[Q] Radio question - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to the Thunderbolt world. Previously learned all I know from my old OG Droid. Then relearned all from my Droid X. Now on a tbolt. Learned all about this now. Currently running das bamf 1.6.3 and loving it. Sure would love gingerbread but unsure how daily cm7 is.
Anyway my question is this whole bit about radios. I read thru the radio thread and many others but still unclear as to what/which I should be running. I took a screenshot of my settings/about page that shows my current radio.
I'm not in a 4g area. I have not had a single reboot since i got the phone 13 days ago. Been running bamf since 9 days ago. from what i can tell, I'm on the old radio but thats where i get confused. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13093559&postcount=1 has different setups and i'm unsure of what one to go with or if it is even necessary to change anything.
Any help would be great. I've been a lurker here for over a year but never needed any help until now. got to get my post count up haha. Thanks guys.

pitchblack86 said:
I'm new to the Thunderbolt world. Previously learned all I know from my old OG Droid. Then relearned all from my Droid X. Now on a tbolt. Learned all about this now. Currently running das bamf 1.6.3 and loving it. Sure would love gingerbread but unsure how daily cm7 is.
Anyway my question is this whole bit about radios. I read thru the radio thread and many others but still unclear as to what/which I should be running. I took a screenshot of my settings/about page that shows my current radio.
I'm not in a 4g area. I have not had a single reboot since i got the phone 13 days ago. Been running bamf since 9 days ago. from what i can tell, I'm on the old radio but thats where i get confused. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13093559&postcount=1 has different setups and i'm unsure of what one to go with or if it is even necessary to change anything.
Any help would be great. I've been a lurker here for over a year but never needed any help until now. got to get my post count up haha. Thanks guys.
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You're on the old radio, if you look in the baseband in the screenshot yours ends in r which is the stock version. The new one ends in w_1.

Im like you, i don't have 4G available to me either. I flashed radios and all i got was reboots. Flashed back to stock radio, reboots stopped, but tethering went to ****. I flashed the 2nd or 3rd radio down on the radio thread, an so far i have not had any reboots. So if its not broke, don't fix it, but if you must try the radios, do it in consecutive order down the list til you find one that works.

I really like the second radio from the top, it seemed to help my GPS lock on faster and I have a better signal. I also had issues of random reboots with the leaked new radio, so far with the second one on that page no reboots and increased performance.

Thanks guys. That's what I figured. Everything is working perfect...gps, calls, even 4G just worked driving thru easton pa. Nice to have everything working but addicted to this stuff lol.
Maybe I'll just leave well enough alone for now. Very happy with the tbolt but would love to see 2.3.3 or .4 with sense. Loving bamf remix but missing gingerbread from my Droid X. Damn phones. Wish I could have multiple haha.
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Figures. Soon as I go getting cocky, my gps starts acting up. If I go to Maps, it finds me just about instantly. However if I go to navigation and click maps or driving directions, it says searching for gps. After 2 minutes I just backed out of it. Nuts.
Gps (first time I tried navigation on 1.6.3) worked perfect on 1.6.1. Why would it come up instantly on maps but not nav? Damn. Downloaded all the posted radios. Hoping I didnt have to use any...
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Flashed all listed in link. Gps still says searching on every radio. Going with link 1 for now and see how it goes.
The last link in the link I posted is the stock radio/baseband, correct?
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I flashed the first radio on the list but it didn't update my LTE radio. Any thoughts why?

Unsure. I'm currently on the radio in link 1. Going great. Unsure of LTE changing. I don't have 4g here so I can't test if and how it works. Not sure how you check which LTE radio I have anyway... sorry I can't be more helpful.
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No matter what I do.. the software and build number don't change.
Thanks for the response.

Just got the Gingeritis Rom, which is a 2.1 sense 2.3.4 gingerbread Rom, and getting the radio to work properly was a pain.

Just noticed my 6 bar reception in Bamf changes from white and full at my house to none periodically. Seems like it does out for a second. Maybe time for stock kernel again...
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pitchblack86 said:
Flashed all listed in link. Gps still says searching on every radio. Going with link 1 for now and see how it goes.
The last link in the link I posted is the stock radio/baseband, correct?
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Credit goes to: kejar31 over at XDA
(I didn't write this, but i cant find the thread that I found it in)
Download and flash the ImproveGPSlock.zip found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7ujg6lws6k8cosj

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[Q] GPS signal lost on multiple roms

So I've done a lot of searching and haven't really found anything definitive. I've found that with some roms I'll lose GPS signal after a certain amount of time (say 10-30 minutes) and have to turn GPS off and back on or reboot the phone. I saw something about flashing a different radio may make a difference. Kinda just wanted to see other peoples thoughts on the issue or if maybe there is something else I can do before I go flashing a different radio.
Currently running CELB 4.1 and baseband 2.42.01.04.27 and I have the issue.. I've had it with most of Tazz's roms as well. KaosFroyo is the only one Ive used that I've never seen the issue with, but I'm really diggin CELB right now and this is the ONLY issue I've got with it.
Have you tried GPS status in the market? I know it will help you lock in a signal, so it would make sense that it would also help keep your GPS locked in.
Bayhill Jacket said:
Have you tried GPS status in the market? I know it will help you lock in a signal, so it would make sense that it would also help keep your GPS locked in.
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I have now.. I did the reset and download options in the program. Too bad this isn't something I can quickly test. I'll report back with the results. Thanks!
I have noticed this as well. Last time it happened to me it was 4:30 in the morning, and the "GPS lost" message came up about 180 seconds before I had to make two freeway changes in an area I'd never been before. (CELB 3.9 and same radio as your case). Fortunately for me I had reviewed the route, so I more or less knew what to do.
If I recall correctly, it has always happened after the Nav app had been running for a fair bit of time - at least 30 minutes or more.
However, I don't know if it is something about the root ROMs or not - I started using rooted ROMs back in March or so, so I really don't have a tremendous operating baseline on stock 2.1 ROMs to compare it to. Maybe it is a problem there, too!
If I recall correctly, the last time it happened, I just pulled up GPS Status and asked it reload the aGPS state (without exiting the Nav app), and the Nav app seemed to gracefully recover.
Annoying? Yeah. I don't know what can be done about it, though - like the "undead calls" problem, it happens so infrequently that it is hard to know whether or not a ROM change actually fixes the problem.
bftb0
I had the same problem with every 2.2 rom I used GPS with. I decided to go back to 2.1 because I have been needing GPS alot more often lately but I havent tested it out since I made the switch. I'll try it out today and report the results tonight.
This same thing seemed to happen on the 2.1, CyanogenMod 5 based ELB by Conap as well. If it is happening with all of the 2.2 ROMs, I wonder if it's just a CyanogenMod issue?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6812308#post6812308 (this was not the only person reporting it, if you search that thread.)
I really don't think it's ALL 2.2 CM roms though. I've gone on 7 hour car trips with Kaos Froyo without a single drop.. to and from. I've seen another theory somewhere around here about it being certain hardware revisions that act this way with certain software builds. At lease we've got a thread dedicated to this issue now.. maybe we can get something figured out.
Still don't know if the GPS status program helps.. I left navigation turned on for a bit sitting in my house and it stayed connected for the half an hour I left it, just don't think that's gonna be an accurate test with not moving around and all. If it doesn't work I will try a different radio.. I saw somewhere one guy had good luck with a specific older version radio. If that's what it comes down to I'll try.
I have been having issues with the GPS working on both of my phones while using 2.2 roms. I switched to 2.1 a few days ago and I used the GPS on my way to work this morning and didnt have any issues. I also had to flash Senseable a couple of months ago while on a road trip because I was tired of loosing the GPS signal every half hour. It may be a CM thing.
Im having the same issues as well. Haven't found a fix yet..
I've had this issue, after I flashed KaosFroyo(v36), and XTR(4 i think). I recently unrooted using Flashback21 v1 and flashed with the radio included. I have gone back to xtr 5 now and have had no lost gps in over a week. Don't have a clue as to why. hope it helps someone.
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I've had this issue, after I flashed KaosFroyo(v36), and XTR(4 i think). I recently unrooted using Flashback21 v1 and flashed with the radio included. I have gone back to xtr 5 now and have had no lost gps in over a week. Don't have a clue as to why. hope it helps someone.
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give us another update. is the gps problem still fixed for you? Thanks!
I have flashed the radio directly with the verizon zip file that is around and I still get inconsistent results But it always drops a signal eventually in about a 1/2 hour
Jrocker23 said:
I have flashed the radio directly with the verizon zip file that is around and I still get inconsistent results But it always drops a signal eventually in about a 1/2 hour
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I've seen it on several ROM's as well. From what i've messed with, it doesn't seem to be dependent on the autokiller memory preset, radio firmware, or amount of overclocking i'm doing. It doesn't seem to be dependent on how many programs are running either. I usually have nav and pandora running while i'm in the car, and sooner or later, the gps poops out.
I feel like it seems to happen less, now that i'm back to using the on-demand governor. but that could just be in my head.
I've had to go back to a 2.1 rom because of it. Its very annoying when the goa signal gets lost right before the exit ramp.
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Im thinking of going back to a 2.1 rom as well...
I have also seen the same results on any 2.2 or higher rom. I have since returned to XTRRom 5.0 and have not had a single problem with GPS on any of my jogging runs. I definitely think it is a CM thing. At least on my phone.
Using kaosfroyo v39 and I flashed that sprint phone radio on my eris and haven't had any gps issues. In fact, just the opposite. Mine would lock up before the v39 and the radio flash
I flashed that radio as well and today not one issue at all. Will test more tomorrow
I'm using the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio and still seeing it drop out.
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haganme said:
I'm using the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio and still seeing it drop out.
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Today I even flashed back to the July 2010 version (2.42.01.04.27). the gps dropped out almost every 5 minutes while i was driving around. that's the worst i've seen. So i flashed back to the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio again. I haven't seen very good navigation performance on the v1.1 gingershedbread overall, actually. my position on the gps nav doesn't update very often, although it seemed like the voice instructions were still pretty well timed as usual.

[Q] Still stuck with 1X Data after 5 hours of work...

Hey guys,
I've been working all night to try and fix an issue I had with Cyanogen Mod. I couldn't get the GPS to work with the radio I had. So I tried flashing MR3 and I still had no GPS but had 3G / 4G / WiFi connectivity. Going back to MR2 restored GPS but I couldn't maintain data and only had 1X / WiFi.
I've messed with countless radio updates and ROMs trying to get this running again. Going to post my phone's stats:
ROM Current: BAMF Forever 1.0.5
Android Version: 2.3.4
HTC Sense Version: 3.0
Software Number: 2.11.605.0
Kernel: 2.6.35.10-ge8d3693 [email protected]
Baseband version: 1.39.00.0627r, 0.01.69.0625r
I need you guys to link me to a ROM, the more light weight the better, that has 3G / 4G, GPS, and WiFi (with tethering). That's all I require =)
If I need a specific radio, a link to that would be great. Thanks a lot.
It's not the ROM...
VZW's LTE is spotty in and out in some areas. I noticed mine first thing this morning...
There are other threads on other forums about it.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/21/psa-verizon-users-reporting-data-outages-across-the-us/
I laugh at how they state that 3G is working fine, while LTE isnt.
I can hardly even get 1x again.
Word is if you make a phone call you can get 3g back afterwards. Worked on the wife's bolt. Worth a shot at least
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I have 3G just fine here. I don't get 4G service at this location so I force it to "CDMA Auto (PRL)" anyway.
dajogejr said:
It's not the ROM...
VZW's LTE is spotty in and out in some areas. I noticed mine first thing this morning...
There are other threads on other forums about it.
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I think you're right unfortunately. I wait 3 months to try and fix my GPS and the one night I try it, Verizon's entire data network is taking a crap.
I just assumed that the 1X was a radio issue. I now have 4G connectivity but it's definitely slower than it should be. About 1.4Mbps. My buddy right next to me clocked 10.4Mbps on his brand new Nexus...
I'd still love to get a recommendation on a ROM and Radio version to run. I hate this BAMF ROM.
Different ROMs and different radios will have minimal impact on 4g speeds, if that's your reason for wanting something different.
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LTE came back up in SE Michigan about 2 hours or so ago.
Upon reading the OP's next post, I tested my speed via the SpeakEasy Website's speed test, as I always do.
I don't know whether to **** or go blind, but inside my office just now I hit 22MB down and 4.5 up with 2 bars (out of 4)...I've never gotten more than 12 inside the office down...
Could be that no one is on it...could be a fluke, etc.
BAMF makes quality ROMs. I would bet it's not the ROM or the radio.
I've been using the latest radio leak found here in the developer thread.
I'm sure you already know this...but it's flashed in Bootloader, not recovery.
I'm almost 100% certain it's not the ROM...unless you got a bad download or something.
That being said...you are a few releases behind on their ROM. They are up to 1.10 Final now.
Good thing is there are a ton out there, it's what's best for you...not necessarily what we think.
dajogejr said:
I've been using the latest radio leak found here in the developer thread.
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Thanks I'll try to locate this.
dajogejr said:
I'm almost 100% certain it's not the ROM...unless you got a bad download or something.
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I agree. I always assumed it was the radio version I was running. I want a new ROM because I hate Sense and the stock look / feel.
dajogejr said:
That being said...you are a few releases behind on their ROM. They are up to 1.10 Final now.
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Interesting. I'll check it out.
dajogejr said:
Good thing is there are a ton out there, it's what's best for you...not necessarily what we think.
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You're right. My problem is there's too many and I'm tired of looking haha. I just wanted to flash a known good ROM and radio and get this over with. Tired of tampering with my phone.
New update:
I just flashed MIUI from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172235
and the MR3 radio from:
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...151-rs-approved-guide-thunderbolt-radios.html
It's clear from the screenshot provided on the MIUI thread that the dev is using the MR3 radio which is why I chose to flash that.
But now my GPS doesn't work? Holy crap this is getting so annoying. Either my GPS works or my 4G works, I can't have both -_-
I'm trying to get my post count up without spamming the boards so I can post in the development section ;x
EDIT: Just found this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20312888&postcount=1141
Anyone know if it's true?
Are you sure your data/gps is not a phone issue?
Believe it or not I know a few people that replaced their battery door and data/gps was fixed. Antennas are on the door...
In regards to your question about that link, it may work but remember some solutions work for some and not for others. Only real way to know is to try it...
Jrocker23 said:
Are you sure your data/gps is not a phone issue?
Believe it or not I know a few people that replaced their battery door and data/gps was fixed. Antennas are on the door...
In regards to your question about that link, it may work but remember some solutions work for some and not for others. Only real way to know is to try it...
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Holy crap this might be the problem. I just installed a longer life battery that has a new back cover for the phone. I'm going to go back to stock and see what happens.
Thanks for this recommendation!

[Q] Newest radio and base...

Hey guys,
Havent been on in a while, now im confused and need some help. Ive been running Shiftsense 1.4X since it was released months ago before DroidTheory vanished. i feel my radio is starting to act up now that big red flipped the 4g switch in my area. i came to look for an update rom to run, but now everything is different. It appears the radios are separated now and ive never flashed them that way and i just need a little advice on getting my phone back up to date. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
bking_soda said:
Hey guys,
Havent been on in a while, now im confused and need some help. Ive been running Shiftsense 1.4X since it was released months ago before DroidTheory vanished. i feel my radio is starting to act up now that big red flipped the 4g switch in my area. i came to look for an update rom to run, but now everything is different. It appears the radios are separated now and ive never flashed them that way and i just need a little advice on getting my phone back up to date. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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You can still find them together if you search hard. If you cant, just flash them one at a time after renaming, thru bootloader. Its really pretty simple. Several good roms out thsre. Eternity is fantastic with sense 3.5 and beats, shiftsense is awesome also, gingerbread rock is the latest leak stripped down and rooted, i keep it on my sd card for when i need that basic rom. Make sure you update your radios first. The mr4 3.0 leak and thunderstick fullblown are also great roms. Good luck dude.
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Does anyone happen to have a link to the most recent radios paired up as one flash through bootloader? I can't seem to find one. I'd really prefer flashing them separately last resort. Just a comfort thing I guess.
bking_soda said:
Does anyone happen to have a link to the most recent radios paired up as one flash through bootloader? I can't seem to find one. I'd really prefer flashing them separately last resort. Just a comfort thing I guess.
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I dont, but there just as easy to flash seperatly.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128
There is a newer radio than what is shown in that thread, look for the 2.11.605.9 radios.

Newly rooted TBolt won't find 4G?

Hey guys. Little new to the TBolt crew here.
I've been rooting for a bit. Did an HTC Hero, a DROID Eric, an Incredible... Now I've got a TBolt sitting here that I just rooted about an hour ago. It was running 4G just fine both before and after the root, but after installing a CM7 ROM (SFK's to be precise) I haven't seen 4G pop up since. I've tried a couple other CM7 roms, but nothing seems to make a difference - it only runs on 3G.
I was thinking it might be a radio problem, but admittedly I'm pretty novice with this stuff. I just flash what sounds interesting, and if it's not as stable as I'd like I find something else to flash. Does anyone have any ideas what's wrong? And what I can download to fix it?
EDIT: After giving up and deciding to go back to my backup of "stock" that I'd just made... now it's failing to properly back up. This wonderful error about data being corrupted with the only button available being "I'm Feeling Lucky" and still no 4G, only 3G. Now I'm at a complete loss.
I have a Nexus sitting next to me clearly connected to 4G just fine, so I know it's not a network issue. What the heck is going on here?
I'm sure you have, but never know... have you checked your wireless network settings?
Settings--Wireless & Networks--Mobile Networks--Network Mode.
Make sure LTE/CDMA is selected.
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most roms are built with a specific radio in mind i would try to flash one of the newer radios they work better drain less battery and are more compatible with rooted roms.

ICS WIFI

I'm kind of new with the TB. The used phone had the OTA on it when I bought it.
The WIFI on this phone really sucks. If I look at my router log, it constantly disconnects and reconnects.
I don't see anyone complaining about it. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with it so far. I think when he sold it to me he did a factory reset so I don't have the issues that others have.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
Make sure the wifi isn't set to disconnect when the phone sleeps. Its in the advanced wifi settings.
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Make sure the wifi isn't set to disconnect when the phone sleeps. Its in the advanced wifi settings.
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Thanks...I've been playing with that. I was hoping for something else that might help.
The only other thing I could suggest is changing the wifi scan interval. Lower the number so it scans more often but its also possible that ics and your router don't agree.
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Check your Radio versions--the Tbolt can be pretty temperamental if you aren't on the right combo. Santod has a link to the most recent ones over in the development section. Download, rename to PG05IMG.ZIP, reboot into bootloader and flash.
Also, are you sure you're running the most recent OTA? The earlier ICS builds were pretty janky.
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Check your Radio versions--the Tbolt can be pretty temperamental if you aren't on the right combo. Santod has a link to the most recent ones over in the development section. Download, rename to PG05IMG.ZIP, reboot into bootloader and flash.
Also, are you sure you're running the most recent OTA? The earlier ICS builds were pretty janky.
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I have realized that the latest isn't always the best. I have downgraded to the first official ICS radios and running so much better then latest.
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I have realized that the latest isn't always the best. I have downgraded to the first official ICS radios and running so much better then latest.
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Hey, whatever works; glad you found one that plays nice with your hardware. I'm not sure if it's still true, but in 2011-12 Tbolts had a reputation for being temperamental--it seemed like the radios were all very slightly different, hardware-wise, and things that worked on one handset wouldn't necessarily work on another. I've personally had good results with Santod's most recent pack (the decompressed version on infectedrom), but lots of people still swear by the radio from OTA 605.9.
Second this there were a bunch of tbolt that were defective
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