant Corners gives you the same thing. It's not that hard a process, but it's more involved than just flashing a 1.1 rom. The advantage you have right now is that you are bone stock, so you're already halfway there.
Regards,
Todd
Doesnt flashing make the tablet run smoother and give you the android market so you have more apps to choose from?
I'll admit Im getting discourage from reading the forum. Seems like after you flash a rom then you have to do alot of this to get that working again afterwards. Like it will be one problem after another.
Is this the case? Or is it just that people dont post when it works only when it doesnt making it seem worse to people looking around.
I was looking around and see some posts about running nvflash first before anything else.
I tried searching for a guide on it but couldnt find one on how to make initial back-up before I start flashing.
Can anyone post the correct link?
I see other posts about clockwork recovery.
So I am not sure what to do.
Should I just follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
or should I do something more?
Don't be discouraged, the problems don't happen to everyone, and most are resolved.
If you know how to work a computer and can follow instructions you should be fine.
I got my g Tablet in april, it still had the original ROM on it, from the time I opened the packaging to the time I got VEGAN Ginger running on it was about 40 minutes, and most of that was from downloading and installing things on my windows machine, lol.
Once I got VEGAN ginger running I haven't had any major issues with it. I have full access to the Android market, the Amazon market, and the NVIDIA market.
The VEGAN ginger runs Tegra games great BTW, Dungeon defenders and GunBroz both run flawlessly.
It's definitely worth it to put a custom ROM on, and VEGAN ginger is a good choice.
If you'd like, later I'll try to put a few movies on it and play them, that's one thing I haven't done. Also I've heard theres a netflix app available, I'll try that as well.
Doesnt flashing make the tablet run smoother and give you the android market so you have more apps to choose from?
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I would say that originally customs roms made it run smoother, only becuase the original stock rom was pure garbage. As for android market fixes, you don't need a custom rom for them.
Seems like after you flash a rom then you have to do alot of this to get that working again afterwards. Like it will be one problem after another.
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It depends on the rom, I think. Some of them are still in development, so aren't the completed versions yet. I can tell you that my first flash of Vegan 5.1.1 worked flawlessly. Everything worked as I expected it when I was done flashing.
I was looking around and see some posts about running nvflash first before anything else.
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This is preventative mantainence...being comfortable with NVflash will help you in case anything goes wrong. People suggest that you are familiar with it because many times, it's the only way to recover from a soft brick.
As I mentioned before, just about everything you want to do can be done on stock firmware. Rooting your device will give you more options, like overclocking, or running custom kernels. It will also give you the option to flash the custom roms, if you ever want to. CWM will give you more recovery options, enabling you to make a backup of your system, etc.
If you find that stock firmware isn't workign up to your standards, then by all means, take the plunge and root your device, install CWM, and flash the rom of your choice.
I am new to the forum and the G Tab but have been browsing. I just got the G Tab today and wanted to pursue the Roebeets+Clemsyn's Honeycomb COMBO alpha path!
I have a few questions...
Assuming I have the 1.2 BL (4349) out of the box do I still need to re-partition the G-Tab with 2048/0MB and wipe before proceeding?
Can I skip the following steps?
1. Nvflash to 3588 STOCK DO NOT USE CWM FOR 3588
2. Do not install CWM (we need the stock recovery)
3. DO NOT INSTALL CWM (we need the stock recovery)
4. PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL CWM
5. Reboot
And start from here assuming the partition sizes are correct?
6. RENAME COMBO FILE NAME TO Update.zip
7. Move Update.zip to /sdcard folder
8. Unzip recover.zip and move recovery folder to /sdcard folder
8. Turn off
10. Press Power+Volume up then this will install Update.zip
I know I should NOT install CWM as it wont work until after I flash the ROM which I assume is included in the ROM image.
Is there anything else I need to do before proceeding? I will backup the original ROM of course.
Thanks in advance and what an excellent resource
Do you know what what alpha means? It means it's not recommended for new users. There are many things that still don't work.
That said, technically you can skip all of that. Do you even know why we recommend people to repartition to 2048/0? It's because of compatibility issues. If you don't repartition from the beginning, the system will eventually force closes everything.
I highly recommend you visit my sight. It's written for beginners.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
Yes I do know what alpha means I deal with devs all of the time. I wanted to clarify the partition sizes because it wasn't mentioned in the dev thread as most users there were already coming from previous mods. I will check out your site though and I appreciate the advice. I may be a noob to the G-Tab and Andriod but am an IT admin by trade.
Thanks!
Ok. Still, chances are you will eventually have force closing issue. And I do mean it's bad. That's why the recommendation nowadays is for people to repartition right away before they start putting their own crap into the sdcard. Partitioning erases everything in the sdcard. So, better do it now than later when you already have all your crap in there.
Agreed! I went through your sight and it was very helpful. Thanks. I didn't realize that VS kept the same partition scheme I thought maybe with 1.2 they would have made some changes for the better. But it doesn't matter I will wipe and reformat anyway. I got the G-Tab yesterday and fired it up. WOW is it slow for a dual core. My Droid X runs circles around it...
Thanks again!
Oh by the way... I configured WiFi and I dont broadcast my SSID. I setup the G-Tab for my network and but it stated "Network out of range". So I enabled the SSID and then it connected. Everything worked just fine until I turned off the SSID broadcast again. Now the G-Tab cannot states it's out of range again. Is there anyway to force it? My other Android device and iPad dont have this issue. I hate broadcasting my SSID.
Thanks!
Hey GI,
Can you verify this step from your site? In Part D after the backup you don't want to go to Install ZIP? I skipped that because it is repeated after the wipes and that made more sense...
Thanks!
Part D (flashing a 1.2 ROM)
After backup is done, ----->>>>>>go back out and select "install zip from sdcard". <<<<<<<---------
Choose "wipe data/factory reset".
Choose "wipe cache partition".
Once it's done, go back out to root menu and choose "advanced".
Choose "Wipe Dalvik Cache".
Go back out and choose "install zip from sdcard".
Go into folder "Rom" and choose the Rom that you picked from the list. Watch it install.
After ROM installation is complete, repeat steps 6 and 7 for the GAPPS file IF YOU NEED TO.
Once everything is done, go back out to root menu and choose "reboot system now".
Well, we have a rooted and ROM'd G-Tab and man it is way more snappy. Thanks again to GI for his excellent web site. The new ROM also fixed my WiFi issue
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DroidxManiac said:
Well, we have a rooted and ROM'd G-Tab and man it is way more snappy. Thanks again to GI for his excellent web site. The new ROM also fixed my WiFi issue
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Which Rom did you end up going with? My GTAB will be here Monday. I want to get rid of the stock sluggishness but I'd also like my first ROM to have full functionality , etc so I can check out the camera, videos and all that on my new device. Maybe after some playtime I'll jump to an HC beta that still has issues.
I've done plenty of modding and ROM swapping for the last year on my Cappy, Atrix, and Aria so I'm no noob. I would just like to jump right into the most feature rich, yet stable ROM on day one so I can really check out my new device.
Thanks!
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Which Rom did you end up going with? My GTAB will be here Monday. I want to get rid of the stock sluggishness but I'd also like my first ROM to have full functionality , etc so I can check out the camera, videos and all that on my new device. Maybe after some playtime I'll jump to an HC beta that still has issues.
I've done plenty of modding and ROM swapping for the last year on my Cappy, Atrix, and Aria so I'm no noob. I would just like to jump right into the most feature rich, yet stable ROM on day one so I can really check out my new device.
Thanks!
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Pretty much all froyo roms listed on my site have full functionality (HW accel, video, sound, wifi, camera, etc.). And all of them can be overclocked.
With gingerbread roms, you really need to overclock to get the same video smoothness that you see in froyo because of the lack of HW accel. This is not the developer's fault. And no, it's not my fault either. The mofos NVIDIA and VS decided to stop supporting their product a couple months after they were released.
I'd stay away from the honeycomb roms if I were you. All of them are in their alpha stages right now. Even though most functions work, there are still instability issues. They're only recommended for testers right now.
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Pretty much all froyo roms listed on my site have full functionality (HW accel, video, sound, wifi, camera, etc.). And all of them can be overclocked.
With gingerbread roms, you really need to overclock to get the same video smoothness that you see in froyo because of the lack of HW accel. This is not the developer's fault. And no, it's not my fault either. The mofos NVIDIA and VS decided to stop supporting their product a couple months after they were released.
I'd stay away from the honeycomb roms if I were you. All of them are in their alpha stages right now. Even though most functions work, there are still instability issues. They're only recommended for testers right now.
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@goodintentions. I thank you to provide your useful advice.
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Which Rom did you end up going with? My GTAB will be here Monday. I want to get rid of the stock sluggishness but I'd also like my first ROM to have full functionality , etc so I can check out the camera, videos and all that on my new device. Maybe after some playtime I'll jump to an HC beta that still has issues.
I've done plenty of modding and ROM swapping for the last year on my Cappy, Atrix, and Aria so I'm no noob. I would just like to jump right into the most feature rich, yet stable ROM on day one so I can really check out my new device.
Thanks!
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I tried three or four ROMs so far. Among them, my favorite is:
Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo Overclock at 1.5 ghz v5 (Froyo)
It is impressively fast, and the phone function works right of the box. It integrates nicely with either Google voice or Skype.
Calkulin's rom is by itself an already super fast rom. It's actually based off of the TnT. Incredible how he was able to make it work so well.
Hello, I'm a new member here. Been reading for the past few days on this forum and I have a few questions.
First of all I have my phone for a month now and I got fed up with the little internal space, so about 4 days ago I decided to Root my phone with the "upd_1.zip" file. After that I flashed the CWM4 on it and whiped my battery data.
I meanwhile bought titanium backup also and moved few not so essential apps to the sd card via titanium backup (im not sure if this creates the needed partition on the SD card or not though? do i need to do it proprerly or is it good as is?)
To get to the point:
My main problem is that the phone since it got rooted started to "forget" it's settings... mainly what bugs me is the Contacts get unlinked every time i reboot the phone, accounts get unlinked, my adw launcher forgets it's theme (this also happens without reboot), my yahoo email doesn't notify me properly, and apps in general don't seem to work properly anymore... (i also thought it might be from the app move to sd card, but i left the launcher for example on the phone, also haven't touched the contacts app...so i don't know)
How can I fix this? Will a new ROM help me fix these problems?
If yes, can you recommend me any good roms? I was looking a lot at cyanogen mod and ice cream sunday, but i cannot decide which one to get because i'm not sure which one is the most stable one of them?
What matters most for me in a rom is probably to be stable without too many bugs, to run flash if possible and to be more responsive than my current stock 2.3.3 rom. I don't really use the stock apps/gps stuff either, except maybe the youtube app, camera and the market app
My other request is please someone write down how to install a damn rom for noobs without any abreviations because the developers' install description is really vague and abstract in many cases (for the Cyanogen mod or ICSunday please)
My phone runs:
S5840XWKP6
kernel
2.6.35.7-perf-CL313173
[email protected]#1
GB.XWKPJ
Thanks, Joker
Hello Mate
Whatever custom ROM you flash to will have a bug or two but they aren't anything serious thats just the thing with custom Rom's.
Installing Rom's is very easy as long as your phone is rooted (as you have already done) and you have CWM (clockwork mod recovery tool 5.xx not 4.xx) as you have said. There is a problem with CWM 4.xx with the Galaxy Ace it tends not to work properly.
All Rom's are downloaded from links on this website, copied to your SD card as a zip file (which it's downloaded as) then applied by using the CWM tool which appears in your apps after you have installed it.
There are lots of step by step instructions of how to do this just google "how to root galaxy ace" or "how to install CWM 5" or "how to install custom ROM" do you get my drift?
I'm using custom Ice cream sunday CM7.2 from the development section of this forum. It's fast got only what you need in a Rom and has hardly any bugs.
Do some reading my friend i've flashed my phone about 50 in the 2 months i've had it just testing ROM's but i like the one i have now.
Cool, thanks for the reply mate, do u have any idea about the problem i'm having lately by losing my settings?
I was asking for the how to flash guide because of statements like these:
"then install zip
after install, go through set up then set oc if you use and any other settings then reboot."
which makes no sense to me, go through what set up and what's an OC... and what other settings?.... get my drift?
And i'm currently downloading "theMyth" rom to test out... hope it turns out, it'll be my first custom rom
If your using clock work mod 4, it's not saving anything because it doesn't work with the galaxy ace i only found out after it messed up my phone and of course the back up of my settings didn't work!
OC means over clocked cpu application, yes you can over clock the cpu just the same as a pc or laptop make it run faster etc but it's not advised unless you know what your doing or you could fry it.
You definately need CWM 5 installed before you go flashing any new roms. Also have a good read of the reviews for a ROM before you try it etc that gives you all the info you need to know if you will get on with it or not.
uhm yeah... just flashed themyth on my phone and redownloaded titanium backup and it doesn't show up on my apps list, wtf
Make sure your installing apps to your phone and not your SD card??
Also check CWM has changed to version 5xx etc.
still if i would be installing to my sd card shouldn't it show up on my app draws or whatever it's called? on market i don't have "open" option only "uninstall"
Ahh yes i had this problem. Some custom roms need google apps (gapps) installed for your phone to receive stuff from the market.
Do you see the Andriod Market App? Can you sign in?
this is what i was telling you earlier depending on whos Rom you are installing depends what things they've taken out or left in. If it's taken out you have to download some or the apps again to get other things to work.
yup... i redownloaded it from the market, but "open" wouldn't show up, luckily i had the app on my dropbox too and i managed to start the restore apps on it now, im curious what happens when restore will finish
it worked afterall, im happy atm
cool mate you will learn alot by trying different roms but the basic process for flashing is always the same.
Hi guys!
I've been reading your comments on this thread and now i have a lot of questions!:
1) I have installed 4.0.0.9 but according to cooltt it's better CWM 5.x.x, how i can install it now?
2) I thought like jokerman170 to install TheMythICS but now i seeing that he has had problems, how you solved it? Which version you downloaded?
thanks in advanced!!
u can flash it just like the 4, i don't really like this rom, looks like a stupid theme and i got 256 rating on quadrant :| wtf
i downlaoded the TheMyth beta 2 full
icsunday2 here i come
icsunday2 it's difficult to install for a newbie like me and some people have had problems with this rom.
Why TheMyth is bad?
sorry for my english
it wasn't too fast and was kinda buggy and low quality imo, ICSunday is cool, but can't really log onto my wi-fi yet, working on it now
EDIT: worked with second try, really impressed with ICS2 atm
Okay mate
Ok guys thing is installing icsunday is not tough but u didn't understand what to do.mmmmm use cwm 5 for icsunday and icsunday2 is best rom ever.
sent from my phone
plzzzz hit thanks if I helped you in any means .......
i did use the 5, cause the Myth rom upgrades it for you
Btw could you check out my other thread that i just started.... im kind of a retard...
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
everwhere
Hobox10 said:
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Check out the general section, you will find the anwser you seek. if you have any other questions there is also a search abilility..there are only about a half a dozen threads titled with the same or basically the same as yours...thanks for visiting and I hope you find all the information you need. Previous owner must unregister. the tablet from their account before u received it.and I would attempt to register it and setup your account before cash exchanges hands or contact amazon with id to verify that it has not been blackliisted already, it can either be unregistered by owner from tab then reset . Or done through ther online account..
A lot of the threads I have read seem to have people contradicting or trying to figure out what actually works or not, or is simply outdated.
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
well
lordtigger said:
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
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Well "root"has nothing to do with seperate partitions n such. root is all permission control over system.
The only way to flash anything currently is being on older os rooting,then installing safestrap which will set up alternate system and data boot path allowing you to flash a ROM separately from your factory os ,as to not disturb it. Because currently we do not have stable working fastboot for this device. As for BEST rom. In any situation is totally in one own experience and opinions. Currently there isn't any selection if u look in development section the only two that function only work on old firmware ...you can roll back to that firmware ..but also bootloader is locked tight thus the need for a "safe" type of recovery as of moment only works on older firmware also. Just.within the last couple of days have reveiled a couple of rooting options for lastest firmware so ...this tab per Amazon gives no warning nor asks permission to upgrade of firmware which unrooted a ton of people last few months...soooo no root no development....now we have root again we will get going again..Have fun and most of all be PATIENT and do not ask for ETA remember all the developers here are doing that on there FreeTime and free of pay most the time. AS FAR as rooting and adding gapps to newest firmware I heard that it has been achieved with HDXPOSED found in development and permission module . Then sideload gapps... As far as adverse effects... Like I said you will have to be patient if you want somebody else to find out bugs for you.. still to new .....due to new root releases..like last three days.
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
nope
Hobox10 said:
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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As far as I know gapps aside from gmail will not work without root and HDXposed..(fixes permissions)and as far as doing any mods to stock slot it is not advised because of very difficult if even possible recovery due to no fastboot capabilities. Check for bugs for any mods in associated threads. As far as flashing anything ,again I am not sure safestrap is functioning on latest firmware .. And there hasn't been enough time for any development because of the recent rooting capabilities.
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
yeap
Hobox10 said:
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
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Yeah I would say you just about got the idea .... If it is a brand-new unit you have a possibility that it will be on the old firmware still ... That is why they need to bypass activation skip set up . And check firmware before you hook it to any active Wi-Fi service .. And even if it does or is already updated there is now root available for the latest firmware ... It's just a question whether or not we can get anything else to work along with the latest firmware ... I would be advised if you attempt to run the OTA blocker which comes in the HDX utility you may have Wi-Fi glitches and reboots .... But like I said those bugs need to be checked for and follow through and repaired in their associated threads ... Not a new thread that only plugs up our forums but puts the helpful threads on the next page where cannot find them ... Remember there are multiple pages each forum section and some of the helpful threads have been buried on the next page due to people starting new threads with the same questions or problem... That have been resolved already... Remember reading is more informative than typing . And remember if anybody here is giving you their personal time to answer your questions and respond to your post it is courtesy here to hit the thanks button in the left lower corner of the post.End rant. thx
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