Seriously in doubt between these phones
Any help?
Thank you!
Galaxy S II
pick ur poison
SGS2-samsungs terrible update record, crappy plastic, internal sd problems.
Atrix-bootloader locked.
As a former Galaxy S (Captivate) and now an Atrix owner....Go with the Galaxy S II.
-Thinner
-No signed bootloader
-Touchwiz>>>>>>>>Motoblur
-I think the Exynos processor is besting the Tegra 2.
I say Atrix because more games/apps will be otimized for Tegra than Exynos. I haven't heard of anything optimized for the Samsung chip yet. There is a reason why all tablet makers are including the Tegra 2. Also even the Samsung Galaxy SII will be using Tegra 2 in some regions. Also there hasn't been any proof that the Galaxy SII won't be locked down in some ways.
Other things to consider...
1. No HDMI port
2. No finger print scanner
3. Lower Resolution Screen
4. No docks of any type
5. Less Battery Life
6. Slower Updates from Samsung
7. Builld Quality from past Galaxy S (GPS not working)
rex-tc said:
I say Atrix because more games/apps will be otimized for Tegra than Exynos. I haven't heard of anything optimized for the Samsung chip yet. There is a reason why all tablet makers are including the Tegra 2. Also even the Samsung Galaxy SII will be using Tegra 2 in some regions. Also there hasn't been any proof that the Galaxy SII won't be locked down in some ways.
Other things to consider...
1. No HDMI port
2. No finger print scanner
3. Lower Resolution Screen
4. No docks of any type
5. Less Battery Life
6. Slower Updates from Samsung
7. Builld Quality from past Galaxy S (GPS not working)
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Lower resolution = faster performance...
But Once this Atrix gets that update. I'm sure it will blow every phone out of the water for a couple months. If you really want to know whats better for you. do some research from youtube and comparison videos.
Keep us updated on your pick!
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Other things to consider...
1. No HDMI port
2. No finger print scanner
3. Lower Resolution Screen
4. No docks of any type
5. Less Battery Life
6. Slower Updates from Samsung
7. Builld Quality from past Galaxy S (GPS not working)
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1. Galaxy S2 does have HDMI
2. Meh
3. Actually more subpixels on RGB 800x480 (1.15M) than pentile 960x540 (1.04M)
4. Even bigger meh
5. Who knows but probably a bit less, it has a bigger screen and is much thinner (8.5mm vs 11mm)
6. People say this and yet Samsung updates faster than HTC or Motorola, 2.3 update for SGS has been temporarily pulled but it will still beat 2.3 for Desire. Carriers are what delay beyond Samsung releases, they also delay Moto and HTC releases (have fun waiting for carrier releases with locked bootloader)
7. We'll see, I don't think they'll make this mistake again, but they'll probably make others. How about that Atrix multi-touch?
I wish I can return my atrix for a galaxy s 2.
It is a personal preferences but after having used the Captivate prior to getting my Xperia, I would definitely choose the Atrix.
its too early to say, depends on what problems the galaxy s2 has. if its anything like the captivate then no. the reception sucked on the captivate, i used to get so many dropped calls and gps was crap. maybe if they fixed these problems.
They both suck, wait for dual core HTC anything.
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As a former Captivate owner I am VERY impressed with the Atrix. I loved my Captivate but wow:
1 Atrix is MUCH faster multitasking.
2 Atrix battery life is much better.
3 Atrix GPS is 100x better.
4 Higher Res screen is great.
5 HDMI port is handy.
6 Phone reception is MUCH better with Atrix.
I still miss the amazing contrast of the Super AMOLED screen, unlocked bootloader, and would like the 4.3" screen.
I may return my Atrix for Galaxy II, just to try it but at this point I don't think I could live with the weak battery and most likely a decrease in cell and GPS reception.
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Exador said:
They both suck, wait for dual core HTC anything.
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I too would love to see a Tegra 2 HTC pyramid style something. After owning the captivate, I would choose my atrix over the Galaxy SII. At least motorola has a much better form of communication and much faster update track record.
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1. Galaxy S2 does have HDMI
2. Meh
3. Actually more subpixels on RGB 800x480 (1.15M) than pentile 960x540 (1.04M)
4. Even bigger meh
5. Who knows but probably a bit less, it has a bigger screen and is much thinner (8.5mm vs 11mm)
6. People say this and yet Samsung updates faster than HTC or Motorola, 2.3 update for SGS has been temporarily pulled but it will still beat 2.3 for Desire. Carriers are what delay beyond Samsung releases, they also delay Moto and HTC releases (have fun waiting for carrier releases with locked bootloader)
7. We'll see, I don't think they'll make this mistake again, but they'll probably make others. How about that Atrix multi-touch?
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1. No actual HDMI output you have to use USB port which means you have to run off battery.
2. Finger print scanner is pretty cool imo.
3. 200,000 less physical pixels who cares about subpixels it still renders less. It only displays one of those colored subpixels at a time. Not to mention the ppi will be worse also.
4. Still important
5. I have seen side by side images the dimensions they looked about the same.
6. We will see on that one but I wouldn't hold my breath on them beating Motorola or HTC as far as updates go.
7. The Matrix multi-touch is a softare issue that Motorla said they will fix a future update. Nothing with build quality.
I am getting the galaxy s2 when it comes out just because I like having new phones when they come out
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Mossys said:
Lower resolution = faster performance...
But Once this Atrix gets that update. I'm sure it will blow every phone out of the water for a couple months. If you really want to know whats better for you. do some research from youtube and comparison videos.
Keep us updated on your pick!
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Well the same Tegra 2 is pushing the Xoom at 1280x800 so qHD should be just fine.
i'll prolly get one once it hits state side
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a lot of people might tell you the exynos processor in the SGSII is better than the tegra2 in the Atrix. That is wrong. The atrix can get near the SGSII in benchmarks and it is a full version behind as well as pushing more pixels. When the Atrix gets 2.3 it will be much higher in benchmarking than the SGSII.
Now benchmarking isn't everything.. The current trend is locking down bootloaders. If the SGSII is like the atrix in the bootloader position I recommend you get the Atrix. if it is unlocked then you should probably get the SGSII if you like custom roms. Hopefully the Atrix gets unlocked because it is a beast of a device. Much better over all than the SGSII but the bootloader is its weak point.
I've got another upgrade due in April of 2012. Can't wait to see what'll be out by then xD Hopefully quad core phones with 2 GB RAM!
Anyways: my vote is wait for the SGSII to actually come out, and see if the bootloader is encrypted or not. Can't go by manufacture's name anymore (HTC I'm looking at you)
Anyways, if it is anything like my Captivate, I'll pass. The GPS problem, the horrible updates, all things to consider. However, that SAMOLED screen makes my eyes drool.
Touchwiz is just a crappy iOS knockoff interface, IMO. If I wanted the iOS look, I'll use my iPhone.
It will have docks... do some research first.
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Honest question here. I'm having a hard time finding the atrix for less than 600$ considering that i live in Venezuela. Today i have just learned that the Nexus S is coming to at&t (don't know when)
I have seen people on this forum that has the Nexus S and bought the atrix.
Can you try to make an objective review of both devices?
So far, what i know:
-Same size
-Much better screen on the nexus, although with a smaller resolution
-Dual core on the atrix, single core on the nexus, but different processors (samsung makes their own chip)
-Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
-Stock home screen on the nexus, blur on the atrix.
-Unlockable bootloader on the nexus, signed on the atrix
-SIM-unlocked on the nexus, at&t locked on the atrix
-Better build quality on the atrix
-Laptop dock, media dock on the atrix (i don't care about them)
-LED light on the atrix, which i like since i am using a blackberry
-Smaller RAM on the nexus, although none wasted for the laptop dock
-Gyroscope on the nexus
-NFC on the nexus
-Bigger battery on the atrix (that doesn't mean it is better than the nexus)
-Slightly better camera on the nexus (no blue/purple tint) for still photos, but not even 720p that is on the atrix
For those that have both, what has been your experience?
you more than likely won't get honest answers here. The nexus S fanboys will come crap on the atrix, teh atrix fans will tell them to F-off and leave, and none will help you.
decide what is important to you in a phone, then see which device fits that list better.
As a long term investment I would pick the Atrix because I'm sure that we will see custom ROMs and the fact that it is dual core probably means it will take more time to get outdated.
Also, while may not be important to everyone in every case, the Nexus S lacks an SD card slot so you're stuck with the 16gb of internal memory.
In my case, that in itself is a deal breaker...
- Much better screen on the nexus, although with a smaller resolution
* This honestly comes down to preference. I love the Atrix screen, it's like night and day coming from a Nexus One. I think the Nexus S' colors are way off for me and I'll be damned if I find a difference between the Atrix and iPhone 4 when looking at them straight and for 99% of common use.
- Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
* I don't see the benefits of Gingerbread until version 2.4 (dual core support), so right now, they're equal IMO.
- Stock home screen on the nexus, blur on the atrix.
* Blur isn't that bad, I actually like it. It's no where near as intrusive as HTC Sense or as lame as Samsung TouchWiz. Try it, you'll like it.
- SIM-unlocked on the nexus, at&t locked on the atrix
* I bet it won't be long before unlock codes are available online
- Better build quality on the atrix
* No arguing that.
- Laptop dock, media dock on the atrix (i don't care about them)
* Meh, they're a gimmick IMO
- LED light on the atrix, which i like since i am using a blackberry
* Once you get used to it, there is no going back.
- Gyroscope on the nexus
* Android isn't known for gaming, so I fail to see the need for one
- NFC on the nexus
* Until 2015 (sarcasm) where it's adopted by everyone, it's a gimmick
- Bigger battery on the atrix (that doesn't mean it is better than the nexus)
* No, it's better.
- Slightly better camera on the nexus (no blue/purple tint) for still photos, but not even 720p that is on the atrix
* Excuse us, that would 1080p on the Atrix, soon at least
spielnicht said:
- Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
* I don't see the benefits of Gingerbread until version 2.4 (dual core support), so right now, they're equal IMO.
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for the last time, the froyo build on the atrix supports multi-core. It's all the apps that need to be re-written to make use of it. Even the ones that don't are still seeing a 1Ghz processor, which is on par with the rest of the smart phone world.
Dude your starting a flame war there both top end devices you can't go wrong with any pick Done.
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Sounds to me like you've already got your mind made up, go ahead and get that Nexus.
Thanks for correcting me, somehow I missed that bit of information.
So there you have it, aside from the improved power management and maybe SIP, we don't get that much "new" stuff over Froyo. Granted, I wish we did have that fancy copy-n-paste. Why am I reminded of Apple all of a sudden?
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for the last time, the froyo build on the atrix supports multi-core. It's all the apps that need to be re-written to make use of it. Even the ones that don't are still seeing a 1Ghz processor, which is on par with the rest of the smart phone world.
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Whatever you pick will be top end if you like to hack and want updates and the best viewing screen or want to do hard core games in the near future witch android is on the rise each day with games from ios then you want nexus s and its gyroscope.But if you don't care to flash and hack but wanna try out the first DC phone and all it brings in its young stage along with a laptop terminal go Atrix or you can just buy the new redfly witch is the same thing and works on any Android device like the atrix Doc but again you can't go wrong
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Unless you're not really a big fan of racing games or those marble labyrinth-type games.... at which point the idea of the gyroscope is even more pointless.
elementaldragon said:
Unless you're not really a big fan of racing games or those marble labyrinth-type games.... at which point the idea of the gyroscope is even more pointless.
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I don't know what the obsession people have the gyroscope is - no other phones have it at this point except the iPhone 4. The Atrix has a motion sensor which is a MEMS chip similar to whats in PS3 controllers, PS3 Move controllers, the Wii, etc. The phone is plenty able to support motion gaming just as all previous Android phones have been assuming they've been powerful enough in the processor / RAM department to do so.
I'm actually very interested in the Nexus S vs Atrix 4G debate.
Here's why I am reluctant to get the Atrix 4G, please try to refute these points:
1) Froyo/Blur: It won't get Ice Cream before Christmas. Ditto for Gtalk video chat which is quite important for me.
2) The locked/signed/encrypted Bootloader issue: The Atrix might never get custom ROMs. If it ever does, it will take forever for hackers to make Ice Cream dual-core optimized, then Tegra 2 optimized....etc.
3) PenTile LCD: Sure the NS is PenTile too, but Super AMOLED makes up for that with insane contrasts.
4) Camera: Produced images seemed a bit underwhelming.
Here's why I want the Atrix 4G:
1) Tegra 2 (although there seems to be little real life benefits to it); won't be outdated soon.
2) 720/1080p recording
3) Excellent build quality, with gimmicks like the fingerprint reader
4) I actually like Motoblur widgets
And here's why I am reluctant to get the Nexus S:
1) No 720p video recording(!)
2) Plastic, cheap case (especially the back)
3) No HSPA+ support
4) Old-gen SoC (although in real life peforms close to a Tegra 2 with Froyo)
And finally, here's why I want the Nexus S:
1) Super AMOLED colors and contrasts look breathtaking
2) Will get Ice Cream, (along with Gtalk video) the moment it's released in May/June -no need to wait months for hackers to optimize it (provided that the bootloader issue is solved)
3) Costs $100-$150 less
So since money is a big deal for me, I'm thinking I'll get Nexus S for the year, and by Christmas 2011, I can get the new Dual-core Nexus (with the new Android) or get a Terga 3 phone, or maybe even a Glasses-free 3D phone....
What do you guys think?
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...with gimmicks like the fingerprint reader
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Trust me when I tell you this is no gimmick, but an extremely useful and valid feature. If you connect to a Corporate Exchange account that requires a PIN, you have no idea how annoying it is to have to type that 6 digit code every time you switch the phone on (thanks 2.2.1 update, sigh). With the biometric sensor...it doesn't require it from you (optional if you want it). If I were to ignore all the great benefits of owning the Atrix and just focus on the sensor...it's enough to justify getting the phone.
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Trust me when I tell you this is no gimmick, but an extremely useful and valid feature. If you connect to a Corporate Exchange account that requires a PIN, you have no idea how annoying it is to have to type that 6 digit code every time you switch the phone on (thanks 2.2.1 update, sigh). With the biometric sensor...it doesn't require it from you (optional if you want it). If I were to ignore all the great benefits of owning the Atrix and just focus on the sensor...it's enough to justify getting the phone.
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I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965615
TareX said:
I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965615
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GPS is another reason you don't have listed. GPS on the NS is just as bad as the Captivate/I9k. On the Atrix I got a lock inside a concrete and steel building, which seemed like a miracle to me after my Captivate experience.
People that are happy with their phone don't take the time to post about how great it is.
I'm loving mine so far. I'm not sure that the people who are saying that things are sluggish or slow aren't just making things up to try and make people as miserable as they are.
As for custom roms.... most of the time people clamor to them because the base experience is bad. (e.g. captivate) I haven't seen a need for it yet, especially since we had tethering available out of the box already.
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I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
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You also got to realized that this is a forum. People ask questions/complain when something doesnt work. That is why you are seeing all these hate threads to the atrix. Also, the trend these days is to complain when some thing isnt spoon fed to you. I personally love my new atrix and i havent had a single thing become an issue for me.
I personally love the display on the atrix over the nexus s. Reason is because I would rather look at natural colors instead of seeing super saturatured colors. All my other displays use natural colors (computers, tv's).
I also love the finger print reader on this phone. It has worked every time I have used it but then again im not trying to make the thing read a finger swipe thats only .0001 seconds long...
We are all on the same team here, Andriod is much better then Ios and phones will continue to keep being pushed out every 2 months. I would sit the two phones next to each other and pick one that works best for you because two months from now that phone wont be the best anymore.
1) You will more than likely get Ice Cream before Xmas on the Atrix. Rumored to be released this summer so that should give Moto plenty of time to integrate it. With Nexus you are pretty much guaranteed to get the update once available.
2) Moto has stated they are working to allow devs to unlock the bootloader eventually. This is like point 1), the uncertainty of trusting Motorola but I think it will happen, just a matter of when.
3) Personal preference. I prefer the Atrix screen over Nexus S for the most part simply because I need to see my screen outdoors.
4) They are. Not much different than any other Android device out there. However, I installed Camera360 for my phone app which has helped get some great shots.
It might help to really prioritize your needs and see which one stacks up like others have said. For me it was Performance, Battery, Size/Weight, Display, Future relevance, Connectivity, Expandability. Atrix wins on all counts in that respect.
Here's why I am reluctant to get the Atrix 4G, please try to refute these points:
1) Froyo/Blur: It won't get Ice Cream before Christmas. Ditto for Gtalk video chat which is quite important for me.
2) The locked/signed/encrypted Bootloader issue: The Atrix might never get custom ROMs. If it ever does, it will take forever for hackers to make Ice Cream dual-core optimized, then Tegra 2 optimized....etc.
3) PenTile LCD: Sure the NS is PenTile too, but Super AMOLED makes up for that with insane contrasts.
4) Camera: Produced images seemed a bit underwhelming.
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GPS is another reason you don't have listed. GPS on the NS is just as bad as the Captivate/I9k. On the Atrix I got a lock inside a concrete and steel building, which seemed like a miracle to me after my Captivate experience.
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If that were true I wouldn't have considered a Nexus S in the first place; but it seems that the Nexus S doesn't suffer from the Galaxy S series GPS woes....
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If that were true I wouldn't have considered a Nexus S in the first place; but it seems that the Nexus S doesn't suffer from the Galaxy S series GPS woes....
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/caseinpoint
Exact opposite of what I have heard. People also claim that the GPS of the captivate works "as well as their Garmin", which, while also making the same point, I don't believe because there were about 70 threads in the captivate/i9k developer forums about trying to make it better.
Hey everyone, currently i have HTC desire and i'm about to buy a new phone... Which phone should i get? Galaxy S II,evo 3d or optimus 3d? The most thing i care about is the hardware,which phone is faster and of course updates... I've heard that galaxy s2 and optimus 3d are both great phones, but i need to pick the right one as i wont be buying another phone for a few months One thing i dont like about the galaxy s tho, is the 3 buttons. The standard buttons for an android phone are 4, right? dunno if that will lead to any probs in some apps? anyways, hope you guys can help me out to pick the right phone
Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Hmm great answer bud, and no, I'm really not that much into 3d. I'm really considering to buy this phone when it comes out, i just hope they will care enough to update their software when a new android version is out. Another reason too buy this phone is that, here in norway we will get the Exynos version that is running at 1,2 GHz.
Put 3D, AMOLED and CPU aside, i'll still favour SGSII over an HTC/LG phone because of its superior camera and audio quality.
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However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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This is so true.
btw does anyone know how many multitouch it supports?
i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
I'm also on the HTC desire, and the memory issues have forced me to set A2SD (SLOW) in order to make the phone useable.
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
I'm going for the Galaxy S 2. Amazing g camera, I love the build quality, I like the slim design, and the speed will be awesome.
They're all great phones but I don't really need aa 3D display, nor do I want one. I life in a 3D world, I don't want my movies to be in 3D, it takes away from the experience.
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IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
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The Desire and Nexus One were the last devices HTC put that pathetic touch screen on. The latest thing I heard HTC used was the Maxtouch, which supposedly supports "unlimited" (probably 10-16) touches.
Even so, I still would get the SGSII. It just seems amazing.
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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HTC launches 5 phones to beat the competition and Samsung release one phone....like Samsung Galaxy s was most selling Android Device ever...mean while HTC release a new phone every month like crazy....lol....LG has some good android phones but none can beat galaxy S series..so forget about Galaxy S2....I use galaxy S and I am telling you i cannot live without SAMOLED screen...just imagine advance version of that...
Even in this comparison between HTC sensation and SGS 2,......I think Samsung beat HTC again......Even tho I dont know how good TouchWiz 4.0 will be...But still it will be better then HTC sense...And I am hoping it will be easy to root and Custom Rommed as Current galaxy S series...Looking forward to buy this phone...
Kailkti said:
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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well, i dont know aswell, if the chip is based on smaller nm scale then yeah that would probably make a bit more sense as it would require less voltage, but i have no information about the chip differences right now.
Just a waiting game until the device is out.
If OC'ing this device does actually occur (which it eventually would), then I wonder the affect it would have on the battery. Although, I think having Dual Core 1.2Ghz is quite sufficient at the moment.
I guess there will be diffrent profiles so you can change clock and volt.
So it takes less power on standby .
On my Noka N900 i have a widget so i can change overclock in seconds.
950mhz when surfing and when i need to save batteri i choise another profile ..
C'mon this thing is a savage beast ! I would rather think of Underclocking it ! Exynos Dual core at 1Ghz should be sufficient to do EVERYTHING you can do on an android smartphone and that includes the most demanding games and every task you can imagine, I mean just watch all the vids of those prototypes runnig buttery smooth and they're all running at 1Ghz
OMG I can't wait this is so epic
Do you think that the s2 is still the best and fastest smartphone in the market ? Its faster than the iphone 4s and anything that has came out so far including snapdragon gs2s and will probably be faster than the galaxy nexus with the ti omap processor in it i think it is still the king what about you ? And it will get better still with the ics update
yes...............
Ofcourse..untill prime launches..it wl remain d king..
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I'd absolutely agree with that. And by the way... There WILL be better phones in the future, but I think the SGS II is an amazing device and I don't see any phone overtaking the SGS II at the moment.
As you said, the new Nexus is... err... let's say it's "okay". To me, the Galaxy Nexus is more a platform to show the possibilities of Ice cream sandwich than anything else...
Performance wise yes, but it does have its own faults too.
Well about the nexus acorrding to this artical its processor is slower than the s2 but well have to wait and see i dont think it will beat the exynos and mali 400 in speed
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Sorry heres the link http://www.extremetech.com/computin...evealed-slower-than-the-iphone-4s-galaxy-s-ii
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Ofcourse it is, this gadget is like Elvis King forever and ever.
STILL no other phone can match the SGSII so yes it still reigns supreme
I believe the Galaxy Nexus to be a slightly superior phone (mainly due to 720p and ICS). That being said, the GSII has had an amazingly long run of dominance for the majority of this year. And in that time, the developer community has had a chance to grow by leaps and bounds.
The Galaxy Nexus may be a superior phone on paper, but until their developer community becomes as robust as that of the GSII, we're still looking really good for the rest of this year.
Hey dose anyone know if the s2 is faster than the new moto razr because i think that is the same cpu as the nexus
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SGSII will be King at 4.3" for a while. Kudos for not being shaped like a boomerang as well.
For me its a yes and a no.
The SGS2 GPU is no match for the iPhone 4S, unless you overclock the Mali it somewhat close to the SGX543. But the iPhone 4S CPU is clocked at 700mhz whereas the S2 1.2Ghz.
The galaxy nexus is no match for the sgs2 (exynos). The only thing it has is 720p screen which to me, is useless on a screen that fits in my hand. Other than the screen I cant find one thing better.
Yeah the iphone 4s might have a slightly better gpu but the s2 is still a bit faster than it plus once ics comes out it will get even faster
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once ics comes out it will get even faster
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Famous last words. We don't know this to be a fact.
I can not understand those people who always mess with display size, who in the right mind would carry 4,7" phone !! This 4,3" is too big, I really hope that Samsung will make Galaxy S 3 with 4" display and 720p resolution, that is the perfect measure for mobile phone, that Galaxy Nexus is great but WAAAY too big. Phone should not be bigger than 4" and after that they should make tablets.
Just my 2 cents on the Galaxy Nexus
Just take into consideration that the Galaxy nexus will not have hard buttons thus no need for that space in the bottom of our gs2s...
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I agree its a bit too large, though I have small hands thus making it a bit difficult for me to "thumb" the display with one hand without tapping the back button or part of the screen as I reach across the display. HOWEVER, keep this in mind. Its much easier to make a high resolution display at a larger size than it is to make it in a smaller size. Pixel density is more difficult to increase than is overall resolution, thus why these larger displays are going to be the first to get 720p displays.
I like 4.3, maybe even 4.5" with the right aspect (ie, make the display a bit taller than wider). But more than that will make one handed operation more difficult. That being said, as someone who constantly uses their phone to watch videos, I do like the idea of the larger display. Oh well, that's why we have sim cards right? Pop it into your nexus, watch some tv, then back in the GSII for normal day to day operations. Awesome. I only hope the Galaxy Nexus eventually comes with ATT's LTE bands at some point (I know Verizon has their grubby little exclusivity fingers on the lte version, horrible how much money talks more than consumer demand...)... But if not, still a very nice phone.
I think the fact that I see the comercial about the S II (and it being claimed the smartphone of the year) at least everyday on TV in the Netherlands... is enough to say that the S II is great
Hey everyone,
I was wondering which phone you think I should get. I currently have the HTC EVO 3D but I think I want to try out Samsung for at least a year. I have pretty big hands, so the Note wouldn't be too big for me. Should I wait for Sprint's Galaxy Note, or Sprint's Galaxy S3? Thanks!
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Here is a video comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dalZz_aknX4
Saw the video. It's pretty good, but doesn't the Galaxy Note already have Ice Cream Sandwich?
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Saw the video. It's pretty good, but doesn't the Galaxy Note already have Ice Cream Sandwich?
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ICS on note is officially released only in certain parts of the world, India & Germany were the first ones to get em other countries should follow soon.
I am a note owner but will be migrating to the S3, Note's great but is already an older gen phone with the quad cores coming in.
If I were you I would get either an S3 or wait for the Note 2.
PS: Will receive my S3 on the 30th and post the comparisons/impressions.
The Note will get ICS worldwide at some point or another so personally I wouldn't take that too much into account.
It boils down to screen size plus s-pen vs. quad core plus newer touchwiz. It depends if you value screen size or processing power more?
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The Note will get ICS worldwide at some point or another so personally I wouldn't take that too much into account.
It boils down to screen size plus s-pen vs. quad core plus newer touchwiz. It depends if you value screen size or processing power more?
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There are a few other things to it - the S3 is very likely to have higher audio quality, it also has BT 4.0 and Apt-X, full exFAT support, options for higher interal storage, better USB OTG support, slightly better camera quality and usability, and as you say better processor and GPU. Depends on a few things which will matter to some and not others.
I have a Note and will be doing lots of comparisons at http://www.AndroidNZ.net
I had the note. It is the exact same copy of the att samsung skyrocket but with a bigger screen. I wasnt impressed, its specs are outdated.
Now that ICS is out for the Note its a tough choice......Already have ICS and its a LOT faster than GB on the Note. I like using the pen as well.
For bench markers and spec buyers the S3 has a lot more to offer on paper. In reality though, for me, the DAC is the only thing I KNOW I will definitively realize the difference and not so much until SuperCurio does his magic..The only reason I would like to try an S3 is to get the Wolfson DAC and Voodoo sound back. Otherwise the screen size and the pen make the Note still viable for me.
Everything else is fine on the Note and specs are at the point where they can be measured better but not always realized in actual everyday use.
The point of diminishing returns has arrived. I have never used my OTG USB attachment or the HDMI attachments. I have 16GB plus 64GB storage and never was limited by the 2 GB limitation. 2GB is a HUGE single file. So look at ALL the capabilities and decide what is important to you as far as what you will actually NEED
Your decision based on those parameters will be easy...... I would keep the Note myself and wait a few months to see if Samsung rumors reveal a Note II with S3 specs.
i was one of the people who moved from Note to S3, i still have my note though... my personal notes after 5 days of s3 use:
1. Note Screen is still Bigger, better for reading larger texts although at the same S3 Screen shows better Colors and more CRISP font and i enjoy it actually.
2. Note PEN is unbeatable in all ways... i miss it. it did not work on s3, a special s3 pen is required it seems and it maybe coming soon.
3. S3 performasnce is way better than note... it is noticable in every aspect. Samsung i beleieve have worked well on the software in overall This Time.
4. i did not notice any battery drain on s3 at all, it lasts even more than NOTE which is bigger battery. knowing i am using 3G or WIFI always on, one of them always on. i have tried all GB and ICS Roms on NOTE.
5. S3 lacks MASS STORAGE! it uses only MTP option.
6. S3 is great for portability, Large screen and Lightweight at the same time.
7. those who think S3 design is not good, you have to hold it in your hand, for me i see it very nice ...
8. S3 does not include Polaris office full version or even Photo Editor that comes with note!
9. for now i will keep Using S3, i love it now but maybe if the nostalgia hits, i will use the note also
This is what i think of now...
I bought my note on 20th March 2012, and sold it on 19th May 2012, I will be buying GSIII, it will be launching here on 31st.
The reason I sold note was the size of it it is too big for me, but the screen size is really nice for browsing and watching videos, I think SIII wont be far behind Note but much more pocket-able, and easy to use, at least for me.
Galaxy S3 if you ask me.
i just bought my note 3 weeks ago now i'm buying the SIII ill keep both then sell one of them after few months
Note, if you need the pen. And of course, because of its size, the Note is also a great hand fan
hmmmm it sounds like the galaxy s3 is the phone to get. although I think I'll just get whatever comes first to sprint.
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There are a few other things to it - the S3 is very likely to have higher audio quality, it also has BT 4.0 and Apt-X, full exFAT support, options for higher interal storage, better USB OTG support, slightly better camera quality and usability, and as you say better processor and GPU. Depends on a few things which will matter to some and not others.
I have a Note and will be doing lots of comparisons at http://www.AndroidNZ.net
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What the advantage of full exFAT support if my Note reads fine my microSDXC64gb?
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i was one of the people who moved from Note to S3, i still have my note though... my personal notes after 5 days of s3 use:
1. Note Screen is still Bigger, better for reading larger texts although at the same S3 Screen shows better Colors and more CRISP font and i enjoy it actually.
2. Note PEN is unbeatable in all ways... i miss it. it did not work on s3, a special s3 pen is required it seems and it maybe coming soon.
3. S3 performasnce is way better than note... it is noticable in every aspect. Samsung i beleieve have worked well on the software in overall This Time.
4. i did not notice any battery drain on s3 at all, it lasts even more than NOTE which is bigger battery. knowing i am using 3G or WIFI always on, one of them always on. i have tried all GB and ICS Roms on NOTE.
5. S3 lacks MASS STORAGE! it uses only MTP option.
6. S3 is great for portability, Large screen and Lightweight at the same time.
7. those who think S3 design is not good, you have to hold it in your hand, for me i see it very nice ...
8. S3 does not include Polaris office full version or even Photo Editor that comes with note!
9. for now i will keep Using S3, i love it now but maybe if the nostalgia hits, i will use the note also
This is what i think of now...
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Asking out of curiosity, how will you use two phones ?
Alternate days ? Or switch weekly ? Or use both all the time with two seperate Sims ?
I've a sgs2. I want to move to sgs3 because of superior screen and good audio quality. But I don't want to sell my sgs2.
Can't figure out how I'll use both ?
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Asking out of curiosity, how will you use two phones ?
Alternate days ? Or switch weekly ? Or use both all the time with two seperate Sims ?
I've a sgs2. I want to move to sgs3 because of superior screen and good audio quality. But I don't want to sell my sgs2.
Can't figure out how I'll use both ?
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i actually don't use both at the same time. i am using s3 now 99% of the time.
i just cant let it down, i.e. the note ... it was perfect during the previous 6 months... so i may end up playing with it from time to time at home without sim...
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2. Note PEN is unbeatable in all ways... i miss it. it did not work on s3, a special s3 pen is required it seems and it maybe coming soon.
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Well, the S Pen on the Galaxy Note is actually an inductive stylus. The phone itself has the wacom digitizer built-in, that's why it is said to be for the niche market; and not so for the S III. So, only the capacitive stylus is compatible with the S III.
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I think that 4.8" screen is enugh for browsing, gaminig...
In my opinion Note is too big for use with one hand.
I had an AT&T Note for almost a month, but in anticipation for the S3 I returned it. The main reasons I wanted the S3 over the Note:
- Battery: I wasn't happy with the longevity of the Note's battery. I didn't want to have to baby it (constantly monitor RAM/Programs) to get adequate usage out of it. The battery wasn't horrible by any means, but having that big beautiful screen didn't mean as much if you couldn't get enough time out of it on a full charge. (btw I kept everything stock so my exp with the battery pertains to that)
- Size: I tried my best to get used to the large size of the Note, but found that it was just a tad too big for me in the end. The one-handed use of it just wasn't practical for me, even though I did adapt to the size somewhat. Having a hybrid phone/tab was great, but I found that I missed the ease of a smaller device when multi-tasking with my other hand.
Those two factors were what really pushed me towards the S3. I felt the 4.8" would be a perfect match for size/practical use. And the battery sounds like it's definitely a winner too.
I don't think i will upgrade to s3 over note ill wait for note2 just saying.........
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i have a month with my note and nothing out there tickles my fancy.
when you get used to the large screen, there is no going back, from my experience.
my friend bought the s3 and im like meh its cool and all but that difference
on screen real estate has me hooked. i didnt get the buzz until i had 2 days with
the note.
i thought viewing excel documents on the s2 was a huuuuuge difference coming from the torch.
i thought viewing excel documents coming from the bold to the torch was a huuuge leap.
WTF the NOTE blows everything out of the water, all other phones are not worthy
Found another reason today to love our Notes over the SIII....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
Haven't heard a report of Notes melting yet!
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Found another reason today to love our Notes over the SIII....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
Haven't heard a report of Notes melting yet!
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Wow that's crazy.
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I just recently switched from the Iphone4 to the Galaxy Note....I was really planning on getting the S3 when it came out (I bought Note outright no contract from Craigslist) and the more I play with the Note...the less I want to switch. I mean they have the same specs except for the Note a bigger screen. Plus with the custom roms you can have almost everything a S3 has as far as features...why spend the extra cash for less screen and a few other features?
Oh and there is NO WAY IN HELL I will ever go back to Apple!
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I just recently switched from the Iphone4 to the Galaxy Note....I was really planning on getting the S3 when it came out (I bought Note outright no contract from Craigslist) and the more I play with the Note...the less I want to switch. I mean they have the same specs except for the Note a bigger screen. Plus with the custom roms you can have almost everything a S3 has as far as features...why spend the extra cash for less screen and a few other features?
Oh and there is NO WAY IN HELL I will ever go back to Apple!
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They don't have the same specs.
i717 Note: Qualcomm S3 1.5ghz processor Adreno 220 GPU, 1gb RAM
i747 GSIII: Qualcomm S4 1.5ghz processor Adrena 225 GPU, 2gb RAM, Better cameras (Burst and HDR shot, 720p front facing), Gorilla Glass 2.
Although the features on the SIII are nice, they aren't enough for me to upgrade just yet.
Perhaps once 1080p screens become standard I will upgrade.
I would wait for note 2. I really like my note (i717) despite problem with custom radio for T-Mobile.
I agree I think the note is gonna be on top for a while... for a long while.
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I'll stick with my note fo sure .....don't care for the one x nor the s3 ..."Quad core"....... i don't need a quad core phone......my DUAL CORE note runs every single game I have perfect ...like mass effect ...nova... mc3 ...and everything's else ...
NUFF said DUECE's
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zer0nine said:
They don't have the same specs.
i717 Note: Qualcomm S3 1.5ghz processor Adreno 220 GPU, 1gb RAM
i747 GSIII: Qualcomm S4 1.5ghz processor Adrena 225 GPU, 2gb RAM, Better cameras (Burst and HDR shot, 720p front facing), Gorilla Glass 2.
Although the features on the SIII are nice, they aren't enough for me to upgrade just yet.
Perhaps once 1080p screens become standard I will upgrade.
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Yea I meant to say similar specs, but yea you're right...not enough to make me switch over to the S3...
Two words jelly bean
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
S III IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT!
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They don't have the same specs.
i717 Note: Qualcomm S3 1.5ghz processor Adreno 220 GPU, 1gb RAM
i747 GSIII: Qualcomm S4 1.5ghz processor Adrena 225 GPU, 2gb RAM, Better cameras (Burst and HDR shot, 720p front facing), Gorilla Glass 2.
Although the features on the SIII are nice, they aren't enough for me to upgrade just yet.
Perhaps once 1080p screens become standard I will upgrade.
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In actual tests on You Tube the Note's camera actually outperformed most others, including the S3, in picture quality.
Definitely gonna stick with the Note. I like to turn heads when using it in public. And nobody I know has it which makes it that much cooler. I can live without the slight upgrade in processing and ram.
When I had S2, I got my wife S2,
As now I have Note , I will get her get S3.
And I personally will wait for Note 2, bcoz am still enjoying Note.
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If I hadn't picked up the Note, er, if the Note had never been produced, I would for sure be all over the GSIII, but I couldn't be happier with my Note. The GSIII is a great looking phone imho, but the screen size of the Note plus the SPen make it a winner for me. My first Android was the Captivate, followed by the Infuse, and now my Note. Needless to say, Samsung has my loyalty and it will take a huge offering to displace them. My next phone will definitely be the Note 2. I just don't see another phone topping the Note 2 based purely on my current Note.
I like the hardware style of HTC phones, but they need to make a 5.3+" AMOLED screened phone with a stylus to displace Samsung and the Note for me. Not to mention, bootloader unlocking is just something I'd rather not have to ever deal with, and I can't pull myself to stay on stock software anymore. I know it's simple enough, but it's still a nuisance to deal with bootloader unlocking. I haven't played with the newer versions of Sense either, but my phones always end up losing manufacturer overlays anyways, and so far, Touchwiz has been the most appealing for me as well.
Same goes for Motorola, I like the direction they've gone with hardware on the RAZR line, but I need this big, beautiful screen and pen, not to mention a removable back. I also have hated Motorola overlays all along, as it is just ugly and laggy on every Motorola I've played with. They also have the stupid bootloader issues that keep me at bay.
I really wish Nokia wouldn't have been so dumb and had adopted both Android and WP7, because again, I like their hardware. Maybe they'll open up to Android in the future, but that won't happen before the Note 2 is here.
All that being said, I have no complaints with Samsung hardware, as every phone I have had from them has been rock solid and sexy despite people always bashing their use of plastic. I suppose the only qualm I have is how the back of the GSIII is glossy and the Note 2 will likely follow in it's design footsteps, though I don't mind the back of my white Note at all...I just prefer the textured back of my Infuse or metal on my Captivate. I really wish the general public would stop bashing Samsung for using plastic though, I don't see it as detrimental to build quality at all, and no matter what people say, metal still scratches, scuffs and dents, and plastic still holds up great in drops.
If Samsung wanted to annihilate the market and forever hold my loyalty, they can feel free to read this post and make my ideal Note 2 =] :
*5.5-6" Super AMOLED Plus HD 1080p display
-if they could find a way, make it matte glass while keeping HD clarity...which would be tough, but possible in the future probably.
*GNex styling with textured back, matte plastic instead of glossy.
-or go a different route with something exotic...carbon fiber, ceramic, magnesium, etc. I would pay a premium price for premium materials. =]
*Full Wacom pen functionality/increased pen software integration.
*Even though MHL is getting better, mini hdmi out would be nice like Motorola has on some phones
*Bigger battery obviously, or even next gen battery technology when it comes to consumer devices.
*Next gen Exynos with LTE capability and an increase in RAM, which RAM increase is inevitable.
*Multiple internal storage options like the GSIII, I would pounce all over 64 GB internal with up to 128 GB with expandable.
*Padfone and/or Atrix style docking options. Not necessary, but would be awesome. I would like to see something like that Ubuntu docking setup, as it would make phones of the future truly all in one devices. Imagine having only one device with only peripherals to expand functionality...yes, the future will be awesome.
All of that is really unnecessary with how awesome I think my current Note is, but if they include any of that you can bet I will be throwing my money at them.
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Two words jelly bean
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
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Four words, you might be wrong. With lots of proof pointing to the ASUS Nexus Tegra 3 Tablet getting Jelly Bean first there is speculation Jelly Bean will be for tablets only just like Honeycomb. It actually makes sense cause they had tablets running Gingerbread and to set tablets apart they gave us Honeycomb now theres ICS which is very similar to Honeycomb and I think Google is smart enough to know they need something else to keep people interested in Android tablets. Who knows but if you go back and read old post about Honeycomb before it was announced by Google everyone thought they would get they update on their devices but when it was anounced it was a let down cause it was only for tablets and I am willing to bet the next Android OS will also be a tablet only OS. I would also bet that every other new Android OS will be Tablet only from now on. But hey maybe I am wrong.
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Four words, you might be wrong. With lots of proof pointing to the ASUS Nexus Tegra 3 Tablet getting Jelly Bean first there is speculation Jelly Bean will be for tablets only just like Honeycomb. It actually makes sense cause they had tablets running Gingerbread and to set tablets apart they gave us Honeycomb now theres ICS which is very similar to Honeycomb and I think Google is smart enough to know they need something else to keep people interested in Android tablets. Who knows but if you go back and read old post about Honeycomb before it was announced by Google everyone thought they would get they update on their devices but when it was anounced it was a let down cause it was only for tablets and I am willing to bet the next Android OS will also be a tablet only OS. I would also bet that every other new Android OS will be Tablet only from now on. But hey maybe I am wrong.
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Three words, you are wrong. ICS was designed to make it simple for developing for both phones and tablets, hence why tablet mode is activated by a simple dpi change. ICS was made so Google doesn't have to deal with two different versions of software for tablets and phones, and both modes are built right in to one software version.
Plus, in the online Google play store, they just changed the galaxy nexus for sale to show hints at jelly bean, like the screen shown with a new stock wallpaper and different looking search bar, even right in the text description. It will be for both phones and tablets.
Edit: Here, needed to look this up: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ean-will-be-coming-to-the-galaxy-nexus-first/
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