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Hey guys, Since ATT just got the X10 I was wondering which is better. My contract expires in a few days so I have some time to see which I like better. Right now I'm using an iPhone and hating it. I want something with android.
I love SE, I bought an original X1 right out of the gates, so I'm leaning a bit towards the X10 but I'm seeing that it might not have any additional benefit over the Captivate other than the awesome camera.
Help please? I travel a lot and will be going to college soon so I need a phone that will keep up with me, all day.
why not the EVO 4g? much better than both, but if you don't like that one go for the captivate
ATT is the best around here. We literally get full bars everywhere lol! Ok, so that's one for the Samsung...
If you're going to be using your phone outdoors a lot, get the X10. Samsung has the better screen, but it's OLED so when you're outside, it maybe really hard to see. But X10 screen is good as well. If you're concerned about aesthetics, I think X10 is the best looking phone there is, otherwise go for the Samsung.
The x10 is a great phone but if the captivate is anything like the galaxy s then i would go for the captivate.
i am also looking at the two phone and also iphone 4 when my contract is expiring.
Things I like about the sony is the physical call and off button. Also, I think the phone has higher res camera and also 2 camera.
I think captivative overall has a better hardware: 802.11n, larger storage space, better music playback software, bluetooth 3.0. android 2.1
I know sony will upgrade to android 2.1 or maybe 2.2 and samsung is coming out 2.2. So I think the software is not a major issue now.
hard to make a choice between the 3 phones.
2 cameras on your x10?
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2 cameras on your x10?
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Physical call and off button?
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Once they reduce that capital letters SAMSUNG logo in front, I'll recommend it. But for now, I'll say go for White X10, cool design...
No its Super AMOLED and its very visible outside in bright sunlight.
To the OP, just determine what you need in a device and use them both in the store. For the record, the Captivates GPS is broken and there is no camera flash. The Captivate has features that the X10 doesn't have. However the X10 will receive some of those features in a future update such as 720P video recording and Android 2.1. The Captivate has these features out of the box. My advice is to do some research online and dont rely purely on our recommendation.
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the only thing going for the Captivate is the screen...and only when viewing media or playing games etc. As for reading text, the X10's screen is much sharper. The build quality is much higher on the X10 too, the Galaxies get scratched real easy, just read some reviews. For me, the Galaxy Captivate/Vibrant looks like it's trying to be an iPhone which is blasphemous in my opinion lol. Not to mention the fact that everyone in the world will own some form of the Galaxy in the coming months. So if you want to have a unique and very stylish device with amazing hardware, definitely X10 because after the 2.1 update (hopefully Froyo eventually too) the software side of things won't be any different...otherwise you'll be left with a scratched up iPhone wannabe.
Thanks for the advice guys. I played with the X10 and I was very impressed, I guess ATT only offers it in black (sorry man), but I agree it looks damn fine. The camera was awesome and the media features were great. But the thing that sold me was that everything is solid and doesn't feel cheap. Just like my X1i, everything felt good, not gimmicky like my iPhone or the Captivate. I asked the guy in the store and he said go captivate but I real liked the x10. The screen in the cap was almost obnoxiously bright and the icons were cartoonish and silly.
Now, my only concern is android 1.6. Rumor is it'll be updated, but for the next month or 2 can I survive with it? I used to be a WM junkie, but lately I have been spoiled by my iPhone so I don't know how android works :/
BTW, the north American version doesn't have 2 cams, only 1 and there isn't a physical call button. But atleast there is a camera button, I loved that.
well i do not know of any X10 with 2 cameras
I don t get this GPS problem, I dont have it on my Galaxy S, why don t you bring the phone back for repair? (or have you tried that already)
i guess I was wrong about the camera.
Based on what I read, 2.1 is coming soon and Sony may even jump to 2.2 but you never konw. Loosk like manufacturers are a bit slow bringing 2.2 to the market. it's quite surprising to see Sony has not yet release 2.1 or 2.2 at all because Xperia was out like last year as oppose to Captivative that was out reently.
it seems to me that a lot of these phone, the softwrae is wehre it sets one from another. Samsung did a decent job with captivate so is Sony. But sony really neeed to get 2.1 or 2.2 out so it can really take the power of teh hardare.
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I don t get this GPS problem, I dont have it on my Galaxy S, why don t you bring the phone back for repair? (or have you tried that already)
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Lot of people are complaining about the GPS problem or low build quality of Galaxy S
Lot of people are complaining about low sound volume in call of X10.
You don't have problems with GPS.
I don't have problems with my X10.
This means this problems are not there?
Well, I bought the Captivate on day 1. I had to replace it on day 3. I just returned it on day 29 and picked up the X10.
My observations on the Captivate:
Great screen
Thin design
Junky buttons (don't like soft buttons so much)
Junky PC software
Serious Lag and general OS issues
The GPS is currently broken (does not work 100% as it should)
My observations on the X10 (2-days in):
Great screen (once you disable auto brightness setting)
Great looking (IMO)
Great buttons
Great media player (on phone)
Great companion software on the PC
I haven't really noticed any lag (either on the stock or unbranded ROM)
The GPS works amazingly quickly and accurately
The bottom line for me, and the reason I returned the Captivate, is Samsung has no real history of resolving issues with devices once they are released. I am fairly confident they will resolve the GPS issue but not so confident they will resolve all the other issues plaguing the device. Random resets, inability to wake the phone from a sleep and mysterious shut downs all happened to me. I also had problems with the battery and I just wasn't feeling too warm and fuzzy about Samsung. It's a shame really, it could be a great device. They also used some abnormal file system that is apparently the biggest cause of all the lag on the device.
The Sony device, on the other hand, seems much better thought out and seems like it will last longer as well. The screen is close enough between the two (for me anyway) that it's not really an issue. It's nice having the light on the camera because I can use it with a flashlight app. The additional fact that the PC companion software is so much better than anything I've seen for Android is also reassuring. It seems to me that Sony did a much more thorough job in the R&D stage and Samsung just designed a product that looks good on paper. I am very glad that I returned the Samsung device for the Sony.
BTW, I am not a Sony fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. I just honestly feel like it's the better device overall. It was a very difficult decision to return the Captivate as it does offer some very impressive specs, but in the end I need a device that is reliable and works.
a quick question for anyone who has used both phone, how are the mp3 players on either phone? Can you import your itune playlist without any issue? Also, can you see the lyrics like what you can do with iphone/ipod?
I am considering consolidate my mp3 player (ipod touch) and phone so I am hoping for one that will do everythign I can with my ipod. I konw iphoen does it but I am looking for options.
I really like XPERIA, Captivate looks cheap to me and I don't recommend.. yeah Android 2.2 will be nice on xperia .. hope Sony updates soon
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Lot of people are complaining about the GPS problem or low build quality of Galaxy S
Lot of people are complaining about low sound volume in call of X10.
You don't have problems with GPS.
I don't have problems with my X10.
This means this problems are not there?
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I didnt have the problem with the low income volume of the X10 after the update .23 either...
...that the Xperia X10 is officialy the flagship smartphone of sony ericsson.
How many of you are planning to keep it, at least until the end of this year?
Also, is it just me, or do I like the looks of the X10 better. Although it's a bit 'fat', I like the layout of the buttons and how it's less curved than the Arc. I also do like them a bit chubby
Anyway, long live the X10! Hopefully there will be some devs who stick with this phone and keep it getting better, but it's now the end of quite a crazy era for probably the most controversial android smartphone ever made.
going to stick with it for a while but doubt to have it till the end of the year
I will have to keep it till the end of the year Im 15 and bought a stupid phone... I readed many reviews that said this phone is great and WOULD GET MULTi tOUcH. It's Dual Touch, and that sucks. Afterall we didn't get any upgrades. But since the x10 gets gingerbread i'm going to bay end this year/begin next year another S.E.
S.E. her phones are just fully functional. All apps work, great functions, calling is really good. They make phones + services that make a phone something you can call a ''phone''.
Im gonna stay with it till next year, thx to the devs of xda that made that phone a good android phone that will be able to keep up with other androids such as desire, galaxys and nexus, hope sony will really keep their promise for gingerbread on x10, i doubt it but hey long live the x10
staying with it till it drops dead! can't find a reason why i shouldn't...does what it has to do till know..
I'm sure that I'll stick with X10 at least until 2013 lol.
The design is just beautiful and I don't splash cash every one or two year to "update" my phone
Same with many posts above.
I will use this phone for a long long time. I may even keep it as an antique 20 years from now as this phone had a meaning for me.
I had doubts with this phone before, but the devs made this phone great.
Like they made it less sluggish and just much more brilliant than when I first got it on 1.6. I got this phone the first day it came out and sticked with it until now because I was a big sony fan. (i'm not sure if i still am, as it was a wild ride from the first day)
Honestly, I don't see the point of owning the latest phone out anymore. I mean they purposely make these phone less than perfect so you will buy another phone every year or so. It's called planned obsolescence.
The X10 looks great, the camera is good and it has decent capabilities. I don't have an incentive to buy another new phone for another couple years.
Ive got my arc today! ;-)
i think we will really have everything we need in a phone with the X10 after the ginger upgrade
i don't see a need to "upgrade" and pay for a newer phone just because it's newer
reasons:
the camera is not that much better, if better at all
bigger screen (and bigger phone) than 4" is a CON for me...
i think the X10 has a very good screen even with 65K colors (and that may change with GB update)
full multitouch - hm...i don't even use the dual touch and when i do, i use it on games and that works just fine
512mb of ram over 384mb - doesn't really make a difference, at least not on gingerbread
WiFi hotspot - barnacle works just fine and i think with GB it'll be native
front camera - not usable where i live so thanks...
Faster cpu/gpu - OK, MAYBE this will be one noticeable difference but still, i think when our devs polish SE's GB it'll be within 5% speed difference in real usability, maybe not in benchmarks, but i don't play benchmarks
i don't really use HDMI (nor do i have a TV for that matter)
i don't care about built in radio
we will also have flash on x10 with GB update
i don't know if i missed anything but that about sums it up that FOR ME, the new features are not needed so for now i'll stay on x10
I voted for option #2, but I'm getting the Galaxy s2 after summer, depending on how good the 2.3 upgrade is really
I was thinking of going to the Incredible S or Optimus 3d but with the X10 getting gingerbread and SE offering a version with an unlocked bootloader, I'll be getting neither the S or 3D and sticking with SE.
With that said, the Arc and Neo don't offer enough for me to replace the X10 (only considered the S because of its 768 mb ram, front cam, and rear cam that comes close to the X10 but not enough of an upgrade either).
I'll wait for SE to bring out a dual core scorpion or a single core Krait (with adreno 3xx series).
What makes this even more difficult for me is the whole AT&T and TMO-USA status. Are they going to share 3g towers (tmo users able to use ATT's 3g bands?). It would be hard to justify 5-600$ for a phone just for it to be useless on 3g the following year. The only pentaband devices I know so far are Nokia's S^3.
I will keep my x10 until my region gets covered with LTE, then i will change phone.
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No reason to upgrade, the phone does what I need it to do, except be able to make calls in loud places!
I really don't see any reason to upgrade.
Granted, if I had money to spare, I'd certainly be tempted.
But if you combine my current unemployment with the upcoming GB update...
my X10 still has a long life ahead!
Getting the latest Google version officially from SE is plain AWESOME.
I do appreciate the effort put in custom ROMs and I have tried a handful of them,
but I believe that my device is at its full potential only on official firmwares
(at least until the bootloader gets cracked/bypassed).
i choose option 3!!
i'm actually looking to pass the x10 on to my wife, and get myself a Desire HD. there is just something about that 4.3" screen that is tempting me
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How many of you are planning to keep it, at least until the end of this year?
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I definitely won't have X10 till end of year as too many great toys will explode before then.
Somehow, I seem to have preference for SE designs but only Arc looks good of the 4 new SE phones that are announced. Arc has very little to offer in terms of hardware improvements over X10. That to me is a big let down by SE. Maybe, they are not targeting these new phones for current X10 user base. These new models might be more to attract new customers towards SE by keeping the phone price low.
I wish Arc had the specs of Galaxy S2. I might still end up falling for Arc when I get to see it in person but that is only because of larger screen and sleek design. Or I might go low and buy Galaxy S2.
Did anyone try Samsung Focus? I thought the 5MP camera on it actually takes much better pictures than our X10. I am hoping Galaxy S2 might also be having a camera as good as Arc if not better.
Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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the bootloader hasn't been cracked, it's been bypassed...
kantk20111 said:
Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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yesterday my provider gave me a great deal on Iphone 4 - 32 gb, extent my contract for another 2 years and get Iphone for free + usb moderm + 5gb data for just 49$. I decided sell it to my wife's friend for 850$ and stick with X10 cuz it has all what I need and want for my work and study. there're only thing I miss that wifi tethering and hopefuly it'll be fixed on upcoming GB.
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the bootloader hasn't been cracked, it's been bypassed...
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What is the difference, in terms of what can be implemented ? (I really don't know, I'm hoping you do)
A week after I bought this phone the Xperia mini came out. It just broke my heart to see the newer phones specs! :'( 1Ghz +HD recording.
Anyone else feeling the same?
I bought this stupid crap phone in the beginning of 2011. Stupidest choice I've made so far.
I bought this crap 4 months ago and 2 weeks ago my earphone stopped working. I took it to a service point to be fixed and they told me that it must be replaced with a new one BUT my warranty was void as i was responsible for the problem!
I told them to just return the phone unrepaired and now the damn thing doesnt even turn on!!!
Crappy company, crappy phone, crappy technicians, to hell with all of them!
That was the last SE phone i bought!
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I bought this crap 4 months ago and 2 weeks ago my earphone stopped working. I took it to a service point to be fixed and they told me that it must be replaced with a new one BUT my warranty was void as i was responsible for the problem!
I told them to just return the phone unrepaired and now the damn thing doesnt even turn on!!!
Crappy company, crappy phone, crappy technicians, to hell with all of them!
That was the last SE phone i bought!
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I have to agree with EVERY WORD! Their customer service is **** and their phones are even worse. My next phone will be either an HTC or Samsung, but one thing is certain, my friend, NO MORE SONY ERICSSON! For ever and ever and ever.
Over the years, I have had two Sony Ericsson phones and I have been displeased with both of them.
I got my crap back in summer 2010(june-july) now i am looking for a proper android smartphone and definitely not from SE.
OMG the same here >.< i want that new mini its much cooler with 1Ghz,bravia engine,Android 2.3 Gingerbread and the new cool SE interface the old one sucks (1 widget per page >.<) and HD recording!
well, buying an x10 mini/mini pro in 2011 is, with no disrespect meant, stupid piece of an act!!!!...u should keep an eye on the market before buying this!!!!....for me, i always fancied the modding power of this cell and i find it 2 be kinda cute
but for every1, u should always have another "power" cell for daily (and satisfying) usage....am lucky enough to have an Incredible S as my "daily" cell....the mini is just for "fun"
but for 1 thing, i'll vouch word for word--SE Customer Service SUCKSSSS!!!!my headfone stopped working within 2 months of purchase and they said "I" did something wrong!!! ....and i don't know bout other places, but in India, dey don't even keep tab on it's development too....dey were like fish out of water seeing me use dual touch "pinch 2 zoom" (i didn't tell them dat it was "fake" ...didn't want 2 ruin their "alice in wonderland" expression )
x10 mini screen size is too small man :| if it had a 3 inch display it would be a perfect android!
Other than small screens and ear pieces can anyone elaborate on why this is crap?
I have one on its way to me now.
Also are the custom roms a big improvment over stock?
For me this phone combined with cm7 is the best android phone around.
Custom roms are a great improvement over stock. In fact I find the mini pro much easier to use than any phone with touch screen only and chugs along quite nicely for photos, music, web browsing and heaps of apps and games.
Not a piece of crap at all compared to similarly priced phones here in nz unless you choose to run stock.
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Excellent phone,
First I bought it for my wife.
And then I bought another one for me.
It all depends of what is important for you.
It is small and robust, you can use it with one hand, and the camera is still one of the best in the market. The GPS fix is fast. The sound is excellent to play MP3. The speakers are quite good. The battery life is excellent using CM6.
I used to have bigger phone, bigger screen but frankly, if you don't spend you life sending SMS and webbrowsing on a phone, you should rather consider a smaller, handy phone. On top of that you have less chances to have your phone stolen.
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Excellent phone,
First I bought it for my wife.
And then I bought another one for me.
It all depends of what is important for you.
It is small and robust, you can use it with one hand, and the camera is still one of the best in the market. The GPS fix is fast. The sound is excellent to play MP3. The speakers are quite good. The battery life is excellent using CM6.
I used to have bigger phone, bigger screen but frankly, if you don't spend you life sending SMS and webbrowsing on a phone, you should rather consider a smaller, handy phone. On top of that you have less chances to have your phone stolen.
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You're right in what you say.
Shame this is my first post here,, But for all you fine folks complaining about it (the phone).. did you not read up on the phone specs before you bought it.. look at pictures of the the phone,,possibly hold it in you hand and turn it on look at the screen and say wow it's small ect.. well if you did and you still bought it, only to complain about it now.. Don't blame S.E as I seriously doubt that any of their sales reps where there twisting your arm.. Customer service is another story..
This phone is actually quite good for what it offers and more! It's just that 5 days after I got it the Xperia mini got launched. That was a punch in my face! XD
Wish we too could get HD recording(atleast 720p) sigh!
I only realise SE have crappy software after they announced that X10 mini pro isn't going to be updated to Gingerbread coz of non-portable code.
I also realise SE have the crappiest software after using CM7.
But then again, this phone's hardware combined with CM7 makes the best phone out of all I've ever had so far.
Cheers.
Have got a prerelease new mini pro, which seems to have all the bits that were missing from the x10 mini. We now have the HD 720 recording, bravia screen, exmor camera and all the other bells and whistles SE are sticking in things..its a bit of a chunker though, couple of mm thicker than the previous model.
Okay, there are two things I need to straighten out with most of you, and that is "2.3 official ROM" and "Multitouch"
An actual official 2.3 Gingerbread ROM? Keep dreaming. Ain't never going to happen. Custom ROM's are the ONLY WAY you'll ever see a 2.3 ROM on these phones.
Multitouch? Sure, change the hardware in the Mini (and Pro)(mostly the digitizer, but could be more) and you can have that multitouch. There was one reason why Sony Ericsson chose NOT to throw in better digitizers on these phones: it's size. Try squeezing two or three fingers on these small 2.6 inch screens and play a game with it. Next to impossible, right? Yeah, there's the answer. If you really want Multitouch that bad, sell that crap phone and buy a ZTE Blade for near 100 bucks.
Read it, understand it and accept.
If you don't know what I mean or what I say here, then don't waste your energy writing a reply. Kids these days..
someone is frustrated and is regreting buying their mini pro?
c'mon man, most people here know why they bought their minis/pros, they are pretty decent phones, in my country it only came to the stores about a month ago (i got mine in april), and its a great offer compared to other phones.
i see you regret you didn't buy zte in the first place. well, those aren't very similar phones (yes, zte is better), so i guess you haven't done a lot of thinking before buying mini pro. so now you're mad cause people ask these things, but not everyone is so informed.
but instead of freaking out, you should have told them that there are several very good working custom 2.3.5 roms that are way better than stock, and are a perfect way to turn a nice phone into an even better one. when i show my friends my phone they ask how i've done, so they start to mod their own phones. a couple of nice vibes is a good way to broaden the android community, and we need that.
no hard feelings man, but i thin you're making an unnecessary fuss...
Why do you need to speak that?! There are too many people happy with their x10 mini (pro), with custom roms the experience feels much better. Why do you speak like that?! If you are furious with your phone, just throw it on the wall and it will break, but Im satisfied with it and I think you should close this thread.
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Okay, there are two things I need to straighten out with most of you, and that is "2.3 official ROM" and "Multitouch"
An actual official 2.3 Gingerbread ROM? Keep dreaming. Ain't never going to happen. Custom ROM's are the ONLY WAY you'll ever see a 2.3 ROM on these phones.
Multitouch? Sure, change the hardware in the Mini (and Pro)(mostly the digitizer, but could be more) and you can have that multitouch. There was one reason why Sony Ericsson chose NOT to throw in better digitizers on these phones: it's size. Try squeezing two or three fingers on these small 2.6 inch screens and play a game with it. Next to impossible, right? Yeah, there's the answer. If you really want Multitouch that bad, sell that crap phone and buy a ZTE Blade for near 100 bucks.
Read it, understand it and accept.
If you don't know what I mean or what I say here, then don't waste your energy writing a reply. Kids these days..
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yup....GB officially is NOT comin 2 the little ones!!!...i thrashed SE on their FB page for this and they took down the post within 30 minutes!!! and guess wat, it had more than 1000+ "likes" hits within dat short time!!!!...dey r pulling dere hairs off updating the bigger x10 2.2->2.3->Multi touch -> FB inside xperia and wat not and left us out in the wild just because those di*kheaded morons thought of a sequel ....samsung's service is WAYYYYY better!!!!!
Yes, I must admit, samsung's support is way better than SE
It's obvious because samsung is a giant electronic company compared to SE
I'v been SE fans since their K500i released
And the mini, is not that bad, I buy it because it's fit my needs, it's size
And I too a little bit disappointed because no further support for mini, but fortunately this site is giving me a cure, so kudos to nobodyAtall
And my future phone would be the xperia mini I guess.. well who knows I'll change my mind and pick up samsung's android
We have dual touch in the Mini Pro. 3 fingers on its tiny little screen is just impratical. Its hard enough playing fruit ninja with 2 fingers on it, talk about 3!
hello guys, easy question
Are you happy with this phone?
I'm hesitating among several qwerty phones but the lack of development is doing me reluctant to buy any of them.
These are my options.
Anything important problems or issues not solvable i should know about this little device?
I love my mini pro.
I used to have a x10 mini pro, then when SE released the SK17i mini pro I brought one in black, but I dropped that and broke it and replaced it with a white one. I can afford to go buy any phone but I just like my mini pro so much I'm sticking with it.
Only negative point really for some people might be the screen size being a little small for playing games and watching movies.
the keyboard is perfect, I can easily type without looking at the screen. the phone is great for daily usage and some casual games. it can get a bit laggy while surfing on the internet though.
It's a great little phone. You can't really get better for the price.
The xperia pro would be a fine option as well, but it's just plain ugly, and I really think the Mini Pro handles tasks better because of it's lower resolution, which also means something for RAM usage.
BTW you've listed the Relay 4G as one of your options. I'd say go get it. As some member said, it's now officially supported by CM, which is way better than Samsung's Touchwiz.