[Q] Restore via CWM vs. reflashing sbf - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Recently, I reflashed 1.26, rooted via gladroot, then updated via OTA to 1.57 then 1.83, retaining root both times. I immediately backed up my system via CWM. At that point, I was running stock, rooted 1.83, and did not download anything and did not change any settings.
My question is, if I want to uninstall a theme or gingerblur, or if I screw something up, would it be cleaner to re-flash 1.26 and re-do all the steps above, or will simply restoring from CWM put me in the exact same spot?
Thanks.

Nobody? I can't post in the development forum, otherwise I would have asked in Tenfar's thread.

beans3660 said:
Recently, I reflashed 1.26, rooted via gladroot, then updated via OTA to 1.57 then 1.83, retaining root both times. I immediately backed up my system via CWM. At that point, I was running stock, rooted 1.83, and did not download anything and did not change any settings.
My question is, if I want to uninstall a theme or gingerblur, or if I screw something up, would it be cleaner to re-flash 1.26 and re-do all the steps above, or will simply restoring from CWM put me in the exact same spot?
Thanks.
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I believe you can restore with CWM if you want to go back to the same point, but not if you want to restore apps and data to a later updated firmware revision.
I haven't tried this myself yet, but will the next time I clean off my phone for whatever reason............new "ROM" maybe. I up till now have been flashing back to 4.1.26 and then updating to keep everything clean.

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[Q] does clicking Install Recovery a second time override first time clicking it?

when updating from gingerblur 1.2 to 1.3 i went into the tenfar's recovery app and clicked Install Recovery again, even though I had already done this before install gingerblur, I want to try out the new grey blur and was thinking bout using recover to go back to my first after root install, but now that I have clicked it I don't want to end up just going back to 1.2
so basically two questions, can I recover back to my first pre gingerblur 1.2 version of atrix, or can I only go back to gingerblur 1.2 at this point since I overrided it?
and yes I know about sbf flashing I just am lazy and would like to know if I have the option to recover from multiple states
Install recovery actually initiates the recovery process....... it doesn't complete till the phone rebotes and you work through the flashing menu..... so pressing it multiple times wouldn't do anything I guess??
as for going back i don;t think that is an option anymore hence the flashing method said " are you sure" and also "This process can not be undone"..... not unless you flash a new sbf, which is can brick if not done properly.
i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
banes said:
i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
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Ahh yes, sorry, you can flash any rom over the top of gingerblur as long as it is the complete version, not an update( from say v1.xx to v2.xx), it has to be the complete v2.xx zip file.
Yes it is good practice to press install recovery every time you want to flash, just to make sure the process files haven't been altered, so that you don't end
up soft-bricking your phone...
I'm not sure you can recover multiple initial states, or even the last state given the flashing cannot be undone.... (though I've never tried....)
And as for reverting back to stock motoblur you will need to use the sbf flash, this is because no one has made a rom of the core files to restore the motoblur ui...
Sorry does this answer???
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
banes said:
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
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Yes you can do this. But if you didn't create backups via CWM before flashing any of the ROMS then I think you are SOL. Here's what you should have done:
flash 1.2.6 -> before update root -> update to 1.5.7 -> after update root -> install CWM -> create backup via CWM recovery menu -> flash gingerblur 1.x -> create backup via CWM recvovery menu -> flash gingerblur 2.x -> create backup via CWM recovery... etc etc.
unless you want to do a fresh 1.2.6 SBF flash every time you update to the newest ROM/Theme version. But the point I'm making is backup via CWM after every major flash/change/whatever.
CWM will save the backup on your SDcard in a folder named after the date of the backup. /sdcard-ext/clockworkmod/backup/<date of backup>

[HOWTO] Update Walkthrough for those with custom ROMs

Okay, so I see there are many people that have the same questions I had yesterday trying to apply this update with a custom ROM already on my phone. Here is what you'll need and how to get your phone updated. This isn't the only way to do it, but it's what I did and it was pretty easy. It was harder finding out how to do all of this, and in what order than actually doing the process.
It will take a little while to do this, roughly 30-45 minutes.
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update on to your phone using RSD Lite, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to root the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
This should get you all updated and with your custom ROM installed.
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
Thanks a lot for this....
spitefulcheerio said:
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
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Yes, use Titanium Backup to backup your User Apps and Data, not the system apps or data. And make sure to backup to your SD Card as the flash with wipe your internal memory and your backup will be lost. I had that issue and had to reinstall all of my apps. It's minor, but still a pain in the ass.
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
IrateCustomer said:
When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
Swiftks said:
that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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Maybe because I was on 1.5.7, and flashed 1.8.3 instead of going back and OTAing the phone. That would make sense because the OTA process probably does a backup/restore during the process. As mentioned in the OP, it's only one way to do it, but there are other options.
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
Datblkbro said:
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
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I've updated the link in the OP so you can download the correct file. My apologies.
Regarding 1.8.3 sbf, which of the sfb files from the link you provided is it? They vary in size. Thanks.
You want the one with the most hits and the ridiculously long filename.
It actually has 1.8.3 buried in the name of the file. It's a few from the top.
THANK YOU this has been a big question mark for me ever since 1.83 came out. Fantastic guide.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Did the GingerBlur 3.1 get fixed when it comes to the Webtop mod? Cuz I read something about it having a problem with actually working on this Rom? Maybe that was on the 3.0, so I figure 3.1 fixed it?
PLease just a simple "yes it works" or "No, it doesn't" will suffice
Thanks
Just wanted to post my initial experience with using RSDlite to update afterting and gingerblurring it.
I followed your how to as much as I could (You should provide a link to RSDlite instructions, I had to search for it because I didn't know how to do it exactly... not a big deal but it would make it easier/idiot proof)
When I first updated via RSDlite, something must hve went wrong. At first, A triangle and lil android was haunting me on my screen... so I went to reboot.. **** [I thought I bricked it]... Then I restarted it again... DOUBLE ****... Couldn't load into recovery... I restarted a third time and it loaded up(**** YES). But for some odd reason, it said I still had to update (even though it said the firmware was @ 1.8.3.)
Everything seemed to work fine, and was able too root and ginger blur it. About a few hours later, wifi seemed wonky (kept randomly disconnecting and the update dialog came up every 15 minutes).
I ended up reflashing to 1.2.8 and OTA's all the way up to 1.8.3 and then re-rooted and blurred it. No problems since the full refresh
Hopefully everybody elses experience goes better than mine!
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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You can use Uninstaller for Root (I found it on the Market), and you can uninstall from there if you wish. Personally I see no real reason to remove it, but you can if you need to with the above referenced Uninstaller. There are a few others that can do it, but UfR is free, which is clearly a win.
564mb for the sfb??? Thats freaking huge
GreyBlur on 1.8.3
After following the steps I still show
"System Version 4.1.57MB860.ATT.us"
rooted and sideloading enabled by gladroot then flashed greyblur 2.1....little help for the n00b?

[Q] how to update to 1.83 after root

I have an AT&T Atrix and have done very minor mod's. Gingerbreak to get root, the radio fix, and allowed tethering by changing the true/false flag in the config.
Runing 1.57 at the moment and figured I should get around to updating to 1.83 (i had frozen this with titanium backup), however it fails and I get the triangle/exclamation mark/robot picture on boot and have to pull the battery and restart.
Am I going to have to somehow go back to defaults and wipe phone to be able to update? If so how?
Help appreciated, this is my first android phone
I was having the same problem. So i flashed back to 1.26 thru rsd lite and then with the phone completely unmodded I downloaded and installed the OTA update. Then proceeded to apply mods.
Quickest way would be the 1.8.3 sbf followed by the 1.2.6 sbf then ota to 1.8.3 in a close second. Both options wipes the phone AFAIK so backup user data
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SBF to 1.8.3 Gingerbreak. Done. wipes your internal sd, so backup.
Great thanks for the advice, I had a feeling I was going to have to reflash it in some way.
ok I picked up some directions from brief mobile (it wont let me show the link) ... however it keeps failing during the update.
Everything works fine does exactly what the guide says, it start executing and then after about a minute or so it fails.
Anyone have some better directions or another sbf file? Preferably an sbf for 1.83?
Never mind, sorted it out, just my work computer being retarded for some reason.
GladRoot is still my preferred method of root, whenever moto releases a new update all I have to do is accept it and run afterupdate.bat.

[Q] Cannot flash sbf to Atrix running Gingerblur

Guys I'm new to the forum but have been messing around with custom pseudo-roms for the Atrix for a little while now. I was running Adeo, then Gingerblur, then Greyblur all without a hitch when I heard about the new OTA update coming to the phone and Gingerbread coming up, so I wanted to go back to any build that would allow me to get the HSUPA update as well as the gingerbread update, but when I went to flash my phone to sbf using rsdlite, it said internal programming fail and nothing else happened. I installed gingerblur over greyblur in an attempt to see if it would flash, but nothing. Have done a factory data wipe, still can't flash. I can't even get into the stock Android Recovery, all that comes up is a triangle and exclamation point. Could someone please help me out here, I'm running gingerblur on a rooted Atrix on 1.5.7 and cannot get it to flash sbf, all I want to do is go back to stock att rom for the coming updates.
Thanks,
BK
Hey,
I have the same exact set up as you. It seems vague in your post if you re-flashed back to 1.26, and that may be why you're getting errors? Every time I update roms, I re-flash to 1.26 using the method in the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
Then I ran Gladroot to unlock, enable sideloading, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
Downloaded and install the 1.83 update online (not on-air because I didn't get prompted)
http://www.motorola.com/consumers/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=9098bc50a569f210VgnVCM10000081bbb00aRCRD
I ran the 'afterupdate.bat' on Gladroot after installing the update.
And I now have 2.2.2 / 1.8.3
Thanks bud, what I ended up doing was trying to manually uninstall gingerblur and greyblur and the adeo rom by using scripts etc but it never worked. My phone started acting weird, the home button stopped working, no 3g connectivity, it would say I have superuser but it wouldn't be rooted... something was seriously messed up. I tried to get into the stock android recovery but it wouldn't boot, I think something was corrupted. I knew sbf files rewrite system and boot data, so I went into tenfar's custom recovery (after rooting for the 10th time) and deleted system and boot data, system data was deleted, but boot data had an error. I wiped the caches and all and I tried to sbf flash to 1.8.3 but nothing and the phone bricked. I then tried it on another computer with more memory than mine (mine was running kind of low because of a linux partition) and the flash worked and I'm on 1.8.3. I think I'll wait for official gingerbread and unlocked bootloader in July before I mess with my phone again.

Anyone getting Wifi Error since OTA?

My phone seems flawless, my girlfriend's is acting up.
Phone was rooted and unlocked, and we did a Nandroid in order to take the RUU and restore to stock and take the OTA.
So, the phone has never run a ROM or a custom kernel, it was just unlocked, rooted and de-bloated. That's it.
Did an RUU, booted the phone, took the OTA, re-locked it, rooted and then restored her Nandroid. I read many times that people did this and that because things like the Radio were not overwritten by a Nandroid, that it was ok. Some people even restored their ICS based ROM this way... so that they restored the backup but still had the new radio, etc...
Hers seemed fine, but yesterday her Wifi stopped working. Reboot the phone, same thing. You can't enable it, when you try, it just says "error"...
Phone is running stock OTA, no kernal mods, nothing. Just unlocked and perm root, debloat, exact same setup as my Rezound.
Any idears??
When the nandroid was restored it probably restored the old kernel modules. If you want to run the new stock kernel on there now follow this guide to get you those modules and it should restore your wifi:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467793
feralicious said:
When the nandroid was restored it probably restored the old kernel modules. If you want to run the new stock kernel on there now follow this guide to get you those modules and it should restore your wifi:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467793
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Very cool, files are downloaded, I will flash them when she gets home.
I was under the impression that a Nandroid didn't overwrite the kernel, I thought that the only way to do that was with the .zip file in hboot. But I guess that maybe modules of the kernel can be overwritten?
Either way, I will try these files out. I can probably email her and walk her through it, she is pretty tech savvy.
Yeah, I guess the modules are integrated in the ROM or something. I know that for me, I wanted to keep my old kernel to play with OC/UC etc... and to get my wifi back I had to reflash the exact same kernel I was using before, not even the old stock kernel would work. And then I remembered that that kernel did have some extra folders that it flashed prior to the actual boot.img flash, so maybe it altered the modules or something, but definitely is more integrated than I originally had thought.
I'm having the same error problem.
I was stock rooted and used ota rootkeeper app to temp unroot, get the update and go back to root. Im still getting the error message.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my Rezound.
putney1477 said:
I'm having the same error problem.
I was stock rooted and used ota rootkeeper app to temp unroot, get the update and go back to root. Im still getting the error message.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my Rezound.
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Afer you rerooted did you restore a nand?
Did you relock before the OTA?
Have you tried the module solution in post #2? Even if you didn't restore a nand it can't hurt to give that a shot.
I didn't make or restore a nandroid backup. I didn't relock. I just used otakeeper app and followed the instructions with it.
Did I screw something up?
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