Any news on tiered 4g? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm concerned that they will tier it before I get a 4g phone (hopefully sgs2). Has anyone heard anything about this?
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Unlimited LTE hotspot until June 15 with either the Charge or Thunderbolt, so not for another month... But I'm 99.9% certain Verizon will pull unlimited LTE *before* any dual-core phone is released on this network.

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Any word in sprint coverage?

Anybody here have any information regarding why sprints coverage has started to really suck in some areas? I've heard people talked about towers going down or what not and speeds decreasing. Is sprint planning on enhancing their coverage with lte but leave 3g in the dust or are they planning to upgrade everything over the next 5 years or so while they roll out their lte?
Anybody from sprint on here with any solid information?
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If you go to the sprint website you can see what towers around you are being upgraded and such. They say 3G will see an improvement also, but we will have to wait and see.
Heres the link https://network.sprint.com/
Thanks I'll check that out when I get home
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I can tell you Sprint's 3G ia AWFUL here (DeSoto, MO) . I have to force roam to get any data usage here. Normally it stays i 1xrtt. Yes I am using PRL 11115
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We upgraded our phones awhile back (live in the Greenville, SC area) all the phones were 4g however our area doesn't have 4g yet. We have to pay the additional $10 per phone (3) for 4g access. Sprint guy assured us our area would have it soon. After months of paying an additional $30 finally got aggravated enough to call them to see what was up with it. Sprint rep informed us that 4g service isn't coming to our area anytime soon!
What happened? Does anyone know what's going on with Sprint rolling out 4g towers?
They are abandoning Wimax and going with lte.
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lmlee said:
We upgraded our phones awhile back (live in the Greenville, SC area) all the phones were 4g however our area doesn't have 4g yet. We have to pay the additional $10 per phone (3) for 4g access. Sprint guy assured us our area would have it soon. After months of paying an additional $30 finally got aggravated enough to call them to see what was up with it. Sprint rep informed us that 4g service isn't coming to our area anytime soon!
What happened? Does anyone know what's going on with Sprint rolling out 4g towers?
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Sprint has stopped WiMax roll out completely, if you don't have it, you ain't gettin it.
They are currently rolling out LTE - how long ago did you get these phones? They have known that WiMax Roll Out stopped months ago.
Also, your $10 isn't for 4G, its for "Premium Data Services" and all smart phones, with the exception of the Samsung Replenish and one other device now have this extra charge regardless of 4G access. It is true that the charge started with the EVO and Epic that are 4G devices and 4G was the initial cause of the charge, but it has now rolled to all new contract smart devices.
The LG Optimus S is 3G, and also gets the $10 charge, so yeah, its not for 4G access.
its because so many people were rooting nd using tethering apps instead of paying extra
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PSA: verizon to kill unlimited data 3g to Lte upgades

Just in case anyone who still has a 3g phone wants to keep unlimited data they may want to upgrade now.Verizon is killing unlimited grandfathered 3g when you upgrade to LTE devices starting mid summer. If nothing else there'sgoing to be a ton of angry iPhone customers this fall
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I honestly hope verizon just gives the bird to apple and there subsidies.
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TheVerge is reporting Verizon's CFO made The announcement at this mornings investor meeting.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/16/3024472/verizon-kills-unlimited-data-lte-upgrades
Thank god I moved on in time
Just to clarify, we aren't getting our plans taken away are we? That's how Android Guys made it sound. They quoted "Everyone will be on shared data". Kinda gave me a panic moment
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HA that sucks. although, that's great for me as a sales person cuz now i can get the attention of all my customers who have 3g and be like, hey, your update is soon, you should do it now to save your unlimited data.
actually that makes my job harder. damn you verizon!!
I'm curious as to what will happen to people with Unlimited 4G plans. Will they be brought in with the 3G upgrades too once this goes live?
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I'm curious as to what will happen to people with Unlimited 4G plans. Will they be brought in with the 3G upgrades too once this goes live?
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Yeah, the next obvious step is to kill unlimited 4G plans.
Eff that.
ugh. i'm unlimited. honestly, if they do kill unlimtied for us and offer family share plans, then i won't be so mad, and i'll jump on a family share data plan so my mom can get a smartphone..she's wanted one but doesn't wanna pay 30 a month for data lol
Yea, Seems Vzn is doing everything they can to slowly kill off any Unlimited data
Wait, so here's my question--my brother has in iphone on an unlimited plan. If we activate a 4G phone on his line, do they consider that a 3G plan because the plan was purchased with a 3G phone? Or would it be a "4G" plan? What if I activated his iphone on my line? Would it magically become a 3G plan then?
from what i understand, if you have a 3g phone and put a 4g phone on after this is done, then yeah you're not unlimited anymore.
if you drop down to 3g after this is done, they'll prob keep you unlimited until you go back to 4g, then you'll be tiered
like we've all got "3g unlimited" plans because we all got unlimited whenonly 3g phones were out..now we're on 4g with teh same "3g" plan
actually, i bet ANY change to data after this happens will drop you to tiered and not let you keep unlimited..even going down to 3g i bet they'll tier you
jayochs said:
from what i understand, if you have a 3g phone and put a 4g phone on after this is done, then yeah you're not unlimited anymore.
if you drop down to 3g after this is done, they'll prob keep you unlimited until you go back to 4g, then you'll be tiered
like we've all got "3g unlimited" plans because we all got unlimited whenonly 3g phones were out..now we're on 4g with teh same "3g" plan
actually, i bet ANY change to data after this happens will drop you to tiered and not let you keep unlimited..even going down to 3g i bet they'll tier you
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I moved to Verizon on the Thunderbolt and got an unlimited plan--my first Verizon phone was a 4G phone.
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Looks like even unlimited 4G plans will be moved over.
"LTE is our anchor point for data share. So, as you come through an upgrade cycle and you upgrade in the future, you will have to go on to the data share plan. And moving away from, if you will, the unlimited world and moving everyone into a tiered structure data share plan."
free upgrade
I got an email 2 days ago for a free early upgrade to a 4g phone. Yesterday I went and got my free HTC Rezound phone, all I had to pay was activation fee. When I asked how I got the deal they said they are trying to get more people on the 4g LTE network. I got to keep my unlimited data plan.
Good thing I gots me some unlimited 4g
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If they try and take my unlimited away when my upgrade comes at the end of the year, I will go back to sprint. They were not as good as Verizon, but it is better than being on a tiered plan.
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So, what if I bought a new 4G phone off contract and activated that myself? Bye bye unlimited?
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antp121 said:
Good thing I gots me some unlimited 4g
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It sounds like they'll be nuking those too. It's just going to take a bit longer.
Edit: All I know for sure is if they are killing my unlimited 4G plan, I'm going to be streaming pr0n to my phone 24/7 until they do. In a childish attempt to use as much bandwidth as possible, mostly as a f*ck you.

[Q] Q: Should I drop my SERO plan for Solavei/Tmobile?

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I currently am on SERO-P with my Evo 3D and have a t-mobile phone on Solavei.
I'm thinking of dropping my SERO plan and paying the $80 ETF since SERO is not transferable.
With SERO, I get unlimited data, but I can't ever get 4g where I am reliably in the St. Louis MO metro area and 3G is so slow.
With Solavei, for $49 I get unlimited talk, text, and 5GB of data (then 2G).
I'm torn because of the truly unlimited, not throttled data that may get better down the road.
Your thoughts?
I have never heard of Sero. What network do they use?
Unless it's changed recently Solavei is throttled at 4gb not 5.
Edit: wait you said evo 3d so I assume it's running off of sprints network.
Idk I guess if you think you can get by with the 4gb of full speed data I would say go for it.
One other question to ask yourself though is if you will be able to use sprints 4G network when it's launched in your area and how soon it will be available in your area.
Since you are in St Louis I would think you would be getting sprint LTE fairly soon.
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bpollina said:
Unsure where to post, so feel free to move if needed.
I currently am on SERO-P with my Evo 3D and have a t-mobile phone on Solavei.
I'm thinking of dropping my SERO plan and paying the $80 ETF since SERO is not transferable.
With SERO, I get unlimited data, but I can't ever get 4g where I am reliably in the St. Louis MO metro area and 3G is so slow.
With Solavei, for $49 I get unlimited talk, text, and 5GB of data (then 2G).
I'm torn because of the truly unlimited, not throttled data that may get better down the road.
Your thoughts?
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Solavei caps at 4GB and my experience so far (just four hours) has been abysmal. No roaming as promised on my HTC One S. 4G not as fast as Tmobile Prepaid 4G.
How many minutes do you talk per month?
Sprint's network is brutal. There are too many decent GSM options offering HSPA+ at the same or better price than SERO that it's certainly worth investigating. Have fun / good luck.
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busab said:
I have never heard of Sero. What network do they use?
Unless it's changed recently Solavei is throttled at 4gb not 5.
Edit: wait you said evo 3d so I assume it's running off of sprints network.
Idk I guess if you think you can get by with the 4gb of full speed data I would say go for it.
One other question to ask yourself though is if you will be able to use sprints 4G network when it's launched in your area and how soon it will be available in your area.
Since you are in St Louis I would think you would be getting sprint LTE fairly soon.
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SERO is a type of lowcost sprint plan.

Data Throttling?

So with Verizon now having the share plans to eliminate the unlimited plans, thus squeezing more money out of us, I agree with the many on here that say they can have my unlimited when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. So with that being said, I used to be big on swapping roms with my Incredible, but never really messed with my Rezound other than upgrading to the Global RUU, unlocking and rooting it so I can tether wirelessly. Now that an LTE tower was recently put near my house, I can get 4g speeds. I want to cancel my broadband in the house save a bundle and just tether through my phone. I know with my Dinc, there were many Roms with data throttling removed or zip files out there to flash that could remove it. So my question is does VZW still throttle, and if they do, is there a data throttle removal for the Rezound out there?
They don't throttle 4g connections. At least that's what the rep told me. Theres no way to remove throttling from the phone. Vzw does it on there end according to congestion on the tower your connected to using your esn. And as soon as the tower is not so congested you get bandwidth back. But the rep told me if you have a 4g phone you don't get throttled, even if your only connected to 3g. That's coming from a rep over the phone, so take it for what its worth.
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Texas is right.
VZW doesn't throttle 4g, and you have to be one of the top 10% of heavy users.
Also, throttling is done on their end, nothing to do with the phone.
Yeah I only get throttled in the day when I'm downloading massive files. I have downloaded 15gb torrents at night before and Verizon doesn't throttle me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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It's related to the terms of their FCC license. There's lots of restrictions placed on their ability to restrict use of the 700MHz band they use for LTE because of the terms of their license. They also can't restrict tethering on LTE, though they can still do so on 3G.
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One of the apps that's rumored to be related is an app called TetheringGuard.apk and its in system app I believe.
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From T-mo to VZW with grandfathered unlimited data via Assumption of lease

Would like to know if any body here personally went from a note 2 from another carrier to note 2 on vzw via assumption of lease with a grandfathered data plan.
i'm currently a tmobile note 2 owner trying find someone i can purchase a vzw grandfathered data plan and would like to hear experiences from people that switched over this way.
I've swapped around between various carriers without incident. I can't tell from your question phrasing, but if you are intending to bring a handset from a different carrier and use it on VZW, it won't fly. Verizon only allows VZW branded gear on their network....if you're planning to get or already have a VZW Note 2, you're golden.
Regarding the assumption of a grandfathered data plan, it's no big deal. Just be aware that you'll have to switch phone numbers to get the data plan, you can't port in a number and use that data plan on the ported number. The data plan follows the particular line it is attached to; you can change the number once you have it, but you can't swap a data feature around between different lines on your account or any other account.... I've tried.
Anyway, as long as you're cool with a VZW handset and a new number, it's really straightforward.
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yes i will be buying a vzw phone. no subsidies here. if i purchase someones grandfathered 3g account from a 3g phone, will i be able to just pop in a 4g lte sim and get lte? or does the account have to already be a 4g lte account? this is something i don't completely understand yet as with t-mo lte is just a matter of having the hardware or not.
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yes i will be buying a vzw phone. no subsidies here. if i purchase someones grandfathered 3g account from a 3g phone, will i be able to just pop in a 4g lte sim and get lte? or does the account have to already be a 4g lte account? this is something i don't completely understand yet as with t-mo lte is just a matter of having the hardware or not.
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Vzw stopped allowing 3g users with unlimited upgrade to 4g unlimited last I checked. They made a big deal about this about a year and a half ago. You'd have to manage to get someone's unlimited 4g account.
Has this happened recently (3-4 months)? I bought phones off of Craigslist & eBay. I switched my kids lines from 3G to 4G & kept their unlimited data. This was in June. My daughter had a Motorola Droid 2 & I got her a SGSIII. My son had a Motorola Droid X2 & he now has a GNex. Both are HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY!!
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