I am bamf remix 1.6.2 using the standard kernel. Will juice defender improve my battery life?
I've never used it. I'm using the updated kernel 4.4.6 OC'd all the way up on demand. Really liking the battery life.
my brother swears by juice defender on his thunderbolt but i haven't used it myself FWIW
All it really does is turn off your data connection at certain times, so yes it should improve battery life. I have never used it nor do I plan on using it. I bought a smart phone so I can always be "connected", I do not want my data connection to be cut off. But hey, if you don't mind it just might help you.
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I am bamf remix 1.6.2 using the standard kernel. Will juice defender improve my battery life?
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Green Power works better for me on the Thunderbolt.
dirtyfingers said:
All it really does is turn off your data connection at certain times, so yes it should improve battery life. I have never used it nor do I plan on using it. I bought a smart phone so I can always be "connected", I do not want my data connection to be cut off. But hey, if you don't mind it just might help you.
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You practically will be connected almost all of the time with JuiceDefender. It will turn off you data when not in use, but you can set up an internval where the data will turn on for however long you want for it to sync data like email.
Juice Defender didn't always turn 3g back on for me and I had to reboot to get it back. I lose a lot of battery when I reboot so I uninstalled this app.
I do use juice plotter and love to use it to manage my battery life, see trends and find out what I can do to stretch my battery life when needed.
I use JD Ultimate and think it does more than simply disconnecting your data. For example you can reduce the amount of data you receive which has greatly improved my battery life when I mostly needed to use my phone for things that did not require a whole lot of data.
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Ken, I am currently using Juice defender on the Tbolt and have seen some improvement, more like 5 percent an hour down with medium usage versus not having juice and dropping 10-12 percent an hour.
Still nice to have the extended battery.
I'd like to give the green power a shot as Pzy suggested.
I have had good luck with JD. Only use when I'm at work or out and about when I'm not using the phones data much and need the battery to last.
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Green Power works better for me on the Thunderbolt.
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Same here. I tried juice defender and it was just OK, it added maybe an hour of usage.
But I tried the free Green Power last week and it added 4-6 hours of battery. Then I bought the full and with nightmode on, I am now at 1 day 8 hours since unplug with 23% of battery left. Display eats the lion's share, followed by phone calls.
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Same here. I tried juice defender and it was just OK, it added maybe an hour of usage.
But I tried the free Green Power last week and it added 4-6 hours of battery. Then I bought the full and with nightmode on, I am now at 1 day 8 hours since unplug with 23% of battery left. Display eats the lion's share, followed by phone calls.
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I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
Good call andy. Woot.
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I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
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I would have to agree with you being on an alpha build. Try another Rom.
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I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
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It works fine here but I am unrooted. I use the power widget and I can see the network and wifi turning on/off.
It might be CM7.
The disabling/re-enabling of radios was way too finicky for me, plus the fact that I didn't really notice anything but negligible gains in battery life.
I just bought the extended battery for $25 (got Verizon to give me a half-off discount) and called it a day.
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It's gonna depend on how you use your phone. For the most part Juice Defender will only save your battery when your screen is off and your not using your phone. However you can set it to disable the networks when certain apps are running as well. So I guess it could save you a little if you had it set up for certain apps you use a lot that don't require a network connection (i.e. games).
I have been using Juice Defender with the stripped bamf rom and kernel. When my screen is off my battery is barely used. For example I went to bed at around 12am woke up around 6am and only lost 2% of battery.
I love JD. Yea i bought a smartphone that wants to stay connected but honestly it doesnt need to. Ive probably doubled my battery life, dropping maybe 1 percent in 3hrs, MAYBE, when its idling. I really like it. It doesnt take long for 3g to enable when i need it too, and plus i can enable it from the notification bar instantly.
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
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I would also like to know this??
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
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I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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Is juice defender worth installing and if it is what are the best setting
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I think so. The defaults work very well. I have the Ultimate version, which allows it to automatically turn on WiFi in all the places I regularly manually connect. I can tell a big difference in battery life with it.
Starting using it Monday more than doubled battery life using default settings 14 hrs and 37 mins 60% left with moderate use seem great.
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Starting using it Monday more than doubled battery life using default settings 14 hrs and 37 mins 60% left with moderate use seem great.
Its Ultimate version pM me if u want it
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The free version and the Ultimate are both available in the Market. Why would he need to PM you?
I also use the smartass CPU govenor, although idk if that's available on any other phone than the HTC Aria. It gives me insane battery life, those two.
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Honestly, I don't know. I've gone a week without it and a week with it and my gains haven't been much with the Evo 3d.
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Honestly, I don't know. I've gone a week without it and a week with it and my gains haven't been much with the Evo 3d.
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During your week without, how much did you manually manage radio settings, etc.? Were you in strong signal areas? How did you measure your gains (% left at end of day, time before a certain %)? Did you standardize use patterns for the test?
I know JD doesn't necessarily do much if you always have good signal and if you manually manage radios, etc. But if you don't, then it can make a difference. How much? I'm not sure, particularly with the amount of headroom the 3D gives you if you're not a heavy user and you charge daily anyways.
Right now, I'm checking to see how much difference there is between managing the BT radio and leaving it on all day. Right now, it accounts for 3% battery usage almost 7 hours off charger, and phone's at 88% overall still.
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Starting using it Monday more than doubled battery life using default settings 14 hrs and 37 mins 60% left with moderate use seem great.
Its Ultimate version pM me if u want it
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If you're planning to give him the Ultimate verion it won't work on both phones. JD periodically checks the license so that one copy can't be run on multiple phones. I have a solution though, STOP TRYING TO GIVE AWAY PAID SOFTWARE FOR FREE!
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During your week without, how much did you manually manage radio settings, etc.? Were you in strong signal areas? How did you measure your gains (% left at end of day, time before a certain %)? Did you standardize use patterns for the test?
I know JD doesn't necessarily do much if you always have good signal and if you manually manage radios, etc. But if you don't, then it can make a difference. How much? I'm not sure, particularly with the amount of headroom the 3D gives you if you're not a heavy user and you charge daily anyways.
Right now, I'm checking to see how much difference there is between managing the BT radio and leaving it on all day. Right now, it accounts for 3% battery usage almost 7 hours off charger, and phone's at 88% overall still.
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On week days, I use my phone exactly the same way every day.
8:20am Wifi ON, BT on, GPS off, BT headset connected.
I have excellent signal, it sits in the same 3ft area at work for all the "tests".
Every "syncable" app is enabled and set to 1 hour if possible except for push gmail.
At 5:30, tasker turns WIFI off, leaves gps off, and leaves BT on.
At 6:30, WIFI on, GPS off, BT off
at 11:30, WIFI off, GPS off, BT off
Repeat procedure Every day
Any variation, Wifi goes off and use cell for data. But if I'm in Wifi range, I'll use it over cell since it's so much faster.
I'll say tho, I've had better battery life with this than I've had with prev phones. Evo, Evo shift, TP2, Pre.
I never use the 4g as it's pretty weak in my area.
I suspect that my use of tasker to automate the radio functions is probably negating what JD would do for me
Never mind just trying to be nice
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I suspect that my use of tasker to automate the radio functions is probably negating what JD would do for me
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Sounds about right. You're way more organized in using Tasker than I am, and I suspect JD would be pretty redundant if I set up Tasker with more detail. I like JD because it is kind of "fire and forget" without extensive setup.
I do, however, like the periodic checks JD can do. I think Tasker could do the same, but I never tried.
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I'm not 100% sure about it on the 3D but I used it on my Evo 4g and barely noticed a difference. I'm guessing it'll be the same way with the 3D.
Does juice defender affect the phone performance
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ira9700 said:
Starting using it Monday more than doubled battery life using default settings 14 hrs and 37 mins 60% left with moderate use seem great.
Its Ultimate version pM me if u want it
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Pm me that man!!
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I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
Personally, I dont use anything extra and my phone gets GREAT battery life
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Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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I used my phone moderately with some email usage, calls and a few games and i got about 13 hours of battery life and had about 6% battery juice left to spare. How are you getting som much battery life? Did you do anything with the Sprint Bloatware? Did you uninstall some apps or freeze the. P
Thanks in advance....
I use Y5 to auto enable/disable my WiFi connections. Keeps the phone on Wifi as much as possible and I don't have to mess with it.
Juice defender does that. Before I had wifi constantly on, gps, 4g and battery wasnt what id expect. I mean ive never had it die on me yet but close. No frills controls clock speed depending on how much I need. Since ive installed juice and no frills battery is way better.
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depends on what im doing. If i plan to be using my phone in and out of my pocket alot, ill have juice defender turned on.
if i know im going to be talking alot that day, texting and not much need for internet, then ill just leave my 3g widget off for mobile network.
other then that, the phone has great battery life.
I must say, on my evo i got super annal about having full charge and wanting to keep charging it all the time. I swear id get an uneasy feeling in my stomach if it went below 50%. when i first got this phone and had the 10% marks instead of the 1% marks, my brain about blew up and i didnt know what to do! lol
but now ive began to like the 10% marks bc im not as annal about wanting to plug my phone in bc now i dont see the amount it dropped in the last few minutes.
in all.. i guess this phone was made for me, or like the windows 7 people "my name is logan, and i invented the photon"
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I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using/trying juice defender and have it set on balanced. It says I save about 1.5% every day. I have to email accounts syncing, text about 50 a day and use about 10min of internet and I was down to 40% in 9hrs. This was with out make a phone call today. Juice defender doesn't seem to really help anything.
I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I was just noticing the brightness of the Photon's screen last night just before fallin asleep. My evo on 0% was DARK in a dark room, but at 100% in the sun you couldnt see. The photon seems to be in a different ballpark. 0% it still looks super bright and 100% is WOW a light in the sky.
when i look at when my battery is being drained the most, its def when that screen is on. i think a rom or theme with black/night colors will def help out because the bright colors of white are probably not any aid to the battery conservation.
yesterday i kept juice defender off all day. got 14 hours and 37 minutes till it hit the 30% mark and the icon changed colors. i had about 2 hours of web surfing, about 3 hours of total call time, and about 150 texts and almost a dozen MMS. (buddy just picked up a new chocolate lab puppy )
so im impressed. i def agree, looks like juice defender is not a good fit for the phone yet. the toggling radios on and off probably kills alot of power.
I have to agree, Juice Defender doesn't seem to be doing much. I get around 1.47-1.6 with JuiceDefender.
Other than that I run SetCPU with my profiles set up.
I some times when I am at work use a custom battery setting which pots screen at lowest and disables data during peak hours after 45 minutes of inactivity. It works great especially when I am at work and have some longer breaks between checking my phone. I also work and live right next to a sprint tower so I always have great coverage.
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I still need to use juice defender ultimate for about a week to get a good history from it but right now im at almost 19hrs to full battery drain.
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Juice Defender, 36-38 hours before switching to 2nd battery.
Set to sync all every 1 hour. Twitter, corporate mail, 2 gmails, corp calender, contacts, etc.
The main difference is I set the screen to off in Juice Defender under toggles, not to trigger the data on just because I pulled the phone out and turned the screen on, doesn't mean I want to get on the web. I can easily pull up local info w/o that. In the morning, and in the evening, wifi is on for 30 mins or less each time to download podcasts on doggcatcher.
Lots of texts, calls , 150+ emails delivered a day, plenty of app usage, plenty of google.com searches. Maybe 1-2 app updates a day. Audio and video usage around 3-4 hrs daily.
I can go to work at 7:20 in the morning, get off at 5-5:30, and my batt stats are 75% left. Am usually sitting at 60-65% left by that 12th hour.
Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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If you have root I would say autokiller memory optimizer. Has some cool features.
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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Well said. My advice is just find a cheep aftermarket battery and keep it handy just in case.
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Why buy juice defender when the photon has these features built in. Just go to battery mode and chose "Maximum battery saver". After 15 mins it will turn off all syncing activity. Also when you're not using your phone turn off syncing completely it really helps your phone last 10-15 hours easily. I'm a very heavy user so while I'm at work I just turn off sync! Plus I also received a replacement battery from Motorola because my original battery had problems. I couldn't get more than 8 hours with the first battery (maybe defective) so they sent new one.
I agree with the post on people claiming 20-30 hrs.. they flat out dont google and drool over theyre screen all day.. like most others do though.. that is why batt life is always always will be a huge issue!
Nothing ever really will help kernels.. roms ...juice def..undervolting.. it really
dont make the huge diff people expect..
Samsung has about the best batt life youll find on an android device.. with the exception of a few devices.. dual core affects alot more than a noticeable benifit!
Only real option to date is a EXTENDED BATTERY!
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Some one just tonite asked me how I can possibly get 15+ hours on a single charge using my new Amaze 4G. Just to give you a bit of background, since having the vibrant and the unofficial leaks of Froyo that popped up here and there I was always looking to improve my battery life in every which way while not comprimising my user experiance. For those that dont know, the Vibrant was stuck on Eclair for a really really long time and we resorted to building Froyo roms using the i9000 source which for some reason killed battery like you would believe. After weeks of playing and testing I came to a few generic tips that seem to drastically help (beyond the obvious things you normally would expect).
This is what I personally do and have found to work, you take them or leave them makes no differance to me whatsoever, just friendly suggestions.
The Super Duper Number 1 thing I've found to HUGELY improve my battery life was instead of using gsm (4g/3g/edge) I use Wifi whenever possible. Most of my time is spent at home or work where I have routers. For whatever reason using wifi is less taxing on the battery then gsm. Also changing the wifi sleep policy to never will add to this.
Since i spend most my day inside i keep my brightness relatively low. I do not use auto brightness unless I really need to.
Obviously I keep my gps off unless I absolutely need it.
Sense has some neat power saving features to help with sync settings at certain times... i.e. during my sleeping time, it automatically change my sync to every 2 hours rather then every 15 min like its typically set to during the day.
The few steps above have helped me acheive 15+ hours on a single charge. Some other things that should help even more would be:
Limit the number of widgets you run (especially the ones that constantly update)
Dont use Live Wallpaper
Extend your sync intervals on email and social apps... instead of every 10 move to every 20
make sure when you are away from wifi you turn your wifi off
If you are in an area with poor coverage (especially 4g) turn your data to edge only
Not sure about LCD but on my samoled keeping screen colors to darkest possible (black wallpapers, etc) helps conserve a bit
Change you timeout setting to the lowest you can stand possible (15sec, 30sec)
Avoid task killer apps... let the system do its job or use the built in task killer for those apps you wish to close. (I know the verdict is out on whether they help or not, but I believe using auto app killers does more damage then good, they were designed for old android versions that didnt function the way GB does now)
That's it for now... if I can remember or think of any more I will def post. Like I said you can take or leave my advice. Please do me one favor.... if you DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE TO ADD THEN KEEP YOUR NEGATIVTY TO YOURSELF. It makes for a happier forum! Thanks
how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
I've heard this also WiFi + radio drains more than just radio unless you have a crappy connection then you are better.off with wifi. Gr8 guide tho .... Use less sync people the weather is the same as it was 2h ago.... Unless its raining
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WiFi barely uses any battery. I can 24 hours out my amaze with only WiFi. 4G is a real battery drain
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This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
Bigv69er said:
how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
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drag down the notification tab click on quick settings click on total memory.
Radio by itself drains more battery then using wifi + radio... trust me i've been doing it for 2+ years. also had all my team mates do the same and they all confirmed a huge boost in battery. as long as you are CONNECTED to a wifi router it will not drain. now if you leave the wifi and keep it on along with radio on, that will totally demolish your battery. its the constant searching on both parts that eats the most battery. if youre solid connected... its no longer searching.
I did all that and then some and my battery shows 120 to 200 MA in standby . I used to have htc hd2 and it had 3 to 5 MA in standby . I don't know what to disable anymore , Or is this normal for this phone ?
Juice Defender is the best way to conserve battery on any android phone.... try it out on the app market. doing all these other tips you mentioned does help very little. but if you wish to have your battery last a lot longer then Juice Defender is the way to go...
Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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daswahnsinn said:
This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
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I was going to post the same thing, and found this here - lol. I have been trying this for a few days already.
I will add some minor modifications though. The above was done when devices and batteries were smaller. The 8 hours might be enough - see if the light changes from amber to green by then (or the battery indicator) - otherwise wait.
Then also wait on the 1st 1 hour charge while off if the light is still amber at one hour - wait until it is green. Ditto on the second one.
I did it just like the original above, and when I turned my phone on at the end - it was at 93%, so I plugged it in until it hit 100% for a while, disconnected, and then did a battery calibration (APP) at 100%
Again - I think with the bigger battery it takes longer. on a MT4G, the light was green at the end of each hour (smaller battery).
I have seen a significant improvement - and I already had battery saving profiles set up with SETCPU. I may do it one more time the way I modified it above.
PS - I always get better life on WiFi (If connected). Also, a friend lives in a weak (data) signal area, and when not on WiFi, keeping it on 2g (edge) really upped her life on a MT4G
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Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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If anyone else is interested, you can get JuiceDefender Ultimate from the Amazon App Store for $1.99 right now.
Yeah i just got that one earlier
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I mainly posted that for proof of concept. The only way I ever got what I wanted out of a battery was through SBC kernels. That's one reason way I am leaving the Evo and switching to the Amaze, outside of the crap Sprint puts customers through.
Is the Ultimate app worth it?
Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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trizzle21 said:
Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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x2 on that... It really gives you a longer battery life. and having 2 batteries also extends the life to 24 hours + of not having to sit and wait for a full charged battery.
If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
I was using Ultimate v. 3.80, tried it on my girlfriend's phone (she was using the free version before I installed the ultimate), started force closing too (she was about to kill me haha)... Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315494
P.s. Juice Defender team said the problem occurs with Plus and Ultimate because they use API call, which is incompatible with Android compatibility test suite... Im just saying all this so if people start getting these launcher force closes after restart, not to freak out and just uninstall it...
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iGoOsE76 said:
Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
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Me either since i switched to ultimate.. Works better cuz you can customize.. The free one hust kills whatever is power hungry
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i remembered there was a flashable zip to make the battery life better, but I can't seem to find it.
anyways what i've done so far is put the brightness to low, turn off gps , put the animations to .5 , sync emails every 2 hours , only have one widget running , installed the latest faux kernel .
It helped a bit , but nothing too noticeable. Any more things i can do to make it better? any tweaks or anything?
which rom are you usingg?? turn off auto sync, disable check for update.. also your battery can wear out over time, can purchase new battery... most people recommend anker battery,
Batterylife: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...m_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
Amazon Page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B0053EZJMC
i never tried it i wouldnt know but most people recommend it..
kevinrubio1 said:
i remembered there was a flashable zip to make the battery life better, but I can't seem to find it.
anyways what i've done so far is put the brightness to low, turn off gps , put the animations to .5 , sync emails every 2 hours , only have one widget running , installed the latest faux kernel .
It helped a bit , but nothing too noticeable. Any more things i can do to make it better? any tweaks or anything?
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I'm using juice defender with good success. NRG ROM has pretty good battery life anyway (compared to stock).
stevedebi said:
I'm using juice defender with good success. NRG ROM has pretty good battery life anyway (compared to stock).
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i always felt like JuiceDefender killed the battery more than conserving it. Along with everything else thats been stated, I usually use System Tuner to lower the clock speed when the screen is off, helps save battery when idle.
snowlin said:
i always felt like JuiceDefender killed the battery more than conserving it. Along with everything else thats been stated, I usually use System Tuner to lower the clock speed when the screen is off, helps save battery when idle.
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It did not seem to work with my HD2, and I did not use it originally with my Ruby. But now it seems to work fine. I mostly use it to turn off the mobile modem (seems to be my biggest battery drain) except when the screen is off and once per hour to sync my various programs. Using this configuration I can last all day, even with my cheaper replacement batteries.
But nothing is going to make the device go if one is keeping the screen on (like gaming). 3-4 hours max in that setting, and I still carry two spare batteries for those times my son gets his hands on the device.
iKilla said:
which rom are you usingg?? turn off auto sync, disable check for update.. also your battery can wear out over time, can purchase new battery... most people recommend anker battery,
Batterylife: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...m_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
Amazon Page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B0053EZJMC
i never tried it i wouldnt know but most people recommend it..
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NRG's stock rom
stevedebi said:
It did not seem to work with my HD2, and I did not use it originally with my Ruby. But now it seems to work fine. I mostly use it to turn off the mobile modem (seems to be my biggest battery drain) except when the screen is off and once per hour to sync my various programs. Using this configuration I can last all day, even with my cheaper replacement batteries.
But nothing is going to make the device go if one is keeping the screen on (like gaming). 3-4 hours max in that setting, and I still carry two spare batteries for those times my son gets his hands on the device.
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I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of... And I don't use juice defender and I am using teamvipers sense 4.1 rom and i have around 180 user apps installed on my phone. I just don't use data but my wifi is on all the time (don't have a data plan) and I play temple run and empire defense a lot hence high screen on time. Major thing about the rom I'm using is that it's very efficient when idle. I also keep my capacitative button lights off permanently as I think that also helps my battery life. Only downside is that I don't have working bluetooth in this rom
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hatlesssandman said:
I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of...
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Well, yours is unique. Most people have pretty poor battery life. I've had 3 Amazes and all of them really drained the battery when the screen was on. However, as I said, my GSM modem is what really drains the device as well. If you live near a cell tower or in a downtown area with good T-Mobile, the modem won't "hunt" and will deliver better life.
Also, the stock battery is the best, in my experience.
hatlesssandman said:
I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of... And I don't use juice defender and I am using teamvipers sense 4.1 rom and i have around 180 user apps installed on my phone. I just don't use data but my wifi is on all the time (don't have a data plan) and I play temple run and empire defense a lot hence high screen on time. Major thing about the rom I'm using is that it's very efficient when idle. I also keep my capacitative button lights off permanently as I think that also helps my battery life. Only downside is that I don't have working bluetooth in this rom
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That's hand down the best battery life i've seen on this phone
stevedebi said:
Well, yours is unique. Most people have pretty poor battery life. I've had 3 Amazes and all of them really drained the battery when the screen was on. However, as I said, my GSM modem is what really drains the device as well. If you live near a cell tower or in a downtown area with good T-Mobile, the modem won't "hunt" and will deliver better life.
Also, the stock battery is the best, in my experience.
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I am actually on vacation and using aunt's sim who lives in new York and i live in Wisconsin (Marshfield) and t mobile doesn't exist here literally I am always using at&t signal and I have relatively spotty signals but yes I am not using data as my aunt doesn't have data plan so that also contributes to better battery and I live in a very rural area (there are more cows out here than humans...)
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Can you guys tell me the battery life in 2g network.
Subin khan said:
Can you guys tell me the battery life in 2g network.
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2g doesn't really drain too much battery, but it's still always a good idea to turn data off when you don't need it. The rest depends on the rom you are using but again there is no set number... From what I have read I am an odd ball with the battery life (and am not complaining). I assume you live in karachi? It's not even worth it to pay for 2g...I read somewhere that 3g will finally be rolling out to mobile networks in Pakistan in 2013...but we'll see...
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1. Turn down screen brightness, screen kills the battery on the amaze more than anything else
2. Turn off automatic sync, this is very helpful
3. If you're on a JB ROM then turn off google now, this will stretch your battery life significantly.