Hello,
i am thinking of either buying the Nook or the Viewsonic...
I know that i am in the Viewsonic section, but are there major problems with the Viewsonic?
Would you recommend it over the Nook Color?
Thanks!
Well i had the nook color before i bought the viewsonic but so far im really happy with my decision the nook color is really great tablet but so is this one basically its up to you ?
I have both. The Nook is really nice and stable with the Honeycomb ROM, but the screen is just too small for my daily use. The only other negative comment on the Nook, is that the audio level (speaker volume) is very low. Headphones are fine, but audio output using the speaker is not great.
My G-Tab is better for me, for everyday use, due to the larger screen, and faster processor. I'm running Vegan 5.11, which runs well, except for a few minor glitches. Hopefully, at some future date, Honeycomb will be ported to the G-Tab.
Bottom line, both are good devices, just a matter of personal preference as to which one will work best for you.
I have a g-tab and have only used a Nook for a few tens of minutes.
g-tab: excellent hardware speed, not so great screen, heavy-ish
nook: excellent screen, not so fast hardware, light-ish
If you're going to be mostly reading books with a few Android apps thrown in, it's the Nook hands down. If you're looking at action gaming, or remote access to your PC via remote desktop it's the g-tab.
Both have a good selection of alternate ROMS. IMO, they both need ROM replacement, although less now than six months ago. Excellent user communities for both.
Hard to go wrong, actually...
I have a g-tab and have only used a Nook for a few tens of minutes (so somewhat skewed experience).
That said...
g-tab: excellent hardware speed, not so great screen, heavy-ish
nook: excellent screen, not so fast hardware, light-ish
If you're going to be mostly reading books with a few Android apps thrown in, it's the Nook hands down. If you're looking at action gaming, or remote access to your PC via remote desktop it's the g-tab.
Both have a good selection of alternate ROMS. IMO, they both need ROM replacement, although less now than six months ago. Excellent user communities for both.
Hard to go wrong, actually...
Gtab has a serious speed advantage, and the nook's screen is beautiful. I would personally focus more on the size difference than specs (unless your looking to game or watch high res video). The size of the tablet will have the most dramatic effect on how you end up using it.
If you want to read in portrait mode the Gtab's viewing angles will disappoint. Landscape is tolerable, but not ideal.
Looking to incorporate your tablet into your keychain? Nook color has that hook.
Gtab is a piece of crap. I highly recommend either the nook or the ipad.
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Gtab is a piece of crap. I highly recommend either the nook or the ipad.
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That doesn't really have any justification behind it... Considering there are plenty of users that would completely disagree with you. I'm not sure you can go wrong buying a 10" tablet for $280.00. What is wrong with it that you classify it as crap? To be honest, the update to the 3588 version out of the box was pretty good. The only negative I had was that there isn't a native video conferencing app and not netflix support as of yet. If those two things are implemented, a tablet for $280.00 is a bargain. I have no other complaints in day to day use. It is stable and does what I want it to do. My brother just bought the iPad 2 and I agree it's pretty nice but he also paid $500.00 plus tax. To each their own.
I would recommend the nook color unless you find a good deal on the Gtab (sub $300). The screen on the Nook is fantastic and it is quite portable. The Gtab while powerful has some flaws, speakers, screen, and terrible CS from Viewsonic (see the threads in the general section).
The plus is that both of them have great support from XDA and are supported with CM7
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That doesn't really have any justification behind it... Considering there are plenty of users that would completely disagree with you. I'm not sure you can go wrong buying a 10" tablet for $280.00. What is wrong with it that you classify it as crap? To be honest, the update to the 3588 version out of the box was pretty good. The only negative I had was that there isn't a native video conferencing app and not netflix support as of yet. If those two things are implemented, a tablet for $280.00 is a bargain. I have no other complaints in day to day use. It is stable and does what I want it to do. My brother just bought the iPad 2 and I agree it's pretty nice but he also paid $500.00 plus tax. To each their own.
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Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Oh, I see.
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Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Nope, IMHO you are (in this specific incident) pushing away a potential customer.
The guy is just making a legitimate question and asking for feedback, I don't see any whining here, so if you don't feel the need to give him true feedback (perhaps because one might think that its listed all over the forum and reviewed to death online) then don't give him an unjustifiably negative one (at least without enough smilies) .
I just don't think the guy is in a situation that would make him see logic behind your "get an ipad" canned reply (not to mention it doesn't even apply to him).
basically for me is simple; if ipad or xoom were 250$ i would have bought them... but they are not worth it at that price...
I think i'm going for thr nook although kindle just slipped in the options...
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basically for me is simple; if ipad or xoom were 250$ i would have bought them... but they are not worth it at that price...
I think i'm going for thr nook although kindle just slipped in the options...
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I do own the two (nook and gtab), both are overclocked and running the same CM7 ROM.
I honestly think both have different usage scenarios, nook is incredibly more portable, screen more beautiful, the gtab is incredibly more powerful (more capable of running heavy and resource demanding applications and future ROMs) bigger screen though less portable but there is an undeniable screen real estate (that makes the difference).
GTab should only be considered if its below $300 all in (as mentioned earlier), nook has been as low as $200 (N&B ebay deal), currently $225 (refurbished).
Again it all depends on how you intend to use it.
GTab vs. Nook
Comes down to use. If you want an eReader which is a powerful tablet, get a nook and plan on putting a custom ROM on it (the latest update is better, but no match for a custom ROM and rooted device). If you want comfortable eReading, don't get a GTab - way too heavy.
If on the other hand you want a netbook replacement, get a GTab, case and bluetooth keyboard (still plan on the custom ROM).
Kindle got mentioned, not sure why but it implies you only really want an eReader. I have all three, and the Kindle has the best screen for reading books outside, the Nook the most beautiful screen and is fine inside but harder outside and the GTab (as noted above) is just not designed for that use.
All are good devices - we need a better idea of what you want from your device.
I had a nook but gave it to my wife and bought the gtab. No regrets at all. Its kinda heavy but with overclock now has more juice than my netbook. If you want an ereader that does some other stuff too, get a nook. If you want a true tablet for half the price of the competition, get the gtab. Also be ready to mod it out - I really was worried I had made a mistake at first. It took me about a week to get it all set up. Overclock and a keyboard replacement (thumbkeyboard) were key for me to make the tablet responsive enough.
I had a gtab (from Nov 10 - March 11) and sold it on Eby and got a nook color for $200 dollars. Gtab was fast and good.. except the weight and screen. I mostly used it for reading comics, playing games and web browsing. Holding it for over an hour caused pain to my wrist and the viewing angle was bad for gaming such as raging thunder, backbreaker, etc. The nook color screen is just great and the weight is very nice too. I installed Amazon appstore on it and running CM7 on SD card, it is definitely not as fast as Gtab but it is not bad, very useable and responsive. My son (5 years old ) loves the nook since it is very light and small, he can play with it all day.. and my wife can carry it on a subway to work too. very family oriented..
If you can get the nook for about $200, I will go for it. If you want a powerful android tablet, I would either get the Asus transformer (target has it onsale for $360 - preorder) - check out slickdeals.net.
I am keeping my nook and I am going to get a nice tablet soon (Galaxy tab 8.9 or G-slate or Asus Transformer)
Good luck..
I have both. I had wanted an android tablet and was going to get the xoom, but couldnt justify the high cost. After reading about the custom roms available for the nook, I picked it up. I loved it and still do. But I got a great deal on a Gtab and couldnt pass it up. Now I'm selling my nook color. Its still a great device (gorgeous screen), but I found that for me personally, a 7inch screen is too small for a true tablet experience. I also love the extra ports/speed of the gtab.
Like everyone is saying, it really depends on your usage. If you really want a nice ereader, with some very cool extras and a tablet-like experience, nook color hands down.
However, if you're like me and really wanted a tablet, and hoped the nook would fill that void, you'll most likely feel more satisfied with the gtab. Just make sure you get it for a good price. I would never in a million years pay the prices for the gtab that it used to sell for. But now that its sub 300 (with some people selling theirs for a lot less), I think its totally worth the cost.
Side note: I don't actually have a problem reading on the gtab like a couple of other people on here seem to be complaining about. The screen seems fine in portrait mode to me. Its great for reading comic books and not having to pan around (which became a little annoying on the nook). But I may just not be as sensitive as some
Side note: I don't actually have a problem reading on the gtab like a couple of other people on here seem to be complaining about. The screen seems fine in portrait mode to me. Its great for reading comic books and not having to pan around (which became a little annoying on the nook). But I may just not be as sensitive as some
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I've been reading books and new on the train.
Nook - No Camera or Mic
The one thing I forgot in my last post and is not covered in the thread is the lack of communications - you will not be using Skype, GTalk, etc, for anything other than text messaging if you go with the Nook.
GTab has a front facing camera and mic. - so if comm's is important, it's a no brainer.
So, have you ordered anything yet ?
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Hi,
I bought this Sony Tablet S last weekend with the idea that I would try it and return it. I also bought a Motorola Xoom with the same intentions. I wasn't really able to try the Tablet S because everytime I picked up the device in the store the anti-theft alarm would sound. The salesperson reluctantly admitted I could take it back if I didn't like it, I usually don't this kind of thing as I prefer to wait and buy online cheaper.
Anyways it's been a week. My heart was set on getting an Xoom, I like Motorola but the screen quality... I don't want one even though I found two used for $300 with accessories.
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
The things I like about it:
- Durable! I plan on having this in my bedroom, I can fall asleep with it in the bed and I highly doubt I'd break it. Same for carrying it around the house, it doesn't need any kind of case.
- The Shape. It is decent to hold and it really does work well at a table. The angle makes viewing and typing a lot better.
- It's a Sony. I like Sony, I just hope they actually support this device unlike that piece of junk Sony Dash I foolishly bought last year.
- The remote feature. It's not near as advanced as I would like but the software is "Version 1.0". I'm hoping it progresses and becomes more advanced with "activities". I don't mind the layout at all, I think the buttons look good. The one thing I find is that it could be faster in switching between devices.
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
- I like the charge system. I don't have a dock yet, it's ordered but I like the fact it just drops in and easily lifts out. I could see all the other tablets docks requiring more effort to align and slide in/out of their respective docks.
- The Sony tweaks to the Android OS. I like them, I just hope it's not a drawback... waiting for Sony each time a new version is available.
- The Sony games. I don't game much anymore but it's a welcome addition for me.
- The HD Remote. Man, I wish I waited six more months before buying my XBR-LX900. This years models seem to have a better integration with this tablet.
- I like the fact that it's user serviceable. The battery can be changed and a 3G/4G card can be inserted.
What I don't like:
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
- It's looks. At times I like the way it looks, at other times... I think it looks / feels cheap. But mind you, it's very durable the way it is. I wouldn't hesitate to allow a child to play with it.
- The price. Way over-priced for what it is! I suppose all tablets are though, but at least Motorola has style. I like the looks and feel of the Motorola build much better.
- Weight... it is a touch heavy even though this is suppose to be one of the lighter tablets. Just imagine in five years the tablets we will have?
- The charge cord. If you don't use a dock (which should come with it!!!) that charge cord is going to break.
- And again lastly.. this isn't really a knock on Sony but I honestly feel it's too early to spend this kind of money on this types of hardware. Tablets are in their infancy, none of them are worth what we are paying for them. Honestly I think most tablets really should be priced at $199 or $299 for what they are. $499 is just.... too much money for what it is.
Anyways for me, I've decided to keep the Tablet S even though I know I will regret it in six months. I need a new alarm clock, I'd like to be able to convienantly check things from my bedroom and I would like to experiment with Android... so here I am.
I see the Tablet S as having a long life with me for it's simple durability. I don't have to baby it, it'll serve well for what it is. A portable household browser / email device. I don't think of this Tablet as something you would take out with you. For that I will mostly likely get a second or third generation Motorola.
I am also a proud owner of the Sony Tablet. This review is very well said.. can't disagree.. you should post this review in sites like Amazon.
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So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
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This unfortunately is always the case with tech, once the Kal-El (quad core Tegras) come out you'll see price drops on the dual core ones. Doesnt mean your tablet is going to become useless though just you wont be state of the art anymore
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
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Really? I absolutely love reading on my S tab, the display is sharp and clear.
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
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I agree on this, wish the colors did pop a bit more something in between S tablet and Galaxy would have been nice. And yeah the thing I hate most is the charging connector, everytime I plug it in I feel like its going to break. Guess Ill have to buy a dock as well.
Yeah I agree, it's totally overpriced, the cost of the case is ridiculous too... but, that's Sony for ya.
I also have a wifi Xoom and think it's a piece of junk compared to the S, and most other HC tablets out there. It's laggy and the screen is so washed out and bland. The Sony S flips through screens so smoothly, gives a nice tablet experience.
Damn... my country still haven't release Sony Tablet S... ARGHH!!!.... my don't they just do global release...
Yeah Sony product is expensive but GOODD!!!
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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Dude. Enough with the jetsream already! Its all you talk about. No offense. But go get a jetstream, and post in their forums.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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The Jetstream blows.
What do you guys think of the Amazon Fire and Nook tablet? I've almost jumped on a Nook Color a couple times just cause of the price. I think both are priced to sell tons and probably are going to embarrass the "real" android tablets in terms of quantity sold.
I'm leaning towards the Nook Tablet just because of the better specs microphone(I love my voice search) and SD card. Also word on the street is that the bootloader and boot from SD is unchanged from the original Nook Color.
My only real worry about both of them is a lack of cameras, but I already have lots of cameras on my Evo 3D anyways.
Hi! The Fire looks really nice and amazon's ecosystem will probably be awesome. But without removable media/storage, custom roms are going to be a pain to load and test.
Im going for the fire because i have a ton of their "free app of the day" apps and their market actually has a decent selection. That and its $50 less.
Can they make telephone calls?
No, they are not made to make telephone calls. I'm sure you can probably get an app to use the Wifi to make calls but you can't load your SIM card and make phone calls with your cell #. There's always like Tango or Skype. You can probably use Groove IP with Google Voice to make calls.
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What do you guys think of the Amazon Fire and Nook tablet? I've almost jumped on a Nook Color a couple times just cause of the price. I think both are priced to sell tons and probably are going to embarrass the "real" android tablets in terms of quantity sold.
I'm leaning towards the Nook Tablet just because of the better specs microphone(I love my voice search) and SD card. Also word on the street is that the bootloader and boot from SD is unchanged from the original Nook Color.
My only real worry about both of them is a lack of cameras, but I already have lots of cameras on my Evo 3D anyways.
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Drew, you've answered pretty much every question yourself...
Get the Nook.
It'll CRUSH the Amazon tablet in the short run, the long run, and the whatever run.
The original NC has unparalleled dev support, and this one will be no different.
Bet your ass it'll have ICS ported for it ASAP.
(Install the Amazon Market on that Nook Tablet as soon as you have it rooted (so, like Day One....) and laugh every morning as you get ANOTHER 'Free App of the Day' from Amazon on your Nook.)
<<work in progress>>
I definitely want a tablet of some sort soon. I have a tablet PC that makes school a dream. If I can get a tablet that you can use an inductive stylus, or even a really amazing capacitive stylus I might be able to settle for that, but it would have to be pretty amazing to replace the PC. Then I would just get a PC laptop that is cheap I could completely replace the tablet PC. I honestly believe we are not too far off from seeing the Android and iPad tablets replace laptops if they continue to pack more power and the software replaces the laptops software.
The price of these tablets are so dirt cheap, the only thing that will keep them from expanding into what laptops are today is the types of software available for the tablets.
I will always prefer the tablet that has at least a ten inch screen. The 7 inch is too small. The evo 3D is an example of the power even micro architecture can accomplish, so moving from a 4.3 inch screen to 7 inch isn't enough to make me put down my evo for a few minutes to use the tablet. Now, a ten inch + screen would be different.
I 2nd the nook. It is only 50 more. And it is worth it.
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I definitely want a tablet of some sort soon. I have a tablet PC that makes school a dream. If I can get a tablet that you can use an inductive stylus, or even a really amazing capacitive stylus I might be able to settle for that, but it would have to be pretty amazing to replace the PC. Then I would just get a PC laptop that is cheap I could completely replace the tablet PC. I honestly believe we are not too far off from seeing the Android and iPad tablets replace laptops if they continue to pack more power and the software replaces the laptops software.
The price of these tablets are so dirt cheap, the only thing that will keep them from expanding into what laptops are today is the types of software available for the tablets.
I will always prefer the tablet that has at least a ten inch screen. The 7 inch is too small. The evo 3D is an example of the power even micro architecture can accomplish, so moving from a 4.3 inch screen to 7 inch isn't enough to make me put down my evo for a few minutes to use the tablet. Now, a ten inch + screen would be different.
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Meh i don't know about replacing laptops no cd drives yet which suck can't copy cds to the hard drive and max space is 64 gigs still not enough space I think. And no plug n play support really. I know some have usb but do they support external 3.0 3tb hdd?
I'd also take a bluray drive in it...
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You also get $25 off the Nook if you are a B&N member. If you aren't then you can get the membership for $25 and take advantage of all the deals. I just used 2x25% off coupons today + 10% extra with my membership. Very good deals.
Not worth it. 200 dollars ill just buy a HP touchpad for that price.
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You also get $25 off the Nook if you are a B&N member. If you aren't then you can get the membership for $25 and take advantage of all the deals. I just used 2x25% off coupons today + 10% extra with my membership. Very good deals.
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Thanks! Thats a added free(kinda) bonus if I get the Nook. How often do you get the coupons and does that 10% count towards ebooks or emagazines?
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Thanks! Thats a added free(kinda) bonus if I get the Nook. How often do you get the coupons and does that 10% count towards ebooks or emagazines?
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Around the holidays it seems like weekly, but during the off season it's a monthly thing. The lowest coupon I've ever gotten was 10% and the highest was 40% off. Then you get your member discount as well. So on the lowest side its 20% off.
I had the nook, it's a incredible little thing with a lot of bang for the buck. I still have my other tablets and all they are to me are web surfing/ebook extensions. The apps are on the iPad, the openness is in android, non of them fits a all in one item as a laptop/desktop. I'm waiting for windows to come out for these tablets and the new kal-el tablets. Transformer will be the first, unless it's rootable, I will skip it...and go else where. For you, the nook hands down will be a winner..price, performance and most important...developer support.
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I had the nook, it's a incredible little thing with a lot of bang for the buck. I still have my other tablets and all they are to me are web surfing/ebook extensions. The apps are on the iPad, the openness is in android, non of them fits a all in one item as a laptop/desktop. I'm waiting for windows to come out for these tablets and the new kal-el tablets. Transformer will be the first, unless it's rootable, I will skip it...and go else where. For you, the nook hands down will be a winner..price, performance and most important...developer support.
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Win 8 tablets are a while off, I do think they are going to be a real contender in the tablet wars.
The transformer prime is going to be sweet but at twice the price, and the larger size it would make more sense to just get a laptop. I already have two so a third would be a waste.
I think the $150-$250 price point is the sweet spot for tablets. Especially for something I'm going to carry around and could get easily get smashed.
BTW I'm talking about the new nook tablet, it sounded like you were referring to the old nook color. Which even though it was alright it really couldn't be as competitive as it needed. The new one is baddass enough to be really good.
Transformer Prime Champagne Gold impressions
Well, as karma has it, I was able to get a 32GB Champagne Gold Transformer Prime, with the dock, last Friday and played with it over the weekend.
I was worried about many of the problems people were reporting and I was slightly afraid when starting up the device, I did not want to see bad light bleeds or dead pixels and so on. While the tablet itself ended up being perfect, I was still hit with a crippling bug of the keyboard dock not being able to be used for typing at all.
I found it almost ironic that I ended up with a serious flaw like that. I really thought that forums give a wrong impression about ASUS quality control, but reality is that it really is very, very bad. It is almost like gambling, chance that you'll get a functioning device without flaws that will annoy you from the very beginning, are very low.
I'll get the device replaced and essentially add to the pile of devices that are being returned to ASUS. But that aside, here are my impressions about the tablet, since I did use the tablet without the keyboard quite a bit.
Champagne Gold is absolutely beautiful in real life. It is a really attractive looking device, it's not as 'white' as Apple's aluminum devices are and is so much better for it with the slight golden gue making it look less clinical. Pictures don't do it justice, Champagne Gold Transformer Prime is the best looking tablet I've held in my hands.
The build is also very sturdy. I am glad I did not go for one of the plastic built tablets of yesteryear as I really love the feel of the tablet when I hold it. It is slightly heavier than I expected but only because I've never used tablets this extensively before.
Of course this design has its drawbacks, such as very weak GPS, but I tend to use my phone for GPS due to assisted GPS from cell towers, which is just much quicker. As for WiFi issues, I did not notice any, but I also did not run any speed tests. I mostly make the tablet use my phone as source of internet and it didn't have any problems doing so.
The first bootup ran Honeycomb and I immediately noticed that it simply did not run smoothly despite quad-core processing power driving it. But I liked the screen and after wiping the screen properly, touch responsiveness was good.
A mere 15 minutes later the device had updated itself to Android 4.0 and I had no stutter or lag issues anymore when moving around the menus or using the browser.
The screen is really beautiful and bright with good contrast. And the external sound is better than I expected. I watched the new 30 Rock episode with girlfriend on a couch and it was a nice experience, much better than trying to hold a laptop comfortably while watching a show. MX video player works very well on Prime, I watched Boardwalk Empire on my way back home on a train and it is a great device for extended viewing. It is amazing how much more natural it feels to watch series or movies on a tablet device like this as opposed to laptop.
Most apps seem to run quite well on Prime. But Android has its drawbacks on tablets, a lot of really great looking games do not have HD versions, making them look less attractive on the screen. Some of my favorites such as truly amazing World of Goo and Cut the Rope worked well on Prime, but their beautiful art was stretched to full screen, making the games look less magical than they felt when I was playing them on my Galaxy Nexus phone (which has a similar resolution to Prime, but far smaller screen).
I tried to use my tablet as a netbook, but without working keyboard I coould not really give it as much of a go as I hoped. But browsing around in the internet was fast and smooth and I really like Android for a tablet OS.
Battery lasted less than I hoped, but I cannot say it was bad since I did not charge it enough times for it to live up to its full potential. But I did not have to charge it while I was using, so it did not cause any battery stress.
I also liked that ASUS does not enforce its things on the user. Majority of pre-installed apps can be disabled and ASUS own enhancements are good for the device. They did not add anything that felt like bloatware.
As for the screen, yes it is certainly a fingerprint magnet. It does not bother me until I start watching a movie or whatnot. Makes me feel like I should clean it up because it simply is dirty (even when hands are less oily and have recently been washed).
Is this the best tablet I have ever used? Not really, iPad 2 is still a better media and content consumption device and I find Prime a much less comfortable to use when held in portrait mode as opposed to iPad 2 (but of course widescreen videos are much better on Prime as a result). But I can really see how the keyboard dock can enhance the Prime experience enough for me to never consider iPad 3, even if it comes out with HD screen and even better battery life.
I should also make additional note about the keyboard dock. I don't find the build of the keyboard dock to be as good as I hoped, it angles up really awkwardly on the Prime when screen is lifted, the back hinge is basically the thing it starts 'resting' on and differently from the rubber it rests on in front of the dock, the back rests on plastic knob-thingies, which have less grip. So on a less sturdy surface or when typing, the device is prone to move a lot more than you'd expect.
To sum things up, ASUS did a good job at everything except quality control and body design for GPS. If it had 3G, better WiFi and functioning GPS I would easily grade it the best tablet ever, but right now I don't see iPad 2 being actually dethroned before the end of this year where Google's rumoured tablet and possibly another Transformer can really kick things up a notch.
2012 is the year of 4G and HD screens on tablets, but I must say I did not really think Prime needs a HD screen. It is not because it would not look more beautiful - it would and I can easily see pixels when reading the web on Prime - but I just think that Android market won't catch up to HD apps before 2013. Today most apps look stretched and the apps that don't, do not seem to need HD anyway.
But yes, a wonderful device, just make sure to not throw away the box and other items so you can quickly refund, since chance has it that it might come with a hardware flaw or two.
Nice well written review.
Got it exchanged and keyboard works now! By the way, those wishing to buy it in Estonia, it seems to be sold downtown in both Euronics and Klick stores. Can't be bought online yet and seems to be only the champagne gold 32gb model.
Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
I'm with you with the Champagne Gold color.
The photos online do not give justice to the Champagne Gold color as it is absolutely beautiful in real life.
The Gold hue does not overpower the Aluminum Color and has a rather subtle hint to it.
Excellent review. A good model for all to follow!
My "purplish" grey one is to arrive tomorrow....wish I could have ordered the champagne colour. I'll probably end up putting a skinomi skin on the back as I'm not really into the purple tones...plus, I heard the aluminum scratches easily.
i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
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I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
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can you post some pics?
Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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ASUS is selling 32GB Champagne Gold TF201's in Estonia, it's the EU version (tablet and dock in one). And it is also localized, with local adapter and US keyboard that has russian letters in the corner (we also have a large number of russians living here).
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+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
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It seems that ASUS did not just do a UK launch, it was an EU launch and a lot of tablets are being sold in various countries, often without advertisements. Here we have Champagne Gold one, sold 2-in-1, dock and tablet. I haven't seen Amethyst Grey being sold anywhere here (and we seem to have two chains selling TF201's without ads at the moment).
It just shows how little this tablet is really known outside these forums and tech world. People don't know about it. Stores don't even know that they have the hottest Android tablet on their shelves.
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Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
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Well, true, but it is worth a comparison simply because you would not own a Prime and an iPad 2 together, they overlap in functionality. I will still recommend iPad 2 to anyone who is not a tech person as I believe that today it is a better device for content consumption and don't believe Android will catch up in app-market with HD apps and experience at least until 2013.
I am really neutral in that opinion here, I own an Android 4.0 phone and tablet now, I love Android. But today iPad 2 is a better tablet for an average person even if you don't consider GPS, WiFi quality or 3G existence important.
I would not buy Android for my grandparents, if I had to choose I would buy them iPad 2.
But anyways, I love it. Those of us who know tech and prefer Android, this is a brilliant device if your device does not have issues resulted from bad quality control.
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Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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Thank you for the correction.
I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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Think you might struggle to use this as a laptop replacement - depending on what you use your laptop for.
Yes, it's called tethering - setting your phone up as a wifi hotspot then connecting your tablet to it. No bluetooth needed. However, some Prime users report issues with this since the ICS update.
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I've had the chance to use the keyboard dock for a while, as well as test out a variety of apps. Some apps are much better in HD on a tablet, this surprised me quite a bit. For example IMDB app is really good on tablet and gMail (and really, all Google apps) is very high quality.
Apps run quickly and without problems. I also haven't noticed any problems with the tablet I got for exchange, no dead pixels. There's faint backlight bleed near one corner but I can not notice it while using a tablet unless brightness setting is too high and screen itself full of black colors.
As for the keyboard. I really love that it is Android focused keyboard. The keys make sense and are intuitive. It really is the first time I've felt comfortable with a keyboard that is similar to old school Windows keyboards, while never making me feel like it is one of those 'modified' PC keyboards. The top row buttons are all very useful, there are no bloated keys.
At first I wished there was 'recent apps' key, but there isn't. Alt+Tab does exist, but since there is no Alt key on the left hand side of the keyboard, you have to use two hands for it (I always Alt+Tab with left hand on my PC). So that's a bit annoying.
Keyboard itself is comfortable to write on if you've used smaller netbooks before. It takes a short time getting used to since at first you expect keys to be further apart, but adjustment does not take long. Feel of the keys is really good and they are well built, I like that spacebar, while long, goes down on both sides if you only press on one side. While it seems simple and does not look as expensive as Macbook Air keyboard, it feels really well built.
The dock also protects the tablet really well. The keys are not elevated on the dock, so they don't touch or get close to tablet screen and leave marks of any kind on the screen in the long run (this happened with my nice Compaq netbook 311C that had a beautiful LED screen that just looked worn thanks to keyboard after a while). Dock is also separated from the tablet with little rubber knobs
The touchpad is basically pointless, I am not sure why it is even needed, but I like that it is there in case I ever would need it. Using screen touch is simply faster, since apps are usually built keeping that in mind. Touchpad is just slower in comparison. I did however find it helpful when writing a lot of text and needing to correct something. It is also great that you can turn the touchpad off so it doesn't activate by accident while you are typing.
Certain apps are also less-keyboard friendly. While typing is supported all around, certain apps are less friendly when it comes to common usability features such as tab key changing selected input field (like going from username to password). You cannot really use the tablet without resorting to touching the screen every now and then, but I must admit that it is better than I originally expected. I actually like having the keyboard on, since on-screen keyboard is really something I don't like to resort to.
I did notice that capacitive pens are not very good on Transformer Prime screen. I have cleaned the screen very well, but capacitive pens are not sensed unless brushing them more noticably against the screen. The pen is a high quality one originally built for iPad 2 by Bamboo, worlds leading company when it comes to graphic tablets. I guess the non-air-pad type capacitive pens would work better though.
For some other things that are not as perfect as they could be, there is a very tiny amount of lag in the system at times when using the keyboard. It is certainly not as responsive as a keyboard should be if you, say, played competitive first person shooter games. But it doesn't really annoy and some apps are better than others at it. This will possibly improve even further with newer Android or firmware updates since it is not a hardware issue at all.
One thing I can tell you though is that TF201 makes quite an impression. I've shown it to two friends and the dock really makes the tablet. It takes away one of the most uncomfortable things about tablets - typing on that awkward screen - as well as offers natural protection without needing a case to protect the screen. Two of my friends who played with it were very impressed. If there's an Android device to wow people who only really know about iPad, it is not good to show the tablet without the dock - since it is just too similar - but the dock helps it really set it apart.
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I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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When using it as a replacement for a netbook, the device works really well. But one has to keep in mind that it is a content-consumption device. You can draw sketches here or write essays, but it is really something that you should consider as a replacement for netbook if you mostly watch movies or surf the internet on your netbook. You are still faster with a netbook if you need to do more intensive work.
But pay attention that I said 'netbook', not laptop. Laptop is still a better device, if you don't have a desktop PC, then I suggest keeping laptop around, since at times it is simply needed to 'create' more than consume. You cannot develop on Android, really edit videos or photoshop pictures or do extensive office work.
When it comes to sharing the internet then yes, I have an unlimited data plan on my phone so I can easily tether my 3G connection. It is not as fast as tablet itself having a 3G, but it is still quite good. I don't stream videos on my tablet usually or if I do, I have a better WiFi connection somewhere. For on-the-go use, it works really well.
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
Why was this thread moved to 'accessories'?
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
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Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
Thanks
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Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
Thanks
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In the keyboard dock picture he attached you can see the actual Russian phonetic layout on the buttons, so it's not exactly the US dock, but like a US dock with Russian phonetic layout added to the buttons.
Hello everyone,
I'm undecided which of the two to buy, I would like your opinion as a true and sincere as possible.
Thank you.
What would be your main uses?
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Internet, read mail, read mail gmail,office,read books and pdf.
That is asus transformer prime^^
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smooth operation = ipad
random reboots/browser not responding/hair pulling going bald = asus prime
honest and sincere opinion
excelx said:
smooth operation = ipad
random reboots/browser not responding/hair pulling going bald = asus prime
honest and sincere opinion
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I have to agree (unfortunately)... As a android user from the start and with a healthy distaste for the apple company, I favor android phones, but the prime is sub par (at the moment). Both software (browsing is slow, buggy and frustrating and games often don't work) and hardware (the whole GPS fiasco, where is my dongle asus, been waiting for 36 days now).
If you want a completely locked down, non-customizable, tablet which only has 1 upside and that's the smoothness of it, then the IPad 3 would be fine.
If you want to change more than your wallpaper, and want to be able to do every day stuff on your tablet without burning your friggin fingers off (Yes, that's a reference to the burning hot IPad), while also being able to do.. pretty much everything else, then the Prime is perfect.
Oh, and the Prime also comes with a keyboard dock, looks better, has better software, the list never ends.
For these "browser problems" and whatnot, I've not had a single browser lockup in the time I've had my Prime. That's about 3 months so far. I don't use my GPS, so couldn't care less about that. And the WiFi is perfectly fine for what I need.
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Internet, read mail, read mail gmail,office,read books and pdf.
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Have you thought about an asus tf300?
Will do all that you require and is a bit cheaper as well!
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Have you thought about an asus tf300?
Will do all that you require and is a bit cheaper as well!
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TF300
= :
Bigger
Uglier look
Different feel
Heavier
Less Battery
The screen is nothing compared to the Prime :"$
You realize the irony in coming to a transformer prime forum and asking which we prefer? Of course were going to pick the prime.
For me, the prime is awesome. Love the keyboard, love the expandable memory, love the apps, overall i just love it.
For my sister, the ipad is best.
See its hard to tell you whats best for you if we dont know who you are... Let me put it this way.
My sister is not a geek, she is not really computer savvy (she deleted her drivers for her dvd drive by accident, who does that?)
My sister has an iPhone and love that it just works. When she sees my android and how i can install different versions of android on it and i can do all this geek stuff she invariabally says "but why would i ever need that, this works exactly how i need it to"
However
Recently she bought the TF301. She bought it because it can do things the iPad can't, mainly open websites that are heavy on flash and frames (for school), open PDF documents, and other such web stuff that the iPad just can't do.
She was surprised that there are the same apps, instagram, facebook, shazam, the works. expandable memory was a plus for her and shes really getting to like the docking keyboard with the usb port.
To me, its a hands down transformer for the win, however there are a couple counterarguments you might make
If you have a lot of apple things going on in your house they all work well together, seamlessly, with little hassle. If you open up iTunes and think "Hot damn, what a great bit of software!", apple may be for you. If you have a lot of money you want to throw down when you could get something comparably better for less, go with an iPad.
obviously, im bias. You have to make your own conclusion. Go to your bestbuy or whatever, play with an ipad, see how you like it. Find someone who has a prime or 300 on display, play with that too. If you cant decide, go with the less expensive option.
Hopefully this helped you make a decision. Good luck!
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TF300
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The screen is nothing compared to the Prime :"$
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lol, prime screen is a little brighter at max brightness. I never use it at max brightness and in direct light its not exactly excellent. I personally LIKE the feel of the plastic better, edges are not quite as sharp on the fingers. it IS thicker, not much more than a netbook, not quite as sexy as the prime, however it IS built better (more rubber boarder around the screen, more forgiving if you drop it and it lands on the corner, less chance the screen will break)
Overall, personally i think i like the feeling of the 300 over the prime, just wish it was a little lighter and maybe a little thinner.
Anyways, thought i'd throw that in there as someone who has actually held both tablets side by side. take it or leave it.
Transformer prime does not have the 3g.
I had to decide between those two a few months ago, too, and I finally chose the Transformer Prime. Mainly because of the great dock and the USB and HDMI ports. I haven't regretted my decision till yet, but it depends on your own main usage of the device, which ones the best to choose
pileot said:
You realize the irony in coming to a transformer prime forum and asking which we prefer? Of course were going to pick the prime.
For me, the prime is awesome. Love the keyboard, love the expandable memory, love the apps, overall i just love it.
For my sister, the ipad is best.
See its hard to tell you whats best for you if we dont know who you are... Let me put it this way.
My sister is not a geek, she is not really computer savvy (she deleted her drivers for her dvd drive by accident, who does that?)
My sister has an iPhone and love that it just works. When she sees my android and how i can install different versions of android on it and i can do all this geek stuff she invariabally says "but why would i ever need that, this works exactly how i need it to"
However
Recently she bought the TF301. She bought it because it can do things the iPad can't, mainly open websites that are heavy on flash and frames (for school), open PDF documents, and other such web stuff that the iPad just can't do.
She was surprised that there are the same apps, instagram, facebook, shazam, the works. expandable memory was a plus for her and shes really getting to like the docking keyboard with the usb port.
To me, its a hands down transformer for the win, however there are a couple counterarguments you might make
If you have a lot of apple things going on in your house they all work well together, seamlessly, with little hassle. If you open up iTunes and think "Hot damn, what a great bit of software!", apple may be for you. If you have a lot of money you want to throw down when you could get something comparably better for less, go with an iPad.
obviously, im bias. You have to make your own conclusion. Go to your bestbuy or whatever, play with an ipad, see how you like it. Find someone who has a prime or 300 on display, play with that too. If you cant decide, go with the less expensive option.
Hopefully this helped you make a decision. Good luck!
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lol, prime screen is a little brighter at max brightness. I never use it at max brightness and in direct light its not exactly excellent. I personally LIKE the feel of the plastic better, edges are not quite as sharp on the fingers. it IS thicker, not much more than a netbook, not quite as sexy as the prime, however it IS built better (more rubber boarder around the screen, more forgiving if you drop it and it lands on the corner, less chance the screen will break)
Overall, personally i think i like the feeling of the 300 over the prime, just wish it was a little lighter and maybe a little thinner.
Anyways, thought i'd throw that in there as someone who has actually held both tablets side by side. take it or leave it.
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What browser does she use?
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If you have to ask, then it's probably better for you to get the ipad.
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Haha, I pay $10 a month for unlimited data plan on my phone. I then tether to my prime.
3g or 4g on a tablet is unnecessary and is a waste of money, IMHO.
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Hello everyone,
I'm undecided which of the two to buy, I would like your opinion as a true and sincere as possible.
Thank you.
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Honestly this is the wrong forum to post your question in if you want an unbiased opinion of which device to buy. Having said that it comes down really to which operating system you prefer.
If you like iOS better, get an iPad. If you already own iOS devices and don't own any Android devices, get an iPad.
If you prefer Android, get the TF Prime. If you like things like widgets and live wallpapers, get a Prime. If you already own Android phones, get a Prime. If you don't like iTunes, get a Prime. If you think you want to use a keyboard with your tablet, get a Prime.
To my mind, the new iPad has an amazing screen. It really is nice to look at. But aside from the amazing screen it has nothing to offer that wasn't on the last two iPads. iOS is a grid of icons. Its not all that fun to use. However that is offset by the wide range of available apps.
I prefer the Prime, and I like the fact that once you buy an app you can use it across your devices without having to buy the "tablet version." However this is offset by the fact that there just aren't as many apps that take advantage of tablet sized screens. While this is improving, that improvement is happening relatively slowly especially since ICS hasn't made its way onto a meaningful number of Android devices yet.
But in the end,you'll just have to find your balls and make your own decision on which device to buy.
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Dolphin browser seems to be the general browser of choice. There are others but based on what i've experienced dolphin has more features and is overall rated very well.
Im a die hard Android guy, moderate on an Android forum, help support an Android dev team and HTC smartphones as a hobby. I had the iPad and iPad 2 and just got a transformer prime. The prime is a really nice tablet. I like it a lot for the purpose of.flashing custom software, tweaking, kidding, overclocking etc...
But if you just want a nice tablet to work out of the box with a clean and simple OS that does a hell of a job as things it was built for, get the iPad 3.
The iPad display and resolution is of much better quality to the naked eye at least compared to my prime. For reading and typing text the iPad and iPad 2 display was much nicer.
In my opinion the app store and iOS apps designed for the iPad is better than what they play store has to offer for tablets and I like the way the app store lays out clearly which apps are optimized for the iPad on the download button with a symbol.
If you will be gaming then the Tegra 3 in the prime and certain games will smoke the ipad head to head.
If you want to talk to someone who spent a couple of years on ipads and camped out at Best Buy for iPad 2s launch and just got a prime, shoot me a PM and id be glad to cover any specific questions.
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why are people still stuck on thinking the only difference between ips and super ips+ is only screen brightness? lmfao. in a nutshell, prime has a higher quality screen and the pictures are sharper and shows more details. better color representation. n actually prime screen is ALOT BRIGHTER. 300 is only 300 or 350 lumens Max. Prime is 650+lumens Max. that's basically twice as bright. not a little brighter..lol
do the research..Google ips and super ips+ the latter is a newer technology which brings a better display overall. even seen several 300 owners even say display not as good as prime. ips is a good display. but super ips+ is a big difference in quality of picture & display.
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why are people still stuck on thinking the only difference between ips and super ips+ is only screen brightness? lmfao. in a nutshell, prime has a higher quality screen and the pictures are sharper and shows more details. better color representation. n actually prime screen is ALOT BRIGHTER. 300 is only 300 or 350 lumens Max. Prime is 650+lumens Max. that's basically twice as bright. not a little brighter..lol
do the research..Google ips and super ips+ the latter is a newer technology which brings a better display overall. even seen several 300 owners even say display not as good as prime. ips is a good display. but super ips+ is a big difference in quality of picture & display.
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I had both of them in my home, on my table, sitting right in front of me.
I didnt notice any difference in sharpness. Granted it may be slightly better on the prime, i didnt notice it.
I did notice the prime COULD get brighter with IPS on and at max brightness, but usually at home i have IPS off and im around half brightness so unless you run around with it cranked at max all day, your not going to notice the brightness. Reading numbers on the internet is one thing, experiencing the difference first hand is another. my experience says the IPS doesnt make a huge difference unless your going to really be using it in direct sunlight, which i wont be. YMMV.
I also liked the color tone of the 300 better, whites looked whiter, less blue, however im sure in time there will be a customization for that.
Yes, the display is a lesser quality display in several respects but from my point of view its really not all that different.
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I also liked the color tone of the 300 better, whites looked whiter, less blue, however im sure in time there will be a customization for that.
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You're one of the very few that feels that way.
Practically every review of the TF300 states that the display isn't nearly as nice as that on the TF201 (not just brightness, but colors)
Also, having used the ISP+ feature for about two months now, it would be hard to give it up. If you never use your tablet outdoors, in sunlight, I guess it isn't necessary or useful, but if you do use your tablet out of the house, ISP+, to me, is more useful then the new iPad's screen (my son has the new iPad)
Keep in mind, the retina display requires apps be nearly double in size to take advantage of the new display, and uses more battery life.
My son and I put my wife's iPad2 side by side with his new iPad. Yeah, if you look closely, icons and text are sharper. In everyday use, I'm not so sure you'd notice the difference between the iPad2 (which, when it came out, everyone RAVED about the display) and the Retinal Display.
If you're not that computer savvy, or your house already has a lot of Apple products, get the iPad (I recommended the iPad to my elderly mother). If you might want more storage, or may want to add a keyboard dock to allow typing with a physical keyboard, consider the Prime...
Either one will probably be great for you. I don't think you'll be disappointed with either one.
Anyone have any opinions or experience on whether it's better to go with the TF201 or S2110 from Lenovo? I found the S2110 16GB w/ keyboard for $399 and it seemed too good to pass up. I'm worried though because I haven't seen any reviews and the most comparable device seems to be the TF201. How do you think the S2110 stacks up against it?
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/ideapad/s2110/
Don't think the dock is included for that price... (Unless you're not referring to the lenovo site). But yeah, wondering the same thing... Looks pretty good and would love to give it a try but haven't found any reviews yet.
I would want the 3g one but it's not listed
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I don't know if you are interested but you can get a TF300 with free keyboard from Sears for 359.00.
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Don't think the dock is included for that price... (Unless you're not referring to the lenovo site). But yeah, wondering the same thing... Looks pretty good and would love to give it a try but haven't found any reviews yet.
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I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
racerex said:
I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
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Cool, sweet deal... wonder how you'll like it
racerex said:
I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
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I could never splash that much cash without reading umpteen reviews. I admire you.
GS_Dan said:
I could never splash that much cash without reading umpteen reviews. I admire you.
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Normally I wouldn't but given the great deal I got I can likely sell it for little to no loss.
Lenovo is a good brand, the only concern is that it's not sure the community devels will be very active, so you could be stuck with branded ROM and so on.
I was able to get my hands on this tablet for a week 2 weeks ago. Alas, I didn't get the keyboard dock with it. I did some quick benchmarks:
AnTuTu Benchmark - 6781
Quadrant - 4797
Vellamo - 2203
CF-Bench Over all Score - 9261
SunSpider - 1930.1 ms
Battery Test. I looped a 42 minute 720p MKV file with screen at 50% brightness and wifi always connected. Tablet last 9h 14m.
I have taken screen shots of all the tests. If we compare to the results table on this review, http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/ , the Lenovo lands in the middle of the ASUS Transformer Prime and the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 in terms of benchmark results.I can say I quite like this tablet and it's responsiveness. It has a custom launcher, but I like it. Other than that, it looks like Ice Cream Sandwich is left alone. Speakers are fairly loud compared to previous tablets. Viewing angle on the screen is great. Oh and the screen itself is very nice! There is a little creakiness to the case- I would say it was similar to what I had in the Asus Transformer. I really dislike the power button- it is plastic-y and hard to push, but manageable.
I got a great deal at $374 INCLUDING keyboard dock, so I am fairly confident for the price it will be a great tablet. But my ordering experience from Lenovo has been an absolute nightmare.
I just took my TF700 back owing to bluetooth audio lag problems (which Asus says will be "improved" but not fixed in a future OTA) and I'm hoping the S2110 will be the answer to my keyboard + bluetooth audio prayers...
Just got my 2110
I just got my 2110 with the keyboard today. It wouldn't have been my first choice because of the lack of dev community, but I got it for free from my companies Lenovo rep.
So far it is extremely smooth and the keyboard is more useful than I thought it would be.
It is thin, light weight, and although it is mostly plastic it still feels well built.
The interface that Lenovo adds is minimal and kinda useless, but has some nice features. It changes the way widgets are added, the way wallpapers are changed, and it has some transition options for the home screen and app drawer. Other than that it is stock ICS.
I really do like this tablet, and as soon as the dev community picks up buying this would be a no-brainer in my opinion.
Dego41 said:
I just got my 2110 with the keyboard today. It wouldn't have been my first choice because of the lack of dev community, but I got it for free from my companies Lenovo rep.
So far it is extremely smooth and the keyboard is more useful than I thought it would be.
It is thin, light weight, and although it is mostly plastic it still feels well built.
The interface that Lenovo adds is minimal and kinda useless, but has some nice features. It changes the way widgets are added, the way wallpapers are changed, and it has some transition options for the home screen and app drawer. Other than that it is stock ICS.
I really do like this tablet, and as soon as the dev community picks up buying this would be a no-brainer in my opinion.
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About the keyboard dock, you could use conbination keys just like in windows such as : "alt+tab" to switch between in different running apps. "ctrl+alt+delete" to show all the running apps and even "ctrl+c""ctrl+v" to copy and paste texts