Just as the title...
Can min Pro have double touch??
Thanks for answer...
from what I've read from previous threads, YES, it can, but not just yet.
THANKS...you give me faith...
try reading these thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848508
don't thank me thank the community for doing such great jobs.
cheer！
daultouch can work successfully now。
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Can anyone confirm Multi touch for x10 Mini NOT Pro
Saw the blog here.. Seems Xda team did it again. Is it supported on X10 mini as well?
nope. mini and mini pro have different hardware on MT so there should be a different script for the mini
jjdoctor said:
Can anyone confirm Multi touch for x10 Mini NOT Pro
Saw the blog here.. Seems Xda team did it again. Is it supported on X10 mini as well?
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sry... but only x10 big and Mini Pro support MT.... mini apparently only has single touch digitizer
riesan said:
sry... but only x10 big and Mini Pro support MT.... mini apparently only has single touch digitizer
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you mean X10 mini will never have MT? I think both have the same screens. Am I right?
I saw an article on endgadget but cant port links since my posts arent yet 10 but I will quote it
However, this one isn’t your usual run of the mill rumor. Our friend Michell over at se-blog did a little bit of research on his own. He managed to contact Synaptics, who are a supplier of touchscreen technologies and learned that the X10 mini sports a ClearPad 2000 solution, which means it supports dual touch, which is the basic form of multi-touch. It may not be available out of the box due to the device launching with Android 1.6 onboard, but it’ll certainly be enabled once the Android OS is updated.
Strangely, Synaptics is the supplier for only the X10 mini and not the X10 mini pro. Is it because Sony Ericsson thought that the mini would be crippled due to the lack of a physical keyboard and hence opted for the technology to provide a better experience? No idea. Sony Ericsson do have a knack of taking strange decisions, this one being another addition to the list.
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Actually the reverse is happening. Now I am seeing multitouch on X10 mini Pro but not X10 mini
jjdoctor said:
you mean X10 mini will never have MT? I think both have the same screens. Am I right?
I saw an article on endgadget but cant port links since my posts arent yet 10 but I will quote it
Actually the reverse is happening. Now I am seeing multitouch on X10 mini Pro but not X10 mini
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I'm sorry, you will never have MT , engadget its the worse gossip publisher, and no, Mini pro have different digitizer (CYP-CY8CTMA300), better than mini, better than even big X10, capable with multitouch, and no dualtouch like X10 (Clearpad2000), or single touch like mini (Clearpad1000).. sorry, but let it die!
D4rKn3sSyS said:
I'm sorry, you will never have MT , engadget its the worse gossip publisher, and no, Mini pro have different digitizer (CYP-CY8CTMA300), better than mini, better than even big X10, capable with multitouch, and no dualtouch like X10 (Clearpad2000), or single touch like mini (Clearpad1000).. sorry, but let it die!
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well that really disappoints me coz i ordered my xperia mini today. anyway i didnt like the pro. wanted a cute small set and i dont think multitouch is that important (grapes are sour)
jjdoctor said:
well that really disappoints me coz i ordered my xperia mini today. anyway i didnt like the pro. wanted a cute small set and i dont think multitouch is that important (grapes are sour)
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Then you should consider buying new mini/mini pro then...
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buy the 2nd gen of mini's. it is better. yet. XD
D4rKn3sSyS said:
I'm sorry, you will never have MT , engadget its the worse gossip publisher, and no, Mini pro have different digitizer (CYP-CY8CTMA300), better than mini, better than even big X10, capable with multitouch, and no dualtouch like X10 (Clearpad2000), or single touch like mini (Clearpad1000).. sorry, but let it die!
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better than even big x10，capable with multitouch， meanting that pro can have more than two finger touch ？？？
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? Why is Mini Pro capable of while Mini isn't?! I mean Mini relies only on its touchscreen whereas the Pro might even add functionality to some apps with the keyboard.
Anyone knows the answer why SE chose for that? (was mini released before the Pro i.e.? Or maybe loves the Pro more, like I do? ).
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I wonder, if there is a chance to port the multitouch to x10 mini.
I have flashed the "kernel.sin" provided by Bin4ry and the phone works like before. (single)Touch working normally. Maybe drivers are the same and there is only some missing library for the multitouch? Maybe it could be ported from X10 and insmoded to mini?
I'm pretty sure the phone use a different digitizer, there fore different drivers.
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Ok. So how can i check the type of this digitizer. What is in X10 and what in x10 mini? Interesting thing is, that i installed HTC sense from mini forum and my phone is on touch working and mini pro is not.
Dont know from where is that sense ported.
And how about that i flashed kernel from X10 and my phone still working?
wrong device subforum.
X10 MINI
search and find your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10756411#post10756411
Tehouster said:
wrong device subforum.
X10 MINI
search and find your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10756411#post10756411
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Thanks for trying to help me.
I am trying to get some answer from big X10 devs. Because these two phones are quite similar in some aspects.
Touch driver of x10mini is synaptics-rmi-ts, what is the driver of big X10?
Solved - the x10mini has synaptics clearpad 1000 series digitizer T1021A - no multitouch
- the x10mini pro has cypress truetouch digitizer CY8CTMA300E - all points multitouch
- but i still don´t know what is the digitizer in big X10. Is it clearpad 2000 series?
By the way, my last SE phone. I am really disappointed.
I've heard rumors and I've read blogs. It seems the X10 Mini Pro is capable of having MultiTouch, but what about the Mini?
Take this with a grain of salt but AFAIK the Mini's digitizer isn't capable of multitouch, which means you'd have to rewrite the entire driver in order to test if it's even possible, also AFAIK the Mini and the Pro have the same digitizer
Akath19 said:
Take this with a grain of salt but AFAIK the Mini's digitizer isn't capable of multitouch, which means you'd have to rewrite the entire driver in order to test if it's even possible, also AFAIK the Mini and the Pro have the same digitizer
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not true mini got clearpad 2000 not sure but mini have a single touch digitizer
and mini pro got cypress truetouch gen3 wich support 32 fingers i thought
and if you dont add double check in ramdisk for mini pro the touch will not work
mini only have 1 check
owain94 said:
not true mini got clearpad 2000 not sure but mini have a single touch digitizer
and mini pro got cypress truetouch gen3 wich support 32 fingers i thought
and if you dont add double check in ramdisk for mini pro the touch will not work
mini only have 1 check
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Sorry bro, but clearpad 2000 has always been DUAL touch. Look on synaptics's homepage http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad . Well, in that list it says 2100, but it's the same thing, the 2000 series have always been dual touch compatible. I know that it isn't as great as the pro's , but it's better than nothing. Someone should crack the ****ing bootloader already...
http://se-blog.com/2010/04/26/exclusive-x10-mini-supports-multi-touch/
In light of all the debate about the display on the X10, I decided to find a definitive answer myself. I went ahead and asked Synaptics, who’s a supplier of touchscreen technologies, and although I didn’t get the answer I was looking for, I got another rather interesting fact. Apparently, Synaptics is the supplier of the display on the X10 Mini and I’ve just been told that it’s a ClearPad 2000 solution, which means it supports dual touch – or in other words the basic sort of multi-touch. It doesn’t mean that it’ll be activated and supported out of the box – as the operating system won’t support it – but I’m pretty sure it’ll come in an update.
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And I dont think that there is a need to crack the bootloader.. In the mino pro-forum they are talking about unloading the current driver and load a multit touch-driver.
Let'ts hope it works... so we have a good chance to get dual touch
loger8 said:
Sorry bro, but clearpad 2000 has always been DUAL touch. Look on synaptics's homepage http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad . Well, in that list it says 2100, but it's the same thing, the 2000 series have always been dual touch compatible. I know that it isn't as great as the pro's , but it's better than nothing. Someone should crack the ****ing bootloader already...
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Thats really great news
I always thought mini single pro multi
Slade87 and i working on the multitouchh on pro
When we got it working if we will succeed
I can try to make it work onmini also i own both so i can test
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owain94 said:
Thats really great news
I always thought mini single pro multi
Slade87 and i working on the multitouchh on pro
When we got it working if we will succeed
I can try to make it work onmini also i own both so i can test
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Oh, very nice hoping for your success!
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which phone is good? which one do you use? i cant make a choise (
Mini pro if love emailing and texting..
Mini Pro by far, the type feature on the mini is very unsuitable for a small phone and the actual qwerty keyboard on my Mini Pro is perfect, its one of the reasons i did not buy HTC... They are roughly the same price anyway. I got a Mini for my brother first, I liked the Mini so much and really wanted to buy the Mini but then the Mini Pro just came out and opted to wait for the price drop of the Mini Pro, after 2-3 weeks i paid the same price for the Mini Pro as I did for the Mini I bought for my brother. I have acess to both phones and think the Mini Pro is a much better option, another plus side is that Mini Pro's screen also has the hardware to support multi-touch which we currently do not have but may well be cracked by Owain very soon!
PS. Mini Pro is perfect for emulators such as Nesoid, Snesoid as you can configure button inputs and do not have to rely on onscreen touch buttons which will not work on Mini anyway as it will not support the multi-touch.
Mini PRO. Size is almost the same, but the advantage of keyboard is great!
You can play a lot of games from gameboy or psx emulators much better with HW keyboard then the onscreen one..
is there big size difference between them?
not really they're both tiny phones. the pro is slightly heavier but worth the extra bulk
Another thing is that there are no... I don't know the exact word... You know... The thing that covers back the phone and is colorful and also covers the battery... The back cover! xP
There are no back covers for mini pro included when you buy it... That's the only thing that 'annoys' me... There is a variety on mini's box... But I would definetely suggest you buy a mini pro, I am able to type superfast and as the other guys said it's a BIG advantage having a keyboard for emulators and chatting.
And... You can't take the mini's battery off! On contrary, with mini pro, you can. Imagine your phone crashing, you would be in trouble.
Sorry for my dislexia and stupidity, but I just got up! xD
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which phone is good? which one do you use? i cant make a choise (
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x10 mini pro is a better choice. It has a hardware keyboard, which allows u type faster, more convenient. Besides, if u want to play games with emulator eg. snes, gameboid, GBCoid, PSX4Droid..., u cant play well with virtual pad since x10 mini doesn't has multitouch.
essentially i dont play games and dont type message generally.
Then if you are conserned about the money and don't care about inserting and ejecting the battery (something very important for me), then go on and buy a mini...
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Mini pro easly.
Doesnt need explonation
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If you care about money, I'd think that the different in prices between mini and mini pro is not too much. I suggest you mini pro. I don't see any advantage for mini besides color backcovers
in Turkiye the price difference mini and mini pro is 10 dollars. so i gave order mini pro
Nice, make sure you install CyanogenMod when you come to our world! ;-)
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but someone says there are some errors with that rom. reboot,battery,camera etc.
everything works fine for me flashing CM6 final and floyotweaks: battery is the same; camera/camcorder no problems; reboots fixed (people complaining probably have overclocked too high)
Anyway, any problems and you're sure to find a fix on the forum
The system is almost perfect... Of course better than the stock official. But if you don't like it, you can always go back to the official rom you had before you install it, simply with xRecovery. But to return, it must be the same version with the cyanogen version. For example, if you are on 2.1 and install cyanogen froyo (which is 2.2) you cannot go back to it.
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Mini pro beacause of the phisical keyboard and removable battery!
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but someone says there are some errors with that rom. reboot,battery,camera etc.
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No errors.... they need only to do a full clear installation of the 2.1up1 from PC Companion or SEUS, then clear the SD card...
Then install the ROM!
Maybe, at this point, that the phone reboot...
In this case reinstall .zip file and It will works!
Hey bro, i have the mini and i love it. But if i were you id wait until the new sony xperia pro comes out. Its a new version of the mini pro. It will be so much better than the mini and mini pro. And you will be able to unlock the bootloader through sony website so customisation will be better and easier. Anyway cheers, evilbarcode.
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Since it works on x10 mini pro, it will definetelly work on x10 mini.
Because they have very similar specs and even processor...
It SHOULD work,but anyone is doing anything?
Tried to flash dualtouch to my x10 mini, rooted successfull, error on flashing..
Nicholas7 said:
Since it works on x10 mini pro, it will definetelly work on x10 mini.
Because they have very similar specs and even processor...
It SHOULD work,but anyone is doing anything?
Tried to flash dualtouch to my x10 mini, rooted successfull, error on flashing..
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OMG, dont you freaking read ? about 10000000000 post saying this MINI WONT HAVE DUALTOUCH NEVER im sorry!, different digitizers, so different touch drivers... LET IT DIE!, no offends ofc..
GOD ****ING DAMN IT.
Now what to do?
Nicholas7 said:
GOD ****ING DAMN IT.
Now what to do?
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Buy a mini pro or a dualtouch/Mt capable devie
X10 mini pro is support cypress multitouch digitizers and X10 mini is not. However I saw one memeber release dualtouch on X8. Maybe you must buy X10 mini pro or Xperia mini pro in future. Then, youhave all ( dualtouch + android 2.3 + ect,.... and loss money hihi
glad i bought an x10 mini PRO than the mini. never thought about it to have MultiTouch i just liked the sliding mini qwerty phone.
What is the "fake dualtouch" some people have mentioned?
Is it ok to install x10 mini roms on x10 mini pro?? I mean is it going to work even without the qwerty keyboard etc???
Some do some dont best check info on rom before trying but let us know how you get on
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Is it ok to install x10 mini roms on x10 mini pro?? I mean is it going to work even without the qwerty keyboard etc???
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No, because of we have a different touch screen than minis, thats also why we have Multi-Touch and mini dont.
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No, because of we have a different touch screen than minis, thats also why we have Multi-Touch and mini dont.
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He asked for mini and mini pro, not for the X10.
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No, because of we have a different touch screen than minis, thats also why we have Multi-Touch and mini dont.
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X10 mini pro does not have multi touch. It has the same digitizer as X10 mini. It only supports fake dual touch.
Question ?
Hey guys, I' m quite new around here...
What about flashing a x10 mini pro rom in x10 mini. I am actually interested in slade's GinTonik rom, but I can't post in android development yet... x10 mini pro roms are much more than the x10 mini's!!
Thanks a lot.
simply no! until you customize it to make it work on our devics!
aren't there good roms for mini pro that you want to flash mini's rom?
try miniCM7 or GingerDX, two of the best and popular rom (maybe not best but best stability). I dont know why u want to use x10 mini pro roms... They are almost the same as x10mini roms..