Does anyone know if it is safe to completely uninstall Vlingo (via adb) rather than freeze it with TiBa?
We are freezing just to be safe. If you must delete it make sure you first backed it up w/ TiBU. Let us know if you do experience any problems after you have deleted it. One thing that was a concern at one point is when you update you may have to restore system app(s) otherwise the update will fail.
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just finished rooting my phone.
I do not know how to delete bloatware or other things i don't really need.
do i need to download an app or something to do this?
also, what other apps should i download now that i am rooted?
Download Root Explorer. It's a file manager that will allow you access to the system files/structure. It will also allow you to delete any system apps that you don't want (they're under system/app).
But first, get Titanium Backup so you can backup your phone, apps, data and settings. You can also remove the system apps with TiBu, I just recommend having Root Explorer regardless.
And be careful about what you remove. Some apps are necessary for system functionality. I'd suggest looking at the info for one of the third-party roms like Cognition and follow the list of apps they removed in their roms to get a good idea of what you're safe to delete.
I'd also like to recommend Titanium Backup as well. I'd also advise getting the Pro version and Freezing anything you're not 100% certain you can safely delete. Either way, do a full backup of all apps first before you remove them as you never know what you might want/need down the road.
systemappremover is also a viable option
There's a Google Doc of what is and is not safe to remove... may want to have a read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18099044&postcount=9
I have an SGSII, rooted with Odin/CWM 4 and I cannot restore any system apps using Titanium Backup - it simply sits there saying 'Restoring App' and nothing happens. Normal apps can be restored OK. I tried changing the app processing mode in TB to Auto/Indirect but it didn't help.
Any ideas? I have TB Pro FWIW.
Can't you just restore systemdata? I assume the apps are there already.
ps you know the downside of restoring system apps?
I backed up and then uninstalled some system apps using TB Pro (TpLauncher, AccuWeather, etc.) but now I'd like to get some of them back. I assumed using the TB restore option was the way to go.
What's the downside of doing this? Can I restore these manually?
Same happened to me, I guess lesson is don't uninstall sys app unless you really don't want them.
Glad it's not just me and I have a nandroid so I can get everything back but it's annoying. I've reported it to the TB devs. If they come up with a solution I'll let you know.
I use root explorer backup the system apk, restore it when need it back.
what i do, is close titanium application then restart it again. then viola.
seems strange ... TB Pro always do the job for me
FWIW these were apps I first freezed, then uninstalled (without unfreezing). I wonder if this is relevant. Perhaps the permissions are screwed or something. If I could get a TB log I could find out. Hopefully the developers will help out.
Bump. Any updates on this? I'm having the same problem
Here is my reply from Titanium Backup support:
"We're sorry, system apps are critical and should not be removed in the first place. Some apps are tightly ROM bounded, while others are dependent on other system entities which could break things when they are removed. We have already provided the warning in the preferences that you will be held responsible of your own actions upon removing the system apps and we will not provide support for restoring them back. In most cases like this, you will have to reflash your ROM or restore your nandroid backup (you must always keep a nandroid handy)."
So in other words - tough sh*t! Not what I was expecting.
I restored my Nandroid and now only freeze apps, and they seem to defrost OK but after that reply I'm wondering if I should continue to use their product.
rec71 said:
Here is my reply from Titanium Backup support:
"We're sorry, system apps are critical and should not be removed in the first place. Some apps are tightly ROM bounded, while others are dependent on other system entities which could break things when they are removed. We have already provided the warning in the preferences that you will be held responsible of your own actions upon removing the system apps and we will not provide support for restoring them back. In most cases like this, you will have to reflash your ROM or restore your nandroid backup (you must always keep a nandroid handy)."
So in other words - tough sh*t! Not what I was expecting.
I restored my Nandroid and now only freeze apps, and they seem to defrost OK but after that reply I'm wondering if I should continue to use their product.
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In fairness they are right, anyone who uninstalls system apps is asking for trouble why would you want to do that in the first place,you can simply freeze any apps you don't use instead, i have most of the Samsung bloatware frozen in Titanium as i don't use them and many of them are responsible for excessive battery drainage.
BTW Titanium Backup is probably the best overall app in the whole market and they always release updates, i highly recommend this app to anyone who doesn't already have it.
As a software developer myself if one of my apps didn't work correctly and a customer asked for help I would do my level best to get to the bottom of the issue instead of fobbing them off.
The app lets you uninstall system apps and restore them again - why would you want to? because on some devices space might be at a premium - I freed up 100MB on my previous device (Xperia Arc S) using this feature for example - which made a big difference.
Luckily I don't need the space on my SII but I'm surprised that the TB devs wouldn't want to find out what the issue is.
rec71 said:
As a software developer myself if one of my apps didn't work correctly and a customer asked for help I would do my level best to get to the bottom of the issue instead of fobbing them off.
The app lets you uninstall system apps and restore them again - why would you want to? because on some devices space might be at a premium - I freed up 100MB on my previous device (Xperia Arc S) using this feature for example - which made a big difference.
Luckily I don't need the space on my SII but I'm surprised that the TB devs wouldn't want to find out what the issue is.
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They know what the issue is. The outcome of removing an restoring system apps is just unpredictable. They gave a warning that it could cause unwanted results. Messing with roms gives unpredicted results.
Same thing happened to my Galaxy Pocket. I uninstalled system apps and can't restore them.
THE solution is wen u want to uninstall an system app den first of all make an back up of DATA of that system app and den go 2 loaction of app through root explorer in internal storage and copy that APK file to ur sd card as backup .
den delete the APK file mannualy or uninstall using titanium backup...
wen u want dat app again den copy the APK to its original old location of system /app and restore the data using titanium backup and just restart the phone..
hope it helps ...
Yes, I can restore system data
Lennyz1988 said:
Can't you just restore systemdata? I assume the apps are there already.
ps you know the downside of restoring system apps?
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To be more thorough:
I am able to restore system data of an app but I can't restore an app.
In fact, if I locate the apk which titanium backup had backed up with a file browser and install it manually, it works fine! I can then restore data with titanium backup.
Issue on my Galaxy SII (no matter what ROM I use)
You shouldn't be restoring system apps at all/you shouldn't need to (the data may be another question though). Why are you wanting to restore system apps/which apps in particular ?
First of all, its a very nice ROM! Reliable, smooth and fast!
I did a minor mess and ask for your advice, after installation I did a full recovery of my apps and data with titanium backup. After that I experienced two annoying issues, the browser didn't start (browser.android.com error) and the new calendar have a conflict with the old one restored.
If I reflash without wiping that issues should go?
Many thanks!
Going forward, do not restore system apps. There are ways to fix this, but I would go the clean way and factory wipe. Then simply restore non-system apps. I also then go in and freeze a lot of system apps since Task has what I consider to be bloat... once you have frozen them and do not experience any issues you could uninstall them (though if frozen, no real need to)... ie, you could do this on the calendar.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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s15274n said:
Going forward, do not restore system apps. There are ways to fix this, but I would go the clean way and factory wipe. Then simply restore non-system apps. I also then go in and freeze a lot of system apps since Task has what I consider to be bloat... once you have frozen them and do not experience any issues you could uninstall them (though if frozen, no real need to)... ie, you could do this on the calendar.
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I think everyone makes the system app restore mistake once. s15274n is right though, its best to always just go ahead and start clean, just to make sure there are no complications that haven't shown themselves yet, and then all of a sudden your tablet won't rotate anymore... (that was my super experience with not wiping completely)
Thanks.
I full wiped all again reinstalled the rom, restored the 3rd part apps and data. It's working now!
Ok, so I have a Sprint Evo 3D with S-Off and the SmoothCriminal rom and 4ext touch recovery (stuck on RC3 because there is no way to install a recovery image anymore without having the device working in the first place).
Last night for no reason the UI started endlessly rebooting, so I decided to just reboot...... and my phone kept boot-looping from then on.
Not wanting to lose all of my data I perform an advanced nandroid backup of all of the partitions separately so I could take a closer look and see what might cause it to boot properly again.
Turns out for some reason the /data/system/sync folder was the problem, removing this causes the phone too boot again after wiping and restoring the data partition with that folder removed from the nandroid backup.
Problem is, I seem to have lost permissions or whatever the term would be for ANY app that didn't come with the rom or had been updated since, I have to delete my account, then re-add it, then uninstall and reinstall EVERY app.
First of all, isn't the sync folder just a temporary cache for data to sync to your accounts? Why would that cause a bootloop and it's removal fix it? And second, why would removing it make me lose all of the equivalent of my "licenses" for every app? Is there any easy way to fix this?
Sorry I don't have an answer to your main question, but do you not have your apps backed up with titanium (or another) that you can easily restore from?
I didn't have a backup from before it started bootlooping, no. Plus its not like I can run Titanium if all I can access are the bootloader and recovery, not the main OS.
And also, I have another problem now. All the system apps I cannot update because of the license conflict thing, and unlike the other apps I cannot just uninstall and reinstall them to fix it, since they are system apps. Just updating doesn't work either.
I've posted a few questions here or there in the last few days and received great help from all of you. Thank you!
Now my phone is rooted. I am thinking to deal with the bloatware. There are a few come to my mind, please tell me if it is safe to touch them:
1. KNOX;
2. Verizon Mobile Security;
3. Backup Assistant Plus;
4. Google+;
The ideal of treating these bloatware is to stop them from running so memory can be used more productively. I used to rename bloatware with the bak. Is it the right way of doing thing nowadays? (My last phone was a droid 3).
Hope I will get some directions here. Thanks again.
newshook said:
I've posted a few questions here or there in the last few days and received great help from all of you. Thank you!
Now my phone is rooted. I am thinking to deal with the bloatware. There are a few come to my mind, please tell me if it is safe to touch them:
1. KNOX;
2. Verizon Mobile Security;
3. Backup Assistant Plus;
4. Google+;
The ideal of treating these bloatware is to stop them from running so memory can be used more productively. I used to rename bloatware with the bak. Is it the right way of doing thing nowadays? (My last phone was a droid 3).
Hope I will get some directions here. Thanks again.
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SuperSU will stop the user-land Knox agent from running.
You can stop Verizon Mobile Security with "pm disable com.asurion.android.verizon.vms" at a root shell prompt.
After that, freeze any applications that you don't want to run using Titanium Backup. That will keep them from running and allow you to re-enable anything that you've been too aggressive about.
I've found this to be a great help with cutting away the bloatware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258952
Do not delete anything that you actually use (Google Calendar/Contact Sync). Cross check the applications to see the functions of each with:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmzC8GFarItSdGpOZzBfWlR4MC03aDMyZ1BDUFNqU0E&usp=sharing
You can remove anything with Knox in the name after rooting. As always, if using Titanium Backup, backup the app before deleting or freeze it. I don't see anything wrong with renaming the bloatware (apk & odex files).
Somewhere I learned that the vmmhux.apk is Backup Assistant Plus. I rename it with bak suffix, well, the Backup Assistant is still shown under Account. What do we know about this vmmhux.apk?
Also, which app is for Verizon Mobile Security?
EnUfor said:
I've found this to be a great help with cutting away the bloatware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258952
Do not delete anything that you actually use (Google Calendar/Contact Sync). Cross check the applications to see the functions of each with:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmzC8GFarItSdGpOZzBfWlR4MC03aDMyZ1BDUFNqU0E&usp=sharing
You can remove anything with Knox in the name after rooting. As always, if using Titanium Backup, backup the app before deleting or freeze it. I don't see anything wrong with renaming the bloatware (apk & odex files).
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You might be better off using Titanium Backup for finding which APK belong to which process. Backup Assistant is baked into the system. Even after uninstalling all of Verizon's applications, Backup Assistant will still exist in the settings (opening a menu results in Settings crashing). I won't be able to help you with vmmhux.apk.
According to Titanium, Verizon Mobile Security is /system/app/VMS.APK