Greyblur to Gingerblur? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've [finally] been able to flash to Grayblur and it's no doubt a huge improvement over stock. I think after seeing it, though, that I like the slightly more colorful look of Gingerblur. While I'm concerned it may not have as many speed enhancements I think the overall appearance is what I'm attracted by. So my question - can I go straight from Grayblur to Gingerblur and just install the other .ZIP from recovery? Or do I need to redo the entire flash back to 1.26 stock process and go from there?

I recovered from a previously made CWM backup before going from greyblur to gingerblur (same reason as you, the AOSP is more colorful and vibrant)
What I did.
SBF Flash > Root and Retain > Update to 1.5.7 > Afterupdate.bat and install Tenfar's CWM > CREATE A BACKUP USING TENFARS RECOVERY
this will allow you to restore from the backup and save you having to SBF flash back to completely stock, root, update, root again if you ever decide to install a new theme.

I hope you know that there is no speed enhancements on any of these "roms". There pretty much themes.
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DarkRyoushii said:
I recovered from a previously made CWM backup before going from greyblur to gingerblur (same reason as you, the AOSP is more colorful and vibrant)
What I did.
SBF Flash > Root and Retain > Update to 1.5.7 > Afterupdate.bat and install Tenfar's CWM > CREATE A BACKUP USING TENFARS RECOVERY
this will allow you to restore from the backup and save you having to SBF flash back to completely stock, root, update, root again if you ever decide to install a new theme.
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Yes, that would have been wise of me =) No big deal, Greyblur is great as it is so I'll ruminate for a bit on whether I want to switch or not. Thanks for the help!

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[Q] does clicking Install Recovery a second time override first time clicking it?

when updating from gingerblur 1.2 to 1.3 i went into the tenfar's recovery app and clicked Install Recovery again, even though I had already done this before install gingerblur, I want to try out the new grey blur and was thinking bout using recover to go back to my first after root install, but now that I have clicked it I don't want to end up just going back to 1.2
so basically two questions, can I recover back to my first pre gingerblur 1.2 version of atrix, or can I only go back to gingerblur 1.2 at this point since I overrided it?
and yes I know about sbf flashing I just am lazy and would like to know if I have the option to recover from multiple states
Install recovery actually initiates the recovery process....... it doesn't complete till the phone rebotes and you work through the flashing menu..... so pressing it multiple times wouldn't do anything I guess??
as for going back i don;t think that is an option anymore hence the flashing method said " are you sure" and also "This process can not be undone"..... not unless you flash a new sbf, which is can brick if not done properly.
i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
banes said:
i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
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Ahh yes, sorry, you can flash any rom over the top of gingerblur as long as it is the complete version, not an update( from say v1.xx to v2.xx), it has to be the complete v2.xx zip file.
Yes it is good practice to press install recovery every time you want to flash, just to make sure the process files haven't been altered, so that you don't end
up soft-bricking your phone...
I'm not sure you can recover multiple initial states, or even the last state given the flashing cannot be undone.... (though I've never tried....)
And as for reverting back to stock motoblur you will need to use the sbf flash, this is because no one has made a rom of the core files to restore the motoblur ui...
Sorry does this answer???
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
banes said:
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
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Yes you can do this. But if you didn't create backups via CWM before flashing any of the ROMS then I think you are SOL. Here's what you should have done:
flash 1.2.6 -> before update root -> update to 1.5.7 -> after update root -> install CWM -> create backup via CWM recovery menu -> flash gingerblur 1.x -> create backup via CWM recvovery menu -> flash gingerblur 2.x -> create backup via CWM recovery... etc etc.
unless you want to do a fresh 1.2.6 SBF flash every time you update to the newest ROM/Theme version. But the point I'm making is backup via CWM after every major flash/change/whatever.
CWM will save the backup on your SDcard in a folder named after the date of the backup. /sdcard-ext/clockworkmod/backup/<date of backup>

[HOWTO] Update Walkthrough for those with custom ROMs

Okay, so I see there are many people that have the same questions I had yesterday trying to apply this update with a custom ROM already on my phone. Here is what you'll need and how to get your phone updated. This isn't the only way to do it, but it's what I did and it was pretty easy. It was harder finding out how to do all of this, and in what order than actually doing the process.
It will take a little while to do this, roughly 30-45 minutes.
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update on to your phone using RSD Lite, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to root the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
This should get you all updated and with your custom ROM installed.
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
Thanks a lot for this....
spitefulcheerio said:
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
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Yes, use Titanium Backup to backup your User Apps and Data, not the system apps or data. And make sure to backup to your SD Card as the flash with wipe your internal memory and your backup will be lost. I had that issue and had to reinstall all of my apps. It's minor, but still a pain in the ass.
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
IrateCustomer said:
When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
Swiftks said:
that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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Maybe because I was on 1.5.7, and flashed 1.8.3 instead of going back and OTAing the phone. That would make sense because the OTA process probably does a backup/restore during the process. As mentioned in the OP, it's only one way to do it, but there are other options.
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
Datblkbro said:
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
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I've updated the link in the OP so you can download the correct file. My apologies.
Regarding 1.8.3 sbf, which of the sfb files from the link you provided is it? They vary in size. Thanks.
You want the one with the most hits and the ridiculously long filename.
It actually has 1.8.3 buried in the name of the file. It's a few from the top.
THANK YOU this has been a big question mark for me ever since 1.83 came out. Fantastic guide.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Did the GingerBlur 3.1 get fixed when it comes to the Webtop mod? Cuz I read something about it having a problem with actually working on this Rom? Maybe that was on the 3.0, so I figure 3.1 fixed it?
PLease just a simple "yes it works" or "No, it doesn't" will suffice
Thanks
Just wanted to post my initial experience with using RSDlite to update afterting and gingerblurring it.
I followed your how to as much as I could (You should provide a link to RSDlite instructions, I had to search for it because I didn't know how to do it exactly... not a big deal but it would make it easier/idiot proof)
When I first updated via RSDlite, something must hve went wrong. At first, A triangle and lil android was haunting me on my screen... so I went to reboot.. **** [I thought I bricked it]... Then I restarted it again... DOUBLE ****... Couldn't load into recovery... I restarted a third time and it loaded up(**** YES). But for some odd reason, it said I still had to update (even though it said the firmware was @ 1.8.3.)
Everything seemed to work fine, and was able too root and ginger blur it. About a few hours later, wifi seemed wonky (kept randomly disconnecting and the update dialog came up every 15 minutes).
I ended up reflashing to 1.2.8 and OTA's all the way up to 1.8.3 and then re-rooted and blurred it. No problems since the full refresh
Hopefully everybody elses experience goes better than mine!
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
winky! said:
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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You can use Uninstaller for Root (I found it on the Market), and you can uninstall from there if you wish. Personally I see no real reason to remove it, but you can if you need to with the above referenced Uninstaller. There are a few others that can do it, but UfR is free, which is clearly a win.
564mb for the sfb??? Thats freaking huge
GreyBlur on 1.8.3
After following the steps I still show
"System Version 4.1.57MB860.ATT.us"
rooted and sideloading enabled by gladroot then flashed greyblur 2.1....little help for the n00b?

[Q] Few questions before I unlock bootloader, install Ken's GB, etc.

I'm new to the whole modding scene so I have a few questions before I unlock my bootloader, install Ken's Gingerbread, etc.:
- I'm currently on Gingerblur 4.5. To get back to "stock" (which is the starting point in the "[VIDEO] How to upgrade to Gingerbread" thread), I have to find .83 and SBF lite down to it, root, and then follow the video? Or can I just do it now without reverting back to stock (Gingerblur 4.5 does have webtop enabled FYI)?
- How do I make a backup image so if I want to revert back to stock I can easily do this? Is this done via CWM? Or are these backup images easily found in the forums?
- After doing the [VIDEO] thread as mentioned above, if I want to install another custom ROM will I have to do this process all over again or can I just enter CWM, select a .zip, and it will wipe everything and install it?
Thanks for the help.
Kaaji1359 said:
I'm new to the whole modding scene so I have a few questions before I unlock my bootloader, install Ken's Gingerbread, etc.:
- I'm currently on Gingerblur 4.5. To get back to "stock" (which is the starting point in the "[VIDEO] How to upgrade to Gingerbread" thread), I have to find .83 and SBF lite down to it, root, and then follow the video? Or can I just do it now without reverting back to stock (Gingerblur 4.5 does have webtop enabled FYI)?
You might as well flash the 1.83 .sbf just to be safe. You'll be wiping everything when you upgrade to gingerbread anyways.
- How do I make a backup image so if I want to revert back to stock I can easily do this? Is this done via CWM? Or are these backup images easily found in the forums?
By "backup" image I assume you mean "method to get back to 1.83". This is easily found in the forums. Infact, here is a link that contains the files needed to go back to 1.83:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
- After doing the [VIDEO] thread as mentioned above, if I want to install another custom ROM will I have to do this process all over again or can I just enter CWM, select a .zip, and it will wipe everything and install it?
You won't be "selecting a zip" in cwm, as most of the installing of roms is done in something called "Fastboot", but yes, it is that easy. You will just be going into fastboot and it will wipe everything and install it. You don't go back to 1.83 ever again (unless you want to). You can switch from rom to rom to rom very easily.
Thanks for the help.
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I hope this helped. If you need more help feel free to pm me (I just got into the modding scene a few weeks ago, but I've picked it up pretty quickly! )
Thanks a bunch!
Just to followup:
- By backup image I meant if I want to revert back to "stock" Gingerbread (.91). I doubt I'll ever want to flash back to .83 Froyo. Or can this "backup" process be completed using Fastboot and Ken's Gingerbread ROM found on the forums?
Hmm, is this where I find the .83 SBF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944
I'm assuming I download the FULL, not the SERVICE??
And why does it say at the top that all are unlocked?
Kaaji1359 said:
Thanks a bunch!
Just to followup:
- By backup image I meant if I want to revert back to "stock" Gingerbread (.91). I doubt I'll ever want to flash back to .83 Froyo. Or can this "backup" process be completed using Fastboot and Ken's Gingerbread ROM found on the forums?
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To revert back to stock you simply use fastboot commands with the stock system.img and boot.img files in ken's gingerbread rom found on the forums.
Regarding your 2nd post check pm.
Just chat via pm from now on (unless you want other people to answer of course)

[Q] Questions on Backup and ROM installation

Hello, relative n00b here but I'm trying to absorb as much as I possibly can...I do have a few questions that I haven't been able to quite find the answer to.
1.) Is there a way to backup my phone the way I could with my DIncredible? (full system image...if not, something that I could easily recover to if I don't like a ROM)?
2.) What is the process for installing new ROMs? I have tried P3's pre-rooted GB build but found my battery life to be horrendous (coupled with the fact that I tried installing an incorrect version of an Atrix recovery and had to SBF back to Froyo)
Do I just load up the bootstrap and rename the ROM as update.zip, or is there an easier way to do this?
ANY help is appreciated guys, thanks!
If you're rooted already, load the bootstrap and you can flash through the modified recovery. There's no need to rename anything in that you can navigate to your zip file once in recovery & flash away just like in regular clockworkmod or amonra's recovery.
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Jazz559 said:
... I have tried P3's pre-rooted GB build but found my battery life to be horrendous (coupled with the fact that I tried installing an incorrect version of an Atrix recovery and had to SBF back to Froyo)...
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I'm also a relative noob. I'm pretty sure that P3's pre-rooted GB is the OTA update with no changes other than the fact that it's rooted. I recommend going through the update process and taking the time to reset the phone at each step. Run GB for a while without restoring your old apps and data from a back up and see if your battery life changes. (Assuming of course, that you didn't already try this).
I had really bad battery life after upgrading too. I got excited and did it without resetting the phone properly. I charged my phone to 100%. Then I SBF'd back to Froyo again, made sure to wipe the data and cache, went through set up, flashed P3's GB and wiped again and went through set up again.
Then, I did not recover my apps from a backup. I re-installed them manually from the market and set up my accounts manually. Then I calibrated my battery. After freezing quite a bit of the bloat, my phone is now getting much better battery life and is MUCH faster and smoother.

[Q] Is a 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 update possible? (when it's available)

I'm thinking about SBFing my rooted x2 back to 2.3.3 from 2.3.4 because of the terrible battery indicator, and was just wondering if I would be able to update straight to 2.3.5 (or possibly ICS) when the update comes. I don't know why this wouldn't be possible, but I just wanted to make sure before I actually SBFed the phone.
I also was wondering if my phone would still be rooted after the SBF because of the maintain-root-through-any-update mod. Any thoughts?
On a different note, if I had the x2 bootstrap, the maintain-root-through-any-update mod, and MyBackup Root, could I just backup all my apps and the system (using MyBackup Root and the bootstrap, respectively), SBF, then restore the phone by downloading the bootstrap and MyBackup Root and restoring my apps/system? Would this get my back to where I was before, or would I have to manually download each one of my apps and lose all previous data that I had on them? I'm just wondering what's the easiest way to restore my phone back to the layout that I had before I SBFed.
Thanks for your answers to any of these 3 questions!!! I definitely appreciate it.
germmeetsworld said:
I'm thinking about SBFing my rooted x2 back to 2.3.3 from 2.3.4 because of the terrible battery indicator, and was just wondering if I would be able to update straight to 2.3.5 (or possibly ICS) when the update comes. I don't know why this wouldn't be possible, but I just wanted to make sure before I actually SBFed the phone.
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Perhaps someone elses experience proves different however, I kept 2.2.2 on my DX2 for quite some time because of similar reasons. When I decided to take the plunge from 2.2.2 and upgraded to 2.3.4 OTA, my phone needed to first upgrade to 2.3.3 before it would upgrade to 2.3.4. Thus, I had to perform two separate OTA updates.
If you're going to SBF you can SBF directly from your current version to the desired version.
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I also was wondering if my phone would still be rooted after the SBF because of the maintain-root-through-any-update mod. Any thoughts?
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To be honest, I'm not sure. I personally prefer to SBF to a clean DX2, wiping all settings and cache. To me I treat it like formatting my computer with a clean install of it's OS.
Perhaps someone else will have more insight with the maintain root through updates mod.
germmeetsworld said:
On a different note, if I had the x2 bootstrap, the maintain-root-through-any-update mod, and MyBackup Root, could I just backup all my apps and the system (using MyBackup Root and the bootstrap, respectively), SBF, then restore the phone by downloading the bootstrap and MyBackup Root and restoring my apps/system? Would this get my back to where I was before, or would I have to manually download each one of my apps and lose all previous data that I had on them? I'm just wondering what's the easiest way to restore my phone back to the layout that I had before I SBFed.
Thanks for your answers to any of these 3 questions!!! I definitely appreciate it.
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What I typically do is using the X2 Bootstrap, I make a Nandroid backup and restore directly from that. Performing an SBF is only going to be necessary if the backup was on a different kernel, otherwise if you may run into boot looping.
What exactly happened and what are you trying to do? Are you trying to restore your phone to an earlier point via SBF? As in you enjoyed the phone on 2.3.3, made a backup and now you're unhappy on 2.3.4 and wish to go back?
It sounds like if you were to SBF back to your desired version (the version you made the backups on) you would then be able to apply your backups and should be back to your desired phone state.
I'm slightly confused to the details due to the way it's worded. I know it's somewhat difficult to describe but that's the basic idea I'm getting. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or fill in the blanks.
Is 2.3.5 much better?
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Okay so what I did was SBF back to 2.3.3 (I did this two nights ago) and before I did that, I:
1. Renamed the bloatware back to .apk (I had the suffix's ".bak" as an alternate "freezing" method).
2. Used MyBackup Root to make a backup of all my apps+their data.
3. Made a backup of the phone using the bootstrap.
4. SBFed
5. Rooted
6. Downloaded MyBackup Root
7. Restored all my apps and data and it worked!!!
8. Celebrated! I had no faith in it working but all my apps are back! I was so impressed, I was expecting to have to redo all my games and everything. MyBackup Root is such a sweet app, or I'm just a loser.
I hoped this helped other people, I had no idea what was gonna happen, no one's ever told me how to specifically get my phone back to the layout that I wanted.
and related to reaktor's post, what I was doing was SBFing back to my desired state of 2.3.3, just because I hate the battery glitch on 2.3.4. It had nothing to do with any apps I had, sorry for the confusion.
Your last reply was a little off but that was my fault, I'm sorry for my wording haha. I just have never known how to NOT have to redownload all my apps and start over on my games' data once I restore/SBF a phone. Now I know.
BTW my phone didn't maintain its root, just for reference for others. I had to reroot.
Well... You might want to do that again. There's now a battery fix for 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 in the dev forum.
Pepperm1nt's battery fix thread @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350336
It works great
Greatttttt haha all that fer nuthin. I may update again, or I just might wait til I get bored with the phone again to install this. Thanks a bunch for the link though!
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The battery fix works great. Just flash it over stock or any custom rom. It works perfect!

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