I've had my gtab about a week. i initially installed clockworkmod and TNT 4.4. I would now like to try Vegan. Can I just do an install of Vegan, or is there some wipe procedure needed first? I have a Titanium backup.
ti backup is more for backing up apps. when installing a new rom like vegan-tab its best to use clockworks and make a backup of your current Rom thats installed so if you change and don't like it can go back without redoing anything you have done on the rom. i my self have went from tnt to vegan tab and love vegan.
answer to your question is yes just install like you normally would, id suggest doing a factory reset after installing also.
I always do a factory reset (Data Wipe) before and after installing a new ROM. It prevents some forms of boot looping and only adds a couple minutes to the process.
Use titanium backup to backup both app and data if you want. But I have found some instability issues with restoring data along with app. And others have reported the same thing. So, it's best to just restore app without data. I actually did several tests and so far I have not experienced a single FC, freeze, or reboot with rom with restored app only. The roms with restored app and data i have experienced FC's, freezes, and soft reboots. Take this for what it's worth.
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Been using BitTrix's CM 7 for awhile but wanted to go back and give the latest Tnt Lite and Vegan a try. Flashed the roms no problem. Ran into an issue when restoring my apps and data with titanium backup. Any app I restored data for just fc when opened. If I restored just the app, it would open fine. Tried adjusting the settings in TB but still no luck.
Repeated on both roms and had the same issue. As a last resort flashed the official CM 7 rom didn't have any problems restoring apps and data.
The only thing I could think of is whether data backed up on 2.3 is incompatible with 2.2.
Anyone else have issues like this?
Thanks.
I've had the same problem on the Droid Incredible. Haven't found anyway to move back to an older ROM and keep data yet.
I've always used MyBackup Root to backup and restore my apps when going from ROM to ROM and never had a problem. Recently I backed up my apps (NOTE: I NEVER backup system apps, just user/third-party apps and the only system data I back up is calendar data) in a 2.2 ROM (Trigger) in order to flash a 2.2.1 one (Bi-Winning) without issues. I flashed the new ROM and proceeded to restore the apps using MyBackup, again with virtually no problems, everything went smoothly and the market apps had their links restored, etc.
However when I started using my apps, most of them had weird problems. Some were force closing, others had missing data or no data at all, and some were simply broken. I instantly lost track of what worked and what didn't. I assumed this was caused by a bad flash so I re-downloaded the ROM and flashed it again making sure I followed all the instructions to the letter. Then I restored everything again and all of my apps were behaving the same way. This isn't the case if I delete then reinstall an app using Market or another source that is not MyBackup.
After freaking out/****ting bricks/etc, I started looking for ways to deal with the problem. This is what I've done so far:
- Used a 1-week old MyBackup folder that had worked before when I went from Bionix to Trigger. (Failed: Similar, if not the same, results)
- Flashed Trigger again and both folders failed.
- Flashed a different ROM (phiremod) and tried both folders. Fail again.
I'm about to delete my folders, start from scratch with no app data, and use Titanium Backup from now on. Has anyone had similar problems?
Just thought I'd give an update since this has gotten over 90 views.
I started from scratch ever since and have been using Titanium Backup Pro. I've switched to many 2.2.1 and 2.2 ROMs so far without issues and all of the restores have been flawless.
I'm running streakdroid 1.9 but I would like to do some experimentation with my streak. If I flash a new rom what will I lose? How do you backup your data so you can flash to your hearts content?
Thanks
if u flash stock roms, they do a factory reset during first start up.
So u end up loosing everything.
However if u flash .zip version of the stock roms using CWM or streak recovery , u will retain almost everything but may loose somethings like root and so on.
Remember stock roms will flash its default recovery everytime it boots up
Ok thanks. Is it wise to do a factory reset anyway?
What tools can I use to backup messages, apps, photos, etc?
I use titanium backup.
If you do a nandroid backup, when you restore it, everything will be just as it was before you flashed another ROM...
As far as using Titanium... it has never worked for me completely, nor has MyBackUp Pro, they cause me more headache than being useful...
I have gotten to the point to when I flash a new ROM, I just manually install everything, I know it sounds like some hassle, but you end up with a much smoother operating phone.
I even do a nandroid backup first, then go into my ROM and manually uninstall everything, so that when I boot up my new ROM and setup my market account, it doesn't try to install everything on its own and bog down my phone at first, I install everything manually in the order I want and set them up as I go.
I know this sounds cumbersome, but I have found it creates a cleaner environment and practically eliminated force closes
That is the way I like to do things also but what about the things that you can't just re-install e.g. sms, application specific data?
Advice
I was having a sim card and constant restart issue after updating to streakroid 2.4.4, and even after flashing dsc, the problem persisted. After I reviewed the steps I had taken I realized that I never did a factory resest (fearing I would forever lose my precious app data, which I did -_-). It turned out that was the fix, after doing the factory reset, my sim card was recognized immediately and a couple of the text I had missed showed up. However, I fixed one fixed problem and developed another.
Even though I restored a MyBackup and Titanium backup I did right before resetting I recovered my several apps without their precious data (setting, notes, bookmarks). I tried doing internal backups within the apps, some conveniently had syncs to a cloud yet I missed doing that with a few apps because I have over 100+ and I use more than half on a regular basis (even if for 5 minutes). All my apps are on my device, which is a good thing but I cant appreciate that given the missing data.
So my advice is:
Use apps that have can automatically backup or sync data -- there are enough apps with similiar utility that you can avoid ones without that function.
Do a manual backup within your important apps. -- Some apps backup files to locations that may be wiped during update, doesn't have auto backup or the last backup is months old.
Pics, texts, call logs are easily backed up -- Backup programs will explicitly state or ask what to back up in that regard.
Do a nandroid backup -- I believe this only restores rom and apps but someone can correct me.
Caveat
Through all the research done before actually need to restore a backup I missed the fact when restore apps depending on the restore program every app has to be reinstalled individually. If you have more than 25 apps then #$#@!, also for some reason when restoring with titanium if during a batch restore you come across an app if you hit cancel during one of the install prompts because you actually don't want to restore that app the batch will freeze and you'll have to force close titanium and start the restore all over. Go through the list of restore options and choose each app one by one, save yourself the time.
Lastly, to piggy back off what was said before, a factory reset( FR) after updating rom is always recommended but its not always needed. Most roms will update without causing you to lose any data but like I said previously I had sim card issues when I updated without a FR. YMMV
At this point I don't know if this helps the OP but maybe it will benefit someone else who reads this thread.
This guide by _n0p_ tells how to do an upgrade and minimize the re-installation of apps.
Key items:
Use the backup function of any apps that have it
Don't count on restoring data with TB or My Backup
Make a nandroid - just in case
I have found TB and My Backup to be useful for things like browser bookmarks.
The post linked to discussed going from Froyo to Gingerbread but the same techniques apply for moving to any other ROM.
Last time i changed roms, i used the Dell backup utility for evertyhing but the apps, which can be backed up together with their data with QtADB which creates a backup folder on your SD. After installing the new rom, i chose advanced recovery from the Dell Utility and set it to recover everything but the apps, which i recovered with QtADB. However, I also strongly recommend nandroid, in case the steak doesn't boot after the install.
Hi there,
About a month ago I bought an HTC Thunderbolt and somebody helped me root the phone. Since then I have had some family emergency/issues that have caused me to put programming the phone on hold. Now that they have cleared up I am trying to now learn a little bit more about upgrading Rom/Kernel/Radio.
I am running the following:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband version 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21_bamf4.4.2....
Build 1.13.605.7Das Bamf 1.5 Remix
Software 1.13.605.7
Can somebody tell me how to backup my phone entirely?
I would like to back it up with the intent:
* Install different kernel/radio/rom and keep the same android apps without reinstalling
each one individually.
or
* Restore the phone to its current state (if I should drop the phone and get a
replacement).
I do have titanium backup pro installed but it has never been used. Is this all I need?
I seem to recall that there is a backup feature on this phone that was discouraged....
Thanks in advance...
Anthony
The key for me is to
Use Nandroid (the backup feature in recovery) for a full image backup. Use Titanium to backup individual applications.
Before restoring nandroid backups, be sure to wipe cache and Dalvik (under advanced in recovery).
Nandroid takes nearly the entire phone back to the point of backup (houses everything you have on your phone's internal memory). Titanium allows backups to be restored on different roms. Some apps and many system apps don't play nicely with Titanium, but most from the market do play nicely with it.
Installing new kernels doesn't require wiping your data. Installing new/updated roms does. Installing themes usually does not, but there are exceptions.
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Thank you for the explanation.
When you refer to Nandroid & recovery feature, you are referring to Clockworkmod?
Per your input I updated to Rom Manager PRO and then simply selected "Backup Current ROM". I assume that this covers everything on the phone including radio/kernel/apps....
If there is anything else I need to do, please let me know.
Thanks again...
Yes, CWM is how you want to backup your phone entirely. I would recommend going into recovery and making a backup on your own instead of hitting the "backup my current rom" button in rom manager. The backup you make will be saved in a folder on your SD card named clockworkmod/backup. I always think its a good idea to move your backups to your computer and keep your two or three most recent backups on your sdcard.
As for backing up your apps, you can do a batch backup in titanium and when you load a new rom you will be able restore the app and any data associated with it. As a general rule I would only backup apps that require a lot of setup. Otherwise when you load a new ROM the apps you had previously installed will automatically restore (depending on the ROM). Just a tip, dont backup system apps. Doing so and switching versions, for example froyo to gingerbread, could cause many issues down the road even if they aren't immediately seen.
Lastly, when installing a new ROM you always want to wipe data/factory reset at least twice and wipe cache and dalvik cache twice each as well. If you have any issues dont hesitate to ask there are many people who are willing to help.
Go to ROM Manager, scroll down and select Backup Current ROM.
I use two apps for backing up and restoring installed apps; Titanium Pro and MyBackup Pro. For some reason MBP successfully restores the apps + data that fail using TP. For example, apps installed from the Amazon android market.
I create full backups with both TP and MBP, but when I need to restore ( after a complete data wipe and new Rom flash) I do the following:
1) skip setting up my Google account during the initial setup process that starts after user data has been wiped.
2) Uncheck the box that allows backups to Google's servers
3) After setup is finished, go into settings, privacy and deselect the automated backup options
( If I don't do the previous two steps, then Google starts pushing apps that may have been backed up and/ or apps that I have purchased. I don't want this to happen since I am going to do my own restore with data.)
4) I use TP to restore MBP only
5) I then use MBP to restore the rest of my user apps and data.
Some may disagree with my two backup app process, but it has been more successful for me than using either TP or MBP by themselves.
If something doesn't go right with MBP, I still have the full TP backup to pull from.
I do not bother backing up systems apps just because it seems to cause me too many issues when i attempt the restore. This means i have to redo any system settings, but that isn't a big deal to me.
Some of my favorite apps have backup features of their own. Folder Organizer and Circle Launcher are two of my all time favorites. Both restore nicely when i move to a new Rom.
Occasionally, i copy the TP, MBP, and Clockwork folders from my sdcard to a folder on my laptop just in case.
The above may sound like alot, but it goes pretty quick for me and I flash quite a bit ( at least once or twice a week when the device is new and the Rom cookers are really active).
Another thought, I have used MBP to successfully restore my android home screen settings for sense ( part of MBP's data bu ). My preferred launcher is LauncherPro, which has its own backup and restore function.
Finally, i always do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing to a new Rom. I also always do the backup right from clockwork mod recovery. I love the Rom Manager app and paid for the premium version quite a while ago, but i prefer to backup, wipe and flash from the recovery screen. Even if i download something that needs to be flashed using Rom Manager, I still reboot into recovery to perform the needed steps.
Hope this helps and if someone has another app backup/ restore routine they use successfully i would love to know the steps. I am open to learning something new.
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I'll go ahead and apologize for the length of this, I just want to provide as much information as possible.
I have a rooted Thunderbolt. My original issue was that I was having numerous restarts daily, and I would drop the mobile network all the time and thus couldn't send/receive texts or calls. I posted on AndroidForums and it was suggested to me to flash the rom and update the radio. My previous phone was a rooted incredible, but this was my very first time messing with the radio and/or rom. I did a nandroid backup and followed the guides to do both. I flashed the das bamf 2.1 rom with mr2.5 radio. Everything seemed to be ok, I didn't have any weird issues, but since I am new at this, I'm not completely sure if something went wrong or not. Here is the current problem I am now having...
I can no longer sync my google calendar, I keep getting the com.google.process.gapps force close error. And I get the com.android.phone force close error as well and will loose connection with the mobile network for a few minutes. Also I cannot get any pic messages to send/receive. And I just noticed that when someone calls me, my screen turns on, but it doesn't come up with the answer call screen it just lights up, and I can't answer the call.
I have tried searching for solutions but haven't found anything to work. I fixed permissions with rom manager, and have tried toggling sync on and off on the calendar and cleared data under manage applications with no success. Is there maybe something that I missed along the way or maybe some other solution to try that anyone can suggest? Or is there any additional information that I need to provide? Thanks!
Did you use Titanium Backup to restore apps? Also did you use ROM Manager to flash ROM or did you do it directly from Recovery? Also did you wipe before flashing the ROM?
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Did you use Titanium Backup to restore apps? Also did you use ROM Manager to flash ROM or did you do it directly from Recovery? Also did you wipe before flashing the ROM?
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I followed the guide on that site.... I did use titanium backup to restore the apps. I used rom manager to flash, but I did wipe before flashing (I think!). I have the new rom manager so what I did was download the zip files for the rom, move them to sd card and use rom manager's install rom from sd card, and selected backup, wipe data & cache and dalvik when prompted.
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droidforums.net/forum/thunderbolt-roms/140736-how-flash-roms-thunderbolt.html
I followed the guide on that site.... I did use titanium backup to restore the apps. I used rom manager to flash, but I did wipe before flashing (I think!). I have the new rom manager so what I did was download the zip files for the rom, move them to sd card and use rom manager's install rom from sd card, and selected backup, wipe data & cache and dalvik when prompted.
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Don't flash from ROM Manager. It seems to cause problems with some phones. Flash the ROM directly from Recovery (Make sure you wipe). Also when you successfully do that and everything is working, download the latest version of Titanium Backup from the market. The Titanium Backup included in the ROM caused problems for me as well. Just to be safe, download the ROM again.
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Don't flash from ROM Manager. It seems to cause problems with some phones. Flash the ROM directly from Recovery (Make sure you wipe). Also when you successfully do that and everything is working, download the latest version of Titanium Backup from the market. The Titanium Backup included in the ROM caused problems for me as well. Just to be safe, download the ROM again.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot later tonight and see if it fixes everything!
Haven't personally had any problems with RM on the Tbolt yet. Performs each function just fine. Since he said he wiped, sounds like he's restoring something from TiBu that's causing problems.
If it's lots of things with FC's:
Wipe and don't restore using TiBu. If you still get FC's then that's not the problem and you may want to reflash the rom.
If it's only a few things, you can wipe the data for those particular apps in Settings->Applications->Manage Applications
This might be off topic, but you mentioned Titanium backup. I had my first major issue with Titanium backup last night. I too am on MR2.5 and everything went fine when I flashed the ROM but after I ran Titanium backup my phone kept going to the HTC screen as if it was doing a fast boot. I ended up having to clear out all my Titanium backups and restoring my applications directly from market to get my phone back to par. I hope that helps someone.
Things that were mentioned and things to add.
*Always flash roms from CWM (Clockwork Recovery Manager) not ROM Manager
*Always do a full wipe before flashing any new ROM. That means, go into CWM, Wipe Cache Partition/ Factory reset, Wipe Data, go to advanced and select wipe davlik.
*Run the ROM for a couple minutes to test if it's running smoothly and can connect to Google market.
*If it's running well, then proceed to titanium backup.