Just got a TB yesterday and am perplexed on why there is only 29.71 gb of available on a 32 gb card? I guess a few GB...no big deal but the Internal space available is only 2.47 out of 8. What gives? I maybe have 120 phone numbers.
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http://blog.premiumusb.com/2010/11/usb-flash-drive-actual-storage-space-capacity/
around 29.7 or 29.8GB is right for your SD card. and the internal storage for apps and everything is 2.5GB, some more is used for the system and firmware. I'm not sure if people found out what takes up the rest of the space though.
A 32 GB flash card holds 32,000,000,000 bytes. Your phone is measuring gibibytes (GiB), but incorrectly labeling them as gigabytes (GB).
32 GB = 29.802322387695312 GiB. The difference between that and the available capacity shown is due to formatting overhead, and whatever's already stored on the card.
One gigabyte is 10^9 bytes (SI), whereas one gibibyte is 2^30 bytes (binary). And the ***** of it is that the larger the number of GB to GiB, the more you seem to be "missing."
Thats cool. Thx. Big learning curve coming from a WOS 6.5 to this android. but I will love it.
ddemara said:
Thats cool. Thx. Big learning curve coming from a WOS 6.5 to this android. but I will love it.
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It's the same for everything. Unless you mean Android as a whole. Anyway, welcome to Android. You'll love it.
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So i recently rooted and ive pretty much just been putting roms on my sdcard and checking each one out... is my sd card going to be able to handle a lot of roms on it? or should i just keep one on at a time so its not as full.... also are there things on the sd card that i can just delete and dont really need?
I doubt that you'll have to worry about filling up your SD card with roms. Most roms range from 50mb to 100mb so you can fit at least 10 in 1 GB. Your card holds a little less than 8 GB due to other various things that you download that install data and folders to the SD card. Unless you go crazy with holding a lot of music or videos on you card, then you should be fine. I'd be more concerned with the internal phone storage, as that being filled up would possibly slow down the phone a bit. As far as what folders you need or not, just open them up and double check what is inside. It's usually easy to tell if the folder contains something that might be useful. If nothing else, the phone will automatically install the folder again if it's important to a function it thinks is needed. Hope this helps...
i have most Eris ROMs posted in these forums (22 different flavors ). including multiple versions of some... all stored on my sdcard
my entire ROM folder is 3.34GB. i do, however, have a 16gb SDcard...
If I bought a faster SD card for my phone would it see a performance increase? I hear there are multiple classes of SD card so if I buy a higher class (better) would I be able to see the difference?
Hungry Man said:
If I bought a faster SD card for my phone would it see a performance increase? I hear there are multiple classes of SD card so if I buy a higher class (better) would I be able to see the difference?
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Upgrading to a Class 6 sdcard would give a noticeable improvement if you use a2sd. Other than that it would be minimal for file transfers...
here are the classes:
* Class 2: 16 Mbit/s (2 MB/s)
* Class 4: 32 Mbit/s (4 MB/s)
* Class 6: 48 Mbit/s (6 MB/s)
* Class 10: 80 Mbit/s (10 MB/s)
the cards aren't cheap... and for the money, i don't think the return is that great. i found a CHEAP deal on a class 4 card, but don't do anything but apps2sd. no "real" performance increase. a class 6 card is of course faster, but i honestly doubt you'll notice any "major" performance increase, regardless of configuration (i.e., swap on sd, apps on sd, etc). there are varying opinions on this topic, but that's my .02. i'd say the money would be better spent elsewhere... maybe even donating to a dev lol
however, moving files to/from sd to pc, etc, will be faster... may cut down on flashing ROMs by a few seconds
I see. Thanks for the info. Do you know what the Eris has? I think a Class 10 can be around 60 dollars lol I'd much rather donate to a dev.
Hungry Man said:
I see. Thanks for the info. Do you know what the Eris has? I think a Class 10 can be around 60 dollars lol I'd much rather donate to a dev.
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8GB Class 2
Oh I see. So they're pretty low.
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
GameSlim said:
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Partitions for user apps and data (2GB), for the system, a partition that the games hub uses, other partitions for cache, etc.
Its all there, just used by other parts of the phone. There are more threads that go into more detail if you search.
And before you ask, no you cant reparation to reclaim space.
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In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Well, it's all right there in your phone.
First you start with the fact that they use decimal, not octal numeral system for GB. That means that 16.000.000 bytes is actually around 14.8 GB, the same thing happens when you buy hard disk which, lets say, has capacity of 250 GB, and actually you have 232 GB of hard drive space.
Next, 2GB is reserved for installing application, about 1 GB for system, caches and similar things. In the end you are left with about 11GB free space in internal memory.
Hahaha! okay, thanks for the explanation. I kinda thought the same, much like other memory drives, some part are allocated for system usage. But just curious about it.
Now i'm all okay with your answers Thanks!
Actual Usable Storage
GameSlim said:
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Hi,
I put together a list of the actual usable internal storage of different phones so that we can compare and see which one has how much. This can be found on:
http://icethreads.com/actual-usable-storage-of-mobile-phones/
Let me know if you found it useful!
Regards,
- Harris
the 5gb is for system and format stuff (i think)
in win7 i can choose between 32k and the new 64k when formatting the card. which should I do which is best for the phone,or should I just format it in recovery?
dyetheskin said:
in win7 i can choose between 32k and the new 64k when formatting the card. which should I do which is best for the phone,or should I just format it in recovery?
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What file format? FAT32?
Generally I just leave it at the stock settings, which I believe is 4K allocation unit size. Android runs off a ton of smaller files, I think the larger allocation unit sizing is just going to be inefficient on space. Since this is flash based storage there probably is going to be minimal or no performance differences, I would think.
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nevermind, I need to read things first. For the SDCARD, which is mostly general storage, small file sizes arent likely a reason to opt for 4k over 32k or 64k, but I still don't know if you'll get any performance gain. Honestly, try both and benchmark them. Let us know if one is for some reason significantly better than the others..
I just benchmarked 14 tests between both 32K and 64K allocation unit sizes and 7 different caches between 128 and 4096. The sweet spot for me was 64K when formatting the card and setting sd-booster to 4096. my card is a 32gb lexar sdhc class 10. I get roughly 9.1 for write and 22.6 for read.
What did you use to format? When I put my 64gb sdxc card I got a message saying the card is damaged would you like to format it and I said why yes, I would like to format it and it just did it without any options. All I know is that it formatted as FAT32. Can I check in the phone what allocation unit size it is at?
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What did you use to format? When I put my 64gb sdxc card I got a message saying the card is damaged would you like to format it and I said why yes, I would like to format it and it just did it without any options. All I know is that it formatted as FAT32. Can I check in the phone what allocation unit size it is at?
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no you cant check on the device. the options are in windows7 in the format screen
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no you cant check on the device. the options are in windows7 in the format screen
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Okay, thanks. I formatted in the phone since I figured it would format it properly. I saw that it was FAT32 when I was putting some music on it but never check anything further than that.
Antutu Benchmark results (my card is class 6):
Write - (5.0 MB/s) 50
Read - (5.7 MB/s) 57
Internal card results:
Write - (7.0 MB/s) 70
Read - (6.4 MB/s) 64
I have no idea if that's good or bad. My first smartphone so I've never had to pay that much attention to this stuff.
Were your speeds MB/s also? If so, maybe I'll try reformatting, although mine is class 6 so I don't know how much to allow for that.
I also saw something about Android OS supposedly not supporting more than 32gb but mine is 64gb. Would that be a factor?
Allocation size should be based on "average file size"
If apps, keep it smaller, or the normal 4k. Music/movies, you can up it a few notches.
Benchmarking this with benchmark programs are useless as they have preset small files they use to bench the speeds. Being flash memory, allocation size will also most likely put forth no noticeable speed difference on already speed limited SD cards. if seektime mattered, allocation would also. in our cases allocation only has the effect of potentially wasting space.
just use the smallest allocation size for the most use of the space on your card. you select higher allocation unit sizes, all the teeny files android and apps use will take up the amount of space equal to the allocation size, regardless of its true size (4k allocation means ALL files take a minimum of 4K, or in increments of 4K. therefore files <4k take 4k, 4+ to 8 take 8k, 8+ to 12 take 12k.)
Yes 64gb cards are usually fine on aneroid. What are keeping on there, pron???
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nrfitchett4 said:
Yes 64gb cards are usually fine on aneroid. What are keeping on there, pron???
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I never keep pron on my aneroid. I wouldn't know how to get it on/in (?) there!
lol mmm Pron
S2 have a 16 gig internal memory, so why does mine say 3 gig used and 8 available? Where is the other 5 gig? I'm running a custom ROM (not had chance to update my sig yet) would that make a difference? I can't seen to find out what this 5 gig is........
Thanks
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i dont have the exact number to the nearest MB but it works something likes this...
16GB on internal memory equates to 14.4 (approx) GB available memory...
you can see something similar in any windows/linux PC...when you try to see the disk space...available is alway less than total...dont worry/bother right now why its like that...
ok now from 14.4 GB available... you take out 2.1 GB (approx) for internal memory (also called partition for storing Apps)...
this leaves you with 12 GB (approx) free...called the SD card memory (separate from any external SD card you might put in)
its like that for each and every SGS2 16GB model user.... nothing to worry about..
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i dont have the exact number to the nearest MB but it works something likes this...
16GB on internal memory equates to 14.4 (approx) GB available memory...
you can see something similar in any windows/linux PC...when you try to see the disk space...available is alway less than total...dont worry/bother right now why its like that...
ok now from 14.4 GB available... you take out 2.1 GB (approx) for internal memory (also called partition for storing Apps)...
this leaves you with 12 GB (approx) free...called the SD card memory (separate from any external SD card you might put in)
its like that for each and every SGS2 16GB model user.... nothing to worry about..
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ah right, so nothing to worry about... thanks for clearing that up mate.
Hey there.
I'm a little confused regarding the internal storage of my VZW Note II. It has 16gb, which I know is less when formatted... there's around 10gb available for apps and files. Isn't that the partition sizing for Samsung's massively bloaty ROM? I'm running AOSP; is there any way to reclaim some of that space? Or I've seen some stuff about dual-booting, but there are way too many disparate GNoteII forums on XDA and I can't find any specific font of information. Is that a way to more efficiently use space? I'm just consistently crunched for space since nothing can use the external SD really, and 10gb goes away quickly nowadays.
Thank you kindly.
I would like to know the same thing. Just flashed and rom and set everything and now I only have about 700MB free space. I don't even run lots of apps. It's the miscellaneous that takes up majority of the space.
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tee00max said:
I would like to know the same thing. Just flashed and rom and set everything and now I only have about 700MB free space. I don't even run lots of apps. It's the miscellaneous that takes up majority of the space.
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Thats 700mb freespace for the system partition which is plenty...apps reside on the internal sd which you should have 10-12gb free.
droidstyle said:
Thats 700mb freespace for the system partition which is plenty...apps reside on the internal sd which you should have 10-12gb free.
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Exactly. That's 700mb to /system, then the rest goes to app storage and the emulated internal SD card. My phone reports that at 10.33gb total; 10.33gb + 700mb = 11.03gb total known storage across all known partitions. Doesn't that seem a little low?
I know my phone has 2gb of ram but what I am speaking of is the 16gb internal SD storage.
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I know my phone has 2gb of ram but what I am speaking of is the 16gb internal SD storage.
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That's what we're speaking of as well. Your phone has 16gb of internal storage which is split across system files and app storage. Any space left over is your "internal SD card". It's how Android works post-Ice Cream Sandwich.
no its not low thats normal...
Well, I know our "16gb" cards are only 14.9gb, marketing considers 1gb = 1,000mb's, but it's really 1024 mb's. So really if you do the math, 16gb by marketing definition equals 14.9gb in reality (16*1,000^3/1,024^3). That explains 1gb at least.
I'd imagine the rest is the baseband and radio software, all that? Is the touchwiz framework always left on the phone even after a full internal format?
How much available space does a "16gb" Nexus 4 have on first boot?
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no its not low thats normal...
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Ah. I did not realize that the RAM was part of that 16gb as well, I thought it was dedicated. That explains it. Thanks
ieAnd said:
Ah. I did not realize that the RAM was part of that 16gb as well, I thought it was dedicated. That explains it. Thanks
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Where'd you see that?
Well according to the email notification I got from XDA, droidstyle's response was:
"no its not low thats normal... The rom is 2gb + 2gb of ram + all of the apps leaves arouns 11gb free."
then when I went to reply that second part wasn't there anymore? But I assume droidstyle is right? 14.9 - 2.0 - 2.0 = 10.9, so... closer?
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Well according to the email notification I got from XDA, droidstyle's response was:
"no its not low thats normal... The rom is 2gb + 2gb of ram + all of the apps leaves arouns 11gb free."
then when I went to reply that second part wasn't there anymore? But I assume droidstyle is right? 14.9 - 2.0 - 2.0 = 10.9, so... closer?
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yea i edited that because I was not sure that was 100% correct...which I do not think it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21573600&postcount=3
It seems weird, but I think you're right. It's not only the most logical and mathematically accurate solution, but thinking back on it I believe that's how my poor old Galaxy Nexus functioned as well, it was just far less noticeable since the Gnex had 32gb of memory and only took 1gb of RAM, vs. 16 - 2.
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It seems weird, but I think you're right. It's not only the most logical and mathematically accurate solution, but thinking back on it I believe that's how my poor old Galaxy Nexus functioned as well, it was just far less noticeable since the Gnex had 32gb of memory and only took 1gb of RAM, vs. 16 - 2.
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just add a sd card
I have 16+64.
droidstyle said:
just add a sd card
I have 16+64.
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This definitely solves the problem
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I have a 32 ultra SD, so I'm pretty set. Currently I have 4.9 GB available on the internal drive. I like to keep a clean drive. If you download music, most if not all will go to the internal. I've looked for mp3 apps that direct the DL's to the ext.SD, but have only found one, and that one didn't work. I believe cache goes on the internal too. Every time you download a ROM like meanbean, liquid smooth, they place a folder on the internal drive. They're empty, but they take up space.
I think the ram is part of the internal.
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Oh I have a 32gb Class-10 µSD card in my phone right now. The problem I'm facing is that any sort of app storage can't be moved to external SD... I have one or two pretty massive games and a lot of apps that love to cache reserves of data, and it adds up. I only have about 1.2 gb free storage after clearing all caches, without really any other files to speak of besides a few pictures. Oh well, I can deal. I was just spoiled with storage on the GNex.