i'm rooted - i think - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark

markkal123 said:
ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark
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Download Super User and Titanium from the market. Try to freeze some of your bloatware. If it let's you, you are rooted.

when i open superuser should i expect to see apps in the app tab? superuser opens but i see no apps in the app tab.

markkal123 said:
when i open superuser should i expect to see apps in the app tab? superuser opens but i see no apps in the app tab.
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You won't see any till they request permission.

Dead give away to if you're rooted is that when you flashed the second PG05IMG.zip the top of the screen would have said "s-off".

This will tell you if you have root or not:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&feature=search_result
Also, if you download apps like Titanium Backup, it requires root to function properly, so you'd know then too.

Some of the programs that you would want is kernel manager and clockwork manager. Read through dev. Forum and decide which kernel and rom u want to be running. If ur rooted why stay pn stock.
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markkal123 said:
ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark
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If you power on your phone while holding the volume down button, you will load into the bootloader. At the top it should say "MECHA XD ENG S-OFF" at the top. You are rooted.
As the others said, install ClockworkMod and TitaniumBackup.
TitaniumBackup will allow you to freeze (Or uninstall) bloatware that was put on your phone. I usually just freeze the apps because uninstalling can sometimes cause issues. Look at the app in titanium and tap on it, which will bring up a menu. Hit "Freeze" and it will stop the program, remove it from your app drawer and not load it in the future. TB also allows you to backup your apps (And sync them to your dropbox if you have one).
Clockwork mod is what you use to flash ROMs. ROMs are customized UI's for your phone that can add or take away a number of features. I personally use Das Bamf 1.6, which is amazing. A ROM that retains the "Sense" UI will still look a lot like the native HTC screen, keeping many of the features. A "Desensed" screen removes HTC's UI, causing it to be the more native Andoid phone OS (Think Nexus 1).
ROMs can also add features such as over/underclocking the processor, different animations (Startup, etc) and adding modes like "Hibernate."
To install a ROM, first backup your current ROM.
Open ClockworkMod>Scroll down and hit "Backup Current Rom">Enter backup name (Usually the date, but you can name it whatever)
It will ask you if its ok to restart into CWM recovery. Hit yes. The phone will restart and Clockwork will back up your settings. After that you can restart the phone and it will start up your phone like normal again.
Now that you have a back up (In case you hate the rom you install or something goes wrong) you can install a ROM! To do that we go back to ClockworkMod.
Hit the button labeled "Download ROM." This will bring up a number of ROMs that have been linked into CWM. For this example I will use das BAMF. Hit das BAMF and you will see many different versions. If you hit one of them, it will download the ROM and CWM will flash it. CWM will ask you if you want to clear all data. Adrynalyne says you do not need to, and I have not needed to, but if you have problems, reflash and wipe all data first with the options.
Kind of a quick an dirty. There are much better guides here on the forums for doing all of this. Search the forums. Read carefully.

thanks for the info. with your help i am indeed rooted.
a stickey regarding this would be helpful and appreciated. included would be whether or not a rooted thunderbolt could possibly be "bricked" with any verizon/htc updates. are there issues with manufacture updates of rooted phones?

Congrats on being rooted! I rooted my Thunderbolt within 2 hours of buying it! A little observation I have made is that my Thunderbolt loses 3G more often after updating the Radio. I have tried everything to remedy this situation, ie all different assortments and variations posted here on XDA.

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Rooting my Eris

Ok, before you tell me to search, I have. For two days. I have looked at everything from forums to youtube videos on how to root the droid eris. The thing I am trying to do the unrevoked method. The thing I can't get past is in the begining. I go to the hboot screen by pressing volume down and power. I plug in my usb cable and nothing happens. I think I'm supposed to see it say hboot usb plug. It doesn't. I go to devise manager just to check and it doesn't show my phone. So I'm sure you can see my frustration not even being able to get past the first step. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Matt
Got it fixed using the 1 click root from the market. Then added XTR Sense rom. Works great.
Congrats and welcome to a whole new Eris!
Yes, congratulations, and furthermore, excellent choice of a "replacement" ROM, I just recently went back to xtrSENSE after perhaps four months playing with Froyo.
FYI, I suspect the issue was you might've needed the Windows drivers for the phone loaded before using the unREVOKED method, but it's just a guess.
Install HTCSync (available from HTC's website) for the Droid Eris and that'll install the correct drivers, which will take a moment to load the first time you plug your phone in via USB next time. Also, give it a moment to load those drivers before doing anything like mounting the SD card to the computer via USB.
I just rooted mine back in December and the 1 click was the one that made the most sense for me, i didnt even kno bout the unrevolked til after i was rooted....but im loving the cm7 gingerbread roms, for being such early versions there really stable
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Pauly2277 said:
I just rooted mine back in December and the 1 click was the one that made the most sense for me, i didnt even kno bout the unrevolked til after i was rooted....but im loving the cm7 gingerbread roms, for being such early versions there really stable
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Belated welcome to rooting, then.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Belated welcome to rooting, then.
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Why thank you sir....i just dont kno why i didnt do it earlier
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Pauly2277 said:
Why thank you sir....i just dont kno why i didnt do it earlier
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You were probably afraid that you'd let the smoke out.
I'm about to take the plunge myself. I use the Trackmaster app for recording lap times. From my research, Sense does not support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) bluetooth profile. But, I understand that a non-sense (AOSP) ROM will have the entire bluetooth stack intact.
I've been following the tazz and shed GB threads with much admiration. It's just amazing what some folks will do for coffee money. And guys, I wish you all the best with your personal struggles!
My plan is to root this week. Make sure the phone remains stable. Practice that Up-Volume & Power Button thing a few times to make sure I can follow the flash procedure. Then grab GB next week.
I've read the rooting for dummies thread, and will use the one-click root app from the market. Free one first. Then if all is well I'll download the pay one.
Successful GB load will get a meal, and after I confirm my bluetooth GPS unit works with Trackmaster, coffee money will follow.
As you may be able to tell from the above sentence fragments (or maybe the straight forward I don't give a sh.t if I violate any social protocol plan) I'm a former Engineer (retired), so constructive advice / criticism is greatly appreciated. And I got the time to double-check everything.
Alan Wolfe
Many people with less analytical skills than you have rooted, and it sounds like you've done your homework, so it should be a snap for you. The only thing I will add is to re-emphasize what you proabably have already read - that you should:
- check the file integrity of all file downloads (using MD5 sigs or "jar verify" principles for ROM files, e.g. use 'scary alien's" AFV (Androd File Verifier) free market app)
- charge the phone well before any flashing operations (and don't let it sit in HBOOT or Fastboot modes for extended period of time - it discharges rapidly, even if plugged in)
- make a Nandroid backup of your existing ROM. If things don't work out with the BT issues, you can always go back to where you were, little worse for the wear.
cheers and good luck
Thanks - didn't have the MD5 crypto check in the plan, but it is now.
I just can't believe how good the work being done here is. I used to contract for much poorer work for much more money! This just proves that passion beats bucks every time!
p.s. I pushed that Thanks button for you, but damned if I can tell if it worked
p.p.s Got the Thanks thing - I see it now.
bftb0 said:
Alan Wolfe
Many people with less analytical skills than you have rooted, and it sounds like you've done your homework, so it should be a snap for you. The only thing I will add is to re-emphasize what you proabably have already read - that you should:
- check the file integrity of all file downloads (using MD5 sigs or "jar verify" principles for ROM files, e.g. use 'scary alien's" AFV (Androd File Verifier) free market app)
- charge the phone well before any flashing operations (and don't let it sit in HBOOT or Fastboot modes for extended period of time - it discharges rapidly, even if plugged in)
- make a Nandroid backup of your existing ROM. If things don't work out with the BT issues, you can always go back to where you were, little worse for the wear.
cheers and good luck
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One thing to add: the Gingerbread ROMs require you to download and flash a google apps .zip file before you restart the phone, unlike many other ROMs that include Google apps as part of the ROM. So, that is one more file that you need to check an MD5 hash, and the procedure will be something like this:
- download and verify the GSB/Tazz and Google apps zip files
- copy them to the root directory of the SD card, and check the MD5s there as well
- root the phone
- restart it to get the root process to install custom recovery
- restart in Recovery
- Nandroid backup what you have
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe Dalvik cache
- Flash GSB (or Tazz, whichever one you choose)
- Flash Google apps
- restart the phone
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One thing to add: the Gingerbread ROMs require you to download and flash a google apps .zip file before you restart the phone, unlike many other ROMs that include Google apps as part of the ROM. So, that is one more file that you need to check an MD5 hash, and the procedure will be something like this:
- download and verify the GSB/Tazz and Google apps zip files
- copy them to the root directory of the SD card, and check the MD5s there as well
- root the phone
- restart it to get the root process to install custom recovery
- restart in Recovery
- Nandroid backup what you have
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe Dalvik cache
- Flash GSB (or Tazz, whichever one you choose)
- Flash Google apps
- restart the phone
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Interesting doogald. I understood that root should be done first before any downloading. Thanks for the above instructions! I had things a little out of order. Would you mind clarifying when the SD card format should be done? I was going to:
- root the phone
- format SD
- copy ROM and gapps
- MD5 check
- restart ... and follow your order above.
Alan Wolfe said:
Interesting doogald. I understood that root should be done first before any downloading. Thanks for the above instructions! I had things a little out of order. Would you mind clarifying when the SD card format should be done? I was going to:
- root the phone
- format SD
- copy ROM and gapps
- MD5 check
- restart ... and follow your order above.
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Honestly, I think that the SD card format is unnecessary. Unless I am mistaken, it was suggested in part to rule out issues people might be having moving from rooted Froyo to Gingerbread, to erase the SD card's /.android_secure hidden folder - where apps that are moved to SD Card in Froyo are stored. That will not be an issue for you if you are stock Eris.
However, it won't hurt to do it, and that would be the step that it should be done.
Thanks again. Its nice to get confirmation.
Ignorant question - The one-click root app says to "reboot" the eris. How do you reboot the eris?
I searched forum - read the whole one-click app thread - googled "reboot eris" and got nothing.
NEVERMIND!!! I turned the phone off, vol - & power, select recovery with vol +, then select reboot.
And I got a Superuser Permission... widget now.
Alan Wolfe said:
I'm about to take the plunge myself. I use the Trackmaster app for recording lap times. From my research, Sense does not support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) bluetooth profile. But, I understand that a non-sense (AOSP) ROM will have the entire bluetooth stack intact.
I've been following the tazz and shed GB threads with much admiration. It's just amazing what some folks will do for coffee money. And guys, I wish you all the best with your personal struggles!
My plan is to root this week. Make sure the phone remains stable. Practice that Up-Volume & Power Button thing a few times to make sure I can follow the flash procedure. Then grab GB next week.
I've read the rooting for dummies thread, and will use the one-click root app from the market. Free one first. Then if all is well I'll download the pay one.
Successful GB load will get a meal, and after I confirm my bluetooth GPS unit works with Trackmaster, coffee money will follow.
As you may be able to tell from the above sentence fragments (or maybe the straight forward I don't give a sh.t if I violate any social protocol plan) I'm a former Engineer (retired), so constructive advice / criticism is greatly appreciated. And I got the time to double-check everything.
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I could tell. The way you wrote reminded me of myself, at least from time to time. And probably even more often how I think.
Alan Wolfe said:
Thanks again. Its nice to get confirmation.
Ignorant question - The one-click root app says to "reboot" the eris. How do you reboot the eris?
I searched forum - read the whole one-click app thread - googled "reboot eris" and got nothing.
NEVERMIND!!! I turned the phone off, vol - & power, select recovery with vol +, then select reboot.
And I got a Superuser Permission... widget now.
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FYI rebooting the phone at it's simplest is just telling the phone to shut down the Android OS and then boot it back up. This doesn't have to involve actually shutting the power off to the phone but it can if you so choose. Also, some ROMs and/or through some apps/widgets, you can explicitly command your phone to "reboot" from within the Android interface. I just didn't want you to think that any time a "reboot" is needed, that you have to boot into recovery and choose the "reboot" option from there.
It's just like a reboot on a computer. Actually powering the computer off isn't really necessary to affect a reboot.
Welcome to root and XDA!
Thanks!
I saw a lot of references to Titanium Backup so I DLed the free version. Its happy now after I enabled USB Debugging and download from Unknown sources. So now that I have double checked I Know I got root now.
Oh, and since I confirmed root I uninstalled the one-click root app and made a donation to the San Antonio Food Bank.
Welcome to the dark side ! At least we have coffee and cookies here !!! LOL
Seriously though, so what ROM did you end up choosing ? Any time someone new to the forums finally roots and flashes a ROM we like to see how things are going and see that your process was successful !
GSB 1.7
Awesome!!!
Now I gotta finish up downloading my apps and getting things set up. This is totally cool.
I did:
- reformat SD
- copy goodies from PC
- wipe data
- wipe dalvik
- flash GSB
- flash gapps
- flash c2c
- reboot
Sooo I am very happy my Ginger Tazz. It is awesome. Now looking into different themes. One concern is skype mobile says it only works on verizon wireless. Im on VW. Why isnt it working?
Thanks
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msturner79 said:
Sooo I am very happy my Ginger Tazz. It is awesome. Now looking into different themes. One concern is skype mobile says it only works on verizon wireless. Im on VW. Why isnt it working?
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There are two Skype apps for Android: a "special" one for VZW that does not work with WiFi (at least on the Eris it does not), and a real version that does work over WiFi. The VZW version will use Verizon minutes to make calls to phone numbers but 3G for Skype to Skype (and international calls.) I think that the real Skype app uses 3G or WiFi for everything, but 'm not sure.
In the market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skype.raider&feature=search_result and https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skype.android.verizon&feature=search_result

[Q] building a custom rom

Hi I'm new to the development scene, I am trying to strip down a rom to remove certain programs... actually everything but the web browser, firefox 5 and flash. I would also like to set a default background in the image and preset the wireless settings too. These are going to be put in an environment where we don't want them to be messed with. Is there an easy way of doing this? I was thinking the ASOP rom might be the best candidate to work with, but I don't know for sure. I ill be rolling out about 20 - 25 units in the next week or so. any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
Your best bet is really probably to use the latest stock ROM so you don't leave root access and google market in there. You could probably acomplish your roll out by setting up any rom the way you want it, then wiping cache and user data, and running a nand backup with CWM. Then use that backup to restore onto the other devices.
To remove system apps in a ROM you can use ADB from a PC, or you can root it with z4root and use Titanium Backup. Then remove root before the backup.
thanks for the info
Thanks a bunch! I will try that when they come in. If I clear out the user data will that wipe out the wifi settings? To remove programs via ADB I still would need to be rooted correct?
Thanks
Joe
Yes clearing data will wipe wifi settings. I have never tried ADB on an unrooted device. You should jsut be able to activate debug usb and have it work jsut fine. But you can root with z4root and then UNroot with z4root when you are done with doing your root things (but befor eyou make a nand image).
Just search for z4root.apk
removing special apps
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
linuxman84 said:
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
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They are installed as system apps. You would need to use something like SystemApp Remover to remove them (it can also backup the system aps incase you want to reinstall and also convert nonsystem apps to system apps). But, you do realize that there are other places for users to get apps to install than Market and you can still reach Facebook & Youtube via the browser once the google apps are removed!!!!
Hmm
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
Use the instructions posted here on the CyanogenMod Wiki to get rid of whatever you want.
And, there's really no need to use things like z4root on the gTablet. You can get root without that. In fact, if you can connect to the tablet using adb, then you're already root. The gTab is not like a locked-down phone.
linuxman84 said:
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
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I do believe you are correct...the stock TapNTap had the ability to save Web Links as Icons on the home screen. Not running stock and don't remember if there is a way to remove them.
z4root is handy to gain root and install busybox/superuser without having to set up adb though.

[Q] Best way to remove bloat?

Whats the best way to completely remove bloat (like blockbuster, nascar, etc). I have ES file Explorer (has root explore, seems to work) and titanium backup installed. titanium wants to restart the phone 2 times per removal tho
Whats the best way to do this, thx
Eat it iPhone said:
Whats the best way to completely remove bloat (like blockbuster, nascar, etc). I have ES file Explorer (has root explore, seems to work) and titanium backup installed. titanium wants to restart the phone 2 times per removal tho
Whats the best way to do this, thx
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I use root explorer to remove them. Just choose multi select from the menu, then check each one you want to remove and hit delete. Or you can choose move and put them in a folder on your SD card if you'd like.
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k2buckley said:
I use root explorer to remove them. Just choose multi select from the menu, then check each one you want to remove and hit delete. Or you can choose move and put them in a folder on your SD card if you'd like.
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Where are the apps located? thanks
Eat it iPhone said:
Where are the apps located? thanks
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/system/app
--Sent from my 3D Shooter --
Is there a thread with the apps that are safe to remove yet? I cant seem to find one.
Flash a rom that has the bloat already removed. I flashed OMJ Deodexed De-bloated Rom first thing after using revolutionary.
Root explorer has been great for me as well. Have to fork up a little dough but thats fine with me since i use it on all my devices. Just dont delete things that could be important. dont delete the stock messaging app or no incoming mms, if you delete sprint zone you cant call customer service with *2 etc....
Root Explorer works great but ES FIle Explorer will do the ame thing as long as it you give it root access. And it's free.
Negrito said:
Is there a thread with the apps that are safe to remove yet? I cant seem to find one.
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I've been looking too and can't seem to find a list either. Anyone?
javi_06 said:
I've been looking too and can't seem to find a list either. Anyone?
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I'll make one and put it up tonight if you guys still haven't found one. So in like 10 hours....
BDawgTrap said:
I'll make one and put it up tonight if you guys still haven't found one. So in like 10 hours....
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AWESOME! Really appreciate it.
The first night the phone was rooted, before any roms were released I used Root Uninstaller (from the market) to remove the bloat. Just make sure you use the uninstall option, NOT freeze!!!!
As far as a list, heres one of what dev - kushdeck removed from his rom...seems to pretty much cover all the bloat. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194672
Removed Bloat:
AdobeReader
Amazonmp3
Blockbuster
FusionStocks/Widget
Footprints/Widget
News/Widget
Magicsmoke Wallpapers
Sprint Radio
Nascar
PolarisOffice
Spiderman
Mobilewallet
SprintNavi
SprintTV
Sprintzone
Stocks
Obviously just don't delete things you want to keep/might use, if you do though, he has also uploaded a zip with the files that were removed.
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AWESOME! Really appreciate it.
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Here you guys go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16221333#post16221333
i ended up having a few hours to do it just barely so i did Remember it is a work in progress but that top list should give you a pretty good idea! let me know if you guys have any questions! just pm me
Probably going to root very soon. Would like to know which, in your opinions, was the better recovery to flash. Probably not going to flash a rom just yet though. Just want to get root access and remove the bloat, oh, and probably install wireless tether if there is one for this yet. ^^
johnequickiii said:
Probably going to root very soon. Would like to know which, in your opinions, was the better recovery to flash. Probably not going to flash a rom just yet though. Just want to get root access and remove the bloat, oh, and probably install wireless tether if there is one for this yet. ^^
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I like TWRP the best. It takes some from Amon_RA. Very well put together.
Viperboy made a flashable Mod . You can select groups of bloadware (sprint, htc, misc) or you can remove each one individually. If you're not using ViperROM, at least check it out.
viperMOD Bloat Manager v3.1.2 for HTC EVO 3D | by -viperBOY-
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166740
Now how about the rooting process. I don't want to add a custom rom at the moment, just root and remove stuff. Like do I REALLY have to temp root before I perm root? That seems kinda like a waste of time.
Also, If I'm not happy with the recovery I flash, can I flash a different one, or am I stuck with what I choose?
johnequickiii said:
Now how about the rooting process. I don't want to add a custom rom at the moment, just root and remove stuff. Like do I REALLY have to temp root before I perm root? That seems kinda like a waste of time.
Also, If I'm not happy with the recovery I flash, can I flash a different one, or am I stuck with what I choose?
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Well no you don't have to flash a custom rom to root. You can very much root the stock rom. And as far as root, well what did you want to know??? And as far as your recovery. If you flash one and want to change it yes its possible. As long as its done correctly you can change at will. Id recommend twrp 1.0.3 to start with. Its user friendly, custom colors to choose from and it has a great support thread.
Locked & Loaded
" Shooter on Deck "

Before I ROM it

I want to back-up some things--mainly the wife's angry birds stats. Trouble is that every post I read talks about loading things using the market after the tablet is ROMmed.
I've tried putting superuser on manually but it doesn't seem to recognize root explorer. All this after following the root instructions found here.
Angrybirds backup, superuser ... is not available in the gtab market (hadango) found on the device when stock. AppBrain doesn't seem to have any way to get the appbrain app onto the tablet.
I need advice on how to get apps on the tablet or to get superuser to recognize root explorer, or perhaps just how to get angrybirds backed up.
I use titanium backup or mybackup root!
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barqers said:
I use titanium backup or mybackup root!
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Respectfully, what you use isn't the question really. If I can't get superuser to work with it then I'm still stuck.
So to restate here, I need a way to get these apps onto the tab before its rommed, or to make superuser to work.
honestly, I thought my wife would freak when I lost all of her angry birds saves, but she said it was "fun" to have to do it all again.
For superuser:
Install ES File Explorer from market
Use ES to install Z4root from xda
Run Z4root to root tab
Test root using Root Explorer
For backup:
Install Titanium
Perform backup of User Apps
Flash ROM
Install Titanium
Restore User Apps backups
According to this link: http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ which I got from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008245 I am rooted.
Unless I shouldn't trust that link.
Fr33th0t said:
According to this link: http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ which I got from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008245 I am rooted.
Unless I shouldn't trust that link.
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You can trust the link. Lots of good info there.
If you are on a stock rom, you are not rooted (unless have you used something like Z4 to root it). All custom roms are already rooted for you. Anytime you nvflash back to stock you will not be rooted.
Al
Well I remember looking for an answer to root and finding several places saying that I would have root after following those instructions. I guess I let my experience with rooting got in the way of understanding. That or nobody thought to mention that you don't need root to load a new recovery image or a ROM.
z4root it is. Thank you for your time and attention to my small problem.
Fr33th0t said:
Well I remember looking for an answer to root and finding several places saying that I would have root after following those instructions. I guess I let my experience with rooting got in the way of understanding. That or nobody thought to mention that you don't need root to load a new recovery image or a ROM.
z4root it is. Thank you for your time and attention to my small problem.
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No problem. It's all a learning experience. I knew absolutely nothing about android 3 months ago. When installing signed zips (which is what you install via recovery or cwm, the install scripts set permissions to perform the installations. Nvflash, also has root access. It' only you the user that doesn't have it when android boots on the stock rom.
Android is a big learning experience. There are no manuals and the only place this all exists is either in a post somewhere or in our minds. What 'goodintentions' did by creating the dummies site was try to make it as much a one stop shop as possible for new (and old) users to get the most out of their gTabs, but, there is just so much and each rom has different nuances that it's not possible to put everything there. Especially since he alone is footing the bill to keep the site going.
You also have to remember that not everyone is an expert and we all benefit by putting our collective minds together and helping each other. What one person doesn't remember another user may & hopefully help out. Just as hopefully you can do the same to someone else with your experieces.
Anyway, didn't mean to preach...time to get off the soapbox. Hopefully you can now do what you set out to do & if you need more info, feel free to post again.
Al
Yea, well so much for z4root. It does do a good job of restarting the tab though.
Fr33th0t said:
Yea, well so much for z4root. It does do a good job of restarting the tab though.
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Are you saying it didn't work? I used it on my gTab & Cruz Reader without problems. It's really simple. Install, single butten press & it will reboot. Where did you download from? How do you know it didn't work? After install/button press/reboot, open Terminal Emulator, type su & return. Does it respond with a # prompt...if so you have root access.
Al

Old Versions .... ???

Is there any site or source on the web that provides downloads of old versions of Android Market apps? This would be for apps that are now updated or no longer available on the Market? I am looking for a site similar to "OldVersion.com" which has some old/classic PC software (but this would be something for android apps instead)?
Thanks if anyone knows of a source or sites.
CustomShortcut gone?
The app that I am looking for in the above post was a free one called CustomShortcut APK. I now have it on one of my two phones (the other phone had it but was lost and replaced). I have tried looking for a developer page for this app but no luck as everything seems to point back to android market as the source link for download.
Does anyone know of a way or source for me to get this APK back on my other phone? Is there a way to copy it from one phone to the other? I am assuming that it was removed from the market because it may not be compatible with ICS but I am not running ICS. The application was made by appli.club.
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
85gallon said:
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
just google for any app you want like this:
"title" "versionnumber" "apk" "download"
for example:
android market 2.9 apk download
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
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Well I am not really too concerned about it wiping out my phone, but I thought I had read many posts here talking about once you root your phone the native skin from the manufacturer is eliminated (for HTC that would be the "Sense" user interface). Can you please confirm? Is this not true? HTC Sense will remain exactly the same after rooting my phone?
The other thing that has made me cautious is that my phone runs perfectly now and I see so many threads on the xda boards here and over at various android forums that start off with "My ____ app is not working right since I rooted...." Just a little daunting for a newbie like myself.
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I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Thanks very much for the site suggestion. I have been trying to search for the CustomShortcut APK over there but no luck ...so far (the site search is not that easy to use). I have even tried to seach the site externally using google but, unfortunately, still no luck.
Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
mojosingle said:
Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
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yes you can unroot. As for easy access after you are rooted to vulnerable areas, they can only get access if you let them. If an app wants super user privileges, you will get a pop up from su(the super user apk) telling you that some app is wanting privileges. You can grant or deny access. The only things on my phone that have ever given me a pop up are things that i downloaded and know need su access. Wifi tether, root explorer, adfree, etc.
I have found a site that keeps older version of an android app. It's called Android Drawer.
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