Hi guys,
This is basically just a thread about trying to find out what ROM everyone is using and what's most suitable for my new G-Tablet.
I understand the first thing I should do is install ClockworkMod, then install a ROM.
My other question is - is pershoot's kernel a major performance increase?
Also, just to clarify - VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition does not play movies very well, correct?
however, VEGAn-TAB BETA 5.1.1 does as it has supported hardware acceleration?
My main use will be web browsing and possibly movies.
Your feedback would be appreciated
I got my tablet last weekend, i have flashed Vegan Gingerbread Ed. and loaded pershoots OC kernel. I can still play video on YouTube, etc. with rockplayer lite. I would suggest thinking about Ginger ed since they are currently working on the hardware acceleration for Ginger ed, however who knows when it will be released. If you are going to watch movies right away, i would perhaps do 5.1.1.
My suggestion would be flash GB, get that working, see what you thing, and then flash back to 5.1.1 if you want the video. Reason i say this is it sounds like you need to do some extra steps (like partitioning your device) for GB, so if you can get that running, and then flash back to 5.1.1, when hardware acceleration comes out for GB edition you should be able to do a simple flash to get it loaded instead of having to partition etc.
NeoKjames said:
Hi guys,
This is basically just a thread about trying to find out what ROM everyone is using and what's most suitable for my new G-Tablet.
I understand the first thing I should do is install ClockworkMod, then install a ROM.
My other question is - is pershoot's kernel a major performance increase?
Also, just to clarify - VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition does not play movies very well, correct?
however, VEGAn-TAB BETA 5.1.1 does as it has supported hardware acceleration?
My main use will be web browsing and possibly movies.
Your feedback would be appreciated
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any GB rom won't play HD movies very well, but plays dvd encodes, and even HD that's been divxed down to a smaller resolution fairly well, depending on the encode used.
The pershoot OC kernel makes a big difference in performance. About 40% faster when oc'ed to 1.4 Ghz.
I'd go with the VEGANginger, dump the latest pershoot kernel on it, and see if the software decoding performance is sufficient for you. If not then you can always drop back to a froyo rom.
At least that was my plan, and I never bothered to drop back to a froyo,,,
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I got my wife a gtablet from a member from this forum.
It came with older version of G Harmony and some of the soft buttons weren't working. That's fine, wiped, wiped and wiped again and then installed the latest.
Now I'm noticing it's having problems with going into sleep and not waking up. (not all the time but often)
I did the do not sleep from the setting screen and still the same thing.
Now I need a rom that she can use daily without any issues with youtube and hulu working and all the videos working great.
Any suggestions? or did I get a dud?
Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
full wipe everything and vegan 5.1.1 oughtta set you straight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120
Has been my daily driver for a few months with no problems. No sleep issues and excellent battery life. Only issue is that alternate keyboards require a manual install (moving the apk file from one dir to another)
good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
goodintentions said:
Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
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I pretty new to this hobby. Having very good luck with:
Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo V6.
I'd start at goodintentions website:
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
and go from there.
Have fun...
Thanks just downloaded v6 from his site and going to lock horns now.
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what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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What he is talking about are keyboards that oyu can download from the market. They'll be different colors, different layouts, etc. One that I like has a voice and gesture input method.
on most roms, all that's needed to change the keyboard is to long tap on the text area, then activate the new keyboard. In Calkulin Clemysn, it's much different, as the stock keyboard is in the system files, and needs to be switched with the new one for it to work...
I personally have no issues with Calk's stock keyboard, so I haven't bothered changing it.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummie...2-04-replace-soft-keyboard-in-tnt-based-roms-
Here is a link to my how-to page to switch keyboards in TnT based froyo roms.
siptang said:
good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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Yeah ppcgeeks back in the diamond days, I still hang out there too
Vegan 5.1.1 is better because it's froyo and not GB.
Froyo has hardware acceleration and GB does not, so that's why I went with that. You can go RC17.0 but I don't really see what it has to offer over the 2.2 version and it's not as fast or snappy.
I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
dman918 said:
I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
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I used CM7.1 and it had a few quirks. The app drawer sometimes lagged while open, sometimes things lagged just a tiny bit. Overall it's a good ROM, but netflix was fubar.
I am currently on CM7.03, netflix works, a few bugs but not too bad, I can take the tradeoff.
Froyo is VERY snappy, no bugs for me, seems faster than a SGT actually. Video playback is awesome, and some HD games.
My personal favorite is CM7.03 for netflix and CM goodies.
Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
dman918 said:
Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
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there's no hardware acceleration in GB either.
So I tried both Calc's + kernel and vegan +pershoot kernel rom.
Both are very snappy and responsive but found cons with few.
Vegan rom with pershoot kernel has the slow to wake issue with me having to have to double click on the power button to turn on.
Calc's rom with clemsyn kernel is great but at low battery, it starts to crawl.
It doesn't feel like 1.2ghz but more like 300mhz and it was still near 50%.
Wifi takes forever to turn back on.
Any tweaks that you guys can recommend ?
Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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It crawls when I'm just browsing files from the app drawer.
On which rom does it have performance settings?
edit: found the answer to my previous question.
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC [email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
Later.
tsukaza said:
Gingerbread ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? There's a Gingerbread ROM with working HW acceleration now? Woot! Which one?
Hm. I feel I may be a little behind the times...
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To get things going, I don't really think I will be OC'ing. It looks like the Gingerbread ROM is stable and the latest release with all functionality. Do you agree? Any particular build, website, or videos you would recommend?
Thanks for the advice!
fre1102 said:
Wait, what? There's a Gingerbread ROM with working HW acceleration now? Woot! Which one?
Hm. I feel I may be a little behind the times...
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No there is none. He's mistaken
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB using XDA Forum App
wjones23 said:
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
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Here is a good website with info about current roms for the gtablet.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/rom.htm
My gtablet is on boot loader 1.1 so I can't tell you much about the new 1.2 roms. If for some reason your tablet is on boot loader 1.1 . This is my favorite rom that everything just works .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119888
I did replace the music program and the launcher. Here is a link to the vt launcher.
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/vt-labs/vtl-launcher/
Hope this helps. Enjoy
tsukaza said:
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC [email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
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Stand corrected, only Froyo ROMs support Hw acceleration.
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So, I don't get the feeling that anyone has a complete working ROM for Gingerbread or Honeycomb. Since I went ahead and ordered the gTablet, I will be researching further. Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2? I will be mainly using the tablet for internet surfing, FB, movies, YouTube, and , of course, the occasional Angry Birds.
Thanks Again,
WJones
wjones23 said:
So, I don't get the feeling that anyone has a complete working ROM for Gingerbread or Honeycomb. Since I went ahead and ordered the gTablet, I will be researching further. Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2? I will be mainly using the tablet for internet surfing, FB, movies, YouTube, and , of course, the occasional Angry Birds.
Thanks Again,
WJones
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Go with one of the Honeycomb roms. Just add Opera and Flash and you wont regreat it. Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down. Im currently using Honeycomb and now that Ive figured it out Im really liking it. Its got more eye candy then the Froyo rom.
I've tried alot of roms since I got my GTab in October. Currently running Flashback 7.1, a little trick to get into. I suggest trying a few.
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I've been running the Beasty 2.2.1 ROM and everything works. It's Froyo but I'm still quite happy with it.
Have it overclocked to 1.5Ghz and under voltaged. Stays cool and battery easily lasts a day or more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084573&highlight=beasty
wjones23 said:
I have read a lot of discussions on this site, but have not seen an answer to my question...so, here I go.
I am looking at getting a GTablet...with it on sale now for about $260, the price is really tempting. However, I have not read of a ROM that works COMPLETELY with all of the hardware. Either it "mostly" works, or crashes often, ect. Is there a ROM that works without issue (at least no more issues than the factory ROM)?
Confused?
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Same for me but I got an intersting anwser by a guy on XDA forum,
here is it .
This is the message:
Bonjour, Mikyreale!
I would recommend using VEGAN tab 7.0. It is the most stable and most complete Gingerbread operating system for the gTablet. If you want to use the latest operating system, but possibly not as stable, then use the Honeycomb-based gTabComb. I use it and have been very impressed with it.
Regarding gTabComb, I am using beta 3.3, and it has been quite stable so far with few reboots and force closes.
Regarding ClockworkMod (also known as CM), make sure you install version .8 and you can get that from here on xda-developers.
You can get either VEGAN Tab or gTabComb here on xda-developers as well.
I have videos on YouTube that show how to install ClockworkMod and VEGAN Tab. Search for user ehunyadi on YouTube.com.
Take care, and good luck!
Hope it will be good for you, My Gtab should arrive in a couple of days.
Miky
MechAniX.one said:
Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down.
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I'm using 5.1.1 and some times it's flakey (i.e. it's really sluggish if I install a bunch of apps until I reboot, and it needs the .nomedia fix) but overall it works well and I like how it looks/acts with VTL launcher. Gun Bros (Glu) is the only significant app that I can't use.
wjones23 said:
Can anyone give me some opinions on the best complete working ROM for Gen 1.2?
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Brilliant Corners; it's basically Vegan but newer and better, and on the 1.2 bootloader.
Just a couple notes on extra features/items that don't get much mention...
Wifi location: Only works on GB and HC roms
HD Video: Supposedly works on Froyo with full HW Acceleration, but full HW accel doesn't mean much if you can't even open the file. That is to say, so many videos need to be re-encoded to take advantage of the hw acceleration on the stock player, you might be better off just sticking with compressed 720p or 480p (there was a time not so long ago when DVD's were considered the best quality) content, which can play just fine on GB and HC.
Settings: ON many TnT derivatives, the settings app lacks several key controls. Swapping in the stock settings.apk can help to do things like install third party keyboards or access account and sync settings. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14566837&postcount=331.
Games: Popcap-Peggle and Plants vs Zombies. I have not found any kernel that plays these games consistently other than one specific one for Froyo:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128866 .
Usability: The handy little cursor location tab in GB and HC is hard to live without once you have used it.
Touch screen: I have found that it is most responsive to touch on honeycomb roms, for whatever reason.. Just anecdotal, nothing i really tested.
A note of personal preference: I have had my gtab for 6 months and still not found a ROM I am totally happy with. I am on a customized version of TnT at this point, and I am about as happy as I can be. I have developed a real affinity for the TnT status bar. I like that it is a little bigger, and easier to press the buttons on. It is easy enough to swap over the standard settings app when you need to use it, as long as you have root. The only thing lacking from my perspective is wifi location and that handy cursor.
Also this is a great thread. Maybe I only think so because I have never found that "perfect" rom. Keep the discussion going and maybe someone will put together a ROM that finally hits the nail on the head...
Personally I would go with vegan ROM the newest version which ever that one maybe, I right now am still on vegan tab Beta 5.1 and I haven't had a single force close or shut down yet.
ant667 said:
...and I haven't had a single force close or shut down yet.
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You must have very few apps
tsukaza said:
Here is the lay down
Stock ROM with OC [email protected] .......................working HW acceleration and camera
Enhanced Froyo ROM OC [email protected] HW acceleration and camera
Gingerbread ROM OC [email][email protected] HW acceleration and camera
CM7 ROM OC [email][email protected] have HW acceleration, working camera
Honeycomb ROM OC kerne[email protected] no HW acceleration, no camera
Take your pick, your Gtab should be on BL 1.2 already, do check the tablet status to be sure. Make sure you select ROM build for BL 1.2 if your gtab is BL 1.2 model.
I like VTL Launcher to use with non Honeycomb rom, so check it out. You can get it free in the XDA forum.
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I've got a g-tab from my friend and he wants me to flash a new ROM on it..
I see it appears that there isn't a "perfect" ROM that fully works. My question is simply which ROM is the most reliable/stable/fully featured?? I need the camera to work for sure.
I don't wanna try multiple different roms and would like someone to share their experience with the different roms and recommend me a ROM.
Thanks.
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MechAniX.one said:
Go with one of the Honeycomb roms. Just add Opera and Flash and you wont regreat it. Or you can go for the old stable work horse Vegan Tab 5.1.1. It never let me down. Im currently using Honeycomb and now that Ive figured it out Im really liking it. Its got more eye candy then the Froyo rom.
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Have you gotten Flash video to work on it?
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Have you gotten Flash video to work on it?
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would like to know this as well. i may be missing a step, but i've downloaded opera and the new version of flash and can't get this to work. (set the agent to desktop btw)
Until then, i'm sticking to froyo (Calk+Clem Combo V5) with VTL Launcher. The VTL Launcher gives me HC-like bells and whistles with the stability of Froyo.
gTabComb - camera app
Has anyone been able to fix the camera issue on this ROM?
I have build number GTabComb_b3.3_bl1.2
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I bought a gtab for my son back in January and, with the help of this forum, rooted it and installed the vegan-tab 5.1.1. Sin then it has been the perfect little tab for him (and me). Is it worth looking into the HC roms now available. I would have to upgrade the boot loader as well but it looks like there are plenty of helpfull instructions on the forum to help me with that. I guess the question is are the HC roms that much better than the nicely running Vegan-Tab we are using right now?
GooseCopVid said:
I bought a gtab for my son back in January and, with the help of this forum, rooted it and installed the vegan-tab 5.1.1. Sin then it has been the perfect little tab for him (and me). Is it worth looking into the HC roms now available. I would have to upgrade the boot loader as well but it looks like there are plenty of helpfull instructions on the forum to help me with that. I guess the question is are the HC roms that much better than the nicely running Vegan-Tab we are using right now?
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It's not even close. Once you install HC you'll wonder what took you so long.
Calk Clem V6 Overclocked to 1.5ghz is still the best daily driver imo. It's froyo based and is just too fast and stable for me to move on from.
GtabComb runs on either BL.
I've tried pretty much all of the roms available for the gtab. While I like the look and feel of the HC roms, I tend to go back to Froyo or Gingerbread as they are more stable and run properly. Check into apps that you want to run and whether Flash is important to you.
Flashlight is a new one for me as of tonight and seems fast without issue with any apps yet. Beastrom is one of my favorites.
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I like the HW acceleration in 2.2 but people over on Slate droid are making a HW accelerated HC port.
If you want a working camera and good general performance, then Calk Clem V6 Overclocked to 1.5ghz is a good choice, I run VEGanTAB 7.1 BL 1.2 Overclocked to 1.5ghz with working camera, latest ADW EX, Adobe flash and market. Both are super fast and UI similar to Froyo. I personally prefer the old UI over HC.
So I just got one of these things (10.1) , and its SLOW compared to my G2x! (I'm blaming the launcher for one...)
What's up with that? They run the same Tegra 2 chip! I can't play videos back on my Tab but the same videos work fine on my G2x... I'm running MX Video Player on both devices, and my Tab wont let me do hardware decoding, while my G2x does hardware decoding on the same videos...
Is it because I'm running a custom rom on my G2x vs just a root and stock rom and pershot kernel on the Tab?
What's going on here? I would expect the Tab to be able to decode the same video as my G2x.
Also related:
Anyone know how to get buttery smooth UI Performance on the Tab [especially with live wallpapers]? Are there any good alternative launchers for Honeycomb?
Unrelated:
Can you change the dock/quick Icons on the menu bar? (task manager, calendar, world clock, pen memo, calculator, music player).
First, do you have the latest "official" update? If you are under 3.1, it's a joke even compared to 3.2...
Second, you can't realy compare stock to custom roms, if you like custom roms, try the Task rom, pretty good!
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First, do you have the latest "official" update? If you are under 3.1, it's a joke even compared to 3.2...
Second, you can't realy compare stock to custom roms, if you like custom roms, try the Task rom, pretty good!
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Yep! I'm running 3.2. I had to update at least twice for some strange reason... once to 3.2, and one smaller update afterwards.
Do custom roms make that much of a difference? Even when just comparing video decoding?
I'll check that rom out! Thanks!
Probably not worlds apart between ROMs when it comes to video decoding, UI responsiveness yes but video playback less so.
Personally i either play downloaded TV episodes encoded in xvid in less than 720p or I'll play my own rips encoded in 720p specifically for the tab so I have no complaints about playback. I do understand however, the frustration people have about not being able to throw any file you currently have our may download onto these tabs and be able to play it smoothly. Comparing the tab to your LG phone is fruitless though as just because both may share tegra 2 cpus doesn't mean implementation is the same.
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It's because custom ROM's have specific kernel's that have governor's and I/o to set the phone straight. I would suggest clocking to 1.4GHZ and use pershoot's kernel.
I stand corrected. My impression has been that for the galaxy tab 10.1 there has basically been just two; stock and pershoot's. Then again, since i mainly only deal with my own model which has little or no developer support i could be wrong.
i just got my samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and tried a few flash facebook games through the internal web browser as well as with opera and maxthon and always get the same laggy and slow gameplay.
is there something i can do to fix this?
do i need to overclock/update something?
i sure wasnt expecting flash games to behave so badly.
please help
Depends what's your firmware and if you are on stock or kang. That information would help.
indeed sorry, totally skipped my mind.
i just bought it so i'm still with the official samsung stock rom and want to keep it that way, only install samsung updates.
my tablet is:
GT-P7510
android 3.2
kernel 2.6.36.3
and i have adobe flash player 11 installed
ps. cant wait for ICS :s
Ah well this helps, you can always install the Flash Player from the market if you haven't and mix it with Google Chrome on ICS, better yet the ICS (Beta builds) are really stable, their milestone 4 is their latest and most stable ICS firmware, except no camera (Due to the original driver's not released)
-ICS eat's up less RAM compared to HC's insane memory partioning
-ICS doesn't support flash but the Flash Player in the market still works on it
-You can clock to 1.4Ghz to ensure that the tablet run's at optimum performance
These are just a few thing's I thought I'd share that may change you're gaming method, besides, Chrome is probably the best browser on a smart device, in a nutshell
is there an easy noob friendly way to clock to 1.4ghz for the time being until we get the ics update?
nothing will help the flash games be better,im overclocked to 1.4 with flash and there all like that still.but to over clock you will need to root and install a kernal that supports overclocking like pershoots kernal. I wish the flash games would not be so laggy myself.
thanks for all the info..i guess i'm stuck regardless flashing to any rom in the flash games issue
i just hope it can be fixed in the future by official updates.
so far i'm not that much impressed on the 10.1 (maybe after the ics update its gonna look a different tablet) but its probably a good idea to pass this tablet to my wife and get an asus transformer hd for myself when it comes out
flash
ive used many roms and its same on all of them,im not sure but i think its a graphics issue maybe not good enough in tablet for games like that. Im sure ics will make the tablet much better.im happy with mine.being rooted and doing different things makes the tablet better for me.customization always helps.
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