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OK, so I am seeing all those tasty looking 32GB, 64 GB and larger solid state hard drives.
Is it conceptually feasible that the Athena could take one of these???
Think of the possibilities, the Athena could truly be a UMPC, much like the Sony UX series.
Keith Walker
Nope.. Sorry.. The HD in the Athena is a stripped down 1.8in drive so its actually a bit smaller. The 2nd gotcha is that the interface is not a standard connector, thus nothing else will work (For now).
that 32 gb ssd is about 2200 USD
if u really wanna put that on ur athean =x
not true boinger66... 32gb is only $549 for sandisk ssd
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-4872
It seems the smallest SSD's out there are 1.8 inch which are still too big for the Athena, whose hard drive is more like 1.0 inch(?).
FWIW, the connector is important too, and I beleive that the type of connector the Athena uses is identical to the type available on the new SSD's.
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.....and I beleive that the type of connector the Athena uses is identical to the type available on the new SSD's.
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Why do you believe that? Got any links to back it up?
if u want flash u have to go CF with a converter to connect thats it, unless you want to cut the caseing and tape the ssd on the back
WAIT i have the best idea to get flash memory it the x7500........................
insert this thing thats small it really mini like an SD card but mini
This thread details the connector, 'PATA ZIF':
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306239&page=3
Spec:
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/menuitem.92382478a130ca1492480021aac4f0a0/
Here is at least one 1.8 (won't fit) that has the same connector:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32322/135/
Let's hope that SSD's shrink down to Hitachi Microdrive dimensions, then we will have a true UMPC!
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not true boinger66... 32gb is only $549 for sandisk ssd
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-4872
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yea woops i was thinking about the one for computers =x
OK, if not 1.8 will a 1.3 HDD fit in the Athena???
http://www.gearlog.com/2007/12/samsung_to_show_worlds_first_1.php
Hopefully the CES show will lauch some tiny SSD drives. I could go for a flash based 1TB drive in the Athena, lol....
Even with a terabyte of solid-state, its still not a "UMPC", as UMPCs are known on the market today. Don't get me wrong, I love my Athena and I certainly think of it as a much more of an ultra-mobile PC than a proper "UMPC". Inputs, outputs, ability to run just about any utility app you could want, it has everything. The only thing it lacks is high-capacity storage like a true UMPC and I know that's the point you are making. For me that won't be an issue since 8GB (plus 8+GB on the SD card) is more than enough for a ton of tunes, several movies, and all the apps I'll ever use.
I don't mean to split hairs, but whoever comes out with a PDA sized device that place calls, get email and has an SSD over 64GB, will get my money.
What I do is to install all applications either in microdrive or the device. music and video files go to the storage cards. Because no application is on the storage card, I'm able to swap my storage cards like I would with dvd disks. This means I have the ability to have whatever amount of storage as I want. Currently with about 80 applications installed, i've used less than 10% of the available space on microdrive. I should never ever need all the 8gb of microdrive storage space. I do have at least 20gb of music files, and these go to the storage cards. If I select only the 5 star rated songs, all would fit into one 4gb storage card without problem. I'm now eyeing the 8 gb storage cards though.
In short, I don't feel there is a need to install bigger size SSD, although it would be nice if this can be done.
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In short, I don't feel there is a need to install bigger size SSD, although it would be nice if this can be done.
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I do wonder if there are limits to the ultimate storage capacity with WM6 architecture?
Limits being?:
Expansion card size
Hard drive upgrade
one major point i see in this upgrade even if its a minor size upgrade will be its durability.ive owned my wizard for 2 years and ive put it through so tough falls and what not.not saying thats gonna happen with my athena,but not having a problimatic microdrive would be a plus,big plus.
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It's the question around my head stopping me to click on the pre-order button.
I have a N1 and though struggling with the internal memory, can't see having more than maybe 1GB or 2 in apps. I get that with this i would install a lot more, but what, another 2 GB? Maybe even 4?. Maybe 4 more in Music. I guess i would put there some films or series to watch. Maybe add what... 4GB? 8? I have a spare 16GB SD card (for use with the dock, which would probably get the films or series) and probably will get a 16 or 32 microSD for the tablet itself. That would be, at least, 64Gb. If i get the 64Gb version, it would mean at least 96GB
Why getting then the 64GB? I'm serious, i would really like to know the reasons people are behind the 64gb version. It's not that i believe it's not necessary, it's that I'm probably missing something in the equation and i don't want to miss anything so i can make the right choice before regretting not buying the right one.
Because.... People can afford it?
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HD videos can get pretty dang big...10+ GB for 1080p (assuming bluray rip).
simple fact is HD video takes a lot of space. you put a few movies on at full res on the tablet, you'll soon see 64GB evaporate.
I have 32gb on my phone and am under constant pressure to swap things around because I don't have enough space.
I ordered the 64GB. Because I don't want any limitations and have to "worry" about if I have enough space.
And now when we have hardware that can handle high quality video 720p/1080p why don't use it. When you have gone HD you never want to go back to low resolution videos.
All movies/series I watch are 720p mkv.
4-7GB is one movie.
1-1.5GB is on serie episode
0.5-1GB is one game, and those will gets bigger now when they can be more advanced.
even apps will get bigger when they gets more advance.
So fast you will reached the 32GB mark.
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All depends on your usage.
I keep around 20 gigs worth of music on my phone plus constantly swap out TV shows.
I got the 64gb version coming AND a 64gb microSD for it as well... I could easily see myself using the 64gb internal to fill up with pics and videos from the (from what it sounds like) great camera on the thing and have the microSD holding lots of videos, movies, ROMS etc... hell im lookin forward to the 2 terabyte microSD's!!
Because.........why not?
So I can laugh and look down from my mountain top upon all the 32GB peons!!!!
for $100, why not?
32GB Micro SD is about 60-70$ right now, 220$ for a 64GB. I want AT LEAST 64GB right now so I can dump all my music on it and use it instead of killing my data plan with Google Music. I'll end up getting a micro SD for it (64GB when they're a little more affordable anyways) so I can maximize the storage space on this thing. Games are huge, videos are huge. This thing takes pictures and video... why the hell not. What's 100$? You'll be paying more for the dock, but not for double the storage space? I think it's worth it.
64GB of local space is getting bigger and bigger the later we go into the future...
Look at Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Google Music, Pandora, etc. and you will see a lot of that space is now useless.
But who cares? What if I want to go on a long road trip and I pack several Blu-rays on board or several giant games on? Maybe. Well, my 16GB TF101 still has about 10GB on it..... My 16GB iPhone 4 still has about 4GB on it... My 2.5TB HDD still has about 2TB left on it....
If you have $100 extra dollars to go down on this beatiful tab, go for it!
That have been a lot of answers for such a short time, thanks
I feel i'm convinced to go with the 64GB version, didn't know some games were so huge (with a N1 it's difficult to play anything not named angry birds ), and didn't remember the huge size of the HD files (sometimes i forget that because of the 2TB disk at the main pc, which never seem to end ). The main reason being, of course, laughing and looking down from the mountain to the 32GB peons
Now, time to wait, at least for christmas, for amazon.de to send it
HD videos...each clip can easily take gigs
Just because YOU use your devices a certain way does not mean everybody else should do the same as well. Some people have way more than 64gig of music. Some people have gigs of movies (I know I do). It's nice to copy a few 4gig+ movies over and not worry about left over space when I need the space later.
I have friends like this.. they say "16gb is fine for me, its all I need, why do you need a 64gb".. /facepalm
For many people, the 32GB model (supplemented by micro SD) is probably enough. But many is not all. Especially while travelling I do need A LOT more storage - I'd rather avoid having to use external storage or an SD card in the keyboard dock unless it's just for transferring photos from for example my digital camera. As a lot of commentators have mentioned, it's once you get into media storage especially video (but also to some extent music, photos, E-books, magazines/comics/PDFs and the like) that the 64GB model becomes advantageous. Basically, there is a lot of competing media requirements these days and I can only see that increasing. Cloud storage is not really an answer, as it's a solution for some of the issues but not others.
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Diversion said:
Just because YOU use your devices a certain way does not mean everybody else should do the same as well. Some people have way more than 64gig of music. Some people have gigs of movies (I know I do). It's nice to copy a few 4gig+ movies over and not worry about left over space when I need the space later.
I have friends like this.. they say "16gb is fine for me, its all I need, why do you need a 64gb".. /facepalm
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That's exactly why i asked it seriously, not in a "i don't need it, why you do?" fashion, but in a "i don't know if i would need it, tell me why you do and i will see if i do"
It's my first tablet, and my other android device is a nexus one with just ~ 180MB for apps + storage and microSD (4gb atm). That's why i prefer asking than just deciding on my own, as i already said, i might miss something and that's what i don't want And i asked it publicly because i might not be the only one with the doubt
Well, I deleted all my music from Transformer because of free space problem. 32GB would also be too little. 64GB + some SD/mSD would be OK though.
greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
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I cannot say whether or not it is worth it, because I have no experience with any other Android tablets besides the Nook, but I can confirm according to its website that is does have half the ram as well as half the storage. 8 GB storage and 512k ram.
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greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
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You may have noticed in the video that this forum is stricter than others. It's mainly to keep things from getting repeated and to save people time, though, and it works nicely that way. Developing is hard work. BTW, no one's head is gonna explode about this, but questions like this are probably best off in the Q&A section.
So, to answer your question, the RAM is halved, the storage is more readily accessible but also halved... is it worth the $50 dollars you save? Sure! It has the same specs and price of the Kindle fire, but with SD storage as well, and the Fire works just fine with 512 mb of RAM.
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its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
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No the RAM is indeed halved. All of the mainstream tech sites are reporting this, it's not a rumor.
As for partitioning, Nook Tabs are veeery picky about partition schemes,nso that's kinda dangerous. But the current alpha of CM7 gets you better access to the storage, and future releases are planned to allow full access.
my appolgies. tis a problem i usualy have figuring out which forum to post in, this seemed like the likely canidate since there were allready so many posts about the nook tablet 8gb. I will try to keep in mind that this is for tech questions only.
Thank-you very much for the feedback.
For $50 twice the ram and more storage (at least when you put CM7 on it). it seems easily worth it.
My opinion - definitely not worth it.
I got CM7 running on it, and I can see just how important it is.
You won't be running BN's ROM forever, and when you switch to CM7 (with CM9 coming soon, it seems), you really gonna wish you had that RAM, trust me.
I bought a NT last week on Ebay from B&N for $199. Not sure if they are still on sale, but you might check.
If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
Personally I'd shell out the extra few bucks for the RAM as well. If it were just the storage being reduced, I'd go with it, but the RAM is too important, imo.
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If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
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They're thinking that many consumers don't seem to know or care about the RAM (or other advantages of the Nook hardware), they just look at the price tag and $199 for the Fire beats $249. I hope it helps, though they've got a mountain to climb to overcome the Amazon ecosystem and Appstore.
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
If only I'd known this 2 days ago when I bought an 8GB version while being in the USA... Figured the 8GB less flash wasn't a big deal if you're using an SD card anyway, and not knowing about the RAM I "saved" some bucks. Now I'm back in Belgium with an 8GB Nook, with half the RAM too, and at the moment unable to run CM... Great
Anyway, I hope someone can get it to root and/or run CM soon!
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rootability (at least currently) also looks questionable
I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
They have figured out how to boot off an SD card for the 8G, now they are moving that over to the rooting SD versions and the recovery versions.
It will take a little bit of time but I think we will see a lot of progress in this next week.
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I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
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Lychii said:
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
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I actually agree very much with this. The Kindle Fire's also ahead in terms of custom ROMs since it's not locked up. I chose the Nook Tablet (16 GB version) because I could buy it from my school bookstore and also use it with textbooks from my school.
If you have to choose between 8GB Nook Tab and 16GB Nook Tab, go with the 16 GB one. But if you're choosing between an 8GB Nook Tab and a Kindle Fire, I'd go with the Fire.
RAM use vs storage??
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I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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Okay, this is a common misconception about computer storage vs. memory. They're not really the same thing, although the words used to describe them are very similar.
RAM/Memory = How much your computer can keep loaded up temporarily. Think of it as how much someone could be thinking about at once - RAM is important for a computer or device to be able to multi-task.
Storage/Disk space = How much information a computer can recall. Think of it as how much someone could remember.
Now, storage allows you to have more files on your device, but RAM allows your device to be more powerful and run more applications at once.
Wow... the specs on the Nexus 7 Tablet by Google (built by ASUS) are incredible. It comes with Jelly Bean (Android 4.1, successor to ICS). 1280x800 display. Quad-core CPU. I don't mean to be an ungrateful dic<, but the pace of development for the Nook Color Tablet just hasn't been as fast as I've enjoyed for all of the other Android devices I've owned (Motorola Droid-X; Samsung Droid Charge; Motorola Razr MAXX). The Nexus 7 is going to sell for $200.00. I think I'm going to see if Craigslist can turn my Nook into a hundred bux and I'll move to up to a device that is ready for primetime now.
No SD card slot = I don't give a **** about it.
Seriously, move on to another device if you want, no need to bring it in here.
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Wow... the specs on the Nexus 7 Tablet by Google (built by ASUS) are incredible. It comes with Jelly Bean (Android 4.1, successor to ICS). 1280x800 display. Quad-core CPU. I don't mean to be an ungrateful dic<, but the pace of development for the Nook Color Tablet just hasn't been as fast...
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Sadly, or happily, sounds like the Nexus 7 is the answer to a lot of Devs who wanted ICS on an awesome piece of cheap hardware. I know I'm thinking about diving in for one to play with.
No SD slot, though, that's a bummer.
I want to buy it so badly and sell my Nook.
But jesus christ the top/bottom bezels are atrocious. Not to mention it likely does not have an sdcard slot.
Welp.
Jelly Bean updates are cool though.
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but the pace of development for the Nook Color Tablet just hasn't been as fast as I've enjoyed for all of the other Android devices I've owned (Motorola Droid-X; Samsung Droid Charge; Motorola Razr MAXX).
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The device for this forum does not have color in its name. The Nook Color had tons of development for over a year and continues to have it. The Droid Charge had minimal development as it was not a very popular phone and the maxx....well its a locked motorola phone, yippee.
With that said, the minimal development you see here is the fault of B&N IMO. If they had released the 8GB model on launch, perhaps it would have been the Nook Tablet that was destroying the 7" market, and not the Kindle Fire. More owners generally means more development.
$50 means a lot more than better specs to the average consumer when you're talking about a cheap, 7" media consumption device.
Actually, it ships with Jelly Bean, not ICS.
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The device for this forum does not have color in its name.
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Eek! I posted in the wrong forum? Or maybe I'm too stupid to know the name of a device that I paid $249 for? Sheesh. Embarassed. :crying:
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No SD card slot = I don't give a **** about it.
Seriously, move on to another device if you want, no need to bring it in here.
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Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. Sorry. I wasn't trying to start a flameout over something as trivial as a tablet.
I used to feel the same way as you about the SD card slot. I never would have considered a tablet without one. However, I have never used the SD slot in my existing 16gb Nook Tablet. I (my kids, actually) only use it to play games and to stream video off of the family video library. I agree that having an SD card slot would be preferable. Case in point, my Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet has a micro SD slot, a full-size SD slot and a USB host port. I use the full-size SD slot all the time to display pics that I've just shot on my SLR. Having more and different ports is always a good thing, but lack of a slot won't be a dealbreaker for us given the way that my kids will use the device.
I would also expect that this would be much easier (if not stock) to have a functioning USB host, allowing you to mount USB drives which could almost make up for the lack of SD. Also I don't need to even go into the hardware. I do feel like the Nook is probably more solidly built. If I would have been buying a 7" tablet soon I would have definitely held off to see how this nexus tablet turns out. If for some reason development on the 3.0 kernel is at a stop I would probably do the same, but for now the Nook is working fine.
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I would also expect that this would be much easier (if not stock) to have a functioning USB host, allowing you to mount USB drives which could almost make up for the lack of SD. Also I don't need to even go into the hardware. I do feel like the Nook is probably more solidly built. If I would have been buying a 7" tablet soon I would have definitely held off to see how this nexus tablet turns out. If for some reason development on the 3.0 kernel is at a stop I would probably do the same, but for now the Nook is working fine.
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Keithn,
Is there a ROM for the Nook Tablet that is not in beta that you like? I bought my daughter this Nook. It supplants the two iPads and four iPod Touches that she and my other kids share. I haven't done much with the Nook other than to root it, install an alternate launcher, install Google Play, etc. It's ok for the kids to play games on and OK for streaming video the family NAS video library. But it still seems kind of kludgy. As near as I can tell, there's a CM9 Alpha being worked on and a CM7, which I think is a Beta. If there's any other ROM out there for the Nook, I'm not aware of it. For every phone I've owned, there's always been about dozen different ROMs available. Is there a ROM that you like? I'll probably buy the Nexus 7 regardless (because I'm ridiculous techslut), but I'll keep the Nook if I can improve it.
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No SD card slot = I don't give a **** about it.
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What he said.
SD slot is the dealbreaker, no matter how fast or thin or fancy the tablet is. I want the ability to add as much or as little content as I desire and not need to be near my computer to do it. Looks like a great device but without an SD card slot- it's no Nook killer.
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What he said.
SD slot is the dealbreaker, no matter how fast or thin or fancy the tablet is. I want the ability to add as much or as little content as I desire and not need to be near my computer to do it. Looks like a great device but without an SD card slot- it's no Nook killer.
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Do you not ever install content by WIFI? I use WIFI File Explorer all the time to move files back and forth from my Android devices. It's unclear to me how using an SD card to move data in/out of and Android device would be a better alternative to WIFI? I mean, even if you're not near your computer as you say, how are you going to get data (that is destined for the Nook) onto the SD card to begin with if you don't a computer nearby? And if it's data to be taken off the Nook, how does putting it on an SD card help until you're "near your computer." Confused. Not trying to be a smartass. Just confused.
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Keithn,
Is there a ROM for the Nook Tablet that is not in beta that you like? I bought my daughter this Nook. It supplants the two iPads and four iPod Touches that she and my other kids share. I haven't done much with the Nook other than to root it, install an alternate launcher, install Google Play, etc. It's ok for the kids to play games on and OK for streaming video the family NAS video library. But it still seems kind of kludgy. As near as I can tell, there's a CM9 Alpha being worked on and a CM7, which I think is a Beta. If there's any other ROM out there for the Nook, I'm not aware of it. For every phone I've owned, there's always been about dozen different ROMs available. Is there a ROM that you like? I'll probably buy the Nexus 7 regardless (because I'm ridiculous techslut), but I'll keep the Nook if I can improve it.
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I'm primarily on CM7, I'm not too set on whether it's deemed alpha, beta, or whatever. As long as every thing I use it for works I can always modify certain things to make it how I want with, themes, launchers, build.prop tweaks etc. I've tested the 3.0 kernel CM9 and as soon as it's more stable I'll be on that.
If you have never owned a Nexus device you wouldn't understand. I will never buy another non nexus phone, and after today (just put in my preorder) I will never buy another non nexus tablet. I with all the cloud services out there I have no use for expandable memory. The day jelly bean is released there will be several users pleading developers to port it to their devices. With a Nexus device you won't have that problem.
jimmysuggs said:
What he said.
SD slot is the dealbreaker, no matter how fast or thin or fancy the tablet is. I want the ability to add as much or as little content as I desire and not need to be near my computer to do it. Looks like a great device but without an SD card slot- it's no Nook killer.
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am i the first to mention there are two 'nexus 7's, a kindle ( nook too ) buster at $199 and then there is the improved model for fifty dollars more that has extra stuff. Hmm, what do you get for fifty bucks ?
An extra 8GB internal storage.
Cubanluke88 said:
An extra 8GB internal storage.
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Wow, that is an expensive bit of memory.
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Found a list :
Back-lit IPS display
Scratch-resistant Corning glass
1.2MP front-facing camera
WEIGHT 340 grams
8 or 16 GB internal storage
1 GB RAM
4325 mAh (Up to 8 hours of active use)
Quad-core Tegra 3 processor
12 Core GeForce GPU
198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth
Micro USB
Microphone
NFC (Android Beam)
Accelerometer
GPS
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Black or White color
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and no micro SD memory slot... No buttons... How is XDA going to crack it ?
I was waiting for a Nexus 7 announcement , because I like 7-inchers and because I'm sick and tired of CM7 phone UI layout( even with all tweaks it's still too phone-ish).
And what I see? Nexus 7 runs Jelly Bean with pure phone layout, though device is constantly called "tablet", WTF?
I'm there with ya! See ya nook! it's already listed on eBay! For a moment the SD card slot was in question, but with all the cloud storage and unlimited 4g data and tethering on my phone, I wont need the extra storage.
It's been a fun 6 months, but really I'm done with the hassle.
But I want to thank all the DEVs, for their hard work, and all you that i sent donations to. Keep working hard making this stuff better for everyone!!!
dalkor said:
I was waiting for a Nexus 7 announcement , because I like 7-inchers and because I'm sick and tired of CM7 phone UI layout( even with all tweaks it's still too phone-ish).
And what I see? Nexus 7 runs Jelly Bean with pure phone layout, though device is constantly called "tablet", WTF?
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I think that there's still a lot of confusion -- at least in my head -- about Jelly Bean and the Nexus 7. On one hand, I did read that the N-7 had a very phone-ish layout, but on the other hand, I read that JB is intended to be a tablet-only release. So I'm confused.
SoonerLater said:
Do you not ever install content by WIFI?
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Well wifi works great- if you're near your computer.
If not, wifi, she no work so good. For example if I'm taking a flight, or I dunno, leaving my house even slightly, I can't exactly sync anything up with the computer and transfer data via wifi.
But with SD cards, which are tiny and cheap as hell these days, I can just dump a bunch of content on there, stick the cards in my pocket and swap them in and out of the nook as I see fit. You fill one card up with movies, fill another one up with music, etc. Without the SD card slot, what you have on your tablet is all you're GONNA have on your tablet until you're back at your computer. With SD cards you have far more options. Yeah you have to be at your computer to fill the SD cards, but that's a lot quicker and easier than constantly adding trying to remove and add content via wifi.
Also, SD cards allow you to odd more onboard storage in general. I've got a lovely 32 gig card that I use with my Nook tablet, which holds so much that I rarely have to use other SD cards (though I like having that option). The Kindle and this new Nexus tablet top out at 16, which is pretty small these day. Dump a few movies and apps on there and boom- yer done. Now if they wanna sell a 100 gig version, then maaaaaaaaaaaaybe that'd work, but in the meantime the space they offer is just too limited. And this "cloud" stuff doesn't really help, because downloading big files takes a long time and who knows if yer even gonna be near a wifi source when you need something.
Bottom line: an SD card slot just adds more options. You may not ever need it- but it's sure nice to have it.
I deffinitely order this as soon as it comes available. The question is 16Gb or 32Gb. personally I think i will get the 16Gb model tho I know for a tablet, it's quite small. But 100$ more is a big factor here. Google has priced the 16Gb right, but the 32Gb is too expensive to my opinion.
well, google adds $50 for an additional 8gb across the nexus lineup, so it is pretty consistent.
I would go with 32GB. There is no microSD card slot and if games take more and more space nowadays - supporting 2560x1600 would raise their size even more. Unless you don't play on a tablet - then 16GB might be enough (consider though what you want to put on it - music, HD movies etc. all take space).
Magnesus said:
I would go with 32GB. There is no microSD card slot and if games take more and more space nowadays - supporting 2560x1600 would raise their size even more. Unless you don't play on a tablet - then 16GB might be enough (consider though what you want to put on it - music, HD movies etc. all take space).
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Aside from potentially selling more 32GB priced tablets, do you know any reason why they are starting to head away from SD mounted storage? I personally don't buy the "cloud" train of thought and I'm sure people want access to their own files. But is there any technical reasons that affect system performance? I've heard about decreased OS issues without having a mount, but not sure why they take away such a valued feature.
Was thinking about gambling on the 16GB for the sweet price but will most likely cave for the 32GB.
I prefer the 16gb one as i am sure that the price diff can easily get me an otg cable and a 500gb external harddisk...
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well, google adds $50 for an additional 8gb across the nexus lineup, so it is pretty consistent.
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Except for the Nexus 7. They have dumped the 8GB model. And the 32GB model is only $50 more than the 16GB model.
Charging $100 for 16GB more storage is very 2010. Seems unreasonable to still be charging such a premium these day. But everyone else is still doing it, so Google will too I guess.
I'd like 32GB, I usually run out of space on my 16GB tablets. But I can manage the space and get by. So that is what I'll get again.
Depends if I can find some sort of NFC SD device; if I can then definitely the 16gb; if I can't then probably ... The next asus transformer.
Yes extra $100 for extra 16 gb is big factor,
since i don't really play that much on a mobile device i'd go with 16gb. I use this thing at home so i can stream whatever the F. I want from my NAS. Even on my phone i don't even fill 6GB...
n7GU22 said:
Aside from potentially selling more 32GB priced tablets, do you know any reason why they are starting to head away from SD mounted storage? I personally don't buy the "cloud" train of thought and I'm sure people want access to their own files. But is there any technical reasons that affect system performance? I've heard about decreased OS issues without having a mount, but not sure why they take away such a valued feature.
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Google makes money with their digital content sale. THey want you to stream movies, music using their service (just like Amazon). So don't ever expect an SD card slot on a nexus device...
I haven't decided. $100 for 16Gb is a lot. If it were $50 I'd get the 32.
Blown 89 said:
I haven't decided. $100 for 16Gb is a lot. If it were $50 I'd get the 32.
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yes, that'd be awesome. What would piss me off is they probably release a 64Gb model later and replace the 16Gb with the 32Gb one... just like they did with the nexus 7.
For 100$ I can do lots of things: paying for its tax, shipping fee, accessories...
Already made the 16GB mistake with the Nexus 7 and it made a negative experience so I sold it. 32GB minimum while 64GB is preferred but disappointed that there's $100 premium going from 16 to 32GB versus $50 for Nexus 7.
Maybe whoever produces Google's flash gives them discounts on it after they've had X number of 16GB chips manufactured, making 32GB cheaper and 64GB more reasonable?
Or maybe it's just that Google builds up enough of a profit from the first batch and the customers bought into the ecosystem to sell the higher capacity ones at less profit. There has to be some business type reason.
Going to order the 32GB as with a few films you can quite easily fill 16GB
Games are getting bigger and bigger too so got to go for the 32 me thinks.
I'm buying the 32GB model as well. I never even got close to filling up 64GB on my iPad 3 (which I am selling now), but 16GB will probably not be enough for me as I like to copy movies to my device for viewing on the go.
I go for 32GB. My songs (14 GB) and apps (2-4 GBs) usually take up most of the space
I have a 16GB Nexus 7 though.....bigger is better
I have a 1TB portable hard drive so I am going for the 16 gig one. Movies I will either stream or throw on the hard drive, and I still have unlimited data on my phone so everywhere is wifi.
Depend on your need,in fact,16GB is enough