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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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carycooke said:
As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
mohkg said:
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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bthomp21 said:
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
I have a bootable cm7 port, and I need a experienced porter/kernel dev to take it over or help me get working. Right now there is no usb, sound or network. So please pm me for the download link. We need to get cm7 up and running.
its already in the works.
Just leave it alone and let the devs get it working.
So do you have touch input working? As far as I know none of the others have that working.
You might want to post it up with the download link in the dev section. You might also want to pm some of the dev's making senseless roms they have been taking out sense stuff and adding aosp stuff lately, so they might know what needs to be in there to make it work.
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So do you have touch input working? As far as I know none of the others have that working.
You might want to post it up with the download link in the dev section. You might also want to pm some of the dev's making senseless roms they have been taking out sense stuff and adding aosp stuff lately, so they might know what needs to be in there to make it work.
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No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
i love all the thread police here. it makes my day.
Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Is this tone really necessary?
The guy is trying to help dude... wtf is wrong with you?
He is simply stating not to post again bc many have attempted to get help here and toast is already working on it, one of thee most respected developers on xda, don't post on on the dev section bc we all know he is working on it and he'll get it done all we need is patience
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Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Dude what do you think the development section is for? Maybe developing a rom possibly? Look at the op's join date 2007, I highly doubt he is noob, which would make me assume this is a real trying to recruit people to work on this.
Also it is better to have more people working on something than just one. If only one person had worked on our root we might still only have temp root now. revolutionary didn't just stop because they heard somebody else was working on root.
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Dude what do you think the development section is for? Maybe developing a rom possibly? Look at the op's join date 2007, I highly doubt he is noob, which would make me assume this is a real trying to recruit people to work on this.
Also it is better to have more people working on something than just one. If only one person had worked on our root we might still only have temp root now. revolutionary didn't just stop because they heard somebody else was working on root.
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The OP is actually smart and not listened to whoever it was that suggested it.
I agree with JOEY_UFC. it does not belong in development.
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Why are you knocking him for trying it on his own? Every Dev has to start somewhere. If he wants to attempt to learn, people should be encouraging him not telling him to leave it alone for the "real" devs. When I ported clockwork recovery to the dell streak 7 I knew nothing about Linux or android development , but the community helped me learn the ropes and encouraged me to get it done, Not discouraged me telling me to leave it alone and wait for a more experienced Dev to get it working.
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dfskevinohyeah said:
He is simply stating not to post again bc many have attempted to get help here and toast is already working on it, one of thee most respected developers on xda, don't post on on the dev section bc we all know he is working on it and he'll get it done all we need is patience
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Um, so what if somewhat is already working on it? For all we know this guy may be more talented than Toastcfh. Perhaps he can find the solution to something that Toast cannot figure out... Bottom line, Android development is a collaboration and we shouldn't scold people for trying to help, develop, and contribute.
krunkymonkey said:
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
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Right on! Just ignore these no talent clowns.
Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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SMH. No wonder we have the worst forum on xda.
i think the OP should keep up the good work. since when was it a rule that a specific dev can work on CM7 and no one else. XDA is supposed to be about helping others when help is needed, not scolding people and trying to break their spirits. all the OP is doing is asking for a little help, and like someone previously stated, he may have found/fixed something that the other devs working on CM7 missed
This forum should just get rid of post counts. People feel the need to talk when they don't have to, leading to a few spamming power users that are dicks/trolls that run the show.
Why do dudes in this forum act the way they do. Makes people not want to ask for help. Dude keep doing what your doing man. Knowledge and Fadakar I'm with you. Knowledge your so right man never seen this going on in the hero forum.
Rooted 3D shooter in full affect
Yeahuhhh!
krunkymonkey said:
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
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right on bro!!keep going at it!!the more people working on this the better!!
knowledge561 said:
SMH. No wonder we have the worst forum on xda.
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+1
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Im looking to start deving for android but i'm not the creative type so I have no ideas what kind of stuff to make. so if anyone has a suggestion, im willing to try just about anything.
Also, I have no artistic design ability so I may try to recruit some help from either here or one of my com des buddies.
d3athsd00r said:
Im looking to start deving for android but i'm not the creative type so I have no ideas what kind of stuff to make. so if anyone has a suggestion, im willing to try just about anything.
Also, I have no artistic design ability so I may try to recruit some help from either here or one of my com des buddies.
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If your experienced in programming, developing, Linux, etc. might try contacting the Atrix Dev Team (currently working on porting CM7) and see if they could use your services.
Swiftks said:
If your experienced in programming, developing, Linux, etc. might try contacting the Atrix Dev Team (currently working on porting CM7) and see if they could use your services.
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Well I've never done any android development so I don't think I would be of much/any help to them. But how do I go about contacting them?
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d3athsd00r said:
Well I've never done any android development so I don't think I would be of much/any help to them. But how do I go about contacting them?
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https://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/
Op if you are looking for someone to work with id be glad to lend any help I can. Check your PM‘s
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How about put the droid 3. Blur edition and lockscreens??
PD: if you need a tester count with me
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
cyanogen said:
I really dislike the "chef" moniker when it comes to Android, since we are more of an open-source community. I think it implies a "file pusher" mentality. But then again, I am biased against proprietary versions of Android like Sense, so feel free to disregard all of this.
Here's my advice for those looking to make their own Android ROMs.. Stop. Write an app or two first, learn how the system works from a developer standpoint. Learn some Java. Read the developer documentation. Learn how to use Git. Then learn how to build AOSP from source. Read the porting guides, and learn how the build system works (the links below have almost everything you could possibly want to know). Now try to put your new found skills to work on enhancing the platform by writing code or making theme overlays. And share! And put that **** on your resume. There is a *ton* of information out there but any kind of "step-by-step rom cooking guide" is going to be a complete fail- it's too broad of a subject.
Android Developer Guides: http://d.android.com
Working with AOSP source: http://source.android.com
Platform Developer Guide: http://pdk.android.com
Android Gitweb: http://android.git.kernel.org
Git Ready (Git tips and tricks): http://www.gitready.com/
Building CyanogenMod: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Building_from_source
How Dexopt works and what are those odex files: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...bcd225e47b2cc7abb2a366112d3aeb45936;hb=master
The PDK site is absolutely vital if you are going to work on custom ROMs. Read every single page. Twice. Some of the info isn't up to date, but you'll get a really good idea about what goes into actually configuring Android to work on a real device.
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I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
If that thread will be anywere, than I will take responsibilty to make it.
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reserveddd
There will be posted many ROMs in here if so, reserved!
I will help you too
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I will help you too
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Thanks
You mind posting your next ROMs in here?
Not to be rude ofcourse...
Greets!
mDroidd said:
Thanks
You mind posting your next ROMs in here?
Not to be rude ofcourse...
Greets!
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Yeah if u delete 1-2 of ur reserved posts so my roms come in 2nd or 3rd post
I understand this advice
thanks for linking this.. those are really useful links
mDroidd said:
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
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Seems to me the pdk site is down???
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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RockR172 said:
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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I too. Themed ROMs are not worth
+1 from my side too
mDroidd said:
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
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I totally agree with this. O1 P500 Community could use a little cleaning up.
By the way, I have been wanting to learn actually developing Android but just can't find the resource to hook me up. Those links are just what I needed.
My opinion is that we can ask a kid politely till we die of old age,
and i'm not far by comparing what is happening here whit kids behavior.
Long story short moderators must do something, us users can relay do nothing,
if a user is like that, our posts will defensively not impress him and in most cases he will never read them..
RockR172 said:
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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DJoptimus-One said:
I too. Themed ROMs are not worth
+1 from my side too
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But you download and flash such roms?
mcapoy said:
I totally agree with this. O1 P500 Community could use a little cleaning up.
By the way, I have been wanting to learn actually developing Android but just can't find the resource to hook me up. Those links are just what I needed.
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Good for you that you find it now, if you tried searching the same earlier you would have learn how to develop in Android coz that link is almost 2 years old. Basically you wasted 2 years waiting for such links to come.
This thread is of no purpose, the theme roms and other roms will go in this section ONLY as its right now. No need to create threads like this one, to avoid warning.
Thread closed!
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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dnle71 said:
I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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DJoptimus-One said:
They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Yes, but there ain't any one single N00B fish in the O1 pond. There are many
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Completely aggree.
The main problem (just my point of view) is that those "noobs" ignore any compents (if I think on hephappy's thread) and think they know everything.
And because they don't work on there own project, they don't know how much work (all in the free time of the devs) has to be done.
Don't worry
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
Rom manager -> Download rom -> hephappy -> Select rom
No more xda = no more noobs...
Rom manager note:
ROM hosting is free. ROMs hosted via ROM Manager Developer Portal will be listed
in the free section 5 days of the week. The other 2 days of the week, it will be
listed in the premium section. The days may vary from developer to developer
so not all developers are in the premium section at the same time.
Woohoo okkayyy
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Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
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Thanks Hep...
I do not have ROM Manager on my phone till now, but will use it - only to be connected to your ROM updates !
don't know about others but I appreciate your hard work and will continue to do so no matter what
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Well you are complety right im a xda user for almost 2 years and this setion was fun thanks to devs. and users but in the last 2 months appears so many new people ho now everything altouhg im not a dev and only start about 2 days learning how to modify well you guys have all credit from yesterday i build JB just for learning propuses and that gave me an ideai of what you guys do for free but noobs keep sayng others phones why ours dont lol just lol what i think is more worst is that they dont read first before postimg stupid stuff android its not made only for p500 and android versions evolve like the new phones evolve if we want new stuff we need other phone we cant push more for this awseome device that was my first android device and thanks to this comunity open source now i have 3 diferent devices of course we cant buy what we want whenever we want but noobs have to learn how to trust devs. if they say this is impossible to rum thats because its RESPECT TO M.A.C. TEAM AND ALL OTHERS THAT ONLY GEEKS THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING I LEARN AND AM LEARNING ABOUT ANDROID IN A GENERAL WAY.
.spcealy arjen ho already give me tipes and with them i put CM9 working in my tablet thanks a lot.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
myawan said:
I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
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Everybody is a "noob" at one time.Lot of people think they are the boss and call others noobs, but that pretty much wont last long.I ain't a developer but love all the developing works in here.Its really obvious from the thank meters of great devs, how much respected they are in this community.
Not anybody is born really intelligent and talented.
Everybody learn something from others and improve it.That is how the system works.
Everybody has their own field which they are perfect at.In that field, the "bosses" in here could be noobs.
I think everybody should learn to respect others to gain respect.
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Lots of ego stuff, from both sides
Me too,going to get sgs2.
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100% Noob for Reason and Courtesy
I have been a professional developer but for internals and ROMs, I am 100% "Noob." Most of what I see on this little thread is much less than helpful. Enough already.
Anyone who read my posts would see that my tone does not fit the stereotype be harangued here. I do not use the F word, the S word, make ridiculous claims and demands of more experienced (fantastic!) "Devs." Any suggestions I make are with respect and humility. Maybe the ideas will pan out, maybe not.
If I do not have CM10 on this old phone, I am delighted with ICS. (Indeed, Google Now will soon enough work here without JB, a matter of time and ingenuity.) I do hope JB (or as I have termed in more realistically "Jelly-Sandwich") will work on the phone, but there are other things in life. I did not enter XDA for all the negativity and tension. Friendship and respect are more important the ROMs and tweaks.
I dont read p500 so munch like old time, im have buy new device and i busy with that, but this problem has rolling day by day, even before arjen and adam start developing here, it has make alot of casualties like andy, doctornotor, etc..
What you expect from from developer?
Their ideas, their works, their time, so i think they must have bigger egos than me, im just a Leacher... Just download and give feedbacks if you like their works, or leave it like that if you hate he/his works. No need flaming, another person have their glasses and viewpoint.
Xda is made for us. we here for our needs, even every devices will death development, we just try make as long as we can, and flaming is not the way to make our beloved p500 ageless like htc hero...
Thx for all developers That i known for 1.5years till now day in this section... GBU.
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Arjen, I shall call franco here
He was the most obsessed by noob questions
You believe that a kernel dev recieved PMs regarding how to flash kernels. Lol
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Arjen, can I request you to close this thread? I could understand your good intentions behind starting this thread but this is going totally in a different direction. I hope all of you agree with me that tit for tat attitude is not good for anybody. Its high time that we stop all this and come to normal mode, cooperate and make this community a great place to do better things.