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I'm thinking of upgrading from XDA I to II, has anybody else who has upgraded come across anythings that was worse on the XDA II than on the XDA I, for example battery life and using the screen outdoors? Also I find PocketPC 2002 very buggy and the phone is unreliable - have these issues been resolved in XDA II/PocketPC 2003?
some people have this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10088
some people feel that the screen dont like like it's 65k colouer screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...postorder=asc&highlight=color+colour&start=50
some people dont like the bluetooth stack from ms which xda2 use
which are a bit limited in just about every way you can think of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9618&highlight=bluetooth
Wow, wasn't aware of so many potential problems on the XDA 2... I didn't notice any problems with the color while playing with a demo unit. Next time I do get my hands on one I'll scan it more carefully.
I too am using a XDA I, but I do not plan on pouncing on the XDA 2 because there are a few new units on the horizon.. most notably the HP 6300 and MDA III.
well it's not like the colour is worse then xda1 just that some people dont think it's true 16bit colour
Everything is fine with my unit; I just don't like the MS Bluetooth Stack, doesn't let you listen to music through your Bluetooth Headset
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Everything is fine with my unit; I just don't like the MS Bluetooth Stack, doesn't let you listen to music through your Bluetooth Headset
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Will the MDA3 have this fixed?
i think when no other info is given about bluetooth stacks
then they are using the free and not all that great ms stack
Rudegar said:
i think when no other info is given about bluetooth stacks
then they are using the free and not all that great ms stack
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Thats too bad... I may actually consider the HP63xx if this turns out to be the case...
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I'm thinking of upgrading from XDA I to II, has anybody else who has upgraded come across anythings that was worse on the XDA II than on the XDA I, for example battery life and using the screen outdoors? Also I find PocketPC 2002 very buggy and the phone is unreliable - have these issues been resolved in XDA II/PocketPC 2003?
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I use XDA1 with WM2003 with no problems. I never use the 2002. What problems are present?
- If you lose reception it will sometimes not automatically reconnect to the network
- If you lose a GPRS connection you have to do a soft-reset to connect again
- Sometimes it won't do a GPRS connection - again a soft reset. Sometimes when it does connect can't download any information
- SPB Full Screen Keyboard sometimes doesn't work because of some fault in the OS. One has to take out the SD card and do a soft reset but when you do that you can't access the SD card
- When you put in a new SD card it won't recognise it - one has to do a soft reset.
- Sometimes the device will do a soft reset on its own, though I think that is down to a lose SIM card.
- If you have the SMS client open while in standby mode you won't get any audio alerts for incoming SMSs
- On some days I get double alarms on one alaram
- One seems to have to do a soft reset before uninstalling programs, if you don't, it tries to uninstall it but you get a busy icon forever
Some of the above are probably hardware problems though some are OS bugs. I wish the device would be a bit more reliable
do you have an xda2 ?
because your profile says xda1 ?
I use my Wallaby about 5-6 moths. (Yes I have an XDA1)
- If you lose reception it will sometimes not automatically reconnect to the network
This happends for me once. But I think the whole OS freeze, maybe from other problem, or program. I lose the network twice a day, because I travel with underground. But no problem to loging on.
- If you lose a GPRS connection you have to do a soft-reset to connect again
Oh yes, this is a roblem. I try GPRS when I bought my device, use internet for one month, and yes, it happends often for me too.
- Sometimes it won't do a GPRS connection - again a soft reset. Sometimes when it does connect can't download any information
Yes, yes. Now, I remember that problem.
- SPB Full Screen Keyboard sometimes doesn't work because of some fault in the OS. One has to take out the SD card and do a soft reset but when you do that you can't access the SD card
I don't use this program
- When you put in a new SD card it won't recognise it - one has to do a soft reset.
I used SD card rarely. Only 5-6 times, when I borrowing one from my friend. But I had no errors like this.
- Sometimes the device will do a soft reset on its own, though I think that is down to a lose SIM card.
Never happend to me
- If you have the SMS client open while in standby mode you won't get any audio alerts for incoming SMSs
Hmm. It mean, when inbox was open? I never tested it.
On some days I get double alarms on one alaram
Only happend for me, when load back a backup, and there was double everithing (contats, appointments....) when I synced with outlook. I think I make something wrong.
- One seems to have to do a soft reset before uninstalling programs, if you don't, it tries to uninstall it but you get a busy icon forever
It is a software failure I think. maybe for the wrong programmed softwares, and the OS.
I hate one thing with this MS phone:
I use startup password. When I receive a call, I can pick up the phone, without enter the password, but can't change the volume. :evil: I hate this bug well.
I think the XDA 1 is the best value phone/pda on the market today and the xda developers have made it even better value with their flashing software and bespoke roms. I use one as a phone, navigation system, book reader, mp3 player, internet explorer, pop3 email downloader, games, and much more, there is nothing that comes near to the functionality for the price. I have bought several used 64meg devices for friends and they are all amazed at the value for money, when coupled with gps and tomtom its still cheap but packed with features and options.
I have an XDA1 my only 2 problems are that it does not have a SDIO socket & Bluetooth, and as Cruisin thru said the developers here enhanced the device to be the best working PDA PHONE in the market they could just do that to the Himalaya's as well since it has all the missing features in the Wallaby but it need a lot of hard work.
Hello
I have a problem, that seems to be related to the 2.1 update, since I haven't had this problem before. I've flashed both with versions from here and generic nordic version so I have tested several times from scratch.
I have roomies with the same phonemodel and carrier that have no problems. One of them use 1.6 and one 2.1.
My problem seems to be that the phone can't save and decide what NW to choose. Often I can have several text message dropping in at once several hours late. Often when I try to call I have to try up to ten times before the call connect, and most of the time when people call me they get I'm not available.
Seems it's no change if I kill everything non standard or even directly after re-flash. Do anyone of you know these problems and have an idea if it could be HW, SW or perhaps sim releated?
Since my roomies have the same phone and came carrier I doubt it's the carrier itself causing this. Both GSM and 3G coverage is great in the area. It can be noted that if I manage to get the 3G connection running, talking over SIP is 100%, but over GSM the receiver can have problems hearing me and sometimes I get this robotvoice.
So, for me it seems the radio firmware can be a bit off here, but is there anyway I can replace this separately or do you know of any fix that resolve the NW carrier settings that the phone seem to forget?
i seem to be having the same problem regarding delayed sms messages...
can anybody help please?
why not switch phones with your room mates and see if the problems follows the phone or the sim.
Mine is actually worse. SMSes doesn't even reach my phone. It happen twice already ( once in 1.6 and the second time in 2.1) Both time I solve the issue by reinstalling the phone software via pc suite. You should do the same
I have the same problem, i reinstalled the Cyanogen using xrec, and problem still exists.
Maybe anyone have some hints how to solve it?
Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
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I have this same problem in my Chevy Volt. Sometimes the phonebook works (but very slowly) but the call lists never work. Also seems to take a very long time to pair initially.
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A lot of cars can only import the phone book from the SIM card. Not from any other application on the phone.
So if your phone book is in Google Contacts or some other application...you'll need to port it into the SIM card itself for most cars to be able to read it.
Return it. I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine. I actually think its the clearest device I've used in my car yet
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"I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine."
And do you know WHICH phone book your numbers are in, or which phone books the A4 can pair with?
If his BT is connecting, and the phone is working over BT, there's no reason to think the phone is defective. yet.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
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It's not a BT Stack problem...it's an Audi problem (or BMW, etc...). The manufacturers need to program their devices for Android. The ability to grab contacts and such isn't a standard bluetooth handsfree device option. It has to do something extra. How it *handles* that extra something differs by device...which is why some don't work with Android devices.
On top of that, there's a dialogue when you first pair the device that asks if it should have access to your contacts, call lists, etc...that you have to "Allow" or it won't ever be able to get those lists. It's been the same way on every Android phone I've ever used. If you don't hit Allow within 10 seconds the dialogue will go away and never come back...unless you unpair and re-pair the device. Try doing this and seeing if the dialogue comes up. If it doesn't, it's an issue with the way your Audi/BMW polls for contacts.
BTW works perfectly with my Kenwood receiver.
Ziuck said:
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I have the 08' audi a4 and my contacts sync just fine, as do the missed calls.
" my contacts sync just fine"
SIM card contacts? Google Contacts? Exactly which or what "contacts" ?
Hi, new user here to searched and figured it'd be better to post in this thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm another Atrix user who is having issues with pairing the Atrix to a bluetooth car kit. I've got the VW Touch Phone Kit (rebadged Bury CC9060) which used to work perfectly with my previous Samsung Omnia as well as my partner's Samsung S8500. The problem I have was that with the 1.57 firmware, I could initially pair the phone and it would sync the phonebook up fine so that I could make or receive any number of calls without a hitch. But the issue was when I switched the ignition off then back on, the Atrix appears to pair correctly, it'll grab the phonebook but cannot make or grab any incoming calls. When dialing from the phonebook, it will initiate the call then drop out while the call still goes through. Incoming calls just aren't picked up at all. If I deleted the pairing and paired the phone up to the car kit again, it'd work until the first ignition off and back on again.
After I updated to the 1.83 firmware, this no longer works for me at all even though it appears to pair correctly and syncs the phonebook as well.
I've looked into upgrading the software on the car kit but I'm already on v0181 which is the latest for the VW branded kit. The Bury CC9060 kit has available a v0235 update but won't load on the VW kit as it does a checksum check. I'm looking at possibly editing the flasher to bypass the checksum check.
Has anyone else used the Atrix with this car kit and experiencing the same issues?
Thanks in advance
fmflex
A quick bump.
I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one using an Atrix with this car kit...
I really wanted to buy a car kit, I was even willing to pay the rather high price. Then i saw tht the Atrix just "snaps it" with those two spring arms.
You know what happens in an accident? The phone will fly out as a missle. Good luck finding it, if you were doing 30 when you got slammed, the phone will still be doing 30 when it launches out of the clips.
If it doesn't hit you, you still won't be able to find it or call 911 on it.
So, nice dock, I'm holding off for something that can be used "in case of accident". For that price, I expect a more robust product, designed to survive. (Note to Moto, calls Mercedes and speak to crash safety team.)
hotleadsingerguy said:
"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I am not sure that the blame can be directed to the car makers not suiting the android configuration.
I had concerns about Androids paring car bluetooth, so when my wife got her Samsung running Froyo before i purchased the Atrix, I tested it on my 2010 A4 and it all worked faultlessly. All phonebook, dialled, missed calls & received calls. All her contacts are stored on the Phone too, not the SIM. It actually worked better with it than my old Nokia's, and my old iPhone 3G. All of which had contacts stored on the phone not the SIM.
Being in my car all day, I had to make sure it the Atrix running Froyo would work too, and that's why I tested it with my wifes phone before buying the Atrix.
I would have to say that the problem does have something to do with how the Atrix handles bluetooth. I have been having all the same issues that other users are having.
To be fair to the Atrix, I had only one problem when I originanlly bought it and that was loading the contacts from the phones storage, all the other options were working and it never displayed the annoying error message and it never dropped the connection either.
This has only started playing up completely since I rooted it and installed HeLauncher with Fancy widgets (maybe it's just a coincidence, but its unlikely i think IMHO).
I have since uninstalled the HeLauncher and Fancy Widgets, and yet the problem is still there, so I have no realistic reason why it isn't working anymore.
Because i work for Audi, I will check at work why this issue might be happening ( just with the Atrix not all the other Android phones) and see if their is anything that can be done to fix the issue.
Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Ok, I have tried connectivity with the current version of MMI and it seems to pair up with NO error messages at all. It would appear at this stage that the new MMI generation have the "issue" fixed. I am still waiting for a reply from Service Technical Support to answer why the issue exists on the older MMI generations. It would appear that Audi in conjection with Apple focused their MMI setup for iOS, not considering Android OS's.
Will keep you updated once I have some more information about previous versions of MMI.
Blame the cars not the phone.
My phone works 100% well and perfect with my Acura.
I've also had fun trying to get my E46 3 Series BMW ULF BT module to talk to the Atrix - has no issues speaking to an older Nokia phone. Anyway after a LOT of experimentation I've finally pinned down the root cause of the problem, text messages (SMS).
I've yet to figure out the specific trigger but it is either the number of messages or something in a specific message it doesn't like. I figured this out because I noticed the envelope icon coming up on the BMW screen for 5-10 seconds before the bluetooth would drop out each time after connecting the pairing. Each connection only lasts 15 seconds at most.
Anyway there were 193 SMS messages in the car memory, maybe the 194th message was upsetting it. I deleted almost all the 1150 SMS messages in my phone and it was only when I got rid of all of them that it connected. I then had to manually clear the SMS messages in the BMW one by one (took a long while).
I then did some testing whereby I sent an SMS or two to my phone. I noted that the Atrix seems to periodly get asked to upload messages to the car. You can delete them in the car but if they are still on the phone, they come back shortly after. They always show as unread on the BMW unless you read them on the car screen. Reading them on the phone has no affect. Maybe the SMS side of BT headset support is borked on the Atrix.
So my conclusion is that while I don't know the detailed trigger specifics, for BMWs at least the Atrix Bluetooth issue comes down to SMS messages. My large contacts directory uploads in its entirety without an issue. The solution for reliable BT connectivity to the Atrix and a BMW seems to be in SMS message management. Get yourself a copy of SMS Backup from the market when you experiment.
Hope this helps others!
Matt
A few days ago I bought a device called GMATE ($80), a type of smallcell without display or keyboard which is inserted a normal simcard and communicating via Bluetooth to the Samsung Galaxy Player, which means an application is integrated with android, receiving and making phone calls, and SMS, in addition to allowing internet access GPRS.
It's a perfect combination that increases the possibilities of Our Player
IPhones must be jailbroken, a repo is added to Cydia, and then the Gmate app is installed for the integrated Gmate functionality. How does this work in Android?
In GooglePlay you can download a Gmate aplication that integrates the gadget with your android player (also convert your android phone in a double sim phone) and uses android phone's features like dialer, contacts, or any thirtd party aplication likes rocket Dial.
Received and Make calls don´t need special features, if you uses the Gprs/edge to internet (in places with no WIFI) need to be rooted.
The application is not compatible with my U.S. 5.0 Player.
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The application is not compatible with my U.S. 5.0 Player.
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Go to skyroam webpage and ask for a .apk file, i have Intl 5.0 and working great, sometimes any aplication in GooglePlay seems to be incompatible for my SG player but, on a external apk source works fine.
Dutch 5.0
Thank you for the info! I will definitely buy one if it works in The Netherlands.
That does look interesting.
Anyone using it with the USA version?
Is there something similar that i can connect it to my player or to put it in the galaxy player? So this wey i dony have to worry if i get out of 10 neters or jf i fodget it at home
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Wow, wonderful find. I was looking for exacly something like this. Unfortunately, With ICS CM9 installed on my GP5 Bluetooth doesn't work =( (neither does the camera or hardware acceleration. They really need to fix that.)
So I can make phone calls/sms without having wifi?
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A few days ago I bought a device called GMATE ($80), a type of smallcell without display or keyboard which is inserted a normal simcard and communicating via Bluetooth to the Samsung Galaxy Player, which means an application is integrated with android, receiving and making phone calls, and SMS, in addition to allowing internet access GPRS.
It's a perfect combination that increases the possibilities of Our Player
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With the Gmate app, can your SGP connect to a regular cell phone with bluetooth or it can only connect to the Gmate?
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With the Gmate app, can your SGP connect to a regular cell phone with bluetooth or it can only connect to the Gmate?
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Gmate only.. I tried it with my other android phone and it doesn't work.
I came further when I changed my phone's Bluetooth id to "Gmate". It didn't connect because of a password failure
It's seems good
I don't quite understand... So besides buying the Gmate, would i need a sim card as well? secondly so would i practically be using a sim card with a data plan to use with gmate? but wouldnt that defeat the purpose of just using a smart phone with a card in it?.... these are all continuation Q's if the first is a yes lol.
This seems like a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway. How well does the device actually work? Does it keep a connection throughout the day, sending and receiving text messages without too much delay? I'm considering using this to replace my old dumbphone, but I'd rather not plunk down a sizable chunk of change with little indication as to how well this thing actually works.
Gmate calling speaker sound
Question: Does the sound come out of the front speaker while calling?
(I don't like to call everywhere with loud back speakers)
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Question: Does the sound come out of the front speaker while calling?
(I don't like to call everywhere with loud back speakers)
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I don't know about GMate, but on Groove IP (and probably others), the front speaker on the 5.0 is quite functional and is used for calls.
Mevordel said:
I don't know about GMate, but on Groove IP (and probably others), the front speaker on the 5.0 is quite functional and is used for calls.
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Thank you for the info!
P.S. I like your rom a lot!
Cool!
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EDIT: I HAVE FIXED THE MAIN ISSUE WITH MY GMATE, MORE INFORMATION BELOW
Well, my Gmate+ came in the mail today, and I've been playing with it for a little while now and am able to give first impressions. First off, the device is much smaller than I imagined, it easily fits in my palm, the vibration (on the plus version) is very loud. As for the function itself, it works. You can call and send and receive text messages (haven't tested the web access yet) with a few minor (and one major) annoyances. My device is currently a US SGP 4.0 running Terrasilent 1.1 and EtherealRom 2.3.
Minor annoyances I have found with the Gmate+:
- Notifications (read: texts) do not make noise/vibrate while the screen is locked. Once the screen goes on, if you do have a new text, it notifies you, kind of ruining the point of the notification.
- Text messages you send have proper time stamps, for some reason, the ones you receive are off by a few hours, as if the sender is in a different time zone
- Seems to be no way to delete contacts from the address book, even uninstalling, wiping data, reinstalling didn't do anything about this.
Major annoyance with the Gmate+:
- It disconnects, and by that I mean it disconnects ALL THE TIME, the device is pretty much useless because of this, it will be fine for a few minutes, then disconnect, regardless of how close the Gmate is to my SGP. Every few minutes, I'd check it, and guess what? No connection. Sometimes it would reconnect, sometimes I'd have to manually do it, sometimes I'd have to restart one or both devices to get it to work again.
Seeing as everything the device does it actually does quite well when actually connected, I want to rule this problem to some battery saving tweak in my kernel/rom. As such, I'll be returning to stock and trying the Gmate again to see if any of these issues are cleared up. As it stands, I have a 75$ paperweight that buzzes occasionally.
EDIT: After flashing back to stock and noticing no change, I began searching around and found other people having similar problems with similar devices, mainly connecting their smartphones to the bluetooth sound system in their car. Turns out in Deep Sleep, the device has issues keeping constant bluetooth connection. After downloading an app (Bluetooth KeepAlive: ~$1.30) on the market that keeps the device from entering this mode, the Gmate no longer disconnects, and has remained connected for several days, having no problem with calls or text messages at any time. In summary, with this app, I am now happy to recommend the Gmate to anyone who is looking for this kind of functionality. Guess it goes to show that non compatible apps are listed in the Play Store as non working for a reason
Hi, I've been trying to sort this out for the last 24 hours with no luck and need it fixed quite urgently
I have a Sony Ericsson Play, android version 2.3.4.
The microphone on my phone is rather strange, I can call people no problem, they hear me no problem but if i try and record my voice with a voice recorder there's absolute silence. This led me to backing up all my data and restoring my phone to factory settings hoping it was a glitch that would go away - it didn't.
So i reset my phone and it seems like it has been reset to a previous update to what I had before. I'm unsure of what update I had previously but one thing that has changed is that I no longer have the Google Play store but have the rubbish old market with hardly anything on it. Also my phone doesn't detect any of the apps that are stored on my SD (they're still there the space is taken). This is rather frustrating as I use apps such as Whatsapp a lot and I'm unable to use it.
Another major factor in my issue is that I bought my phone in the UK, had the updates done there and I am now in China. I plugged in my phone and tried updating it using the Sony Companion software but it tells me this is the most recent update (which it isn't). Same thing on the phone when I try and update it in the settings. I tried using a VPN on both my phone and laptop and 'locating myself' in the UK but it still says this is the latest update.
Can anyone offer any solution or advice that could help me regain what I had before. I've been searching all over the internet trying to find a solution with no luck.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer I really appreciate. Any questions just ask. Step by step solution would be excellent
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