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I was a G1 user forever... And I remember there being talk of making the G1 able to utilize the HSPA network... so does that mean it is possible for any phone utilize it? or.... ??? I am kinda confuised... maybe it can utilize it... but not be able to utilize the maximum HSPA+ speeds....
It's hardware. Don't you think every phone would have HSPA+?
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renocivik said:
I was a G1 user forever... And I remember there being talk of making the G1 able to utilize the HSPA network... so does that mean it is possible for any phone utilize it? or.... ??? I am kinda confuised... maybe it can utilize it... but not be able to utilize the maximum HSPA+ speeds....
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Yeah, you heard right. pretty much all the newer tmo smart phones will be getting a boost, but they will not be getting the full speed unless they have the hardware. So, you will get the full 3G speed and depending on your reception, you might go a little faster. Almost like a speed boost. To take advantage of the full 4g or HSPA+ you will need the hardware.
I heard there isn't a HUGE difference as of yet between the normal HSPA and HSPA+ hardware in terms of speed. I was in LA two months ago and I was getting 4.5 megs down with my Nexus One which isn't HSPA+.
Maybe later on down the line when HSPA+ is full rolled out across the country and they bump the speeds up even more then at that point having the HSPA+ hardware will make a difference but I don't see that happening for a while.
In the meantime, here's to hoping we all get covered by the network soon!
i live in So Cal with normal 3g now. a few months ago when i had mt3g, I Went to an area where they had to new network. it was MUCH faster. and this was with mt3g
"The Vibrant will have HSPA+ when the Froyo update comes out. T-mobile Is dropping it this month. So really soon." was searching for that same question of the vibrant getting some sort of update that would allow the hardware to decode the data packages, its the same thing like the g1. when the towers updated to hspa+ from regular hspa it was only a software upgrade what makes anyone think that these new powerful phone wont be able to get a software upgrade also? so the answer is more to yes than no. and to "It's hardware. Don't you think every phone would have HSPA+?" why dont you think about that for a little. g1 did it so can this & yes the original galaxy s has hspa+ hardware but i think it was disabled in the us version until we would need it since it would use more power just being left on without it being used. also rumor is that the hummingbird chip is running at 1.2 gighertz in the i9000 so i overclocked my virbrant at 1.2 gighertz & its running with no problems! also we might need those extra 200 hertz to keep things running normal if we get the hspa+ upgrade im pretty sure it will need it.
Multiple technical support reps have told me over the phone that Atrix will do LTE (att flavor I guess). Yet I everything I've read contradicts this. Rumor is att will begin launching lte in certain areas june/july. Can anyone offer some clarifications reflgarding the Atrix radio capabilities?
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Multiple technical support reps have told me over the phone that Atrix will do LTE (att flavor I guess). Yet I everything I've read contradicts this. Rumor is att will begin launching lte in certain areas june/july. Can anyone offer some clarifications reflgarding the Atrix radio capabilities?
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They told me the same thing! when i bought the phone i specifically asked them and they said yes
forget it, they meant hspa+, this phone doesn't have a lte radio, no matter who says anything
HSPA can do up too 14.4mps and thats why they care calling it 4g even though 4g originally was data service of 100mb or better. The Atrix like stated above DOES NOT have the LTE radio no madder what ATT tells you.
Im not even on true HSPA in my area but I do know one thing, ever since the update that unlocked the upload I have seen 6mb down and 1.2mb up. I almost always see between 3-5mb now and I'm not even in a 4g area.
The good thing about HSPA is it uses the same 3g towers and technology so battery is not affected. I guess the verizon guys on LTE are seeing very horrible battery life compared to running 3g. Thats why those Thunderbolts get such bad battery life. We get faster speeds without hurting the battery.
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HSPA can do up too 14.4mps and thats why they care calling it 4g even though 4g originally was data service of 100mb or better. The Atrix like stated above DOES NOT have the LTE radio no madder what ATT tells you.
Im not even on true HSPA in my area but I do know one thing, ever since the update that unlocked the upload I have seen 6mb down and 1.2mb up. I almost always see between 3-5mb now and I'm not even in a 4g area.
The good thing about HSPA is it uses the same 3g towers and technology so battery is not affected. I guess the verizon guys on LTE are seeing very horrible battery life compared to running 3g. Thats why those Thunderbolts get such bad battery life. We get faster speeds without hurting the battery.
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There are multiple versions of HSPA - the Atrix can do 14.4 mbps on download, but other phones can do 7.2 or 21 or even 42 mbps. The Atrix will not support LTE ever. It does not have an LTE modem and is not upgradeable to one. ifixit's teardown showed that the Atrix has a Qualcomm MDM6200, which is not an LTE modem (http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releas...ls-new-roadmap-gobi-connectivity-technologies).
The best download speeds i've found in my area are about 7.1 down. Pretty darn good....not consistent at all though.
It also seems like att is coaching employees to tell customers that the Atrix will do LTE.
Im starting to wonder if they are going to market their hspa+ as a synonym for LTE.
Thanks for the responses and the link. Pretty clear att is continuing to lie about the subject.
If any of you are curious I encourage you to call ATT tech support and ask them about LTE and the Atrix. Post your responses here.
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Lets be realistic about this:
HSPA and LTE aren't that far apart from each other in the current state. Theoretically speaking, HSPA should be VERY close to LTE speeds once they fully roll out. HSPA is "4G" like whenever that will be fully rolled out to everyone. I'm sure there are a ton of you that are going to give out all of these statistics and what not to disprove me. The fact is, those numbers are all in "theory" and the fact of the matter is that we will never see those speeds....EVER, unless you live next to a cell tower.
I personally think that if we get 14mb speeds, we're damn good. The point is do we really need all of that speed?...not really...it's not that big of a deal. The phone is pretty bomb, the features are amazing.
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It also seems like att is coaching employees to tell customers that the Atrix will do LTE.
Thanks for the responses and the link. Pretty clear att is continuing to lie about the subject.
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I really don't think they are training their employees to say the phone is LTE capable. AT&T knows what the phone can and cannot do (its even printed on the box)
It sounds like you've just spoken with people who either didn't get all the facts or don't know the difference... not everybody is nerdy like us on all this HSPA+ LTE stuff
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I have an Infuse and plan to stay with it until it comes off contract, but I looked at the SGSII page on AT&T's website and it says 4G HSPA+... Really? Is it really only HSPA+? Or does AT&T want to repel all customers by advertising a Ferrari as having a 20HP Ford engine?
LTE is on a different model and comes out later. This one is HSPA+ only.
I'm glad it doesn't have LTE. I like having a reasonably sized phone with good battery life.
Haven't you noticed that Verizon customers are screwed? They get a choice of outdated underpowered phones, or battery-hogging fatties that provide no speed benefits for a significant portion of the population. In fact, apparently many of Verizon's LTE phones don't work well at all in non-LTE service areas.
I won't see LTE anywhere near where I live for years (probably not until my next upgrade cycle at least) so I'm glad this doesn't have LTE.
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I have an Infuse and plan to stay with it until it comes off contract, but I looked at the SGSII page on AT&T's website and it says 4G HSPA+... Really? Is it really only HSPA+? Or does AT&T want to repel all customers by advertising a Ferrari as having a 20HP Ford engine?
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No, it does not have LTE. LTE on AT&T is only available in a very small amount of cities. However, AT&T is not good at advertising just as you are not good at researching....
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I'm glad it doesn't have LTE. I like having a reasonably sized phone with good battery life.
Haven't you noticed that Verizon customers are screwed? They get a choice of outdated underpowered phones, or battery-hogging fatties that provide no speed benefits for a significant portion of the population. In fact, apparently many of Verizon's LTE phones don't work well at all in non-LTE service areas.
I won't see LTE anywhere near where I live for years (probably not until my next upgrade cycle at least) so I'm glad this doesn't have LTE.
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+1 10char.
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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.
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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.
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Your ****ing kidding me right? You can't be that dumb. It's not software related. There is NO LTE modem in the device. Are people seriously this gullible?
They use the same systemUI.apk where all your 3G, H, and H+ icons are located and just change xml's for different devices.
If the guy at the store said you can run iPhone apps, you going to believe him too?
Call me a jerk, asshole, whatever some people just need to be treated like they have no intelligence.
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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.
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yep.
SALESMEN NEVER LIE TO MAKE A SALE
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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.
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Store reps can NEVER be trusted for information like this.
And the presence of icons means nothing. A lot of frameworks are designed in a generic manner to ease software maintenance. We've got bootsplashes for Korean devices in our param.lfs for example.
Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.
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Because by marketing regulations, AT&T can call their HSPA+ network 4G.
I'm surprised no one's complaining about TMO's less competent HSPA+ network.
Its just how oil companies can market their stuff as full synthetic as long as they have an X% of synthetic oil in overall volume.
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Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.
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You didn't "see reports of it being a possibility" - you said it was definitely on this phone.
It is definitely NOT on this phone.
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You didn't "see reports of it being a possibility" - you said it was definitely on this phone.
It is definitely NOT on this phone.
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+1 and ill chill out when you educate yourself.
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In the "post your stock firmware " thread most, but not all were identical. Could odd balls possibly have different hardware? I can early upgrade on 10/16 from Infuse. If LTE version comes out wouldn't one be able to disable LTE radio/network like other bands? Would think it also would have hsdpa+ as a fallback??
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Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.
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In your post you said it was "definitely" on this phone "because the guy in the store told you" and you wonder why you got skewered?
At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.
But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.
The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
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At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.
But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.
The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
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+1 - Couldn't agree more.
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In the "post your stock firmware " thread most, but not all were identical. Could odd balls possibly have different hardware? I can early upgrade on 10/16 from Infuse. If LTE version comes out wouldn't one be able to disable LTE radio/network like other bands? Would think it also would have hsdpa+ as a fallback??
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No, the LTE version just entered field testing. It is different sized phone and uses a different CPU (1.5Ghz Qualcomm vs 1.2GHz Exynos) as well. So, there will not be a mix up.
I guess the way AT&T advertises is they write 4G in bold letters with a star which says 4G speeds by HSPA Network.
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At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.
But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.
The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
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Is LTE even that much faster than H+'s 21mbps? I don't see the point of getting an LTE phone for that extra speed while it drains your battery. How much speed do you really need to play Words with Friends? I'll stick with H+ phones
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
kidrythm said:
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
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Just got my Amaze a few weeks ago... and I do believe this phone was promised to have a great connection... "HSPA+ 42" .... Mine works OK... but I live in Chicago. Sometimes it all depends on where you live..... if you live in a major city then you shouldn't have too many signal problems.
I found a T-Mobile customer support link you might wanna check out....
Tell me if this works for you...
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3294
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.[1]
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[1] Update: ... And this week AT&T announced the end to even the grandfathered unlimited data plans (like I had from 2006).
honestly can you even tell? to browse on your phone i dont think you need a better connection than 10mb/s i get 2 because of the area im in (WIND is the Equivalent of T-Mobile USA) and im happy with it lol ( speeds are supposed to be 5-12 mb/s
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Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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AT&T doesn't have good plans... My boyfriend has LTE ... he has the SGSII SKYROCKET.... he only gets 2GB of data... then after he exceeds... they give him AOL DIAL UP SPEEDS... and he has the UNLIMITED PLAN.... and he pays $115 / mon.
I pay $85 / mon and get 5GB of data on the HSPA+ 42 network.... hmmmmm
I WIN. (and so do you.... )
I get 10-12mbit connections, compared to my hd2 which got me 1-2mbit. there is a difference. Also, I feel like the amaze is slightly better, since the hd2's network capability is horrible, after 1 hour of being in a dead spot, it won't try to re-establish a network when I'm back in a signal zone. The only way to get it again is to restart. Tried it with multiple radios/roms.
ChromeJob said:
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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Tmo towers are getting updated this year. In some spots I already get 20-27 mb/s in the Twin Cities MN
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My hd2 gave me about 2-3mbs, my amaze gives me 12-15mbs and peaks of 18-22
Glorious!!!!
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Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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Make sure you update the SIM card to the new "4G" SIM cards. I used to work at T-Mo and you need the new SIM card to have better connection.
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Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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I actually prefer 4G over my WiFi. But I don't wanna get throttled -__-
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I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
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I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
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I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
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Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
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Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
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Agreed!
At least the development here isn't born of pure frustration like it was for the HD2.
The countless denials and misdirection from T-Mobile, my 6 years of problem free history ended when I activated the powerful nightmare (all cell giants have accepted the dark side by now).
It was a year and a half before I felt comfortable using an sd Rom.
I still don't trust the hardware for a full wipe...
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Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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What are your initial thoughts?
Imho, this is the HD3...
My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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The addition of the forward facing camera, dedicated camera/vid button, and a larger market (pathetic, anemic, sorry assed Windows marketplace, and the millions of harsh unknown sources offering buggy ugly 'apps' for 6.5) is really all I needed in the Leo to make it 100%...
I'm not in any hurry to tweak this phone, it's pretty much where my Leo was, save for the obvious refinements.
The process is a bit more involved on this unit, so we'll see.
ICS looks pretty good too.
But for now, yeah, I made the right choice over the Samsung GSII and I am happy overall.
No restarts, dead pixels, overheating issues on either unit.
Couldnt have said it better. Although I do recommend to root your phone and flash a diff rom + kernel - its a battery saver
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Okay, when people have sigline images that are 4 times the height of the post, it's time to turn off signatures. C'mon people, be respectful of those with limited bandwidth, or ... who want to read your words, not ogle your MSPAINT skills.
My "4G" speeds are erratic as heck. One minute I get 2.7mbps, the next I get 188kbps. Welcome to the ISDN era...
Could this be because I dropped in the SIM card from my old HD2? What voodoo is in the SIM card makes that much difference? I thought the new SIM card was just for WiFi calling...
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
I'm getting about 60 down/up, although I was on my og evo too...
It'll be nice once we get the 3g tweaks in roms
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
JoshHuman said:
For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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Mine is that way as well close to home speeds suck at work they are good lol. either place doesn't matter to much as both have WiFi but it sucks when I'm driving around soon tho soon all will be better....
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so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
woody296 said:
That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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Me either, just common sense.
While a better antenna may help I wouldn't expect to see drastic improvements.
Sprint 3G is just plain crap right now, in most locations anyway.
Surprisingly at work I get over 2megs down sometimes, nowhere else though.
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
indiscriminant said:
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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My point exactly. I got slightly better speeds with the Photon over the Evo 3D but it seems some people are expecting to see dramatic improvements.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am seeing the same.
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
othersteve said:
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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As much as I hate to say this..here in North Houston, the speeds are BAD. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd never gotten as many dropped or failed 3G connections on my OG Evo as I'm getting with this phone. Could be b/c NV is working itself out..but it's quite frustrating to watch the 3G signal keep disappearing and reappearing.
Because of that, I started fiddling with some old settings and found a way to boost SIGNAL strength but not 3G speeds..see link below and hopefully someone can figure something out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26549367#post26549367
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
Tokynet said:
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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to be honest rooting your phone has nothing to do with your 3g connection ect... it dont efect it in anyway..
woody296 said:
That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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That is not even remotely true. If you feel the need to argue it, throw written proof in your reply.