What is the best way to boot into Android when I turn on my device. I have tried that dual boot load but I have a problems with it not working is there an easy way or just open heart every time.
Thanks
DVA4890 said:
What is the best way to boot into Android when I turn on my device. I have tried that dual boot load but I have a problems with it not working is there an easy way or just open heart every time.
Thanks
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I'm assuming you mean HaRET.exe.
Easiest way is Gen.Y.
Slightly less conveinent would be adding a shortcut to your start menu/desktop in WinMo.
Least easy, find haret.exe in your favorite file explorer application.
None of these I can say are "the best" - use what works best for you, the end result is the same for all - you get into Android. Gen.Y definitely does it the fastest, you don't even see WinMo really that way.
However, these are issues related to WinMo, and not Android or XDAndroid - this really isn't the correct section of the forum.
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Hey guys, so I searched and search, using the search function as described in the forum rules, and couldn't come across anything with this nature, so if anyone has an urge to help out a noob I would really appreciate it!
So I downloaded the new Android Desire V4 rom, someone told me there were instructions in the download, which there were...they read as follows...
set mtype 2524
set ramaddr 0x20000000
set ramsize 0x0fc00000
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set initrd_offset 0x00a00000
set cmdline ""
boot
So my question is, again, um how do I do any of that! LOL Those look like a list of things I am supposed to do as opposed to actual instructions on how to do them LOL
If I run HaRet, it boots, but from my understanding I need to do the above list to make it functioning to it's (current) fullest potential?
Thanks for any assists!
i haven't tried android, not interested in kids play things, but that to me lookslike a list of setup commands, , sure they aren't supposed to go in an initialization file of some kind?
thats the startup txt details, and all you hav to do is copy it all to ur sd root and thats it its honestly not worth it at the min unless u just gonna play about for a bit
hmm
samsamuel said:
i haven't tried android, not interested in kids play things, but that to me lookslike a list of setup commands, , sure they aren't supposed to go in an initialization file of some kind?
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Probably, but I don't even know what that means! LOL
I am like a super noob..haha.
I guess I am asking specifically what you would do, every step, to do the list of setup commands.
1. How do I change to those values, like which part of the phone I go into.
2. If they need to be installed, how exactly, specifically do I install them.
I am basically looking for full instructions. For example if I were teaching someone to watch a DVD who has never used a DVD/movie playing device before, I wouldn't just say "put it in and watch it." I would say. "This is the power button. Click that to turn the device on. This is the open tray button, click this, and place the DVD shiny/mirror side down flat. Click the open tray button again to close the tray. Once closed it should automatically play, if not click the button with the sideways triangle on it to start the movie."
Like that is how nooby I am with this stuff LOL..but not stupid enough to change something I shouldn't, screw something up. If the instructions are there, I got it.
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thats the startup txt details, and all you hav to do is copy it all to ur sd root and thats it its honestly not worth it at the min unless u just gonna play about for a bit
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So I don't have to do anything? I have booted Android Desire V4 rom about 22 times so far, and every single time it is stuck in fast forward mode, does not give me the sim option like in the instructions on the website to download the file, and is generally the exact opposite of what everyone is claiming it is/doing.
So I would assume I am missing some key crucial steps no? Also My radio rom is fine, I reformatted my SD Card, it's fresh and all files are on the root of the card. From the sounds of it, you have to do something with the zImage (from what I have read), and something else... this is why I am confused.
as far as i'm aware there are still a few issues where certain models cant run it properly? and isn't there something about there being a few different digitizers, and it only works on some? (that might not be an issue anymore, i've not been keeping up)
i tried android quite a few times on my previous device (htc kaiser). i believe nearly the same concepts apply to the HD2 at the current stage of android development for the HD2.
facts:
1. you should know that android's files are to be kept on the sd card according to the instructions (more details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646)
2. you should know that your windows and any settings made under windows will remain INTACT. this is because android, being in the storage card, is like an independent operating system.
3. point 2 above implies that any settings specific to windows or specifically made in the windows system settings (etc) have NO IMPACT on android. so no need to ask:
1. How do I change to those values, like which part of the phone I go into.
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4. the only things important to android are the radio ROM version and MAYBE the (Hard)SPL version.
5. android is spun into action using "haret". haret is a little program that is started from windows but it essentially kicks out windows (temporarily) and tricks the phone into booting android from the sd card.
so from all of the above points, we can conclude that any and all configurations for android must be made in some text files. this text file must be placed according to the instructions somewhere along side haret and the rest of the android files on the sd card. this should answer:
2. If they need to be installed, how exactly, specifically do I install them.
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this text file, as suggested by demon_man in post 3 in this thread is the "startup.txt". another name for startup.txt is "default.txt". these files are the same, except that haret pre-selects "default.txt" as your startup script when you launch haret. this saves you the step of manually selecting a particular startup file (you can have a bunch of startup files with different settings in each to experiment and you can name them ANYTHING). so after experimenting, you should arrive at a startup file containing configurations that work well for you. you can then name this file as "default.txt" and you can also optionally delete all the other startup files you created while you were experimenting.
i hope the above gives you some idea of what to do. if i had tried android on the HD2 for myself and if i had personally done more research of android on the HD2, i would have certainly given you some links of material that i am CERTAIN already exists, if you fancy searching just a little bit. being a noob is no excuse, because "search" is the FIRST forum rule. and just saying that you searched without posting some example keywords of what you searched for sounds "fishy", so not sure you searched well
i have written the above to help you build your concept, but we would all applaud for you (yay!) if you post in the appropriate threads for android and android tutorials from now on. i doubt you will need to post more because what i have tried to detail for you above should be a very solid foundation for you to understand how the wonderful people here at xda have gotten android to work on devices it was never released for.
I have a massive headache trying to figure all this stuff out.
I have a t-mobile hd2
RAM of 576 and Speed of 1024MHz and Flash of 1024MB
when hold the volume and power button, it reads the following:
PB81120 SS-B3
SPL-2.08.HSPL 8G XE
0x05
CotullaHSPL 0x40
I downloaded the andriod installer on my computer, along with HSPL, HSPL2, and HSPL3.
My objective is to hopefully get android on my Leo.
Ive read all the threads and im just really confused...I ran HSPL2 and i get an error screen that says i have a bad Model ID.
PLEASE HELP ME...IM SO LOST!!
You have some options:
1. Use search function of the board. (recommended)
2. Try to get the answer is the Android porting thread. I suggest to search the thread first (recommended, too)
3. this one
Ulti
i tried all of that and i get so confused...can someone actually help me?
I'm going to help so many next time you will help yourself and look a little more.
First of all you dont need to flash and thing to run android. It is in beta currently and is ran buy haret which is kinda like a emulator. When you read the link below you will realize that it has all kinds of problems. Those problems are known.There is also a Faq about those problems and what you can do to help solve them.
there are not instructions on how to operate android. By trying this we assume you know a little bit about android.
It looks like you already have the hslp but I am also going to provide a link on how to flash rom's and radio's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
This is direct information on forum for installing android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
This is the spoon fed version
>INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR DIFFERENT BUILDS<
DarkStone1337 - HTC Sense (Desire build)
1. Download from one of the above sites and extract the contents to your pc
2. Copy all files to the ROOT of your Storage Card
3. Using a File Manager goto your Storage Card and run clrad.exe (it wont do anything but it has run) followed by haret.exe
4. Wait for Android to boot (may take upto 5 minutes)
dan1j3l - Froyo build
1. Download from one of the above sites and extract the contents to your pc
2. Copy the Android folder (including all files within the folder) to the ROOT of your Storage Card
3. Using a File Manager goto your Storage Card, Android folder and run clrad.exe (it wont do anything but it has run) followed by haret.exe
4. Wait for Android to boot (may take upto 5 minutes)
Or...you could try this...I've been using it for the last two days and everything seems to work on it
http://hotfile.com/list/600926/774f186
Download the Sense Droid and follow the istructions attached on file
No disrespect ment to you as I do know you have been around for a while. But it seems as though he doesnt have much experience in doing this.
That would seem like its just gunna cause more problems. there is still problems with power management. So its gunna eat away at his battery. This I know because I run android almost full time and thats a risk i'm just willing to deal with.
Secondly it boots right into android no stopping at windows. So if something goes wrong he is stuck. And will have to reflash.
I tried it and couldnt tether and had to go right back. Maybe he doesnt need to tether so it could be fine but I really think he should start off slow.
hazard99 said:
No disrespect ment to you as I do know you have been around for a while. But it seems as though he doesnt have much experience in doing this.
That would seem like its just gunna cause more problems. there is still problems with power management. So its gunna eat away at his battery. This I know because I run android almost full time and thats a risk i'm just willing to deal with.
Secondly it boots right into android no stopping at windows. So if something goes wrong he is stuck. And will have to reflash.
I tried it and couldnt tether and had to go right back. Maybe he doesnt need to tether so it could be fine but I really think he should start off slow.
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Non taken mate...I was not thinking about what you said
If that's the case....he'll read both of your posts and make the proper desition.
Have a great day!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
which one do i chose, The Energy.Leo.21911.Sense2.5.(Jul.21.7z) OR THE
Energy.Leo.23121.Sense2.5.(Jul.21.7z)????
i downloaded sense, but no android market...whats up with that?
Android
Why do you want Android on your WM phone???
The builds you downloaded are still windows mobile. You really need to read the htc-Linux thread
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all i want is the android app store on my phone...thats it. how do i do that without having to boot it up from my phone through haret.exe?
Android is a completely different operating system than windows mobile. The android app store and the apps will not work in windows mobile!
If you try to install a windows application on linux OS you will fail too.
Everything you need to know is in this post
This Thread tells you step by step how to do it want what you need to do it forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948 it work fine for me i had no problems at all doing it the market great and my phone is running just fine
ITZMACMATIC said:
This Thread tells you step by step how to do it want what you need to do it forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948 it work fine for me i had no problems at all doing it the market great and my phone is running just fine
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Please look at dates of threads before you reply to them. This thread is 6 months old. It was made before Android was finished being ported. I'm sure the people in this thread already know about Android.
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Sorry I saw it there didn't think to check the date my bad
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Android on the HD2 - is it just run from the microSD card or an actual "ROM" ?
I'm not new to ROMs (been mucking around with cell phones and PocketPCs for many many years now) but I'm a bit confused about the Android situation with respect to the HD2 (just found one, literally found one, and if I can get it functional I'm keeping it).
I see all these "ROMs" here and I have to ask the question:
Are they actually ROMs that I'd be using to replace the Windows Mobile stock factory ROM, or all these just "ROMs" that exist in a folder on the microSD card and I simply run some executable that fires up Android as though it were just another application running on top of Windows Mobile?
Trying to make the question simple so I hope that's enough. Wasn't sure exactly where to put it so Q&A seemed the best choice.
Thanks for any information anyone can provide.
br0adband said:
...Are they actually ROMs that I'd be using to replace the Windows Mobile stock factory ROM, or all these just "ROMs" that exist in a folder on the microSD card and I simply run some executable that fires up Android as though it were just another application running on top of Windows Mobile?...
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the latter...you fire up haret which shuts down windows and loads android. android does not / cannot (for the time being) exist without windows. if you remove the sd card, android ceases to exist on your phone; windows cannot be removed.
hope that answers your question.
Ok, so when you say that one app "shuts down windows" does that mean that Android fires up and is in complete control of the device as though it had actually booted off it directly from ROM, or is it running as an application on top of Windows Mobile, that's where I get confused.
I saw a reference that some Android builds on the HD2 actually run faster or at least they benchmark higher than a real Android device like the Nexus One. I find that tough to believe but hey, if the HD2 can do it, awesome...
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Ok, so when you say that one app "shuts down windows" does that mean that Android fires up and is in complete control of the device as though it had actually booted off it directly from ROM, or is it running as an application on top of Windows Mobile, that's where I get confused.
I saw a reference that some Android builds on the HD2 actually run faster or at least they benchmark higher than a real Android device like the Nexus One. I find that tough to believe but hey, if the HD2 can do it, awesome...
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my understanding is it shuts windows down - it is not running as an app on top of windows, though uses the hardware to fire android. when android runs it is in control of the device. you cannot have windows and android running at the same time.
"But Maaaaaaa" (ala Eric Cartman, South Park)
Ok, so we can only run Android from the SD card. But this begs the question....WHY? What is it about the HD2 that precludes the ability to remove Winjunk altogether?
To be able to run android directly from ROM, Android needs to use NAND.
AFAIK NAND is available, but noone knows how to use it directly.
Developpers are busy trying [thread], but until now without success, however signs are it is nearly completed.
As far as I understand, NAND preloads some drivers needed for Android. (like CLRCAD which is needed for sound)
Someone knows answer to folowing:
If NAND is possible/available, will booting Android be faster? Will the "Linux boot output" disappear or not.
Until now I think Android is booting (very) slow, partially due to the "Linux boot output" (scrolling lines)
Just a quick one as I haven't been able to find a post about it so far...
For those who have heard of PSFreedom, there's a build for the HD2, but it has Android bundled with it because it's aimed at WinMo users.
I am already running Android on mine and dont want to inadvertently copy over vital files so does anyone know/has anyone tried and managed to get it to work?
Pav
Its not bundled with android because its aimed at winmo users, It has android because the whole android build is custom and needs to be that way(currently). I'm sure sometime soon it will be possible to add to a current android build but for now you have to use it this way.
The easiest thing to do is to download one of the multi loaders for winmo, which lets you have multiple builds of android on you sd card and select which one you boot into. I currently have the PSfreedom build plus four other builds on my SD card and I just select which one I want to boot.
Nice one mate, thanks! I'm gonna trawl for a multi loader and give it a go now
what exactly does this app do? have a ps3 but never heard of this...
Its a custom build of android that allows you to "jailbreak" the ps3 so that you are able to run homebrew and backup games on it. It needs to be used each time the ps3 is turned on to re-jailbreak it.
It started out as a usb stick with a processor on it that you plugged into the ps3, each time it was turned on. but it has now been ported to many devices.
Heres the link for the android build that has been made for the hd2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777120
With the multi-loaders that we have, it's not really that inconvenient to boot into the android build each time. It would be nice though if it could somehow be added to the current full android builds that we have, though I'm not sure if that is even possible as I don't know how it works.
Hello,
im kind of new to this, i would really like to run android on my phone cause it has apps i like alot and unfortunately cant get those on windows.
the problem is i have no idea what's best to use and what kind of things i have to download to get it work properly.
hopefully someone can help me with this, it will be very appreciated
thanks alot.
Greets,
Marcel
Firstly make sure you have a winmo rom the is android friendly, then download an android build that you like the look of, place it on the root of your mem card /android , then run clrcad followed by haret in the android dir (get one of the many launchers to automate that though), first boot of android will take a fair while though, finally enjoy.
ZedEx48K said:
Firstly make sure you have a winmo rom the is android friendly, then download an android build that you like the look of, place it on the root of your mem card /android , then run clrcad followed by haret in the android dir (get one of the many launchers to automate that though), first boot of android will take a fair while though, finally enjoy.
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ok thanks,
htcpedia.com/kwbr_HD2_com3_Android/soft/htc-leo-rom.html is this any good ? or is there anything where i can download an entire package ?
thanks
I personally use the Artemis rom as I like a rom that is as clean and default as a stock rom as possible but with the latest updates and have FroyoStone_Sense_V2 running along side it with no problems (well other than the ones known to the dev ) launched by Android_Loader_V4.1 (sorry no links, all easy found with the search on here).
It all seems confusing at first but becomes second nature soon enough, don't forget you will need to HARDSPL your device first, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 for all the info.
okay, is that the most common one used by others ? i have no idea what i should choose lol thanks for the info so far