Can I flash a Kernel while still running the stock HTC ROM?
Luke
Yes .... Probably should ask questions in the general area not the development section though.
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tgallant21 said:
Yes .... Probably should ask questions in the general area not the development section though.
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+1 and the answer is yes, for the moment without exceptions, since all kernels released so far are sense compatible kernels. just be careful after slayher's aosp kernel gets released
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whats a kernel?? what.it do to the phone??? i have samsung galaxy s with t mobile im root it n my rom is bionix-V 1.2... which kernel is the best to flash??? it does matter what rom i have?? or i just can flash whatever kernel i want .... thanks a.lot guys
IMO it depends on what you like best and wether or not you intend to OC. BTW this post belongs in the vibrant general section.
I wouldn't use a kernel if you don't know what it is. It has the potential to harm your phone if you don't know what you are doing. Go through and read the threads for each kernel first imo
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birgertime said:
I wouldn't use a kernel if you don't know what it is. It has the potential to harm your phone if you don't know what you are doing. Go through and read the threads for each kernel first imo
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1000x this.
argentinito said:
whats a kernel?? what.it do to the phone??? i have samsung galaxy s with t mobile im root it n my rom is bionix-V 1.2... which kernel is the best to flash??? it does matter what rom i have?? or i just can flash whatever kernel i want .... thanks a.lot guys
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What is a kernel?
Click this link
Bionix V should have a voodoo kernel (stock injected) on it, and so far, that is the best one yet.
Unless you want to tweak your phone as to OC (Over Clocking) or wanting a UV (Under Volt).
AND BTW:
These kind of questions should be POSTED ON THE VIBRANT Q & A SECTION, ok?
One more thing, read up on all the threads that has [KERNEL] on the front of the title. Isn't it obvious? They differ. So knowledge is the key, read up on them. SEARCH!
ndwgs said:
What is a kernel?
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You should have linked here. Clear and concise is better than "figure it out through this Google search".
all right thanks a lot guys
Okay, I got my SGS2 a few days ago and have done CF root, but I am a little confused in regards to the different kernals.
Mine has the KE2 but what would happen if I used a different one like KF1?
Would just like to clear that up as I would like to try and flash a different rom and there doesn't seem to be that many that work with the KE2?
Would it hurt to flash a new rom that was designed for the KF1?
Cheers for any help in advance.
Pete
PS Sorry guys I just posted this in the wrong place. will re-post in the Q&A Section
Just flash the rom your going to use and follow the roms guidelines reffering to kernals..
If its a kf1 rom use kf1 kernal..just so everything is running good.
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Your a star. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Any suggestions on a rom?
Magicbox82 said:
Your a star. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Any suggestions on a rom?
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are you serious? what does this have to do with deving? have a look at either q&a or general discussion
lolmensch said:
are you serious? what does this have to do with deving? have a look at either q&a or general discussion
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This is in the Q & A section. I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm being ****, but I was only asking for a suggestion as in "has someone used a rom that they think is good and works well?"
Cant people ask a question anymore without someone jumping down they're throat.
Hi everyone I am Sean, and I just got my ATT SGS2 Yesterday. I think I followed a rooting guide for the non ATT one. The rooting was successful but my WIFI is down with no MAC Address, also I cannot seem to get any custom rom working.
Is there a way to get the Stock ATT Kernel so I can flash and start over. Is there a rooting guide specificly for the ATT version?
Thanks ahead of time!
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Hi everyone I am Sean, and I just got my ATT SGS2 Yesterday. I think I followed a rooting guide for the non ATT one. The rooting was successful but my WIFI is down with no MAC Address, also I cannot seem to get any custom rom working.
Is there a way to get the Stock ATT Kernel so I can flash and start over. Is there a rooting guide specificly for the ATT version?
Thanks ahead of time!
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If u flashed the wrong kernel, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294574. Not trying to be mean, but it took me less then a minute of skimming over the Android development section to find this.
Here is the normal rooting guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682.
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Waddle said:
If u flashed the wrong kernel, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294574. Not trying to be mean, but it took me less then a minute of skimming over the Android development section to find this.
Here is the normal rooting guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682.
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Umm, Sorry I wasn't aware I should be looking in the Development section? Since that isn't the right section...?
BruteSource said:
Hi everyone I am Sean, and I just got my ATT SGS2 Yesterday. I think I followed a rooting guide for the non ATT one. The rooting was successful but my WIFI is down with no MAC Address, also I cannot seem to get any custom rom working.
Is there a way to get the Stock ATT Kernel so I can flash and start over. Is there a rooting guide specificly for the ATT version?
Thanks ahead of time!
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Please read *before* you post a question. There is a lot of information available on the XDA I777 forums. Please read all the stickies in the general section, as well as the library sticky in the development section. You've been on xda-developers for several years and made many posts, so you *should* know the forum rules. People here will be glad to help you if you do your part first, but if you are looking to have your hand held, you will probably get little help.
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Please read *before* you post a question. There is a lot of information available on the XDA I777 forums. Please read all the stickies in the general section, as well as the library sticky in the development section. You've been on xda-developers for several years and made many posts, so you *should* know the forum rules. People here will be glad to help you if you do your part first, but if you are looking to have your hand held, you will probably get little help.
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Excuse me, I did read. Why would I look in the development section for a troublshooting issue? Please do not post unhelpful comments like that. You obviously can't comprehend the issue fully.
*Sorry double post, Please delete*
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Excuse me, I did read. Why would I look in the development section for a troublshooting issue? Please do not post unhelpful comments like that. You obviously can't comprehend the issue fully.
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You might want to think about buying yourself a nomex suit...
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Excuse me, I did read. Why would I look in the development section for a troublshooting issue? Please do not post unhelpful comments like that. You obviously can't comprehend the issue fully.
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It's just that your questions are already answered in sticky posts in both the general forum and the development forum. I thought it would be better if you wnet and read the answers there rather than taking the time to write the answers all over again.
You clearly didn't read if you went and flashed something not meant for your device without VERY explicit instructions on what is OK to flash and how to flash it.
Entropy512 said:
You clearly didn't read if you went and flashed something not meant for your device without VERY explicit instructions on what is OK to flash and how to flash it.
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Actually as I have already explained I did read plenty, I found nothing in the Q&A Section, which is where a solution to a "Question" should be.
And the Guide I followed which was from XDA never once stated that it was only for the International version. Nor did it say it would not work for the AT&T version.
I have been with this community a long time and have never had someone as rude or unhelpful as you. Please do not reply to posts if you are not helping in anyway.
Even though you may have read threads in the Q&A section, a simple search would have pulled up the IMPORTANT threads taht are located in the Dev section that would have answered your questions... and why are they in the Dev section you ask? Because, when flashing anything to your phone like a rom or kernel, its considered DEVELOPMENT and you would have know that if you would have read.
Now go read some more and search. Thread closed.
Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
Obviously anyone who wants to chime in is more than welcome.
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Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
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Basically, anything is independently flashable. Sometimes there will be interdependencies between components, but not usually.
1) Right now there is NO reason to ever flash bootloaders - avoid it. Any CWM-flashable firmware in these forums does not include BLs. (This may change with ICS.)
2) Don't flash anything with a .PIT in Odin - it'll hose your device.
3) You can mix and match any radio firmware with any system firmware. (At least for Gingerbread. ICS is an unknown.) It's not like many HTC devices, where the radio acted as a bootloader for the applications processor - on Samsungs, the AP bootloads the modem.
4) Older kernels can cause problems with newer firmwares. My latest releases should work with any Gingerbread firmware other than AOSP/CM7.
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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jpreichart said:
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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Yup. Any ICS update should contain clear instructions on if the bootloader situation changes. (Right now, there's no evidence of this.)
It is my opinion that anyone who provides a bootloader flash should always do it separately and make it clear under what circumstances the user should flash the BLs.
In general, be careful about flashing factory-originated firmware updates as these can include bootloaders. Almost anything here won't. (However, the first UCKK6 leaks did... Next time an I777 leak shows up we know how to remove the BLs though.)
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
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This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
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This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
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I mentioned above that I have / had searched. I did not find the same question asked. If I missed it, I apologize. It took me a few days to get the courage to post. I did not want to start a discussion and get 5 responses like yours (it seems that is the most common response people get when they ask questions).
Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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jpreichart said:
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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Yes, it should. You'll need to root your phone to install my kernel without the counter - either SuperOneClick (works for UCKH7) or my prerooted system image (flashing custom system images doesn't trigger the counter)
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Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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I agree with you. For what it's worth, I did search using a desktop. Just typing on my phone. I can't put it down!
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guys, question , my old sgs3 t-mobile gt-i9300 broke bcuz it dropled so bought a new one and this time i have an vodafone gt-i9300, is that bad? am i still able to add custom firmware./roms? thing is i want to oc it abit
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2 things, first youre probably gonna get a telling off for posting in the wrong section, all questions go in the q+a section
2nd yes you will still be able to flash cutom roms etc
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions go In Q&A
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Please read forum rules before posting
Questions go In Q&A
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i thought it was in q/a if it wasnt i couldnt set it as question right ?
anyway that aside, now its cleared up , can someone help me gettingthe right stuff to flash custom roms/firm ?, i hope i still can post here since its still a question, if i do it wrong tell me
You'll need to root your phone to be able to flash custom ROMs via Recovery, you can also install kernel such as Perseus or Siyah which allows you to overclock
Incrauze said:
You'll need to root your phone to be able to flash custom ROMs via Recovery, you can also install kernel such as Perseus or Siyah which allows you to overclock
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yeah that i know and it is the 1st thing i do, i used to be on sybian, easy flashed cfw's but dunno about android
Wesley_NL said:
yeah that i know and it is the 1st thing i do, i used to be on sybian, easy flashed cfw's but dunno about android
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Start with the \Basics .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
Yip rooting and installing custom recovery is the hardest part once theyre installed flashing roms is easy as pie
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