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i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
It never ceases to amaze me that people don't have a crystal clear understanding of what they are doing before they go flashing custom ROMS. Why would you even think about putting on a specific ROM unless you knew how to revert back if it dorked up?
ikanep said:
i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
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Vibrant Android Developement Forum -> Vibrant Directory (Bible) Thread... lots of paths to stock.
WOW!! I'm not going to roast you but come on man. Did you read the OP of the froyo thread? Then you wait till after you flash to worry about how to get back???
I'm going to assume by your post that you didn't do a nandroid so it looks like your only option is to ODIN back to stock. Just search it.
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It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
ikanep said:
i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
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Follow steps 2-4 in the link below
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php...pps-*-everything&p=11409&viewfull=1#post11409
keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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Because his is an unneeded question. If he would do a search or read the sickies he would not need to ask this question. Otherwise there wouldn't be stickies.
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keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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We help those who first help themselves. 30 seconds in the development forum would get him the answers he needs. Posting a request for help without first attempting to find an answer on your own is extremely lazy. They're just asking the regulars to do all the heavy lifting for them. "Yeah, I flashed a ROM after doing almost no research and I don't like it. It looks like there's 27 different posts with step by step instructions on how to reverse it, but it's so much easier to just start a 28th post and ask for help. Also, could one of y'all take a plane flight to my hovel in Bangkok where I live and work Odin for me? I'll be in the tub eating takeout food. When you're done, it'd be great if you could come on up the stairs and feed me, and perhaps do something with these curtains?"
The reason you have trouble finding useful information is because your search results get clogged up with people starting threads asking questions answered in other threads. Sometimes in threads on the same page as the one their making. Sometimes with titles that are nearly identical to theirs. These people get flamed because they're part of the problem, not the solution, and after the 9,000th time you see a new thread titled "Kies broke my phone" or "How do I get into recovery?" or "What bootloader do I need for CM7?", you start to get a little batty.
There will be no fighting with anyone in this forum, its only to vent your anger here. I will start.
I try to help people by reading through the forum but everyday real problems are over shadowed by people asking what is the best way to root their thunderbolt....every day that shortly followed by how much they searched for this subject when if you simply search on Google Thunderbolt+root method you will find you answer, if you can't find Google, do a Bing search on it or askjoe.com
Second why are all these new guys over clocking to 1.9 and expect their phone to be stable? Don't they read the forum of the kernel they flashed? Or just rush to general or q&a and post freezing problems. People you will get very good support if you post in the kernel you use or Rom your kernel came with the developers keep their eyes on that thread.
When did thunderbolt general become Verizon support if you have a network drop, don't make a thread for each city it is down in, call Verizon don't think every issue has to do with a radio or your kernel or your Rom.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
aah - hahahaha!!! great idea for thread. how about the idiotic post like :
"down loading now... "
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My personal favorites (not in any particular order) :
1. Lol/Lmao;
2. What is the best ROM; and
3. Just rooted what now?
Arrgh!
"It works great for me / works for me, thanks" (in reply to a new update of something) (use the "thanks" button ffs)
"How do I install this? (install directions mentioned in the OP)"
"This alpha/beta/testing software sure is buggy / why is feature x broken in this? (broken issue mentioned in the OP for said software) (followed by vague description/no description of what is broken without a logcat by user asking question)"
"What's the best ROM / Rooting Method?"
"Help! I installed a non-root user RUU on top of my rooted phone"
"When will we get x / what is the eta for x?" (x = gingerbread|ics|next phone|new rom|etc)
Asking a question already answered in the stickied common questions / noob guide in the Q/A forum.
Go look at the PRL thread in the Incredible General forum. I get reamed out and called every name in the book.... But I was the only one that produced an answer! I'm about to the point of letting these idiots twist in the wind. I'm tired of fools that can't find the answers that are basically fed to them. And if a mod has a problem with that frustration, oh well... Do the right thing and ban stupid, not me.
I like when someone throws an off topic question in a thread and others bite. Then if you are interested in the original topic you have to filter through all the garbage to see if any progress or good information was actually posted.
Stratejaket said:
I like when someone throws an off topic question in a thread and others bite. Then if you are interested in the original topic you have to filter through all the garbage to see if any progress or good information was actually posted.
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or asking about how to fix an issue that was asked just 2-3 pages back when it really shouldn't be asked in the topic thread at all (post it separately in q/a). This is why developers don't reply to their threads much. They just get to be a mess and they give up.
I just ignore those.... It's easy, everyone should try it !
How do I get better battery life? Beating a dead horse.
The one I like is when they ask...
Hey has anyone tried Imo's yet...does it work? Does anyone know if it works?
I don't know, why don't YOU load it and tell us?????
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The one I like is when they ask...
Hey has anyone tried Imo's yet...does it work? Does anyone know if it works?
I don't know, why don't YOU load it and tell us?????
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The thought "help those who help themselves" always comes to mind when I see those posts !
Ya my other favorite one is when they ask which rom is the best.
I feel like asking them, so if I tell you to jump off a bridge will you do it?
If not, they why would you take what I say as the best rom as the gospel?
Roms are such a subjective thing. Some people like some things some like others.
My first Android phone was a G1, so I was pretty used to the "stock" experience. Even when I rooted, I stuck pretty much with Cyanogen.
When I got the bolt and realized Cyanogen was not really "available", I got into BAMF and I gotta tell you, they did a pretty impressive job with sense.
Before I would have just laughed at someone if they said sense was the way to go, but I really kinda like it now. So I know that even my viewpoint has changed somewhat.
I don't understand why these people cannot just go out and make up their own mind about which rom they like by just flashing them and trying them out. If they don't like it, they just nandroid back to what you had before they flashed the new rom.
I wonder if they all look like lemmings? Hmmmm.
I get so tired of people running AOSP ROMs creating new topics and stating in just about every AOSP ROM thread that they can't get a lock on their GPS...
Drunk texted from my CM7 Bolt
[RANT]Agreed. Google is my best friend. If I don't know how to do something when I cook my Rom, Google. When I need to know something about linux, Google.
STOP ASKING WHAT THE BEST ROM! THERE ISN'T A BEST ROM!!
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Kite edit: </troll>
Grnlantern79 said:
There will be no fighting with anyone in this forum, its only to vent your anger here. I will start.
I try to help people by reading through the forum but everyday real problems are over shadowed by people asking what is the best way to root their thunderbolt....every day that shortly followed by how much they searched for this subject when if you simply search on Google Thunderbolt+root method you will find you answer, if you can't find Google, do a Bing search on it or askjoe.com
Second why are all these new guys over clocking to 1.9 and expect their phone to be stable? Don't they read the forum of the kernel they flashed? Or just rush to general or q&a and post freezing problems. People you will get very good support if you post in the kernel you use or Rom your kernel came with the developers keep their eyes on that thread.
When did thunderbolt general become Verizon support if you have a network drop, don't make a thread for each city it is down in, call Verizon don't think every issue has to do with a radio or your kernel or your Rom.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
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Deal with it?
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I just ignore those.... It's easy, everyone should try it !
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This will always be the best way to deal with it. A lot of things that happen on XDA drive me nuts but it is what it is. If you don't like it ignore it. This forum is like the rest of the world, a few people that get it and a bunch that don't. Raise your kids, tip your waitresses, move on with life.
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lrs421 said:
This will always be the best way to deal with it. A lot of things that happen on XDA drive me nuts but it is what it is. If you don't like it ignore it. This forum is like the rest of the world, a few people that get it and a bunch that don't. Raise your kids, tip your waitresses, move on with life.
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Gotta give that a +1. Move on and ignore it.
I really think more people should go out of their way to make stupid people feel and look stupid.
People who post a question then an hour or 2 later say "so no one wants to help". This isn't a chatroom, people don't just wait around on the boards all day to answer questions.
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loonatik78 said:
I really think more people should go out of their way to make stupid people feel and look stupid.
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- stupid people
+ iphone users
same thing
How stable is the build for sgs2? Anyone tried it yet?
You can check its thread over the original development section.
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You can check its thread over the original development section.
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Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
Lolwow, that actually made me laugh, seriously, totally talented phrasing there.
On the matter of the OP:
I haven't tried myself yet (I hope that doesn't rule me out as a potential "may reply guy"), but from what I have gathered so far it's flagged "experimental".
UI stuff mostly works, some other things (like making a call) sometimes work and then don't again.
Definitaly not "daily use" capable, but a very good impression of the work that is already done and to see that work is heading into the right direction.
They say they'll be "stable" around Jan./Feb., so being a coder myself I'd rather think of March / April (NOT meant badly, I just know the countless unforseen reasons a project gets delayed!).
And if you are not as lazy as some of the members here you should aleast read the Op or the first and last 10 pages of the thread you worthless dumbass.. You're so lazy you won't read atleast the OP or last pages to see how it is? I was just telling you to look at the f**cking thread because an immature dumbass child owning a smartphone like you wouldn't have read atleast the thread pertaining to the fuc**ng topic dumbass..
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HellcatDroid said:
Lolwow, that actually made me laugh, seriously, totally talented phrasing there.
On the matter of the OP:
I haven't tried myself yet (I hope that doesn't rule me out as a potential "may reply guy"), but from what I have gathered so far it's flagged "experimental".
UI stuff mostly works, some other things (like making a call) sometimes work and then don't again.
Definitaly not "daily use" capable, but a very good impression of the work that is already done and to see that work is heading into the right direction.
They say they'll be "stable" around Jan./Feb., so being a coder myself I'd rather think of March / April (NOT meant badly, I just know the countless unforseen reasons a project gets delayed!).
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Thanks for the honest answer. I was interested in CM9 mainly as a daily driver, since I only have one phone.
As for the Q1 timeline, I have heard from Cyanogen himself and from Samsung that their timeline is similar. I am, of course, near morbidly curious about hardware acceleration on the UI without a Samsung-based kernel.
Please excuse an old man while he brushes up on patience.
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And if you are not as lazy as some of the members here you should aleast read the Op or the first and last 10 pages of the thread you worthless dumbass.. You're so lazy you won't read atleast the OP or last pages to see how it is? I was just telling you to look at the f**cking thread because an immature dumbass child owning a smartphone like you wouldn't have read atleast the thread pertaining to the fuc**ng topic dumbass..
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Here's my summary of the OP after I have read it:
1. Experimental.
2. Install using CWM, with addons.
3. No bug reports; dev not bothering anyway.
4. Logcat, or GTFO.
That should cover the basics.
Last ten pages summary:
1. Volume problem when headset connected.
2. Volume hack presented, although quite "dirty" as represented by the author.
3. Various other complaints/answers and going off-tangent.
I suppose there are other issues I might add, but the first two points seem to discuss this issue quite a lot. Also, the OP was updated to include said volume hack.
Of course, your answers were quite rage-induced, so I'd like to ask you to calm down and think about what you're saying. Even my twelve-year-old son does better than calling others "immature child" and using the f-word when he feels threatened. That is despite me allowing him unfettered access to Call of Duty multiplayer.
Yeah yeah was not in a good mood already and then i read your somewhat sarcastic reply.. Sorry for what i said and you should'nt answer people like that.. I did reply to you answer (1st one) in a proper way and not a sort of know it all read the op etc type.. Anyway, a new leak will be out this new year (from sammobile) and maybr devs can work on it to minimize the bugs so i'd suggest to wait for the next version..
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skyhammer said:
Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
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this is not a good way to start
people may just never going to reply to you with this attitude.
anyway, to answer your questions:
1. i tried the second built, not the 3rd one (just downloaded)
2. it's almost usable, but still a lot of bugs here and there (volume when you connect the headphones, signal lost on some networks, default sms app crashing).
If you don't mind an "almost working but amazing" phone, then go ahead, else i would suggest you to wait another couple of builds at least.
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Yeah yeah was not in a good mood already and then i read your somewhat sarcastic reply.. Sorry for what i said and you should'nt answer people like that.. I did reply to you answer (1st one) in a proper way and not a sort of know it all read the op etc type.. Anyway, a new leak will be out this new year (from sammobile) and maybr devs can work on it to minimize the bugs so i'd suggest to wait for the next version..
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I'd gather as much from the G+ pages and the official news from Samsung.
Take wisdom from those who travelled down the painful path; anger does not help in any way.
AlexMagik said:
this is not a good way to start
people may just never going to reply to you with this attitude.
anyway, to answer your questions:
1. i tried the second built, not the 3rd one (just downloaded)
2. it's almost usable, but still a lot of bugs here and there (volume when you connect the headphones, signal lost on some networks, default sms app crashing).
If you don't mind an "almost working but amazing" phone, then go ahead, else i would suggest you to wait another couple of builds at least.
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Thank you for your reply. I suppose that rules it out for me, as I need my smartphone to make up for my age-induced frailties.
skyhammer said:
I'd gather as much from the G+ pages and the official news from Samsung.
Take wisdom from those who travelled down the painful path; anger does not help in any way.
Thank you for your reply. I suppose that rules it out for me, as I need my smartphone to make up for my age-induced frailties.
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sammobile which is the former samfirmware which is the source of leaked firmwares here on xda..
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skyhammer said:
Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
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Be careful about that! I found that when I try and point out how pointless (and angry) the majority of posts here are, my threads get closed with a sarcastic comment!
Good question though!
skyhammer said:
How stable is the build for sgs2? Anyone tried it yet?
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jbarol said:
Good question though!
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Yeah, it's brilliant. It's original, thoughtful, deep and never been asked or answered before.
To the OP, get off your high horse. You've been given the most useful answer in the 2nd post. If you're not willing to even read through a thread yourself, you deserve all the flaming you get.
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Be careful about that! I found that when I try and point out how pointless (and angry) the majority of posts here are, my threads get closed with a sarcastic comment!
Good question though!
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From what I know about forums, it's usually power-tripping moderators and admins who can't get it elsewhere. But I'm sure XDA's staff are fair and just.
oinkylicious said:
Yeah, it's brilliant. It's original, thoughtful, deep and never been asked or answered before.
To the OP, get off your high horse. You've been given the most useful answer in the 2nd post. If you're not willing to even read through a thread yourself, you deserve all the flaming you get.
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Well, something I've learned here: Didn't you read this entire thread?
I've read the CyanogenMod 9 thread, have proven that I've read it, and I believe it is impossible for any sane person to have read the entire thread. I'm here seeking opinions, of which yours is entirely unwelcome especially considering you didn't provide any. Why don't you try to get on a horse before talking to me, so that I don't have to stoop so low?
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I'm here seeking opinions, of which yours is entirely unwelcome especially considering you didn't provide any. Why don't you try to get on a horse before talking to me, so that I don't have to stoop so low?
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Sure.
If you don't want my opinion, how about one of the (currently) 1,125 posts in the relevant thread, of people who didn't feel the need to create a new one?
What if the several hundred people in there each decided to post an awesome thread like your own? What if they too didn't like or want the opinions of the others in that thread, rather specific people who have tested it (wait, what, isn't that what you're likely to find in there?).
I have indeed read this thread, and I stand by my answer. You were given the most useful answer in the 2nd post, which was to look at the relevant thread. In case you're struggling to find it, lemme help you out
[ROM][IML74K][4.0.3] CyanogenMod 9 experimental Build [UNSTABLE][12-29-2011].
Oh, and the clue is in the title and first post:
UNSTABLE
THIS ROM IS FAR AWAY FROM BEING A DAILY DRIVER.
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I was interested in CM9 mainly as a daily driver, since I only have one phone.
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Sure.
If you don't want my opinion, how about one of the (currently) 1,125 posts in the relevant thread, of people who didn't feel the need to create a new one?
What if the several hundred people in there each decided to post an awesome thread like your own? What if they too didn't like or want the opinions of the others in that thread, rather specific people who have tested it (wait, what, isn't that what you're likely to find in there?).
I have indeed read this thread, and I stand by my answer. You were given the most useful answer in the 2nd post, which was to look at the relevant thread. In case you're struggling to find it, lemme help you out
[ROM][IML74K][4.0.3] CyanogenMod 9 experimental Build [UNSTABLE][12-29-2011].
Oh, and the clue is in the title and first post:
UNSTABLE
THIS ROM IS FAR AWAY FROM BEING A DAILY DRIVER.
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Sure, I'll read it once you have gone through all 1,000+ posts there. I'm sure we'll all gain some insight, once you've gotten past your passive-aggressive inclinations and complete ineptitude when it comes to answering questions directly and keeping silent when having little to nothing to contribute to a discussion. I'm sure you're a well-adjusted person if I should ever meet you face to face and you enjoy great success in life.
By the bye, I would also like to congratulate your abilities in stating the obvious when providing the link to the topic. I'm sure I couldn't have found it without your assistance. Great effort.
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I'm sure I couldn't have found it without your assistance. Great effort.
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Yet overlooked it when deciding to make a new thread, when you're looking for a daily driver? Keep going, I'm enjoying this.
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Keep going, I'm enjoying this.
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Obligatory TWSS here. Thanks for the laughter.
On a more serious note, I have suddenly realized that the current generation of internet users couldn't discern point blank sarcasm or is a masochist.
I would make a Nandroid backup and give it a go, I;m flitting between this and 2 other backups, and i found it to be quite stable, a few niggly bits here and there but overall it was usable.
Requesting lock on this idiotic thread
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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RatusNatus said:
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
RatusNatus said:
Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Someone had to outline it
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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AFAIK camera is broken in all new KitKat roms. If you need working cameras use Jelly Bean or ICS builds.
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Odysseus1962 said:
Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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"bit and bites"...
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I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Odysseus1962 said:
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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pbergonzi said:
I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
Bugaman said:
Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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Bugaman said:
Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat. If I (someone with no formal IT training and a HS diploma from 30 years ago) can figure this out in my off-time, between dealing with work, and my family, what's your excuse? All you had to do was look at my profile before speaking out of the wrong orifice, and you'd know this.
It appears you're even less capable than I gave you credit for in my previous post, since you show a proclivity for being unable to read or do research, and have wedged your foot so far into you mouth that it's impossible to extricate. I've forgotten more than you've ever learned (obviously not a high bar to leap over). Unlike yourself, I contribute here towards providing useful info and help to others who're willing to help themselves. Hence, my high ratio of thanks to posts in a short time here. You, on the other hand, have never provided one bit of useful information in your much longer time on the board (which is easily verified by searching your previous posts).
I don't pretend to be smarter than you, I know I am! That's because I have enough common sense to know my abilities and limitations, something you obviously lack. You seem to have selected an apropos handle, "Insectman." So by all means, obliviously continue along in your vacuous ways, and slither back into the damp crevice you were hiding in. Have a nice day!!!!
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat.
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You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
sam_conrad said:
You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
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I'm sorry, he's rude? LOL Bruh, look at his thanks meter. He's HELPING people. He knows his stuff, so he deserves to have an ego. ESPECIALLY since he built his own ROM.
But I guess you're too fat headed yourself to be humble and accept the fact that this thread could have been avoided if the OP had just read the changelog. Let's face it, if by some mishap the OP had bricked his device he'd be crying for help (just like I did) and I know for a fact that I didn't read anything before (cause I was stupid, and I can acknowledge the fact that I used to be ignorant and now I take the time to read through the forums properly before I post unnecessarily, and Ody here has helped me a great deal.)
So before you go calling people rude and judge them prematurely, take a minute to really think about what you want to post.
PS. he did apologize, so I see no need for you to be bashing him still. I, on the other hand, don't give a damn.
I'm bored, so I went through the Q&A
Remind me not to do this again.
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
Did you maked backup of your last rom
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
backup?
jitz_ said:
DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
Odysseus1962 said:
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
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This is a much more noble reply. While you're extremely helpful to the community, and I never disagreed that you are, it's no excuse to be an ass. There is never a "deserving right" to be rude in any case. In my world, at least, the people treat each other with respect or they're gone. I know that I don't have time to deal with people that don't want to move forward and get along. Regardless of how stupid some peers might seem, or how smart one may believe he/she is, I think showing some humility and always staying grounded goes a long way.
I often tell people that some of the world's greatest minds are the dumbest of us all - some of your behavior represented why. When we're in an advantaged position of knowledge, we should encourage others to learn from us, not the other way around.
@Darin_Ram - no need to throw personal jabs at me, trying to tell me I'm full of myself (or "fat headed"), please and thank you. I don't claim to be a genius in any regard, and especially not the mobile space. I just have found Ody on a few too many accounts to be unnecessarily rude... My own focus is on computer networking and desktop PCs. :good: I usually reside at XtremeSystems.org and HWBOT.org due to my hobby of extreme LN2 overclocking.
Use original rom of htc
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
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BEST OPTION EVER AFTER GETTING THROUGH ALL THE ROM FROM DEV FORUM I FOUND THAT NO ONE IS PROPER AND COMPATIBLE FOR OUR DEVICE ONLY ORIGINAL ROM ALLOW YOU TO USE ALL THE FEATURE STRESS FREE + STABLE VERSION BE SMART !
ONE DAY YOU HAVE TO BACK AGAIN FOR THIS ROM .. I ALWAYS DO SO .. MAY BE EXPERIENCED PERSON AGREE WITH ME !
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http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads