Can anyone recommend a good micro sd card for $50 dollars or under?
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This is a question I was about to ask as well....
but i'd also like to know, if a microSDHC would work?
I sure hope so, because I just purchased this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TG3AW8
WinTek cards from Frys are cheap & work very well. Sometimes you can find Patriot 32GB Class 10 for 80ish if you're willing to spend a little more at Frys also.
I'm currently using the Transcend 8GB class 6 in all of my devices, speeds are pretty good so far - they are around $15-20 including a SD adapter.
greetz
frysee said:
I'm currently using the Transcend 8GB class 6 in all of my devices, speeds are pretty good so far - they are around $15-20 including a SD adapter.
greetz
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I am using Transcend 16GB class 6 for my Transformer.
Class 6 is FAST. and 16GB is the highest for Class 6 at this point in time.
Around 50 dollars give or take 5 dollars.
I'm in the UK and am looking for a fast 16 gig micro SD for the tablet ,and a fast 32 gig sd for the dock any recommendations would be great
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Dummyaccount89 said:
I am using Transcend 16GB class 6 for my Transformer.
Class 6 is FAST. and 16GB is the highest for Class 6 at this point in time.
Around 50 dollars give or take 5 dollars.
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I went with Transcend as well - $52 on Amazon for 16gb class 6: http://amzn.to/i9fNPa
I'm ordering a couple of these (from NewEgg) for my TF:
WINTEC FileMate 16GB Professional Class 10 Secure Digital SDHC Card
Can't link yet, so just search for "N82E16820161396" from the main NewEgg site. Price seems good; $23.99.
Xenoterran said:
I'm ordering a couple of these (from NewEgg) for my TF:
WINTEC FileMate 16GB Professional Class 10 Secure Digital SDHC Card
Can't link yet, so just search for "N82E16820161396" from the main NewEgg site. Price seems good; $23.99.
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I'd like to know how your going to fit that card into your microSD slot...
Unless you have the keyboard dock already, and with the way that's been going thats doubtful
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I'd like to know how your going to fit that card into your microSD slot...
Unless you have the keyboard dock already, and with the way that's been going thats doubtful
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Wow! You are correct, sir. Major brain fart on my part. Hadn't hit the confirm order button so was able to save myself the headache.
I am currently using the Wintec 16gb class 10 and they are fine. Speeds are way above 10mb per second write. I get up to 12 mb per sec write and 17mb per sec read.
Polaroid 16GB from Fry's is $17.99 this week after rebate. Bad news is mine just died today in my N1 (error check fails / can't format). Good news is that it's lasted in my daily driver phones for the last two years. Considering I used it for swap while I had a G1 I'm surprised it didn't die sooner. Not a bad deal if you regularly backup your SD.
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I am currently using the Wintec 16gb class 10 and they are fine. Speeds are way above 10mb per second write. I get up to 12 mb per sec write and 17mb per sec read.
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I second that. I bought 2 of these and they are running great.
I'm using a 16GB Mustang card (class 10) I got on eBay, and it's working pretty good.
shawnbuell said:
Can anyone recommend a good micro sd card for $50 dollars or under?
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I bought this Class 6 16gb for the Transformer from here:
http://www.buy.com/prod/3c-pro-16gb...sb/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/216378753.html
It's fast and comes with an SD adapter and a USB adapter. I paid about $31 including shipping.
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I sure hope so, because I just purchased this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TG3AW8
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$36 dollars for a 16GB class 6 card? Let me enlighten you, shawnbuell meet Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ption=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
I have this card in my HTC EVO (should work with any device though) and pretty happy with it, its fast and cheap!
Patriot Signature 16 GB Class 10 MicroSDHC Flash Memory Card
Its definitely a class-10, the videos and pictures play and save pretty quickly compared to the stock card that came with the htc evo.
Can someone recommend a good (aka fast) 32GB micro sd card? I'm not concerned with cost. I'd rather just spend the money up front than worry about whether or not the card is too slow. Also, is there a nice comparison chart of 32GB cards with read/write speeds of various class cards?
Thx
EDIT: Well, I'm a bit confused. Which SD format does the tablet actually support? SD or SDHC? I would like to get the largest, fastest card.
MicroSDHC should work just fine.
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Can someone recommend a good (aka fast) 32GB micro sd card? I'm not concerned with cost. I'd rather just spend the money up front than worry about whether or not the card is too slow. Also, is there a nice comparison chart of 32GB cards with read/write speeds of various class cards?
Thx
EDIT: Well, I'm a bit confused. Which SD format does the tablet actually support? SD or SDHC? I would like to get the largest, fastest card.
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I ordered this for my self:
Lexar High Speed MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10 Flash Memory Card with Reader LSDMI32GBSBNAR
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I purchased a Kingston 32 gb class 6 micro sd card for my phone. I began to copy over the contents of my current card, but im at work and had to step out. I told a coworker that if they also had to leave to please just close the screen of my netbook so that its contents would be secure, hoping that it would have finished copying. It was not finished and the screen was closed putting the netbook into standby. When I returned and turned the comp back on the copy progress screen was blank and just all white as was the window depicting the contents of the card. I had to restart the computer as after 15 min nothing had changed. Now the card is not recognized. I checked it in my phone and computer and it says no disk is present. I put it in the sd adapter and try to format and my computer says there is no disk. I am at a loss?? I just got this freakin card and for a great deal that ill never find again especially for a class 6! Does any one have any ideas for me to try?? I know that its not entirely related to X10's but I can't seem to find any other avenues for help. I would like to not right this card off
Any help is sincerely appreciated
Did ya get it off ebay by any chance? Didn't think class 6 32 gb cards existed yet. I've had 2 off ebay (class not stated) and they both turned out to b hacked 2 gb 1s, they were both "good deals" a bit too good! Got a refund for em both so got 2 2gb cards for free
If it was from ebay at a great deal price... you're screwed... bought one myself only to find out it was a dupe... never got my money back
As far as I can see, there is only a 32 gb micro SD card from Sandisk.. so you got....
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As far as I can see, there is only a 32 gb micro SD card from Sandisk.. so you got....
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Transcend , Sandisk makes one, Nokia has one, not sure who makes it. I have had this problem before.. you have to low level format it and it will be fine. any questions just ask.
I am thinking of getting a 32 gb class 6 from ebay as well. Hope I have better luck
I bought one from ebay a couple weeks ago for like 13 dollars and it arrived today. Just popped it in the phone and its saying 31.24 gb.
It's a kingston card. I'll try copying some stuff over and see how it goes.
EDIT. Copying my 11 gb of music over writing at 3.5 MB/s
Class was not stated when I bought mine. I just figured for 13 bucks i'll take the chance.
Did you not think to look HERE first?
XperiaX10iUser said:
Did you not think to look HERE first?
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No sign of a 32 GB card there
zyexx said:
No sign of a 32 GB card there
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Exactly
Yeah I started to transfer things to mine and after about 7 GB it wouldn't allow anymore on the card. Trying to format it, it was taking hours. Knew it was too good to be true.
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Kingston has 32gb Sdhc micro cards, they are new.
the estimated price is around 110 dollars.
If you buy a card for 20 bucks at ebay you realy wonder why its a fake?
lets hope the price will fall fast
im gonna buy mine in a store not at ebay. Quality->Price
I think there is no support on the x10 for 32gb sd card yet. You also need an opptinal uppdate from windows update to read 32gb cards. And remeber its not sd carts you need to use its micro sdhc cards ;-)
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I think there is no support on the x10 for 32gb sd card yet. You also need an opptinal uppdate from windows update to read 32gb cards. And remeber its not sd carts you need to use its micro sdhc cards ;-)
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the x10 supports 32gb out of the box no update required...
got 32GB class 4 SanDisk, works like a charm
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got 32GB class 4 SanDisk, works like a charm
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FWIW, I have a Kingston class 4 32GB, it also works fine on 1.6 I have 5,000 songs with album art on it as well as things like the language modules from Swiftkey, etc and still have 2gb free.
I have had a 32gb micro sd sandisk for about 3 months now, no problems to report (UK) purchased online from Carphone Warehouse. Only issue is whereas android shows roughly 3gb storage free, when using mediascape to transfer music, it only shows 120mb of storage remaining - bummer
Caution on eBay sellers & Get a SDHC READER!
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I am thinking of getting a 32 gb class 6 from ebay as well. Hope I have better luck
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THERE ARE NO TRUE CLASS 6 32G micro SDHC cards.
And as a caution, here's a FAKE card marked Class 6 (and confirmed as fake by Kingston USA). I was lucky and got my money back when the seller was confronted (and is still selling these on eBay). The photo below is a FAKE card. Kingston's 32G is a class 4. Lexar's 32G is a class 10. The Lexar IS faster writing at 8-10mb while the Kingston writes at about 4mb; I have both Kingston and Lexar 32G.
NewEgg is a licensed reseller, you can get a nice 32GB card under $100 with a USB flash reader for it such as Kingston's MRG2+SDC4/32GB. I keep the usb reader on my keychain. You need a reader because these cards are NOT compatible with most older slot readers even when you put them in an adaptor for SD or M-Stick.
NEVER FORMAT IN WINDOWS!!!!! You may ruin the card's usefulness forever.
Windows will add cryptographic junk which is NOT compatible with Android. If you MUST format in windows go to the SD Consortium and get their format software http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
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Kingston has 32gb Sdhc micro cards, they are new.
the estimated price is around 110 dollars.
If you buy a card for 20 bucks at ebay you realy wonder why its a fake?
Lexar offers a 32gig class 10 with card reader on its website.
im gonna buy mine in a store not at ebay. Quality->Price
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32 GB
Well i got a 32GB Kingston Micro SDHC card from Singapore for about 120 Sing $ (4200 Indian Rupees). In India same card was not available and even the places i inquired they were asking around 10,000 Indian rupees..
Hey what do you guys think? I can get a either a 16GB Class 10, or a 32GB class 4 for the same price. Does a class 10 really make much difference on a phone? If this was for my DSLR Camera it'd be different. So just curious what everyone's thoughts are. Thanks In Advance!
P.S. The Price is $60. However I work at Best Buy and know i get a discount im just not sure what it is yet...
I was wondering the same thing?
I would think the class 4 32gb would be fine with the Evo 3D, but i could be wrong
What brands? Not all brands are the same.
I just purchased a Sandisk 32GB class 4. I mainly use my storage for music/pics.
I use a Sandisk 32gb class 2 I believe, it may be a class 4. Used it in my Evo4G and now my 3D. I run most of my apps and games off of it, never had an issue. Never any lag, just as fast as a class 6 I used by some off brand. Sandisk is known for having speeds faster then what they are rated, alot of no-name brands are just the opposite though.
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Kingston 16GB class 10 for about $55
Kingston 32GB Class 4 for about $50
PNY 16GB Class 10 for about $30
16GB Class 4
I just went through this same thing.... The card that came with the phone was class 4. I downloaded SD Tools from the market and did a speed test. My goal was to ensure that whatever card I got had at least the same read/write speeds as the stock card.
Out of 3 tests on the stock class 4 card the highest results were 7.0MB/s write and 16.9MB/s read.
I went to Frys and bought a 16GB class 4 card (I think it is WINTEC, but will double check) for $19.99. Figured I could return it if the speeds weren't up to par.
Out of 3 tests with this class 4 card, all came back with 11.0MB/s write and 19.2MB/s read.
I decided to go with 16GB first to see if I would really fill it up. Sure, I would love 32GB of storage but when do I really need ALL my music on my phone at one time and how many movies do I really need on hand? I figure I will still use my PC as the ultimate storage device and then sync down about 4GB of music and maybe 3-4 movies at a time... still leaving room for some camera pics. If I find I am running out of space I will then upgrade to a 32GB card.
Hope this helps!
I ordered the Lexar 32GB class 10 microSDHC from tigerdirect today - $55 (approx $6 for shipping *and* tax) today. It retails around $90 at amazon
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=186367&CatId=7071
Only problem is that it is expected to ship in late August... hope they don't cancel it by then
I'm using sandisk 16g class 2 card that come with my Droid X. I do get lag sometimes playing 1080p vids, although rare.. If I don't skip around a lot then no problems at all. I don't consider it a nuisance enough to throw away any class 2 cards but enough to make class 4 my new min requirement.
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like I told my gf, 'you can have size and speed'
16 / class 10. If you need more... Go delete something.
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I am looking for a micro SD card for my Asus either 16 or 32gb. Any suggestions? Class, brand where to purchase at decent price? I appreciate any info and thanks.
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I have the Adata 16GB Class 10 from newegg. Works really well.
i got a 16gb sandisk from amazon...pretty cheap.... im sure its a generic one but never had a problem with generics
I've used the 16gb class 10 Wintec Filemate. I tested it with hw2test (forgot the exact name), and it turned up 12 mb/s writing and nearly 20 mb/s reading. So it's definitely a class 10 and performs higher than its class actually. It's worked well for the past year, and is generally around 25-30 bucks on Amazon.
Try checking out Amazon's prices, they're usually pretty good. You can get a 16GB card for as low as $16 and a 32gb starting around $40. I usually stick with Sandisk; haven't had a problem yet. They're usually a bit more, but the reviews tend to be high. I went with a 32gb-- class 4 to keep the price down-- but I think I'm gonna go with an Ultra model (15 mb/s) when I get a 32GB SD card for the dock. I have one in 2GB and side by side, it's like tortoises (not the fast ones on youtube) and hares. And with recent price drops, it'll be cheaper!
I appreciate the replies. Is there a major difference between a class 10 and a class 4?
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I have the Adata 16GB Class 10 from newegg. Works really well.
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Could you please provide inputs on the speed you achieve using a C10 on the TF? (File transfer, app launches, etc?)
I got a 32G Class 4 Sandisk off Amazon for ~$50. Works great. Sustained write is somewhere around 6 MB/sec.
I got a 32GB SanDisk class 10 for $35 bucks on ebay a couple months back.
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I got a 32GB SanDisk class 10 for $35 bucks on ebay a couple months back.
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You might want to check you are actually getting the full 32gb capacity on that card. There are a lot of fakes on Ebay that show up in Windows etc as the size stated but if you actually try to copy that amount to the card it fails.
Ive had great luck with both my aData and Sandisk 32gig cards. One is a class 2 and one is a class 4.
One thing to note with classing of cards is pretty much any card will be fast enough to operate with the TF. Playing videos and holding data for programs. The Class only refers to write speed, so its how fast you can put data on the card. This will primarily come into play when copying large files to the card. If you arent worried about that as much then you could save some money passing on higher classed cards.
i have adata 32gb class 10 my speed are below
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Could you please provide inputs on the speed you achieve using a C10 on the TF? (File transfer, app launches, etc?)
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Using TeraCopy to copy a big movie file to the Adata class 10, I got a constant speed of 16MB/s. Reading is a little bit slower, around 14-15MB/s.
Does the microSD SDHC TF Memory work with the transformer or would only the regular microSD without the HC work?
Can someone link me to a decently priced 16gb one on ebay?
Thanks
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Does the microSD SDHC TF Memory work with the transformer or would only the regular microSD without the HC work?
Can someone link me to a decently priced 16gb one on ebay?
Thanks
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All SD cards above 4 GB are SDHC. SDHC reader is backward compatible with the standard SD card. (without HC).
ebay are full of fake memory card. Stay away.
Thank you so much tengtengvn .... guess I'll just pay a lil more and get one directly from a store
Looking to upgrade the stock 8gb SD card to a 32GB SD Card. Anyone have suggestions as to which would be the best card? Anyone done this already?
Btw, would 64GB SD cards work? TIA.
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Looking to upgrade the stock 8gb SD card to a 32GB SD Card. Anyone have suggestions as to which would be the best card? Anyone done this already?
Btw, would 64GB SD cards work? TIA.
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Very good article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
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Looking to upgrade the stock 8gb SD card to a 32GB SD Card. Anyone have suggestions as to which would be the best card?
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From what I've heard and have had experience with, Sandisk is the best. Get a class 10 and you'll be golden!
I'm actually waiting for Samsung's new microSDHC cards...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/30/samsung-announces-32gb-microsd-card-capable-of-12mbps-write-spee/
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I'm actually waiting for Samsung's new microSDHC cards...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/30/samsung-announces-32gb-microsd-card-capable-of-12mbps-write-spee/
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Expensive? Not sure I could justify shelling out $100+
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Expensive? Not sure I could justify shelling out $100+
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If course it will be expensive.
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My PNY 32gb class 10 has done amazing for me, very solid memory in any form ive seen
Don't buy a 64GB card, it is not supported. Max is 32GB.
i found this, SanDisk® Mobile Ultra™ Available in 4 GB, 8 GB 16 GB, and 32 GB, it said Up to 30 MB/sec read speed http://www.sandisk.com/misc/HD do you think this microsd work in our mobile phone. sorry for my english
I got a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 from Amazon. Works fine.
In my opinion, unless you are doing a lot of writing to the SD, the write speed (as reflected in the class number) is not that important.
I heard a lot of reports saying the 32gb is a problem 32gb just doesn't play well with this phone (Droid X2). The 16gb is the sweet spot I believe.
Picked up the PNY 16gb Class 10 at Amazon before Christmas for $19.99.All the playback problem's, skipping, speed have all gone this card has been flawless.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322229721&sr=1-1
But That's Just My Opinion. I Could Be Wrong.
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I heard a lot of reports saying the 32gb is a problem 32gb just doesn't play well with this phone (Droid X2). The 16gb is the sweet spot I believe.
Picked up the PNY 16gb Class 10 at Amazon before Christmas for $19.99.All the playback problem's, skipping, speed have all gone this card has been flawless.
But That's Just My Opinion. I Could Be Wrong.
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I use a 32gb sd in my droid x2, not having any problems so far. it might be because im on CM7 though. In any case, i haven't noticed any difference in day to day operations with different class cards.
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8 months later and my PNY 32gb c10 is still going perfectly, not one issue ever.
from my X2 roaming the north
My PNY 16gb Class 10 still going strong.
Its a real bargain now @ $15.95 I Payed $19.99.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322229721&sr=1-1
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My PNY 16gb Class 10 still going strong.
Its a real bargain now @ $15.95 I Payed $19.99.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322229721&sr=1-1
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Do you take many pics and video, and do you save them directly to the sd card?
Others seem to have issue with 32gb/ class 10, like photos just disappearing
sd_shadow,
Sorry for not responding sooner life's been crazy
lately. I do take pics and video & save them to the ext
SD card. I don't have any issue's with music, video playback
or photos like I had with stock 8 gb card. I purchased this 16gb
class 10 for the same reason's you said about 32gb card.
I had heard the same about 32gb sd cards & Droid X2.
PS card price went up is a little higher today $17.05 still a
good buy.
Get a 32gb sandisk class 10. 64gb not supported by X2
Sent from your Girlfriends Droid X2 on Cyanogen 7!
All of the chips inside the cards are all made by Samsung, so its really a matter of how you treat your cards and the speed you want. For light use like music and photos, you won't notice the difference between class 6 and 10, if you often copy large video files or massive file syncs, then go for 10
Now I can't decide if I want a 16gb or 32gb. I don't want my card to lose pictures.
Hello there, i've been thinking of buying a new SD card and dont know which one is the best? I need 32 Gb and that it would be fast.
Thank you for your answers
Got this via NewEgg PNY 32GB Micro SDHC Class 10 w/adapter for $39.99 +tax(CA) + ship
Item=N82E16820178401
Its rated a Class 10 so its faster than the stock Class 4 card, this should speed up things on your Evo 3D as it did mine.
I actually have the same card you where talking about. My buddy got the same card as you did. Reason I choose to get this one is because your card while claims to be 10 is actually a multipurpose card kinda. My card while has 4 on it is specifically designed for smartphones only. The cards are actually bout same price. Put both packages in your hand at best buy you will see. Btw my card gets about 2MPS higher score than my buddy on sd test. Both our cards are almost double SanDisk. PNY makes a nice card but pricey.....
EVO 3D
I have a Transcend 32GB class 4 in my Evo 3D. I've had it for a few months now and never had any problems with it. I think it was $25 or so at Amazon.
flexdroid said:
Got this via NewEgg PNY 32GB Micro SDHC Class 10 w/adapter for $39.99 +tax(CA) + ship
Item=N82E16820178401
Its rated a Class 10 so its faster than the stock Class 4 card, this should speed up things on your Evo 3D as it did mine.
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Newegg and PNY own. I have this same card and it works excellent.
Any issues with the 32g card? I know there was with the og
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Don't buy a cheap memory card, go for the best, Samsung just reinvented my card, class 10 (full speed ) 32gig micro sdhc, Amazon.com guarantees originality
So, what is the best? I have 2 options to choose from, a micro SD class 10 or a micro SD UHS-I? Both are from Adata and 32 gb.
Staked said:
I have a Transcend 32GB class 4 in my Evo 3D. I've had it for a few months now and never had any problems with it. I think it was $25 or so at Amazon.
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Just ordered a class 10 from the transcend site for $53.40. Everyone should order what they are comfortable with . I haven't had any problems with Transcend ever.
PNY class 10... best out there and great price. don't go cheap on your SD cards. stick with big names like sandisk and PNY and look for good deals out of those two.
I hope its ok if I ask in this thread 3 weeks after the last post.
Which one of the three class 10 cards would you get:
Transcend TS32GUSDC10 33€
Samsung MB-MSBGA/EU 34,30€
Lexar LSDMI32GBSBEUR 35€ with USB Adapter
It is quite hard to find reliable read/write speeds with small blocks. I did not find any especially bad reviews, so if no one objects i will get the Transcend i think.
Why not a sandisk mobile ultra uhs-i class 6 enabled card?
Afaik the Evo 3d cant utilise the enhanced clock (= io) speed of uhs cards.
I also got the PYN 32gb class 10. I got it locally and I knew I could have gotten it cheaper online but I needed the card.
It had an instant rebate si I couldn't use my military discount which sucks, they should add both lol
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Got the transcend myself. Works great.
Found the PNY 32gb class 10 micro sd card here at J&R for $37.99+free shipping. Since I do not have 10 posts yet I can't post link, you can pm me for link if you want.
found this guy....it has A LOT of amazing reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...0AD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331878288&sr=8-1