With this new 2.3.4 Leak out for our Thunderbolts. I was wondering from past leaks from HTC about how long till we actually see an OTA? If said particular leak makes it through all testing. Month? 2? 3? anyones guess ?
I'm unrooted with the new OTA that rendered my TBolt with random rebooting and battery life decreased significantly. I don't think I want to root just yet or a least until the phone isn't updated anymore by HTC.
Any Thoughts?
I dont know, most of my experiences with leaks stem from the fascinate. Thats a different story though. Htc said by the end of June, so id expect it by at least mid July. If I put money on it i'd say mid June though.
running the leak now...it's a beta for sure but i'm gonna keep as my daily driver so they aren't too far...however it between HTC and Verizon it's gonna be a while still. I'd go ahead and root cuz the android community is way ahead of the OTA's...i've been running the leaked version of the OTA for over a month...now i'm on the new gingerbread leak.
besides once you root, you can pick and choose what you want...if gingerbread has too many bugs, i'll just flash back to one of the custom rom's and kernels...either way you're far above anyone who is unrooted...good luck!
patdroid1 said:
running the leak now...it's a beta for sure but i'm gonna keep as my daily driver so they aren't too far...however it between HTC and Verizon it's gonna be a while still. I'd go ahead and root cuz the android community is way ahead of the OTA's...i've been running the leaked version of the OTA for over a month...now i'm on the new gingerbread leak.
besides once you root, you can pick and choose what you want...if gingerbread has too many bugs, i'll just flash back to one of the custom rom's and kernels...either way you're far above anyone who is unrooted...good luck!
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1. is it possible for the eris to get motorola blur? i dont know if its possible i just would like to actually try it out without having to pay hundreds to get a devour.
2. if rumors are true the official update for 2.1 is going to be released today but i'm not holding my breath. i'm running the latest 2.1 ROM that was released on here like 2 weeks ago and i love it i do but i'm just tired of the bugs and such and i know an official release will fix most of the issues. is it possible to update my phone manually when it comes out on the verizon or HTC or will there be another way.
thanks for all the help
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1. is it possible for the eris to get motorola blur? i dont know if its possible i just would like to actually try it out without having to pay hundreds to get a devour.
2. if rumors are true the official update for 2.1 is going to be released today but i'm not holding my breath. i'm running the latest 2.1 ROM that was released on here like 2 weeks ago and i love it i do but i'm just tired of the bugs and such and i know an official release will fix most of the issues. is it possible to update my phone manually when it comes out on the verizon or HTC or will there be another way.
thanks for all the help
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updating manually is an option, but if you just wait until someone ports the "official OTA" over to a new rom, you won't have to lose root. As far as motoblur goes, I'm sure its possible, but the demand for such a port isn't very high, so I doubt anyone is even looking into it.
ps. I had to LOL a little and the words "latest 2.1 rom" and "2 weeks ago" in the same sentence. Most of the big boys have updated their roms 2 or three times in the last week alone! LOL
lol yeah. anywho how do i go about manually updating it? just get it off htc or wait to get the update message?
This is not development related.
Moved.
If "No", please let us know why you chose to hold off, and if/when you plan to upgrade to the leak/ and or OTA.
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
Anyway, I also am holding out because
1) Joelz (I hope) will be making a patch for us folk who are waiting.
2) I have been getting better batt life on GB
3) hasn't been 3 days yet.. but now that the firmware is out, I may be editing this post in a couple days.
Reminds me of the 3 day rule for not calling a chick after you get her number. HAH!
I went ahead and updated....we'll see how this goes.
I just upgraded to CleanROM 3.7, so I'm going to wait for the official release of ICS before I flash a next ROM.
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I voted No... ICS is not that big of a deal for me. My phone is #1 a business tool and having it work is more important that how it looks. That being said, I am quite content right now with GB, how the device looks and works. Battery life is acceptable and I can use all of the tools I need to use. It is one very AWESOME phone as it is right now.
This might change if I see a lot of users using it without a lot of issues, but I might just wait until the Official OTA arrives.
There are more things to life than ICS....
Never ending... after the masses gets ICS they will want JB and then they will demand KLP.... it never ends.
I did almost bricked in the process as well
But all in all I say its worth it. We atleast have a method to downgrade the hboot if needed
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I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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You can ruu back with the mainver fix
Unless you haven't unlocked it yet
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Nope still on GB. when the ota comes and custom kernels for ICS ill take the plunge. Still hoping for cm9 as well.
I have upgraded but I'm having trouble with the service.
Phone keeps telling me to insert a sim card when I already have one...
Just saw in Scotts ics thread you can't go back to Gingerbread after Ics ruu (he even updated his op).....so I will be holding off....at least until gets proven otherwise
Edit: now Scott is saying you can go back but there's a sd issue...however he said there is a fix....
so looks like I will keep on waiting for everyone else to be the guinea pigs lol
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I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
I just hope there will be a Rom that doesn't require the ics ruu as a prerequisite.
I am sure those of us with our tin foil hats would really appreciate it.
Also I can only imagine the forums whenever the official release comes and by chance it doesn't play nice with the leak.
Looks like gb for me, unless there's a Rom that doesn't require this leak. Guess time will tell...hopefully everything works out for everyone but I will just err on the cautious side.
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I voted "no", though it is tempting, but its still early development.
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I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
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lol i was just messin around on the polls. please vote
andybones said:
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
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That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
I did last night. Scary but easy. Clean Rom 4.0 seems absolutely flawless this far. Battery is great. Stopped using extended battery its so good lol.
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new firmware
I got the AndroidPolice all-stock zip of the new VZN ICS. Experimented all day with it including the TAMPERERED warning, and other stuff. Found out that when 100% bone stock, the new ICS will allow you to freeze/eliminate all the things I don't use, like VZN Navigator, Twitter, Trneds, NFLMobile, Lets Golf,Hot Pursuit, Freindstream, etc. So, I am ReLocked, and stock and happy because a bunch of bloaty things don't start and can't be seen in the app drawer. Bottom Line: the new ICS is gonna be so great, some folks won't have to unlock to get exactly what they want. Warning: if you check it out, getting back to GB isn't impossible, but it's a hassle.
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That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
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Yessir, no root was for me. lol, after about a week, I ended up calling CS and getting a refurb, they said nothing about the phone being on a leak lol.
i would rather wait a get the official OTA firmware. rather than some leaked ****.
Hi I'm prepping my phone for a non tech person to purchase. Need help determining the best/ most stable Ics rom
Any help is appreciated
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Honestly, I wouldn't give a rooted phone to a non tech person. They won't know what to do if problems arise, and they could take an update or do something that could permanently brick the phone.
i just want an ICS rom that doesn't randomly reboot on me
I agree with sitlet. Put a stock rom on it, sell it, call it good. If they want ICS let them flash it. Its better to sell an up-to-date stable phone than something that hasn't even been released yet.
"We're coming from a pure power source."
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Hi I'm prepping my phone for a non tech person to purchase. Need help determining the best/ most stable Ics rom
Any help is appreciated
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If you want to still install a custom Rom, I recommend either MeanRom or Viperrom (for CDMA). Remember though that although these work well, they are based on a non Sprint leak, so there could be issues for a non tech person.
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As of Today, Sprint has announced that the official ICS build will be out in June/July.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/htc-posts-faq-about-ics-update-for-current-htc-evo-devices.html
Personally, I would give them a FULLY functional, stable ROM. The ICS leak roms have a lot of issues right now. Major functionality is being made to work (wifi, timestamps in sms, etc.). I prefer a very stable, functional MeanRom 2.17 OTA base until we see some custom roms/kernels on the ICS Sprint OTA release.
You dont want to give them a ICS rom that has issues bc they wont be able to update and flash new version of the ROM. Have you looked at the changelog for some ICS roms? Check out ICS MeanRom for example. It has a lot of major fixes applied in the last few releases. IMO, ICS is not ready for prime time and especially not for a newb who cant properly troubleshoot and flash new roms.
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Hi I'm prepping my phone for a non tech person to purchase. Need help determining the best/ most stable Ics rom
Any help is appreciated
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It would help to know if you are talking CDMA or GSM?
Personally i use king cobra GSM and it's rock solid.
I gave my mum my old desire HD which is rooted and oc'd to 1.5ghz, it's never crashed, but then again, if it did i could always pop over and flash the rom again for her.
If the phone is going out of your hands and into someone you'll never see again, then i'd leave it in a state where it can be s-off'd and re rooted but isn't.
If it's someone you know then just leave it with a custom and show them how to reflash it if a problem occurs.
I'm sure they're not that much of a technophobe to read clear instructions.
Run superwipe.
Flash rom
Reboot
Sign into google
Use phone.
Not too hard
I'd love to know what's on ICS that it warrants having an unreleased, unstable build?
Just leave a stock GB-ish rom on there and I guarantee they will have a better experience for it. And if you give them stock, once the update is ready, they'll get it, and it will be the one that is supposed to be released and actually stable.
Or you could give them some piece of junk now, that's running dual-core for some reason, killing the battery. And then having things like contacts pictures not show up, reboots, and other issues. Just run GB Stock.
I picked up a Razr Maxx (CDMA-Verizon) a couple of weeks ago.
I was enjoying a Rezound on ICS before that, but I'm quite happy with the Maxx.
I'd flash a rom if anything looked "safe", but it seems as if folks are trying to "guarantee" they get the OTA and seem worried about getting back to gingerbread.
I'm rooted and on the latest stock from Verizon. Does it make more sense to sit on my hands or is there a decent leak/ROM that's worth jumping on that is "safe" before the ICS OTA?
I get my phone today but it will stay stock until the update. Not being able to get back is not worth the risk imo
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I picked up a Razr Maxx (CDMA-Verizon) a couple of weeks ago.
I was enjoying a Rezound on ICS before that, but I'm quite happy with the Maxx.
I'd flash a rom if anything looked "safe", but it seems as if folks are trying to "guarantee" they get the OTA and seem worried about getting back to gingerbread.
I'm rooted and on the latest stock from Verizon. Does it make more sense to sit on my hands or is there a decent leak/ROM that's worth jumping on that is "safe" before the ICS OTA?
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I put several ROMs on my D2, but not one on my Razr. It works just fine and lag free without one. The only incentive is to have ICS early, but it should be here before long. I've contemplated about flashing an ICS ROM, then again it seems safer just to wait it out.
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I picked up a Razr Maxx (CDMA-Verizon) a couple of weeks ago.
I was enjoying a Rezound on ICS before that, but I'm quite happy with the Maxx.
I'd flash a rom if anything looked "safe", but it seems as if folks are trying to "guarantee" they get the OTA and seem worried about getting back to gingerbread.
I'm rooted and on the latest stock from Verizon. Does it make more sense to sit on my hands or is there a decent leak/ROM that's worth jumping on that is "safe" before the ICS OTA?
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Stay stock. If you read through these forums you'll find a lot of posts from people having issues with the leaked ICS builds and trying to return to GB. It isn't worth the hassle IMO. If you want ICS early, sign up for the soak tests. Moto does them before sending out any updates. I've been through several soak tests now starting with the DX. Hope this helps.
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Just wait
The issue with people not being able to return back to GB from ICS, is that people don't read warnings like "NOT ABLE TO GO BACK TO GB"
There are roughly 6 leaks out. The first 2 are able to go back to GB, the rest aren't. I'm on one that is able to go back to GB. I flashed the ICS leak a few weeks ago, because I knew ICS wouldn't be here till mid June or late June. I couldn't stand Motoblur on GB anyway, I actually like it on ICS.
If I were you, I'd just stay GB. ICS is just around the corner (hopefully) and theres no point in getting on an ICS leak, then having to delete all your files to get the official OTA.
I've used both Black Widow ICS and Eclipse v1.3 and they both work great. right now, I'm running Eclipse and loving it. Also, you can go back to gb if you use the moto tools and whatnot. just a pain to do so.
Is there any benefit really of going to an ICS leak vs staying on GB kernel with ICS ROM ( Axiom AOKP ICS)? (If I do flash to ICS leak at this time I'd stick to the ones where I can still fastboot to 181.) I am leery of anything that gets me stuck, because I'm still under warrantee and also afraid I mighty not be able to ota to the official release once it happens (certainly not holding my breath that it will happen today). Just wondering if anyone has a quick idea of what I would be gaining (and losing) if I went to the ICS leak after using this ROM. I know I would lose ROM control, which sucks, but I don't really know what I might gain. Thanks so much!
Edit: in particular, is hardware acceleration better on the leaks than on ICS roms not running on the leaks? Mostly: Does Netflix work with any of the leaks? Thanks
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Hard to believe nobody has an opinion on this with how many posts I see about the leaks! Your opinions / advice will be greatly appreciated
Personally I avoid the leaks. They could be the official release or full of tons of bugs. My first priority is a functioning phone due to work, the bells and whistles are put on the back burner.
When ICS officially releases I don't want to lose my chances getting it by upgrading to a leak. Al though I'm sure the community will find a way to receive the OTA regardless of the current state of your phone, I'd rather not spend hours upon hours reverting back and forwards firmware-wise.
If you can deal with bugs and such then by all means go for the leak
At this poit in don't think is worth tring a leak, ics will be realeased soon (oh well not sure but i hope that is it XD) in the worst case waiting about 15 days is ok
BakaPhoenix said:
At this poit in don't think is worth tring a leak, ics will be realeased soon (oh well not sure but i hope that is it XD) in the worst case waiting about 15 days is ok
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I REALLY don't think that 15 days is the worst case scenario..
But anyway... Thanks for your opinions. However, I'm really looking for information from people who have tried the leaks.. Especially whether or not Hardware Acceleration is working better on leaked ICS vs ICS ROMs on GB Kernel. Those who have tried the leak, do you see any real benefit to running it vs running any of the ICS Roms that can be flashed over non-leaked firmware versions (.181 mostly)? Thanks
The dangers of the methods people are using to get these leaks running aren't worth the trouble in my opinion. 209 works pretty well from what Ive seen, but the BP tools thing seems to cause intermittent problems. Its a matter of how far you are willing to go to have it now.
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Well, i ended up flashing .79 ICS leak (since out can be reverted to GB) and it works great! Netflix works fine, my 4g is stable and the system is snappy. I'm not going to update to a later leak and get "stuck" but I think I'll try this out until the official OTA drops then I'll revert to stock and upgrade. thanks everyone