I have an issue that after searching the forums, could not find anyone reporting this issue.
I am trying to use MediaFly application that provides access to Video Podcasts. One of the Podcasts I wanted to view is "NBC Nightly News" this is a HD video podcast that is in .m4v format and when it tries to play I get Video tearing (Reminds me of old TV with bad Horz adjustment). I then used the Download option to get a LOCAL copy of the Podcast file and tried playing it with RockPlayer. When asked by RockPlayer if I wanted to use HARDWARE or SOFTWARE decoding, I selected hardware and it started to play and has the exact same video tearing. I then went back and tried Software Decoding and it plays fine (No tearing). I have tried a number of methods to resolve this and searched my brains out trying to get Rock Player as the Default video player (No luck). In some applications it asks me what player I want to use (File Manager) and if I choose Rock Player, It will play fine but for others I still get tearing.
I have tried both versions of Mediafly with no luck.
I am running Vegan-Tab GingerEdition 7.0.0
Any help is appreciated..
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I have an issue that after searching the forums, could not find anyone reporting this issue.
I am trying to use MediaFly application that provides access to Video Podcasts. One of the Podcasts I wanted to view is "NBC Nightly News" this is a HD video podcast that is in .m4v format and when it tries to play I get Video tearing (Reminds me of old TV with bad Horz adjustment). I then used the Download option to get a LOCAL copy of the Podcast file and tried playing it with RockPlayer. When asked by RockPlayer if I wanted to use HARDWARE or SOFTWARE decoding, I selected hardware and it started to play and has the exact same video tearing. I then went back and tried Software Decoding and it plays fine (No tearing). I have tried a number of methods to resolve this and searched my brains out trying to get Rock Player as the Default video player (No luck). In some applications it asks me what player I want to use (File Manager) and if I choose Rock Player, It will play fine but for others I still get tearing.
I have tried both versions of Mediafly with no luck.
I am running Vegan-Tab GingerEdition 7.0.0
Any help is appreciated..
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It's a wonder you got it to play at all with HW acceleration, as that is broken in VeganGinger.
MediaFly must use its own built-in player, if so you have no control over it. Your best bet is local download, or wait for better drivers supporting HW decoding, or switch to a Froyo based Rom which fully supports HW decoding.
That is what I was afraid of. I was hoping there was a way to disable Hardware Deconding so that whatever Player an App uses to play video, it would just use software decoding (At least Until newer drivers are available).
it isnt just veganginger, any rom based on GB does not support hardware video, you need a froyo based rom for hardware video.
at least thats what i have been reading here on the forums.
pretty sure rockplayer has a setting that you can tell it software only.
Dave
Yes, Rockplayer does support Software deconding and it works great! The problem is I have no way to tell some apps (MediaFly) to use ROCK PLAYER as the video stream renderer and even when I can specify Rock player, I sometimes defaults to Hardware decode.
My uderstanding is the the App "Galary" is the default player and it does not appear to ahve a way to setup for no hardware decode.
I really like Vegan-Tab GingerEditon and do not want to go back to Froyo and thiis issue is not enought of a problem to consider reverting.
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Yes, Rockplayer does support Software deconding and it works great! The problem is I have no way to tell some apps (MediaFly) to use ROCK PLAYER as the video stream renderer and even when I can specify Rock player, I sometimes defaults to Hardware decode.
My uderstanding is the the App "Galary" is the default player and it does not appear to ahve a way to setup for no hardware decode.
I really like Vegan-Tab GingerEditon and do not want to go back to Froyo and thiis issue is not enought of a problem to consider reverting.
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I think Vital Player defaults to Software decoding, you might want to try that player. I have both Rock and Vital on my gtab. I switch from time to time based on performance on a certain video file.
Also, do you have a custom kernel installed on your gtab? I thought pershoots kernel had some form of hardware decoding. You might want to give that a shot too.
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I think Vital Player defaults to Software decoding, you might want to try that player. I have both Rock and Vital on my gtab. I switch from time to time based on performance on a certain video file.
Also, do you have a custom kernel installed on your gtab? I thought pershoots kernel had some form of hardware decoding. You might want to give that a shot too.
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I download the Vital player and it works, but so did Rock Player. Has anyone used Pershoots Kernel with Vegan-Tab GingerEdition. I tried last week, and the WiFi stopped working and I had to re-install GingerEdition.
I know I should just shut up and wait for updated kernel Hardware drivers, but I like having a challenge to keep me busy.
Again thanks everyone for their input and suggestions.
Well, I just could not deal with the limited video rendering. I switched back to Vegan Tab 5.1 Really miss the VTLauncher
Thanks everyone for you support
Look for the link in apps or just buy it in the market and support GoJimi. I run it on my Droid 1
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Well, I just could not deal with the limited video rendering. I switched back to Vegan Tab 5.1 Really miss the VTLauncher
Thanks everyone for you support
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Indeed - you can install VTL Launcher 1.6.2 on anything. It is the best launcher for tablets
Suggest you buy it or at least dump off a donation on his site...
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Hello all i purchased my gtab new a week ago and have had plenty of time to play and mode it is running 2.3.3 and vegan 7.0.0 build is GRI40 after reviewing it before purchase and appreciaing the hardware for the money made the purchase and i am in love .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..EXCEPT ONE ISSUE it will not play video clips that i am used to playing on anything even my chineses herotab would play just about anything i threw at it is there anything i can do as this will be a deal breaker for me and it will be retruned pls any input or advice is appreciated
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Hello all i purchased my gtab new a week ago and have had plenty of time to play and mode it is running 2.3.3 and vegan 7.0.0 build is GRI40 after reviewing it before purchase and appreciaing the hardware for the money made the purchase and i am in love .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..EXCEPT ONE ISSUE it will not play video clips that i am used to playing on anything even my chineses herotab would play just about anything i threw at it is there anything i can do as this will be a deal breaker for me and it will be retruned pls any input or advice is appreciated
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What video player are you using? I've found moboplayer to work really well and play most types of video files. If that doesn't work try Rock Player or one of the many other video players available for Android. The stock video player isn't all that great and won't play a lot of video files that other players will.
NVidea has never released video drivers for gingerbread, so videos will not play 100% correctly in any gingerbread Rom.
If you back down to a 2.2 Froyo rom, then just about any video clip you want to play will work.
I've found that RockPlayer can handle just about anything. But I prefer MoboPlayer because it's free. In MoboPlayer, be sure to long press on your video and select "Soft decoding" if the video will not play. Many videos on a gingerbread ROM will require soft decoding. Also you won't be able to playback HD video on most gingerbread ROMs.
yep is because you are running 2.3.3 (gingerbread) you need to go back to 2.2 (froyo) for videos to play properly, because of hardware acceleration.
+1 for RockPlayer Lite
I use Rockplayer Lite daily. It's free (as in beer), and it works on everything I've thrown at it. Actually, I'm using it right now to play .flv videos.
Hello there XDA users!
I have a problem with viewing subtitles for movies via my MHL cable (oryginal) on TV screen.
Stock movie player shows them (.srt) but it doesn't make subtitles dissapear when the dialogue finishes (it just leave them on when nobody is talking till the next dialogue). Other movie players from market (like mVideoPlayer or QQplayer) doesn't show subtitles on TV screen at all (just on the phone screen).
I would be very thankful of Your advice.
Cheers.
Am I the only one facing this problem?
Can't find solution myself.
You are not alone in this, but apparently there are very few people (or devices ;-) ) with this particular problem. I myself have this as well. I can't imagine why this is such an "exclusive" bug. The only player from the market (that I have tried) that displays subtitles over MHL is Rock Player Lite, and only if you select software decoding mode, but then you will also have a mildly annoying logo on the upper left corner of the screen... plus it crashes a lot in my case, no idea if it'll crash to you too.
May I ask what your firmware is? Mine is 2.3.3 (XWKF3).
Thanks for Your reply.
I have Lite'ning Rom v6.1 XXKH3 and speedmod kernel K1-T30.
I didn't try Rock Player Lite as I was aware of that annoying logo. I would be very happy if I only had fix for stock player (as I consider "not disappearing" subtitles to be easier to manage, but I'm not sure).
Same here. Apparently, the MHL interface is designed to send the video feed directly, without any interface "overlay" (in this case subtitles). No "mirroring" effect, like when in the Galaxy menus etc. Rock Player achieves that only when using software mode. In hardware mode you will get no subtitles (and no logo ). After having used mVideo Player, I searched their forums, and it was mentioned that Samsung has modified their stock player to take care of that.
As I have mentioned in another post, I have tried .srt & .sub files, as well as both ANSI & Unicode encoding for the charsets (english-only and non-english). I even changed the phone language to english, hopping that it would be something this trivial. As you can imagine, the subtitles are never removed from screen and change only when a new line is to be displayed. I can't imagine that all my subtitles are defective or that there is noone else with this kind of problem.
Come on people ! What are we doing differently? I want to belong to the rest of you fine problem-free movie-watching GalaxySII-owners ...
PS: BTW, I have this problem even when viewing on the phone's screen, not just via MHL. How about you? Also, how do you transfer files on the phone?
Yes, as I posted I also have problem with not removing subtiltes till the next line on the phone screen using stock player. Thats the main problem, because i will survive with no mVideoPlayer support for MHL cable if I will be able to watch movies with properly working subtitles using stock player.
Still mVideoPlayer support would be AWESOME!
I too have noticed the problem of subtitles appearing, but not disappearing until the next subtitle appears, with the stock media player.
Am I reading the comment from Alchemius above correctly, to say that this is only a problem for some of the Galaxy S2s?
I just assumed it was a bug that needs to be sorted out in the software for all the SGS2 units out there.
Actually, this is what I am trying to figure out myself. I have asked this question in other topics as well, but apart from a couple of owners (only 2 so far !!! 3 if I include you), I get no response. Most of the SGS2 users probably use another media player (e.g. mVideoPlayer) that has no such problem, and won't notice it.
It would be pretty weird to assume that this is a problem for only a few handsets, but then again, apart from us three, nobody else is complaining. I know that the MHL API from Samsung is indeed modified, in order to send the subtitles via MHL, and I would imagine it being responsible. But as I said, noone else is complaining. And that's what worries me...
I´ve got this problem. I´m facing some crashes when some video is playing too. I think this issues is all about softwares... Maybe I´ll try to change the firmware...
My fw now is UHKE2
Im facing the same issues as mentioned here.
Thats sad as most of my movies I tried to move to watch them with the device on a big screen are DTS...
So DicePlayer works great..on the phone, on the screen its another thing.
BsPlayer, Vplayer and any others are slow.
mvideoplayer = no sound
What we've got left? isnt there any kind of mod or change to make the default player support it?
I dont buying an app for a few bucks. I tried Dice and it wasnt well.
I just want it to work..
And the built-in player isnt that great either, as the encoding isnt right. Im using hebrew subtitles and it shows only some signs.
After many attempts and tries, I can write my results:
1080P is a waste of time, as..only DicePlayer plays it excellent, the others (mvideo, built-in) require DTS conversion.
Not to mention, the need to split it with MKV...
If you wish to show the movie with the MHL its a big problem as the subtitle isnt seen on the big screen, and only the built-in kindof working...but then you need to use an external subtitle which is a mess, becauase you just splitted the movie to two files...
Its an *huge* headache, and nothing seems to work...
If only dice player could show subtitles over MHL....
other players cant even show it smooth enough.
And also, you cant run backward-forward as the sound-video isnt synced if you do.
The easiest thing you'd think of doing is adding the subtitles on the video file itself, but it would take....hours over hours..
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After many attempts and tries, I can write my results:
1080P is a waste of time, as..only DicePlayer plays it excellent, the others (mvideo, built-in) require DTS conversion.
Not to mention, the need to split it with MKV...
If you wish to show the movie with the MHL its a big problem as the subtitle isnt seen on the big screen, and only the built-in kindof working...but then you need to use an external subtitle which is a mess, becauase you just splitted the movie to two files...
Its an *huge* headache, and nothing seems to work...
If only dice player could show subtitles over MHL....
other players cant even show it smooth enough.
And also, you cant run backward-forward as the sound-video isnt synced if you do.
The easiest thing you'd think of doing is adding the subtitles on the video file itself, but it would take....hours over hours..
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There is an official discussion group for DicePlayer (linked from developer's page) here:
http://groups.google.com/group/diceplayer/topics
I suggest you start a discussion regarding subtitles over HDMI/MHL to make the developer aware of this.
Thanks, I'll give it a try, even though it seems to be pretty abondan
i've had this issue as well, but i've managed to find a pretty good substitute in Mobaplayer. it also has the option to view videos with software decode, and i don't believe it has any watermarks either. not buggy at all and hasn't crashed on me yet. also, the fonts are better than in stock player, since they use a different border color so the white text won't blend in with a white background.
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i've had this issue as well, but i've managed to find a pretty good substitute in Mobaplayer. it also has the option to view videos with software decode, and i don't believe it has any watermarks either. not buggy at all and hasn't crashed on me yet. also, the fonts are better than in stock player, since they use a different border color so the white text won't blend in with a white background.
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Well, while the stock player runs it smooth enough, MoboPlayer wont :\
I have the same problem here
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You are not alone in this, but apparently there are very few people (or devices ;-) ) with this particular problem. I myself have this as well. I can't imagine why this is such an "exclusive" bug. The only player from the market (that I have tried) that displays subtitles over MHL is Rock Player Lite, and only if you select software decoding mode, but then you will also have a mildly annoying logo on the upper left corner of the screen... plus it crashes a lot in my case, no idea if it'll crash to you too.
May I ask what your firmware is? Mine is 2.3.3 (XWKF3).
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Alchemius did you find any solution to this problem? And could you please tell me which app do you use to see movies with greek subtitles in srt format on your galaxy S2?
Hi all,
after some tests I found out that the best player is MX player. It's very similar to mvideoplayer, but has the ability to process based on software. So the subtitle problems are solved.
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Hi all,
after some tests I found out that the best player is MX player. It's very similar to mvideoplayer, but has the ability to process based on software. So the subtitle problems are solved.
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I've just tried it and the only way the subtitles will show at the TV is when you choose the software decoder. sadly, the movie is not running smoothly at all (i checked an HD 720p file).
so, still no perfect solution...
For me, I can play 720p with the built in player just fine. Its smooth enough and supports subs over mhl.
1080p is a real trouble maker as its not smooth on the builtin player.
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Hey, I just threw this up over at RootzWiki as well, but I think I may have found a working video player for CM7 Alpha 3.
All credit for the fix goes to the user that posted the modified apk, meaning: In NO WAY do I personally take any credit for this video fix for CM7 Alpha 3.
I luckily just stumbled upon it while trying to find a working player.
The apk seems to be a modified version of MX Video Player. Download the apk file here: Alpha 3 Video Fix
The user that originally posted the file is looking for feedback so try and give him some if it works for you too.
Hope this helps
what exactly is the problem with video playback? i have the non-modified MX Video Player installed and playing mp4 running hardware decoder. no problem. xvid/avi plays fine as well
I use moboplayer and it seems to work just fine also
maybe those having problems are trying to play 720p or greater on the tablet. in that case the fix isnt for me. takes too long to transfer
Ive been using moboplayer since alpha 2.1. Never had issues.
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MKV files (at least the 720p ones anyway) werent supported with hardware rendering previously in mxplayer on my touchpad/android alpha 3, will be interesting if this is what the newer version fixes.
Edit: Still doesnt support hardware rendering for 720p MKV but seems to run quite ok in software mode. Hardware rendering would be a bit smoother though no doubt, particulary for upscaling lower video res.
I copied a couple of 720p videos to my Galaxy Tab 10.1. The native video player says it can't play them. I tried a couple of other video players that generally do a good job and were able to play them using software decoding, but one had a really poor frame rate, the other ran in super slow motion.
Seems like the hardware isn't up to software decoding HD video and hardware decoding is finicky about formats?
These movies were both mpeg4 video, aac audio in a mp4 container.
When I copied them over it offered to convert them for me, but if I let it do so it seems to be very slow and would take over 9 hours. I'm sure I could do better using handbrake or something similar to recode as necessary.
But can someone summarize the requirements to get hardware accelerated decoding (or sufficiently fast software decoding) of 720p/1080p video?
Thanks.
Did you try Diceplayer and BS Player? Both are available from the Market for free (ad supported) and played all my 720p videos (most were .mkv).
I'd suggest giving them a try (you also have to download the tegra2 plugins for both players).
As for 1080p its a far cry - depending on the specific encoding options it might work fine or be really crappy. Best bet would be to re-encode the 1080p videos you want to watch on your tab, but 720p is usually manageable (and more then enough for our tab, since it's basically the resolution of our screen)
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Did you try Diceplayer and BS Player? Both are available from the Market for free (ad supported) and played all my 720p videos (most were .mkv).
I'd suggest giving them a try (you also have to download the tegra2 plugins for both players).
As for 1080p its a far cry - depending on the specific encoding options it might work fine or be really crappy. Best bet would be to re-encode the 1080p videos you want to watch on your tab, but 720p is usually manageable (and more then enough for our tab, since it's basically the resolution of our screen)
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I like how they say the tab can handle 1080p video's, But forgot to mention "it would lag like ****" Youtube apparently get's played in 720p HD whereas getting a 1080p video to play is far from possible, perhaps ICS would make it possible, for now the stock decoders are horrible, HORRIBLE. Use the stock Movie Player/Video and it's like watching Lego or Minecraft graphics. Dice Player Ad is the best out there, and the only video player I use.
Just don't forget to download the Tegra2 plugin with it (Free ofcourse).
Thanks guys. I'll give Dice Player a try and see if it does a better job. I don't usually use 1080p so as long as it can decode 720p smoothly I'd be happy.
From what I've read, it seems that Tegra 2 can't decode Mpeg4 High Profile, which probably explains why the videos I tried don't work well. I'll also try recoding them with standard profile and see if those work. But apparently, most HD video (including commercially downloaded video) is high profile encoded so the fact that the Tegra 2 can't decode those is rather pathetic. I don't want to have to code/recode everything specifically for the tablet so that's rather disappointing...
OK, gave those a try:
BS Player: Slow Motion...
Dice Player: BRILLIANT! Works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip!
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OK, gave those a try:
BS Player: Slow Motion...
Dice Player: BRILLIANT! Works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip!
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Hence the name, BS player' It's BS cause they wanna market their stuff and make people pay, Their software acceleration is horrible. Dice player uses HW Accelerator which is why the video's are intensely smooth.
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Hence the name, BS player' It's BS cause they wanna market their stuff and make people pay, Their software acceleration is horrible. Dice player uses HW Accelerator which is why the video's are intensely smooth.
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BS player also uses HW acceleration. In my experience it worked fine with most video - it has some problems in the first few seconds which Dice doesn't (since it doesn't start the video until it's loaded) but after it "warms up" it seems to work just fine for most of the stuff.
BS Player has some nice extra features like LAN mode, automatic subtitle downloading etc. But yeah, Dice player is usually better for playing movies "locally" (I'm using CIFSmanager to mount my media folder over wi-fi).
Every now and then you come across videos that Dice has problems with however, and then BS usually works (once I had a video that played at like double speed in Dice player, while the audio was normal speed. Changing the 1.0x 1.5x etc. speed settings on the right had no effect. BS player helped then ), so I keep both on my device.
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BS player also uses HW acceleration. In my experience it worked fine with most video - it has some problems in the first few seconds which Dice doesn't (since it doesn't start the video until it's loaded) but after it "warms up" it seems to work just fine for most of the stuff.
BS Player has some nice extra features like LAN mode, automatic subtitle downloading etc. But yeah, Dice player is usually better for playing movies "locally" (I'm using CIFSmanager to mount my media folder over wi-fi).
Every now and then you come across videos that Dice has problems with however, and then BS usually works (once I had a video that played at like double speed in Dice player, while the audio was normal speed. Changing the 1.0x 1.5x etc. speed settings on the right had no effect. BS player helped then ), so I keep both on my device.
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I would love to know how to get CIFSManager to work, Would be epic to sync music folders via Wifi without having to copy/update it often
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I would love to know how to get CIFSManager to work, Would be epic to sync music folders via Wifi without having to copy/update it often
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A simple search: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468498&highlight=cifs .
Basically, you have to push the cifs.ko module and then insmod it. Some ROMs (like the 3G ICS KANG) have the module included in the appropriate folder, so you can easily just modprobe it (open terminal: write "su" and then "modprobe cifs").
Then you just install CIFSmanager and set it to the appropriate IP/folder (for instance something like 192.168.1.42/Media - this would go to the comp at 192.168.1.42 and try to load up the shared folder with the name "Media").
You'll probably want to set up your router so it always gives the same IP to your media computer, as you don't want to check it's IP and change the settings every time
PS: Using cifsmanager is not without it's downsides though. I've noticed that if I turn off the wi-fi without first unmounting through the manager, the tab freezes (for about half a minute or so) when you try to show the folder containing the networked files. Mind you, I say show, not open - even just trying to see how many files are inside can lock it.
I worked around that by creating a CIFS folder on the root of the "sdcard", then extra folders inside CIFS for each mount. So I have /sdcard/CIFS/XBMC and /sdcard/CIFS/Music. Now I can safely look at my /sdcard folder without my tab freezing up (if I forget to unmount) - but if I try to open the CIFS folder it'll freeze up for a bit, then it'll give me the option to kill my file manager.
So basically, don't put the folder into which you'll mount directly on the root of your sdcard, or it'll become unusable if you forget to unmount
I used the latest VEGAn-ge-7.1.0 for the 1.2 bootloader on my gTab with CWM the other day. First time ever flashing a rom and everything went great! The problem I'm having is that the built-in video player in VEGAn will no longer play my mpeg4 movies/TV shows. With the stock ROM on the gTab I never had any problems with the built-in videoplayer OR mVideoplayer. They both worked just fine. Once I flashed VEGAn my movies wont work.
I can only assume it has something to do with hardware acceleration.?.?.?.? I have over 5tb worth of movies and tv shows already ripped from my collection, I will NOT re-encode anything at this point!
99% of what I use my gTablet for is watching movies while I'm at work(I'm on call with lots of down time) I would love to use a better ROM then the crappy TnT stuff Viewsonic shipped this thing with. But I cant NOT be able to play my mpeg4 movie files.
Is there a good ROM that will let my mpeg4's work like the stock ROM does? I dont care about any fancy features or anything in the ROM, I only watch movies on this thing and play the occasional game. But if I had a better ROM I'm sure I'd use this thing for more then what I do now.
My mpeg4 encode settings used in DVDFab are as follows:
848x480 resolution
3000kbps fixed bitrate(less then this movies can get pixelated)
128bit DolbyPrologic2 audio
FastEncoding 1 pass
These are the best settings for mpeg4's that I have found while testing out various settings when I bought the gTab. From the looks of the settings could it be that I need HW accel video playback instead of SW?
Any of the Froyo based roms such as Beastly-Clemsyn (my favorite, very fast and stable), Frankentab, BC, etc all have working hardware acceleration, as does the new ICS beta. You are probably right about the hardware accel. being the problem, this is the same reason I always end up back on a Froyo rom. I have encoded a lot of video that I stream from my main PC, and there is almost always skips, freezes or audio sync problems on roms w/o hardware acceleration.
You can also try on your current rom, MXPlayer and Mobo Player have versions that are optimized for ARM v7 (Gtablet). In the players settings, change from hardware to software video and audio decoding. Most of my videos play alright with MXPlayer on software decoding using CM7, which doesn't have hardware acceleration.
Last, you could try Qloud Media, if you have a pretty fast PC. Qloud will re-encode and stream your video from the PC, optimized for the target device. It works very well on every device I have tried it on, and can even work beyond your network, but it consumes my entire 4 CPU cores in bursts of a few seconds while it is re-encoding, so no intense PC usage while it is running.
Thank you! I'll try and stick with the Froyo based ROM's. I've DL'd quite a few different ROM's but I have yet to install any of them other then the latest VEGAn one.