I created 2 because one time I opened the main .masterkey file and it was blank.. useful..? or another completely useless post by me?
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I thought you got banned
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http://db.tt/GAoa0Yx
I created 2 because one time I opened the main .masterkey file and it was blank.. useful..? or another completely useless post by me?
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I bet 50euros on the "completly useless", but what is this .masterkey and why this should be useful for a developer?
@op:Yes I was looking for it many years .
(Jocking.)
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You're actually going to start this again?
For him to start this all over again, he must be suffering from short term memory loss.
I thought it was strange that 2 days after j.Anderson started posting the bootloader was bypassed and he got a ban. Anyone else notice that?
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I thought it was strange that 2 days after j.Anderson started posting the bootloader was bypassed and he got a ban. Anyone else notice that?
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No... It was in the process of being bypassed for a long time. His incoherent ramblings had nothing to do with it...
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I thought it was strange that 2 days after j.Anderson started posting the bootloader was bypassed and he got a ban. Anyone else notice that?
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Yeah, they stole all his elaborate work and presented it as theirs...
And to make it look convincing, they pretended to be breaking their heads over this for a whole year! Those smart-**s b***ards!!!!
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Yeah, they stole all his elaborate work and presented it as theirs...
And to make it look convincing, they pretended to be breaking their heads over this for a whole year! Those smart-*** b***ards!!!!
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And they force the mods to ban him... We are talking about a conspiracy!!!
ps: xronia polla iridaki...
guys, give him a break, just note that all of us have posted more than him.
agreed that this may not be the most useful thread, but he is not spamming anymore, we are.
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And they force the mods to ban him... We are talking about a conspiracy!!!
ps: xronia polla iridaki...
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....And I thought that conspirancy theories were a greek kind of obsession! LOL!
PS: Xristos Anesti!
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guys, give him a break, just note that all of us have posted more than him.
agreed that this may not be the most useful thread, but he is not spamming anymore, we are.
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This thread will be closed anyway, we could very well make some fun! Chill!
Hide the children, j.andserson is on the loose and if he catches you he'll spam you to death! You know what the worst part is? He has risen from a ban and nothing can stop him! Can our mods at xda stop their greatest challenge yet? Stay tuned to find out.
LOL at this whole thread
inb4 thread closed (yeah, sorry, I'm 12)
May be It's time for xda to get a comedian
Just thought .masterkey was important? Sorry?
@all
this is in my phone
.masterkey isn't .publickey?
I found it after flashing og firmware and **** you guys would flame on a retard if you had the chance
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I thought it was strange that 2 days after j.Anderson started posting the bootloader was bypassed and he got a ban. Anyone else notice that?
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Atleast someone noticed that I did infact help.. wish A developer would backmeup.. where else would they of gotten the mountpounts?
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Atleast someone noticed that I did infact help.. wish A developer would backmeup.. where else would they of gotten the mountpounts?
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Hmm, you are right. The certificates from the office 2k was really helpfull...
Of course there is not so importand that the bypass method is a kernel module that use the splboot as a bootloader. I m sure that you have no idea what am i talking about but its ok, the thread will be deleted...
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Just thought .masterkey was important? Sorry?
@all
this is in my phone
.masterkey isn't .publickey?
I found it after flashing og firmware and **** you guys would flame on a retard if you had the chance
Atleast someone noticed that I did infact help.. wish A developer would backmeup.. where else would they of gotten the mountpounts?
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wrong thread. be nice, no need to use such language. if you wanna talk trash, go to a different website.
Thread is closed for obvious reasons
Related
Since the bootloaders have finally been unlocked i was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of when cyanogenmod will be available or if it is even going to be available at all?
When it's ready (tm).
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::countdown begins for smart ass comment::
people are working on it, phone donated to cm devs, hold tight
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::countdown begins for smart ass comment::
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Delivered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
If u been a follower of CM in the past then you'll know that one of his rules is "Never ask for a timeframe" when is ready he'll post the download link
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this is the 3rd or 4th thread about the same topic in the last 2 days, seriously, is it so hart to look in the other threads?
What is the big deal if I asked again? Is the world going to end? I don't think so... and thanks to the people who actually commented with help.
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one more of these post and im going to rage..i think ppl are doing this on purpose
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What is the big deal if I asked again? Is the world going to end? I don't think so... and thanks to the people who actually commented with help.
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I'll refrain from flaming just this once, since the posting of the XDA noob video was more than fitting!
it is expected any moment soon your highness..
Flamers in the q&a are seriously annoying.. Its not like our forums are overflowing with content.
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Flamers in the q&a are seriously annoying.. Its not like our forums are overflowing with content.
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No the same question 57 times is annoying and we rather have nothing than multiple re-post
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tjjensen23 said:
Delivered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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that is the best forum video i have ever seen.
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What is the big deal if I asked again? Is the world going to end? I don't think so... and thanks to the people who actually commented with help.
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it just proves that people don't understand the concept of the SEARCH BUTTON.
guitarcrazy188 said:
What is the big deal if I asked again? Is the world going to end? I don't think so... and thanks to the people who actually commented with help.
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Ever heard of the Google search button? or just typing in your question into search and get your answer immediately instead of posting and waiting to get flamed
ChongoDroid said:
Flamers in the q&a are seriously annoying.. Its not like our forums are overflowing with content.
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What little content there is difficult to find under a pile of duplicate threads asking when CM7 is going to be released or why their HKTW 2.3.4 Atrix is telling them they have an update. Multiple threads every day asking the same question just wastes the time of anyone trying to find actual content on here.
I swear, they should require moderator approval for the creation of new threads around these parts.
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I swear, they should require moderator approval for the creation of new threads around these parts.
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extreme but good idea lol
What is the number omlne rule of cm? DONT ASK FOR ETA's
Need help with cm7? Pm me I can try to help
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Flamers in the q&a are seriously annoying.. Its not like our forums are overflowing with content.
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people wouldn't flame spammers/trolls if they knew how to stab someone in the face on the internet... unfortunately that project is not being developed
guitarcrazy188 said:
Since the bootloaders have finally been unlocked i was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of when cyanogenmod will be available or if it is even going to be available at all?
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Along the same lines as Duke Nukem Forever, "when it's done it's done"
wait a minute...
KefkaticFanatic said:
Along the same lines as Duke Nukem Forever
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we should hope not! ha. Well, at least if it does take a decade to come out it better not be that disappointing.
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LMAO. Funniest sh** I seen all day. U know warez isnt allowed here right. Your bout to get the ban hammer friend
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Are you taking the piss?
I've pmd the forums mods.
someone please ban him............
Not sure if your doing the right thing posting that. Its not exactly rocket science.
I still think if whoever cant figure that out for themselves, they probably shouldnt do it.
removed in kind.
sorry didnt know
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sorry didnt know
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A MUST READ FOR YOU>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=617
Lol at this thread.. This isn't modaco, you can't steal things without repercussion around here
Noob mistake...try publishing your theme for wolfs 3.7....lol
We all know how to do this anyway...lol
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....LOL....
Accepted that I am really a fool. I installed a new ICS ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S2 and now when I make or receive calls, I get no voice!!!!.
I must have bricked this phone...
Can some good soul help this noob to fix it back!!!. If you need me to reinstall Stock ROM, then I do not have that....
I would greatly appreciate a step by step and links to fix this.
Thank You
phoneman108 said:
Accepted that I am really a fool. I installed a new ICS ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S2 and now when I make or receive calls, I get no voice!!!!.
I must have bricked this phone...
Can some good soul help this noob to fix it back!!!. If you need me to reinstall Stock ROM, then I do not have that....
I would greatly appreciate a step by step and links to fix this.
Thank You
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1st question. why wouldnt you follow the rules and make a nandroid backup? because if you did, you wouldnt be having this issue.
2nd question. why wouldnt you give the necessary information as to what you flashed and from where?
its almost impossible to help you out when you give no information. you also havent bricked your phone if you can turn it on still.
This is what happens when you put the cart before the horse.
More info on what you did so we can:
figure out your problem for you
showed you where you went wrong
make fun of you
try and help you fix it
here man this is all q and a you need
hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble. You are having enough trouble and you come in here for help then you get two replys above me. Thats just sad. You can imagine just if you was starving and you asked them to give you $.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my in call sound. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
basically all you have to do is download and flash it with cwm.
most likely u didnt flash a I777 modem
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hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble. You are having enough trouble and you come in here for help then you get two replys above me. Thats just sad. You can imagine just if you was starving and you asked them to give you $.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my in call sound. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
basically all you have to do is download and flash it with cwm.
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No, that won't work.
The rules of XDA are clear - Search before posting, never post before reading the FAQ.
Not flashing anything until you have done research is just plain common sense.
How to flash I9100 firmwares, and WHICH ones can be flashed, is covered in the FAQ topic. The original poster CLEARLY did not read the FAQ.
Assuming that you're still on the ICS ROM......it depends on what exactly you flashed but this could be the solution. Flash the correct modified kernel based on what base ICS ROM you flashed(if you don't know then look at settings->about phone). You will then need to flash a correct i777 modem as well(depends if it is Samsung or AOSP based). Without knowing more about what you flashed I can't really help you further.
Possible kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540872
Modems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361393
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hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble reading. You are having enough trouble reading and you come in here for help then you get two awesome replys above me. Thats just sad that you can not read. You can imagine just if you was starving and there are signs warning you not to eat poison but yet you do not read the sign and still eat it.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my problems of not reading. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511838
basically all you have to do is READ.
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Entropy512 said:
No, that won't work.
The rules of XDA are clear - Search before posting, never post before reading the FAQ.
Not flashing anything until you have done research is just plain common sense.
How to flash I9100 firmwares, and WHICH ones can be flashed, is covered in the FAQ topic. The original poster CLEARLY did not read the FAQ.
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He is admiting he made mistake ok. I do aprreciate you and all you done for us entropy but he is learning hard way. Hopefully he will learn from mistake. If someone is asking for help in my eyes we should help him not like most of us on here use that to argue or tell then few good words. Just help its not hard.
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He is admiting he made mistake ok. I do aprreciate you and all you done for us entropy but he is learning hard way. Hopefully he will learn from mistake. If someone is asking for help in my eyes we should help him not like most of us on here use that to argue or tell then few good words. Just help its not hard.
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Its not hard to read either, but apparently its easier to spoonfeed than to read THE STICKY THREAD THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION AND LINKS THAT HE NEEDED.
I dont know why its so hard for some people...
Red5 said:
Its not hard to read either, but apparently its easier to spoonfeed than to read THE STICKY THREAD THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION AND LINKS THAT HE NEEDED.
I dont know why its so hard for some people...
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Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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Dont know what you're talking about, I cant ban people. If a person gets enough infractions then the higher ups ban people because they cant follow the rules. All infractions are looked at then double looked at, so if your friend got banned, then he deserved it.
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Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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I think you have the wrong attitude here. Yes, it's good to help people that KNOW how to help themselves. But when they blatantly ignore all the help already available they become more of a nuisance than any real development of this forum. I'm sorry If that seems a bit harsh. But this place was not started to spoon feed people that don't know what they are doing. It's been stated time and time again. This is NOT a help desk forum. Respect the rules, respect the mods and above all READ THE STICKIES!!!
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mfreywald said:
I think you have the wrong attitude here. Yes, it's good to help people that KNOW how to help themselves. But when they blatantly ignore all the help already available they become more of a nuisance than any real development of this forum. I'm sorry If that seems a bit harsh. But this place was not started to spoon feed people that don't know what they are doing. It's been stated time and time again. This is NOT a help desk forum. Respect the rules, respect the mods and above all READ THE STICKIES!!!
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A-fricken-men.
Terminator12 said:
Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning.
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Your "friend" = You
wonner said:
Your "friend" = You
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Yep, more than likely the case.
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Some of this junk in here should not have cells or comps they looking hard how to be XDA bi..h.
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Terminator12 said:
Some of this junk in here should not have cells or comps they looking hard how to be XDA bi..h.
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Did that make any sense to anyone?
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mfreywald said:
Did that make any sense to anyone?
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Yea... he censored the last word.
No, I got that part, I kind of meant the whole thing. Is he calling US junk? And are WE trying to be XDA b'tches? Red please close this thread its no longer productive nor necessary.
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Hey...so I'm a new member to this forum, but have been browsing it for at least a few months now; since having gotten my GSII (I777) in October. I'm not much into programming but am willing to give my honest (and in my opinion tasteful opinion) if anyone needs a tester for certain things; themes, what have you. I'm new, but willing to help out any developers or anything who need some help in this category. Cus I've got some time to devote, I figured I'd offer. Take care everyone!
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Hey...so I'm a new member to this forum, but have been browsing it for at least a few months now; since having gotten my GSII (I777) in October. I'm not much into programming but am willing to give my honest (and in my opinion tasteful opinion) if anyone needs a tester for certain things; themes, what have you. I'm new, but willing to help out any developers or anything who need some help in this category. Cus I've got some time to devote, I figured I'd offer. Take care everyone!
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You really felt the need to make a thread about this?
Nick281051 said:
You really felt the need to make a thread about this?
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And double-posted it. Not very helpful or respectful.
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And double-posted it. Not very helpful or respectful.
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He was so willling that he wanted to let us know twice
Wow you guys felt the need to bust his chops..
What a bunch of asshats.
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Yeah, that's how this forum rolls, a bunch of mean people...
So it would seem.. He's just trying to be helpful..
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
Wow you guys felt the need to bust his chops..
What a bunch of asshats.
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Because it is totally unnecessary. What if everyone started threads like these? We would have a million to wade through. That's why we're being "asshats." I wish people wouldn't go right to name calling when neither Miami nor I did anything wrong.
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So it would seem.. He's just trying to be helpful..
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How is it helpful to start not one, but two basically useless threads just to say, "Here I am!" If you want to help and can, then just do it instead of trying to make yourself look like the forum's savior. There is a forum for introductions because they don't belong anywhere else.
Man you guys have serious issues..
The reason I went right to name calling is that is exactly how your behaving. You don't want his help then shut the **** up and let it pass.
You wanna be moderators need to get a hobby...
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How else is someone going to make it known that he wants to help besides making a thread? Go through messaging all the developers and message random people he may think could start developing? Oh and by the way... If anyone wants a mirror to some file i'd be happy to upload to my dropbox and give a link. Just to help out..
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Man you guys have serious issues..
The reason I went right to name calling is that is exactly how your behaving. You don't want his help then shut the **** up and let it pass.
You wanna be moderators need to get a hobby...
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No actually we aren't wanna be moderators, they have enough work. We just try to lessen their load. Posts likr this simply should not be made. Yeah the cursing really gets your point across. Nice job there dude.
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obtained said:
How else is someone going to make it known that he wants to help besides making a thread? Go through messaging all the developers and message random people he may think could start developing? Oh and by the way... If anyone wants a mirror to some file i'd be happy to upload to my dropbox and give a link. Just to help out..
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They don't. If the developers offer it that's all well and great and if you ask in their thread has usually okay too but making a thread is simply not necessary.
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They don't. If the developers offer it that's all well and great and if you ask in their thread has usually okay too but making a thread is simply not necessary.
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I understand it's not entirely necessary. but why not? I just read all the rules and there's absolutely nothing that says anything against this thread. The rules do mention things against what has been said about the guy starting this thread. And rule #10 seems to make starting this thread perfectly ok, right?
You want to help? Then find a thread where you have expertise or desire and post in it. Starting one of these threads is unnecessary and starting two just shows how clueless you are. I won't even comment on the racial undertones of his member name.
Alright folks...
Yes, he shouldn't have posted this in a new thread, and certainly not twice. However, XDA is a place for CIVIL discourse.
We can politely point out his error, then report the thread for a Mod and move on. All the junk that follows is nearly as bad as the OP.
Simply ignoring bad posts/threads is a lot easier than flaming the OP then flaming each other.
Now let's all move on...
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...wtf...
Ugh. I understand the OP was just trying to be helpful and thats commendable, but its not necessary to make a thread about it. At the very lest, a post can be made in the rom/kernel threads donating his time to help.
Trolls be trollin...
Was following the above topic thread now my comment along with the whole thread has disappeared. Can someone tell what the hell happened in the END????
Fake until proven. Closed and hidden
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yeah me to I was following. how was it proven to be fake?
i mean like the phone was fake? or the pictures were fake? or he edited his phone to make it like that?
Non compliance from OP so until he has concrete evidence.
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I thought he said he was sleeping and would do it this morning. The mod said said he was waiting for evidence or he would close and delete it. I hope its just hidden. I really hope it's authentic then he can trade it for the exynos sources, but he did say something about them asking for his address. If he's not careful they may trace him and mess him up like that iPhone 4 guy.
But this is if, and i repeat if he was being honest.
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I so wanted to know the outcome about the phone ! Its like watching a very interesting movie and missing the end! I hope we find out the truth
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graffixnyc closed and hid the thread on notice that the OP could contact him at any time to proof his statements, otherwise the thread keeps closed.
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I wanted to know too.. but OP seems like he kept on stalling xD he could've just given ALL the details right away, every bit of his S3.. well.. i had fun reading the entire thread anyway. Lucky guy with his SUPERPHOOOONE cant wait to hear the results! Haha
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I really hope it's authentic then he can trade it for the exynos sources
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Hi,
You really believe that? Seriously?
I followed the topic, it was for kidding from the one who wrote it (maybe slaphead20 if I remember right).
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Hi,
You really believe that? Seriously?
I followed the topic, it was for kidding from the one who wrote it (maybe slaphead20 if I remember right).
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Does believing him change your life? If it is true it's something worth discussing. If it's a lie then oh well.
Yeah yeah they won't give the sources but at least he should demand a bigger reward.
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Does believing him change your life? If it is true it's something worth discussing. If it's a lie then oh well.
Yeah yeah they won't give the sources but at least he should demand a bigger reward.
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I'm not talking about the veracity of the thread but I was talking about the fact to trade his thing (even if it's true) against the Exynos sources...
Do you realize what you say
IRONIC...
viking37 said:
I'm not talking about the veracity of the thread but I was talking about the fact to trade his thing (even if it's true) against the Exynos sources...
Do you realize what you say
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Yeah it was a long shot, which would never happen. Just want the final outcome now, If he was lying he would be the biggest d-bag on here.
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It feels wrong to me that threads are hidden, of all the senseless threads and repeated topics they removed this one?
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It feels wrong to me that threads are hidden, of all the senseless threads and repeated topics they removed this one?
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I agree. There are tons of same repetitive threads which are closed but still kept open to public so how come it's hidden now? At least we could have kept a look out for any further development.
NO news about this?
it's pretty simple......if the thread doesn't reappear then it was, more than likely a hoax......however.......just for you Mulder and Scully types consider this........What if people higher up in xda wanted to keep this to themselves, if it was genuine, to add a bit of leverage to a "certain" cause?................
There, that should keep the gossip hungry amongst you busy for a bit