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Is it okay to install the updates Htc sends being rooted? I have an update for the lockscreen and don't know if I should update it or not.
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Is it okay to install the updates Htc sends being rooted? I have an update for the lockscreen and don't know if I should update it or not.
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yea, i think there is a lockscreen/few app update should be fine. although these types of updates have been uncommon on my EVO so not sure if these small and narrowly focused OTA updates will be common or not on the EVO 3D. this is the first update of this type i've seen on the evo/evo3d series. it only patches a few applications and doesn't touch the bootloader/hboot/radio/recovery.
as a general warning, most OTAs from HTC, especially larger in size, have the potential to reset root access on the device and lock the user out. keep in mind when running most OTAs, especially larger ones, you do run the risk of losing root access.
if you want to do some investigating yourself, the OTA files are always downloaded to the /cache partition. download the file, but do not install. after the file has been downloaded, adb pull the downloaded .zip from the /cache partition. you can open this .zip up in 7zip/winrar and maybe also winzip. inside the .zip you can see all the pieces it plans on loading and can determine which parts of the phone will be modified, i.e. hboot, radio, kernel, recovery, apps, etc.
hope that helps!
Im about ready to take the plung and change my phones stock 2.2 rom for an ICS rom. I think I'm gonna go with ICSlim but I have a few questions first.
1. Will I be able to transfer over the preloaded movie that came with my phone?
2. The steps for installing ICSlim are not very clear. It mentions first updating to a CM9 rom first before updating to ICS, does that sound right? Can some one give me a simple run down of what I gotta do from after installing CWM?
3. Can I get memo and swipe on ICS?
4. If something goes wrong during installation is there any way to recover from it? Does vibrant have something like NVflash?
1. Yes and no. Yes, the movie Avatar will remain on your SD card after upgrading to ICS. However you will not be able to play it.
2. Yes that's partially correct, however I believe you meant CM7. For a detailed break down of the installation process go here.
3. Yes, you can get them. To download Swype you must register as a beta tester here. It's very simple to do and only takes a couple minutes. Once registered you can download and enjoy Swype all over again. You can download the Touch Wiz memo app here. Instructions are included in the .zip.
4. Yes. Before wiping data or even installing a rom in CWR, do a nandroid backup. Here's some simple instructions from the noob guide in the Q&A section...
Clockwork Recovery / Nandroid Backup!
Reboot into CWR (both volume buttons held in) while booting until you see “Vibrant'
Once there, go to Backup and run that. Should take about 5 minutes, maybe more.
If all hell breaks loose, this is a snapshot of your phone at that point... it's important to do this before flashing a new ROM!
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If you have any more questions feel free to ask!
not so sure about ics now...
After reading about the encryption error I dont think Im gonna move on to ICS after all.
Instead I'm just gonna fix up the stock rom. What are some must do things I should do to get my phone running fast? I know there is an app that removes the preinstalled crap from my phone but I dont know what its called. Anyone know the app Im thinking about?
Also does rooting your phone mess up the play store?
And what is the lag fix? I have seen it mentioned in a few other threads but never took the time to read up on it.
There is a Stock KB5 ROM in the development section. Also a few other Froyo 2.2 ROMs you may want to try.
I don't know of any de-bloater for our devices. You can always purchase TB and freeze them. My Slim_Ryder ROM is about as non-bloat as your can get for Froyo.
Rooting does nothing to play store. I do think it effects the Play Movies.
Voodoo Lag Fix -
In a nut shell. Samsung decided to use a $hitty as filesystem called RFS. A Voodoo lag-fix kernel can convert these RFS file system into EXT4. Much faster the RFS. This Lag-fix is only used in Froyo and Gingerbread (non CM / MIUI) roms. CM7 / 9 (or any ICS rom) uses YAFFS file system. This also requires the ICS kernel to repartition the entire device. Due to this fact if you ever flash CM7 / 9 / ICS / MIUI and want to go back to any Froyo / GB rom you must Odin back to stock with repartition checked.
Hope the info helps
Ty
Thanks for the info, the lag fix stuff is a big help especially
Is it true.....
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still looking...
Still looking for the app that uninstalls the preinstalled apps on the vibrant.
You can do this yourself with Titanium Backup or any file explorer that has Root. They are in /system/app.
Sidenote: Before you get uninstall crazy, one of the benifits of TB is that you can Freeze and app. This lets you see if there are any unintended consequences by not allowing that app to do its thing. If all is good, then you can uninstall. Make a TB backup first though in case you ever want to reinstall.
Once you get all those bloat apps gone, reboot to recovery and wipe /cache and the advanced>wipe /dalvik-cache and it will clean your phone of anything those left behind. Will/should run snappier too. I actually do this from time to time to keep my stuff clean.
Just download the extended blu ray version and tada.
Its free (illegally)
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Just download the extended blu ray version and tada.
Its free (illegally)
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I feel that anyone who bought a vibe and has gone custom rom has the right to rip a copy of avatar.
What are you looking at shortbus......
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
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Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.
Hello,
I've managed to get my build.prop in a state where I can't update (I assume it's the build prop). I've tried the backups I have, but none of them are working. I'm currently on 4.1.1 and I was hoping someone has backup.
Thanks in advance!
for clarity: Verizon Galaxy Note II 4.1.1 Stock ROM, Stock Recovery, Rooted
The Failing update is update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails with code 402
Download the stock ROM in Development and pull it from there
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Bfitz26 said:
Download the stock ROM in Development and pull it from there
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I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
Trevski13 said:
I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
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Download the recovery flashable stock rom, the zip file, and extract it from that using 7zip.
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Trevski13 said:
I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
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Using ES File explorer. Setup up your root explorer. and change permissions by using tools to System R/W.
Use ES File explorer to open the stock download and navigate to system/build.prop Copy it. Go back to your system and Rename the one there to build.bak. Then paste the new one there. This way you have the original saved if it turns out not to be the build.prop. My guess is. If you are on a rooted, stock rom like you said. The build.prop's are going to be identical. Thinking the culprit might be whatever you are trying to Odin is bad.
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Using ES File explorer. Setup up your root explorer. and change permissions by using tools to System R/W.
Use ES File explorer to open the stock download and navigate to system/build.prop Copy it. Go back to your system and Rename the one there to build.bak. Then paste the new one there. This way you have the original saved if it turns out not to be the build.prop. My guess is. If you are on a rooted, stock rom like you said. The build.prop's are going to be identical. Thinking the culprit might be whatever you are trying to Odin is bad.
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I didn't know you could explore .img files with a root explorer, of course I have never tried either.
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So I pulled the build.prop from a stock image, but it turned out it perfectly matched one of my backups. (I had three backups, factory, factory that I played with, and OTA Stock). So in the end that didn't solve my core issue. At this point should I make a new thread with a more appropriate title or just continue this one?
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I didn't know you could explore .img files with a root explorer, of course I have never tried either.
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Actually you can't... I ended up using "Android ICS JB EXT4 imagefile unpacker" for windows, which worked nicely.
Trevski13 said:
The Failing update is update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails with code 402
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I would say just continue this thread.
I just re-read your original post. Are you trying to update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 via the OTA? If so, build.prop isn't your issue.
jcollier said:
I would say just continue this thread.
I just re-read your original post. Are you trying to update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 via the OTA? If so, build.prop isn't your issue.
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alright, detail time!
I'm currently on 4.1.1 (I've applied one update after I bought it on release day)
I have an ota update (to what I assume is 4.1.2)
stock everything, locked boot-loader, but rooted (used Exynos Abuse)
using SuperSU
my phone lists update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails to install with error code 402
my device status IS "modified" but it appears to be related to the SD card as it is "normal" when I remove it (apparently a known issue)
normally when I get an update I do the following:
1. restore build.prop
2. remove busybox
3. remove/disable any other apps that may have played with files that I think could cause issues
4. double check my root backup (Voodoo)
5. temp unroot
6. update
7. restore root
8. enjoy
this method usually works without issues :/
and the reason I suspected build.prop in the first place is that restoring it allowed me to update on another device.
I'd really rather not have to flash it back to stock, but if it's my only option, I will. So any ideas that don't involve wiping everything would be wonderful!
Trevski13 said:
alright, detail time!
I'm currently on 4.1.1 (I've applied one update after I bought it on release day)
I have an ota update (to what I assume is 4.1.2)
stock everything, locked boot-loader, but rooted (used Exynos Abuse)
using SuperSU
my phone lists update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails to install with error code 402
my device status IS "modified" but it appears to be related to the SD card as it is "normal" when I remove it (apparently a known issue)
normally when I get an update I do the following:
1. restore build.prop
2. remove busybox
3. remove/disable any other apps that may have played with files that I think could cause issues
4. double check my root backup (Voodoo)
5. temp unroot
6. update
7. restore root
8. enjoy
this method usually works without issues :/
and the reason I suspected build.prop in the first place is that restoring it allowed me to update on another device.
I'd really rather not have to flash it back to stock, but if it's my only option, I will. So any ideas that don't involve wiping everything would be wonderful!
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Really the only thing I have seen to update is to go completely back to stock.
But why do you want to do this so badly? Why not just unlock and flash the new update rom Beans provided? Thats certainly the easiest way to do it in my opinion, since you're having all these issues, and it leaves you unlocked in case you don't like one of the future updates or if you want to test out AOSP.
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Really the only thing I have seen to update is to go completely back to stock.
But why do you want to do this so badly? Why not just unlock and flash the new update rom Beans provided? Thats certainly the easiest way to do it in my opinion, since you're having all these issues, and it leaves you unlocked in case you don't like one of the future updates or if you want to test out AOSP.
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I rely on my phone a lot and so even the short amount of time it would take me to fix a soft brick, or reconfigure a wiped device would be a problem. I'm not worried about bricking it, I'm worried about the time it takes to fix it. I soft bricked my old X2, and it was a real inconvenience (granted that was the first time I'd ever had to fix something like that) and I had to restore my Transformer Infinity back to stock to fix lag and glitching issues. (which lead to a whole partial root fiasco). So It's not that I can't fix the problems, it's that it takes time I don't have, and disrupts my life. If I had another 4g phone (because switching between 3g and 4g is a pain on Verizon) that I could switch to if I messed up and didn't have time to fix it, I'd totally start messing with custom roms, unlocking, and all that fun stuff, but I don't
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I rely on my phone a lot and so even the short amount of time it would take me to fix a soft brick, or reconfigure a wiped device would be a problem. I'm not worried about bricking it, I'm worried about the time it takes to fix it. I soft bricked my old X2, and it was a real inconvenience (granted that was the first time I'd ever had to fix something like that) and I had to restore my Transformer Infinity back to stock to fix lag and glitching issues. (which lead to a whole partial root fiasco). So It's not that I can't fix the problems, it's that it takes time I don't have, and disrupts my life. If I had another 4g phone (because switching between 3g and 4g is a pain on Verizon) that I could switch to if I messed up and didn't have time to fix it, I'd totally start messing with custom roms, unlocking, and all that fun stuff, but I don't
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Well unlocking would let you go ahead and update and until you wanted to flash roms you wouldnt have to except for that first flash of the new update, which is what a stock update does.
The reason I say this is some people have had this problem and when they finally do get the update to work it soft bricks them. This is rare but it has happened. In the end for me it is just easier to unlock so I can play around when I want to and when I dont I can stay on stock.
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Flashed My wife and I's OG's with CM 10.2. She was coming from stock 4.0.1 I was coming from 4.1.2
My has no problems. Hers wouldnt connect to wifi even though it could pick up the signals.
Last night her Kernel crashed. I figured maybe I didnt fully wipe her files clean so I rebooted her into recovery and did a factory wipe,
cleaning Dalvik, etc. and reinstalled.
Still no wifi connectivity.
Is this a driver, antennae, modem issue? Please help, I've run out of ideas.
Did you flash the correct radio?
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Hmmmmm
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Did you flash the correct radio?
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I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.1.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
brionbey said:
I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Roms for the OG don't contain modems, your wife's phone would still have ICS modem. If you had the ota to 4.1 on your phone it will have jb modem.
brionbey said:
I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
-edit- this is of course, if you are on AT&T
also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
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Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
-edit- this is of course, if you are on AT&T
also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
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Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
adfurgerson said:
Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
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Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
How does this sound?
[r.]GimP said:
Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
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Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
brionbey said:
Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
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Don't panic, you can always load onto the SD card externally, with a microsd to SD adapter or through TWRP/CWM with "mount usb storage" mode. Failing both of those things I'm fairly certain one of your two phones will be enough to load the SD card for the other phone if needed.
I'm thinking everything you need is going to be the LGNPST route now anyway, and that being said you may as well just flash them both to stock 4.1.2 in that case. First things first, you definitely want to backup before anything gets out of hand, if twrp isn't getting it then pull with adb. Quick breakdown of that below.
The universal drivers straight off the LG site work just fine, but in my experience to get the adb part happy you need to click on your devices, and find your phone, whether it says LG/Nexus4/MTP, doesn't matter. Open it and click on the hardware tab, it should list 3 devices.
unknown (or adb if you're lucky)
Your phone
USB Composite Device
If the top isnt some variation with ADB in the name, double click it, then change settings, it may say drivers not loaded, so on the driver tab we're going to give it one.
Update driver, and it will ask how, the option on the bottom is "browse my comp for driver software" and after that the bottom option again is "let me pick from a list..." I think then it shows a split list, the device type should be ADB something, and if you installed the LG universal drivers then near the bottom you will have "LGE Mobile Sooner Single ADB Interface" windows will complain because it couldn't figure out that its the right driver, confirm you want to use it and it will then show "this device is working properly" go ahead and close all those windows and it will update on the first one with the three devices listed the next time you open it.
At this point you need the adb application itself, I usually just download the whole android SDK personally, but where you get it from doesn't matter. If you're booted in android, make sure adb has root access in developer settings, and debugging is enabled.
open a command promt, for the sake of easy navigate to the folder where you put adb, in windows, or in the SDK example, /android/sdk/platform-tools/ hold shift and right-click on an empty space and select "open command window here"
If android is running, type "adb root" without quotes
and adb will inform you its restarting, if in twrp you will already be root.
Type "adb devices" and as long as its not blank you should be good
again, for the sake of easy "adb backup -shared -all"
and let it do its thing, it should start creating a default file named "backup.ab" it's bound to take awhile as -shared should grab all the sd card contents just to be safe.
Disaster recovery aside, I would use a combination of Titanium backup root, and "backup your mobile" - especially add the second option in addition to titanium, thats one of the only free backup apps that can get MMS as well as SMS, and restore them.
Again, if you're having issue with the computer normally seeing the device, these are still good tools, save to external sd card, remove card and transfer manually to your computer.
ok.. now that all your stuff is *hopefully* now redundantly backed up, depending on the stock image you find, you can either push it via fastboot commands or flash with lgnpst. I know the images are in our forum, most likely in the lgnpst thread. just follow through that and read well ahead before performing each step, you'll be ok.
I believe fastboot can relock your bootloader in all off one command, i don't have the answer if its necessary or not to receive the OTA, but having skimmed the lgnpst thread in the past, I'm positive people have done the flash and then had the OTA pushed from AT&T so they could get up to 4.1.2 for the official JB and partitions. Like I said in the beginning, your call if you want to skip that and just lgnpst to 4.1.2 since you're there anyway. Also, keep an eye out for one of the recent restore to stock / RPM/TZ partition threads, I think shellnutt making a cwm/twrp flashable zip to do the same thing lgnpst teeny bin would without even needing lgnpst.
So, barring a complete hardware failure, dont be scared. Get your data for now, then on to the next step.
Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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Agreed.
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I agree also! feels great to have some help with this. attempting fixes I'll report back.
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I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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yes that sounds fine, in that case I would just make the apps and messages backups with titanium/backup your mobile
I'm not 100% if the lgnpst flash to JB wipes user data or not, but after that you can flash pretty much ANY rom for our device, then just download titanium/backup your mobile from the app store and point it to the directories on the sd card, and restore selectively.
For the most part you can move everything from /sdcard to /external_sd and move it back over when you're done, I think the JB radio (or modem, both terms apply) works very well for everything I've used (and yes they play a significant part in wifi and gps also), and I was a pretty hardcore flash-a-holic for a really good while, still haven't tried the hybrid modems and people rave about how well they work. Sounds like a good plan you got going, once you're up with the partitions and the JB modem from 4.1.2 you really should have no issues, and once you have that freedom, and she will as well to try out all manner of ROM's, you'll find you get really good at backup/restore out of necessity. Happy flashing.
If you need any specifics, aside from the step by steps of the other threads I'm glad to lend advice, just let me know
-edit- you can make multiple backups with each program by the way, titanium and backup your mobile.
Titanium free says only one backup per app, but in reality just hit the batch button on the top right, looks like a check mark, have it get all apps and system settings, then just move the whole folder you set for titanium off of the device for safe keeping. This way you can backup everything running right now, then if you want to restore the other one, you could even do it again, if you just wanted to cherry pick some stuff, then flash, etc. Titanium free wont let you make multiple copies of the same app, but it also WONT delete extras if you already have them, so if you dump a few titanium folders into eachother and merge them, you can then choose any of the backup files or data or both from each date.
The reason I use both programs is as I said earlier, backup your mobile handles SMS/MMS very efficiently, and occasionally I'll let it grab a few user apps, and system apps, because when it restores them, it restores for example, flash player from LG stock rom, as a user app, and it continues to work flawlessly. Titanium can't get over it being a system app, and sucks at restoring flash.
However, titanium is GREAT for also saving user data, not just the program itself. ie.. savegame states for any app you have that doesnt explicitly sync online, or the login data for facebook, or adfree with the most current hosts so you dont have to redownload or even type your logins, very convenient.
My personal order of operations before I flash a new rom, or even upgrade to a new version with a clean flash instead of a "dirty" is to fully backup all apps/system data with titanium, then hit ByM for contacts/sms/mms/bookmarks/user dictionary/apps
then a nandroid backup, since it is basically a perfect snapshot itself, just like turning the phone off, and back on.
after rom flash / gapps, I boot, setup google real quick, goto app store and cancel the 5 million downloads, except for titanium/ByM
after those download I roll my messages/user dictionary/contacts/ selective apps I know i'll use, and the same with a few from titanium.
This way I'm less bloated with crap I probably don't use everyday, and if i need it, its a few taps away. It's a very painless process and a lot of peace of mind having everything safe, and allows you to try alot of unstable crap knowing how easy you can always roll your CWM/TWRP backup over to the device like you never left.
Sorry, I'm a fan of ranting. Pics for adb driver steps explained in previous post, and the backup part, for reference if you ever need them.
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Ok, I'm keepin cool but it seems to be one thing after another
I made the backup before the original flash.
I see it in the folder. When I restored it, it is the same rom that I'm on CM 10.2
I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks for the images, that really helped unstuck me.
Question: I've checked the threads looking for the stock [ROM] 4.1.2 and Gapps for E970 and can't find them anywhere.
At this point I just need a doOver. I have to get my wife her phone back, ASAP and if I brick by some chance, I'll never hear the end of it.
EVER.
Or how about just flashing the radio? Can I do that to at least get her Wifi?
Here is the flashable jellybean radio by g33k3r.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2220048
I recommend still updating her to the jellybean partition layout when you get a chance, but this should get you working WiFi at the very least.
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Flash the Radio
Thanks SnowLeopard.
So all I need to do is just boot into recovery using TWRP and Install the radio, or should I factor reset and install the radio at the same time as the rom?
Thanks Again Guys. (or gals)
Lgnpst doesn't touch the /data partition.
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the modem work great.
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At gimp, followed instructions exactly, computer recognize device, only thing left to do is run teeny bit, but getting error path not found
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