[Q] Unlock & Root - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the Atrix, but not a unlockcode yet. Can I root the phone before the unlock? Or is it wise to wait untill it is unlocked.

the order does not matter. unlocking is for freeing the imei from the carrier, rooting is for aftermarket software purposes.

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[Q] Problem about bootloader of SK17

Good day !
I have come across a situation of unknown bootloader of SK17 .
I found some shop in Hong Kong is selling some cheap SK17 (not sure if it is the same as SK17i) . I asked the shop keeper and they said that the bootloader is locked , but without SIM lock .
So , will someone confirm me if this situation is possible ? As I read some post in this form it indicate that locked bootloader is usually because it is branded , i.e. SIM locked . If it is SIM free version does it mean I can make the bootloader unlock ?
And , what if the system shows "Bootloader unlockable ? No" ? Is there any way to work around this issue to make the bootloader unlock ?
Thanks so much !
Rgds,
Kurz
Hi!
A simlock is something totally different to the bootloader´s lock.
No Simlock means that you can use any sim of any provider you like and who´s band is supported by phone´s hardware.
The bootloader ist locked by sony basically to prevent people from removing the sony Firmware even if it is not branded. A second issue is probably to prevent people from unlocking and playing with the firmware who do not know what they do.
Before the lock of the bootloader it was easy for everyone with one-click-tools or similar to root the phone. This could have led to many RMA procedures at Sony
But there must be a possibility to unlock it due to the terms of open source software.
So there is no need for you to unlock the bootloader as it takes any simcard anyway.
What the issue about sk17i sk17 and sk17a is, I do not know yet. But I´m curious about it
hi... how to know that your xperia mini pro unlock already in bootloader?
my rooting status is,
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
is it already unlock in bootloader?? or not
It meens that it is be allowed to unlock your bootloader. It means not that your bootloader *is* unlocked.
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
Thanks a lot !
Rgds,
Kurz
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mkmonkey said:
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
this is still confusing The simlock does not take care at all if there is a bootloader-lock or not. I never ask someone if I am allowed, definetly not mr. simlock
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
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okay, usually you'll go to the sony's dev site bootloaderunlockl.sonyericsson.com (don't know the correct sub, could be correct) and authenticated by your IMEI and email you'll get the unlock code. Without IMEI you won't be able to unlock. But even if you IMEI changed you can try the current IMEI. What I think is that Sony just saves the Email and IMEI into a mySQL Database to cope with the situation if your device enters RMA à la "you unlocked, your fault". It would be rather not the way that they look if your current IMEI really belongs to the device there. I would simply try it. BUT!
There is a post where a method is shown to root your ph0ne without unlocking the bootloader.
So here are both links:
rooting without unlocking not tested by me (even not yet read *covering*)
default way like I did it
Dear Poedel ,
Thanks , that's exactly what I wish to know .
So in worst case if bootloader is not going to unlock in normal way , I should use the test point function to bypass it and flash another room and firmware into it , and unlock the bootloader again ?
Thanks very much !
Regards,
Kurz
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[Q] simunlock after unlocking bootloader

My phone is currently sim locked to my carrier but I want to unlock my sim as I am planning on switching to a different carrier. I've been reading about unlocking the bootloader and it seems there are issues with using 3rd party simunlocks before unlocking the bootloader unless you are using an setool2 unlock.
setool2 is far to expesnive for me and I would rather use a cheaper 3rd party unlock code. My question is if i were to do the bootloader unlock first since my phone is still locked...and then after my bootloader has been unlocked apply a 3rd party sim unlock code, will this cause issues?
Everything i've been reading about is about people doing sim unlock FIRST and then doing bootloader unlock. But i want to do bootloader unlock first and then do simunlock AFTER.
smok3yjk said:
My phone is currently sim locked to my carrier but I want to unlock my sim as I am planning on switching to a different carrier. I've been reading about unlocking the bootloader and it seems there are issues with using 3rd party simunlocks before unlocking the bootloader unless you are using an setool2 unlock.
setool2 is far to expesnive for me and I would rather use a cheaper 3rd party unlock code. My question is if i were to do the bootloader unlock first since my phone is still locked...and then after my bootloader has been unlocked apply a 3rd party sim unlock code, will this cause issues?
Everything i've been reading about is about people doing sim unlock FIRST and then doing bootloader unlock. But i want to do bootloader unlock first and then do simunlock AFTER.
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I wanted to know the Exact same thing... I just got an unlock code from cellunlocker. but when i put in a diff sim card it says sim is perso locked. that's besides the point. I read that by doing bootloader unlock the cell manufacturer drops the IMEI i believe from the update list. Idk if they do it for the unlock code list too. or just drops your IMEI all together. I want to figure this out before doing a bootloader unlock...

What changes on phone when SIM unlocked ?

Hi Forum. May be my first post. I just SIM unlocked LG V10 on T-Mobile. Here is what I can say about the process that might be helpful to others:
1-Phones can be SIM locked by manufacturers so that service providers ensure that phones can only be used on their network or certain countries. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock for more information.
2-The process of unlocking requires the service provider to request unlock codes from the manufacturer. The service provider may have requirements to unlock ( e.g. in my case I had to put $100 balance on T-Mobile prepaid card ). This process took 5 working days at which time T-Mobile emailed me to inform me that they were ready for me to initiate unlock on my device.
3-On my device, I ran a "Device Unlock" app which connected with somebody ( T-Mobile ? ) and verified my phone was actually unlock eligible and viola. I'm SIM unlocked.
What I would like to know is what has changed on my phone ( e.g. firmware, some information on some partition ) ? Does this mean I can now root, change ROMs and my phone will remain SIM unlocked ? Any links to information about what actually happens when device unlocked would be appreciated.
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What I can tell you is that, if you did unlock permanent it is going to be unlocked even after rooting and installing new roms etc.
Now, I want to ask in this forum if the phone can be unlocked if the t-mobile unlock app says it is not eligible to unlock. I bought my phone on eBay, called t-mobile the phone is clean, but they could not unlock it for me because needs an account... So now I'm stuck trying to find a 3rd party unlock website to do it, 2 already said they could not... So I have the phone but can't use it. Any suggestions?
Yes, I can confirm that on this LG V10 having performed a SIM unlock and then having switched ROMs the unlock remained in effect.

Recommendation on purchase

I am planning to buy this phone. I do want to unlock bootloader, root etc. I wanted to know which model is best buy based on rooting and unlocking. Also anything else I should look for or keep in mind when purchasing.
Huawei have stopped supplying bootloader unlock codes.
Without code it will be impossible to root phone.

Unlockable Bootloader - options?

After rooting my Z2 and backing up the TA partition, I've discovered that the bootloader is not unlockable (it's a Vodafone branded device).
Is there a nefarious way in which to bypass this? I understand that the whole point is to keep it locked, but it's an old enough device so I may have missed where it's possible.
Otherwise what are my options for an up-to-date custom rom? As indicated, I've already achieved root and have TWRP installed. I tried flashing Lineage via recovery but got an E: unknown command [log] error.
I'm in the same boat unfortunately. I bought a used phone that had Vodafone UK. It was marked as SIM-unlocked, and that seems to be true; the service info doesn't show any filled checkmarks nor counters in SIM lock information. However, bootloader seems to be locked forever - flashtool reports "Bootloader status : NOT_ROOTABLE" and phone's service menus also say that rooting status is "bootloader unlock allowed: no".
I wasn't even aware there are Sony phones that are not SIM-locked but are still boot-locked without any way to unlock.
I would really want to upgrade from Android 6 to at least 7 because there are some specific apps that work only from A7. Wondering if there is any custom ROM that would run on stock A6 kernel but with everything else from A7? It should be possible to install such a ROM even on a bootlocked device, right?
Since posting I've discovered some answers. The bad news is that, no, custom ROMs are limited without an unlocked bootloader.
The potentially good news is that you can pay for an aftermarket SIM unlock, which has the side effect of also allowing the bootloader to be unlocked.
I've not tried it myself, but do a search for "Sony cable unlock credits" for some leads.
Yea I also am stumbling upon this same news, in my city there are some shady areas so I will ask around and see if anyone is capable of doing it and will let you know.
So far my phone has bootloader locked, sim locked with 3 attempts left so I will work on unlocking those and then rooting the phone and digging deep after
Lets cross our fingers that somethings comes up
So far online , I find only old videos and outdated information, websites down and nothing else.
One thing is for sure, if your bootloader can be unlocked, you just go to sony official website and follow their instructions and its free and easy,
But if it says ""bootloader unlock allowed: no" then...lets see what can we do.
Hey I am willing to pay, why not if its going to unlock the bootloader 100%

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