I'm using app2sd free now, Not DT's. What happens if I want to switch over to a2e? Most of my 100+ apps are on the sd card, but there are more I'd like to move over using a2e as well as the davlik. Yes, I'm still having issues with the davlik.
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I'm using app2sd free now, Not DT's. What happens if I want to switch over to a2e? Most of my 100+ apps are on the sd card, but there are more I'd like to move over using a2e as well as the davlik. Yes, I'm still having issues with the davlik.
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First of all, you are running cm7 correct? Gotta make sure because s2e only works with cm7.
Now since the app you're using moves your apps to the fat32 partition of you sd card you have it fairly easy.
Back up your sd card to your computer.
Use Ubuntu to add an ext3 partition. Then install s2e and check what you want moved and reboot. Then you just need to move your apps back to internal memory. When you do that s2e will automatically move them to the ext3 partition.
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Hey guys! I found some videos on YouTube and learned something about partitioning of the sdcard.And I believe that we need to choose some ext. partition of 128,256 or 512mb and do some swapping things.Will that actually increase the internal space on our phone? Can someone show me a thread regarding this or give me a detailed explanation??? Thanks!
Some ROMs have this feature implemented. (Void, megatron, etc) Nothing new...
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So will it increase internal storage space???
It doesn't increase it. The apps will install on sd card and you will have more free space on internal storage.
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Is it the same as Apps2sd?
Yes. App2sd needs that ext partition. Otherwise the phone simply uses the entire memory card with FAT filesystem.
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Yes. App2sd needs that ext partition. Otherwise the phone simply uses the entire memory card with FAT filesystem.
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Do you mean the original 2GB SD has ext partition? I think there is only one partition although I can use apps-to-sd in my P500. What is the real benefit by using more than one partition?
Yeah I would like to know that too!
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Do you mean the original 2GB SD has ext partition? I think there is only one partition although I can use apps-to-sd in my P500. What is the real benefit by using more than one partition?
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No, rikux, the original card only has FAT partition.
EXT type partition should be created only if you plan to use app2sd with a custom ROM.
In case things are not clear, App2SD is a feature that moves installed applications onto the memory card. There are two ways of using it:
1. Simple install of the app from the market. Now you got yourself a nice little batch mover from internal memory to the card. It can not move apps installed as services and widgets. You could move the apps yourself, but you can only do it one by one - so there's where Apps2SD comes in handy because it lets you do it all at once. All clear so far, OK?
2. A more sophisticated use of this feature, actually called "a2sd" and used in the custom ROMs. What it does is tricking the phone into believing it has more internal memory available. But all this extra space must come from somewhere, right? Thus, this space it's taken from the memory card under the appearance of an EXT partition. Why EXT, I don't know - probably in order not to confuse the phone with two FAT partitions. Now, when you install an application, the app goes to the internal memory but physically it's hosted on the SD card... get it? No more "moving to SD card" necessary, because now if you choose to MOVE an app from the "internal memory" to the "SD card", what you're actually doing is moving it from the EXT partition to the FAT partition. Moreover, now even service apps and widgets go to the SD card, and everything happens automatically.
rikux, you're falling in the first case above.
AsherChua, what you've seen on Youtube fits in the second case above.
I really hope you understand now the differences, and the utility.
Masteryx thanks very much for the good explanation.
As I am not going to use any custom ROM, the Froyo 2.2 inbuild capability to install2SD one by one is enough for me. So it seems like I don't need any more partitions.
The question still remains, are these "App2SD" and "a2SD" somehow more efficient than the standart Froyo apps2sd, which cannot install all apps to sd and if it can then only a part of app is in sd. I assume methode 1. and 2. can install all apps to sd.
Still one question as my 2GB original SD is quite full allready. Is it OK to copy all from the original SD to a bigger SD with PC card reader? Can the new SD be formatted in PC and is FAT32 OK?
Method 1 can install on the card only the apps that Froyo allows, not all of them. Method 2 installs all of them on the card.
About the new card: yes, it will work just fine. Just make sure you copy everything, including the hidden files and folders.
I suggest formatting the new card in the phone. Let it "decide" what kind of FAT system should be used. I know that FAT32 is a bit more reliable, but the phone manual clearly states that the card should use FAT16 (aka FAT) file system. I'm pretty sure both will work exactly the same, so do as you please.
Thanks masteryx for the brilliant answer! One question though,I'm using megatron and it has apps2sd 'preinstalled' in that rom. So can I say that I have case 2 enabled too?
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Thanks masteryx for the brilliant answer! One question though,I'm using megatron and it has apps2sd 'preinstalled' in that rom. So can I say that I have case 2 enabled too?
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Yes, you do.
Right thanks!
Hi!
After installing and playing around with some Roms, I found out, that
the internal memory is full.
I have found several informations about handling the internal memory thing - but I don't know which one is the right answer for Legend.
I used app2sd to install/move all apps to SD Card, but the internal memory still gets full.
Then I found a post in which one says that it's needed to make a ext partition on the SD Card to make it work right.
Can anybody tell me, what is the best way of getting more internal space?
I use the [ROM][RC3][24.07.2011] Gingerbread 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 - which works perfect - only the memory is strange.
I also made WIPE and Factory Reset before flashing this Rom.
Thank you!
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ad2003 said:
Hi!
After installing and playing around with some Roms, I found out, that
the internal memory is full.
I have found several informations about handling the internal memory thing - but I don't know which one is the right answer for Legend.
I used app2sd to install/move all apps to SD Card, but the internal memory still gets full.
Then I found a post in which one says that it's needed to make a ext partition on the SD Card to make it work right.
Can anybody tell me, what is the best way of getting more internal space?
I use the [ROM][RC3][24.07.2011] Gingerbread 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 - which works perfect - only the memory is strange.
I also made WIPE and Factory Reset before flashing this Rom.
Thank you!
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best you can use apps2ext by darktremor, i have also used it on this rom and it works
some quick instructions;
-backup your sd card manually in windows/mac/linux, because making an ext partition on your sd card will delete all your files on sd card
-use clockworkmod 3 to partition your sd card, you can chose different sizes (i use 250mb and its enough) and you need only an ext partition ,cwm3 can be found here
-restore your files back on the sd card (previously backuped)
-flash darktremor (link above)
-restart phone
that sould be it
Thank you, workes fine. Should I IDE LOW Memory option?
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best you can use apps2ext by darktremor, i have also used it on this rom and it works
some quick instructions;
-backup your sd card manually in windows/mac/linux, because making an ext partition on your sd card will delete all your files on sd card
-use clockworkmod 3 to partition your sd card, you can chose different sizes (i use 250mb and its enough) and you need only an ext partition ,cwm3 can be found here
-restore your files back on the sd card (previously backuped)
-flash darktremor (link above)
-restart phone
that sould be it
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I have flashed DarkTremor. But how exactly do I know if it is working? I converted my SD Card from ext2 to ext3 and I still can't move applications over. My internal storage space is still less than 20MB. Can anybody offer any assistance please?
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I have flashed DarkTremor. But how exactly do I know if it is working? I converted my SD Card from ext2 to ext3 and I still can't move applications over. My internal storage space is still less than 20MB. Can anybody offer any assistance please?
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theres an app on the market which controles darktremor's script, just search for "darktremor" on the market its free, and see what is using your internal memory and if darktremor is even working
remember, your cache is still on internal memory and your text messages etc are to
Blayo's kernel has data 2 ext support so you can run a ext partion as your internal memory. I would suggest a class 10 for it though
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50-3 said:
Blayo's kernel has data 2 ext support so you can run a ext partion as your internal memory. I would suggest a class 10 for it though
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out of my experience and the words of TheGrammarFreak (who made the data2ext script for cyanogenmod), data2ext is faster in benchmarks but slow in real use
and a class 4 sd is the best (words of TheGrammarFreak)
so out of my experience don't use data2ext but use apps2ext
Hey
I have just bought a new Micro SD card class 10 and created 2 partitions as the guide says(one fat32 and one ext4).
When i open Apps2SD the first page says that apps are on SD and when I click it, loads and says the same thing!
I want my apps on the Internal storage but I cannot move them!
Also swap is deactivated and I cannot activate it!
Any suggestions?
Isn't better to have my apps installed on internal storage?
It's always better to have them in the sdcard so you save internal memory space .
I wouldn't recommend using swap though
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If I move them to phone storage, they will move to the ext4 partition right?
I have assigned almost 1GB to the ext4 partition for this reason!
But can you imagine why I can't move them with Apps2SD?
kakouto said:
If I move them to phone storage, they will move to the ext4 partition right?
I have assigned almost 1GB to the ext4 partition for this reason!
But can you imagine why I can't move them with Apps2SD?
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When they said "Apps are on SD!" they meant "Apps are on SD-ext4!"
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kakouto said:
If I move them to phone storage, they will move to the ext4 partition right?
I have assigned almost 1GB to the ext4 partition for this reason!
But can you imagine why I can't move them with Apps2SD?
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Are you using "Apps 2 SD" from Market?
I don't think this app can move the apps for a ext4 partition (because it's not saying it)
Wich rom are you using? For CyanogenMod you can look for S2E in market, but for stock or another custom roms I don't know wich app should work :/
ps: I'm also looking for a app/script to do that.
We all know there's about what 200mb of internal memory while some higher end models have up to 10gb internal space....i want to move all of my apps to exclude widgets/launchers...unless there is a way to move everything on my phone to sd card...i currently have a scandisk 8gb memory card, what partitions would ya'll recommend for a 8gb memory card, what script could I use and how could I tell that my phone was being ran from the sd card
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If you want to install a lot of apps, then I think you will want a 1GB or even a 2GB partition. And I suggest that you move apps and Dalvik cache to your SD card, basically leaving only application data on the internal memory. I'm using S2E for this; I don't have experience with anything else. You won't be able to choose which apps to move with this method; you will have to move them all. But they will work fine.
Did you partition ext3 or ext4 or just stay with ext2...im guessing my first move would be to backup my data from sdcard than partition a size, what about your swap ? Did you set it to 0...i just downloaded s2e, the only option I see is download cache, but I know this because I have no ext partition on the sdcard
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I used ClockworkMod to create my ext partition. It creates an ext3, so I just used that. I did set swap to 0. I think these were the steps involved:
- Backup SD card
- Enter ClockworkMod Recovery and choose to partition the SD card
- Select a size for the ext partition and choose 0MB for swap
- Reboot phone and copy data back to the SD card
- Use S2E app to choose what gets moved to the SD card (applications and Dalvik cache)
I appreciate it mech, I figured those were right around the right steps
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Greetings,
I have my 2gb aria sd card partitioned with a 512mb ext3 partition for use with s2e and the rest partitioned as fat32 for data. When I download larger apps, I use cyanogen and move them to the sd card, however recently my sd card fat32 partition has been filling up with other data and I find myself needing to use more of the ext3 partition. However when I move apps with cyanogen back to the internal memory, I get out of memory errors in spite of having about 198mb of free internal memory and another 100mb available on the ext3 partition.
I am not entirely sure how s2e functions or if its even meant to be used in conjunction with cyanogen's apps2sd function, but the way I thought it worked was s2e virtually added the ext3 partition to the phones internal memory and so from Android's perspective it would just seem like the phone had 700mb internal memory instead of 200.
My question is how, if it is even possible, do I move the apps currently on the fat32 partition back to internal memory and back to the ext3 partition using s2e? Or, would it be better to not use s2e for apps at all and only use it to keep the cache? Or, would it be best to not use s2e at all and rely only on cyanogen?
Here is a screenshot of my apps menu which shows negative space. The out of space errors start showing up after I modify an app using cyanogen in some way which causes the negative numbers to appear.
The readings about how much free space is available from within "application settings" in Android might be inaccurate while you're using S2E. Instead, open the S2E application and go to Menu > Information to get accurate readings.
Personally, I use S2E to move applications to the sd-ext partition but leave everything else in internal memory. However you might have a much larger Dalvik cache if you have a lot more installed applications than I do, so that might not work for you.
S2E and the built-in FAT32 apps2sd should work together without any problems. When you move an application from "SD card" to "internal" (via built-in apps2sd), it's actually moving it from FAT32 to sd-ext (if S2E is configured to move applications to the sd-ext partition). You don't have to do anything special for this to work like this.
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drumist said:
The readings about how much free space is available from within "application settings" in Android might be inaccurate while you're using S2E. Instead, open the S2E application and go to Menu > Information to get accurate readings.
Personally, I use S2E to move applications to the sd-ext partition but leave everything else in internal memory. However you might have a much larger Dalvik cache if you have a lot more installed applications than I do, so that might not work for you.
S2E and the built-in FAT32 apps2sd should work together without any problems. When you move an application from "SD card" to "internal" (via built-in apps2sd), it's actually moving it from FAT32 to sd-ext (if S2E is configured to move applications to the sd-ext partition). You don't have to do anything special for this to work like this.
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Why is it if I try to put back the application to back to the phone application storage.My Sd card memory remains the same.Example I move games back to internal memory.My sd card memory still remains at 4.2mb which is very low at the moment.
is there an updated guide to using s2E and apps2SD?
I just want to that the phone will install automatically apps in the SD card and not in the phone memory? what's the best way to do that?
CaptainMaki said:
is there an updated guide to using s2E and apps2SD?
I just want to that the phone will install automatically apps in the SD card and not in the phone memory? what's the best way to do that?
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1) Install S2E.
2) Open S2E and check 'Applications' and 'Dalvik cache', then reboot.
3) Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > Application. Make sure "install location" is set to Internal. (That may seem counter-intuitive, but that's the way S2E works. If you use External, it will put it on the FAT32 partition.)
4) Go to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > SD card (at the top). Go to each app that has a checkmark next to it, select them one by one and click "Move to phone", then go back until you don't have any checked. That also might seem counter-intuitive, but you're moving them from the FAT32 partition to the ext partition, which is what you want.
That's pretty much it.
and from that moment on everything will be install on the card automatically?
also isn't S2E built into cyanogen ? I've read something about it.
CaptainMaki said:
and from that moment on everything will be install on the card automatically?
also isn't S2E built into cyanogen ? I've read something about it.
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Yes to your first question. From that point on, you never have to think about it again and everything "just works".
Yes, S2E is "built in" to Cyanogenmod in the sense that you do not have to flash any special modifications to your ROM in order to get S2E working. You only need to install the app from the market. With other apps2sd methods out there, you have to make modifications to your ROM through a flashable zip in order for it to work.
The more accurate way to word it is that Cyanogenmod has support for S2E built-in.
Now I get it. helps a lot!