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Hi,
just managed to install and configure Kweek3 (an Android compiled Quake 3) and it is running. Unfortunately I don't have a ext. Keyboard and Mouse. That's why I am playing with the volume buttons to walk forward/backward (Interestingly, kweek3 tinks that these are F2 and F3 Button )
Nevertheless, I am wondering if there is something wrong. I am only getting around 6-9 fps out of my streak. Should the hardware not being able to do more? Or do I really have to wait for Froyo (or something in that direction) that I get it smoothly?
How high are your fps?
I think its best to wait for Eclair. Check out the benchmark results for yourself:
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/08/dell-streak-benchmark-scores-greatly-improved-by-android-21.html
Some of the FPS readings for Eclair are not much more than on Donut
Could you give us some download links, or is it...you know... wink wink nudge nudge?
has anyone else tried linpack or quadrant or the other benchmarks mentioned.
in quadrant I get 7.19 much higher than the supposed donut score posted by the endgadet bod..
what we really need is the jit and the qualcomm 3d stuff enabled in a kernel..
fards said:
has anyone else tried linpack or quadrant or the other benchmarks mentioned.
in quadrant I get 7.19 much higher than the supposed donut score posted by the endgadet bod..
what we really need is the jit and the qualcomm 3d stuff enabled in a kernel..
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+1 in quadrant i get 676(2nd run i got 666 xD) 1.6 unrooted at that as well kind of made me wtf at the engadget benchmarks, though linpack wise its pretty much the same.
Just google for kweek3. Then you would find a link at google incl how to install it...legally
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New build
The new build of kwaak 3 has joystick support and works on the Streak, check it out.
http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/downloads/list
Hi which fw do you recomment. I installed the new one, tested it with quadrant, got more points than 2.2, but the 3d performance surprisingly was worse - less fps. So your recommendations?
kopchev said:
Hi which fw do you recomment. I installed the new one, tested it with quadrant, got more points than 2.2, but the 3d performance surprisingly was worse - less fps. So your recommendations?
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If you want to root, 2.2, and if you are in this forum you probably will, sooner or later... and if you are seaching for performance, you probably will think about flashing a performance-oriented ROM, and to do that you need root, and for that you need 2.2...
Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
Depends on what you want
I'm assuming since it's for compnay use you have no reason to require hardware acceleration for graphics or videos...in which case a gingerbread rom like vegan-tab ginger edition would be good or cyanogenmod. If you do want all the native hardware support with good usb handling including usb sticks and such I'd go with vegantab 5.1 or clemsyn+caulkins rom both of which are froyo, but are in my opinion the fastest most stable.
wrong section for this eh...
Its a custom rom question, where should I put it?
In general or q&a sections. To many of these in development section bumps useful dev threads out of site.
@moderator please move
Yah G Tablet Q&A!
For "all" of your questions relating to the Viewsonic G Tablet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1101
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
Lol ^^^
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I like cm7... and have tried several others. Many awaiting development of integration of Flash. Most of them HoneyComb once done they will be rocking. Roebeet's and Illuminate are superior, there has been a lot of people that have contributed to the these ROM's. I would say learn how to use nvflash to restore your gtab back to stock configuration and try several of the ROM's for yourself and see which one fits your needs best. Good luck.
@goodintentions- Oh no u diiiiiint! Lol
grimmy311 said:
Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
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Beasty's was the fastest and smoothest I've come across so far.
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http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/102-viewsonic-viewpadg-tab/
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Not gonna lie, this made me laugh.
Oh, and I concur with the VEGAnTab 5.1 being very stable and usable.
grimmy311 said:
Can anyone tell me what the fastest most stable ROM for the gTAB is right now? I love tinkering around with the other ROMs but my company is deploying these for technicians and while the stock rom is terrible, I need something that will be consistent and not have many issues. We prefer to run Honeycomb but Gingerbread is fine with me if it is smooth/fast. Thanks guys.
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The Froyo based Brilliant Corners ROM over at slatedroid.com is by far the best ROM I have used. Very stable and full hardware support.
+1 for the brilliant corners ROM
Maybe you guys can help clear a few things up for me-
I was under the impression that Froyo roms are the only ones that have full 100% hardware support, since it was the only one supported by the manufacturer at the moment.
Right now I'm running CM7, which I've found rather laggy and many broken features (video chat apps don't seem to work, etc). I blamed it on the fact that CM7 uses Gingerbread and not Froyo.
I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
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I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
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You can somewhat compensate for the lack of hardware acceleration with overclocking. This is what many folks do.
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You can somewhat compensate for the lack of hardware acceleration with overclocking. This is what many folks do.
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Someone told me this once before (maybe it was you), but I disagree with this being a solution. Overclocking helps somewhat, but more code being sent to more CPU cycles is not always a direct tradeoff in performance. For example, when executing code the JVM has to deal with garbage collectors and other thread management issues that the GPU doesn't need to deal with. I read from notion ink's blog about new HC for the Adam that some of the java GC's can take anywhere between 7-500ms to do its work. The more code being sent to the GPU to offset CPU load, the smoother and less jittery the entire user experience will be.
Overclocking can help make the jittering go away faster, but also cause more of these hickups in a span of time, if I understand correctly.
Overclocking, while very cool, can also deplete your battery faster. I've been clocking at 1.2 and sometimes 1.4Ghz on CM7. I stopped using 1.4 because I noticed the battery didn't last as long, and sometimes the device seemed to heat up more than I remember normally. I'll still overclock, but at the end of the day I don't feel like my device is as smooth as it could be. And that irks me.
Why not just use an overclockable Froyo rom?
Meanwhile, Brilliant Corners sounds interesting but then I have to deal with that whole bootloader 1.2 mess. Not sure I want to go there yet.
Brilliant Corners is simply a 1.2 port of Vegan 5.1.1.
When the 1.2 bootloader arrived, Roebeet figured it would be the future bootloader for our tablets. He therefore made 1.2 equals of the 1.1 Roms he had a hand in developing. BC is Vegan 5.1.1, Mountain Laurel is his original TNT Lite, and Century Eyes is his Gadam rom.
So, if you want Brilliant corners, but don't want to switch bootloaders, then simply get Vegan 5.1.1. It's basically the same thing.
Personally, I was on Brilliant Corners until recently. I bought the tablet with TNT Lite pre-installed, then flashed Vegan 5.1.1. I decided to go to 1.2 and went to Brilliant Corners. I had a couple issues recently (not with the Rom, but the person that was using the Rom) and had to repartition. Figuring I'd lose everythign anyway, I decided ot give another rom a try. I went ot Beasty for 1.2 (it's an Adam Rom) Then, some apps wouldn't install for me, becuase my "device was not compatible." Figuring it was more of a headache, I decided to try Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for 1.2 and it's working like a dream so far. It's overclocked, but has built in Battery management, regulating the voltages as battery life get's lower. It's FAST, it's stable, and I think my battery has lasted longer than it did previously.
The good thing it, there are versions for 1.1 (v5) and 1.2 (v6) so anyone can use it...give it a test drive, you may never look back.
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Someone told me this once before (maybe it was you), but I disagree with this being a solution. Overclocking helps somewhat, but more code being sent to more CPU cycles is not always a direct tradeoff in performance. For example, when executing code the JVM has to deal with garbage collectors and other thread management issues that the GPU doesn't need to deal with. I read from notion ink's blog about new HC for the Adam that some of the java GC's can take anywhere between 7-500ms to do its work. The more code being sent to the GPU to offset CPU load, the smoother and less jittery the entire user experience will be.
Overclocking can help make the jittering go away faster, but also cause more of these hickups in a span of time, if I understand correctly.
Overclocking, while very cool, can also deplete your battery faster. I've been clocking at 1.2 and sometimes 1.4Ghz on CM7. I stopped using 1.4 because I noticed the battery didn't last as long, and sometimes the device seemed to heat up more than I remember normally. I'll still overclock, but at the end of the day I don't feel like my device is as smooth as it could be. And that irks me.
Why not just use an overclockable Froyo rom?
Meanwhile, Brilliant Corners sounds interesting but then I have to deal with that whole bootloader 1.2 mess. Not sure I want to go there yet.
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I completely agree with everything you said. That said, right now the only way to partially compensate for the lack of hw acceleration is overclocking.
So, either you have jerky video playback but have a stable device all the time or you can get rid of the jerkiness (for the most part) and have a stable device most of the time.
Regardless, I'm still recommending froyo just because it is the only one with full hw acceleration support.
Netflix Works... kind of
Dishe said:
Maybe you guys can help clear a few things up for me-
I was under the impression that Froyo roms are the only ones that have full 100% hardware support, since it was the only one supported by the manufacturer at the moment.
Right now I'm running CM7, which I've found rather laggy and many broken features (video chat apps don't seem to work, etc). I blamed it on the fact that CM7 uses Gingerbread and not Froyo.
I read this thread because I'm also looking to ditch this laggy rom and find something fast and stable, so I'm confused that there are so many folks recommending Vegan GE. Wouldn't Gingerbread just be in the same boat I am currently in?
I'll be honest, the reason I've been with CM7 is Netflix support, so I kind of like that Vegan GE can be made to work with the Netflix app. But if Froyo roms are faster and most stable, I'd rather go with that. Can anyone help clarify?
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Roebeet has a netflix hack that will work with both Brilliant Corners and VEGAn 5.1 The problem is, you lose the youtube app... which isn't a huge deal as you can still go to the website and play from there, with full hardware acceleration. So, it's a question of what you want to do. When i made the jump from 1.1 to 1.2 I think my battery life went down a little, but I haven't noted too much difference between VEGAn Tab 5.1 and Brilliant Corners.
If you want to make the 1.2 bootloader jump, try this. It is super straightforward.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
If you want the Netflix Hack for 1.2 , see here. Roebeet made one for Brilliant Corners:
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/171...lternative-12-based-firmware-g-tabletzpad-t2/
If you want to just stay on 1.1 and do VEGAntab5.1, the link for the neflix hack can be found in the second post here.
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/146...1-wsupplement-updated-021211-g-tabletzpad-t2/
Hello members,
Since most of us know our team ENVY, is now out for a new project, we are kind of doing a survey that would help us to create something in favor of the users.
Now what do you prefer? Froyo roms / Gingerbread roms ? And why ?
Go and VOTE NOW!
Regards
DJ (Team ENVY)
Hey dj create a google sheet for a survey, better way and no spams. If u want I can do that for you.
The only reason I'd go for Gingerbread is the features, Froyo is much more stable in my opinion.
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I never looked back after flashing mik's CM7. As I see it, FroYo reached its peak performance with some ROMs + kernels here and the only way to improve on it was to go Gingerbread.
IMO Gingerbread looks better and performs better than Froyo.
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Hey dj create a google sheet for a survey, better way and no spams. If u want I can do that for you.
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Do it please.
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raylgo said:
I never looked back after flashing mik's CM7. As I see it, FroYo reached its peak performance with some ROMs + kernels here and the only way to improve on it was to go Gingerbread.
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well, I used to think so, but it is not that simple by just looking at the Quadrant score.
try to play games such as "brothers in arms 2", froyo stock rom is much smoother than the cm7 port. I'd love to stay with cm7, but sometimes it just does not perform well.
even if you look at Quadrant score, cm7's 2d fps is less than stock froyo. why is that I have no idea.
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well, I used to think so, but it is not that simple by just looking at the Quadrant score.
try to play games such as "brothers in arms 2", froyo stock rom is much smoother than the cm7 port. I'd love to stay with cm7, but sometimes it just does not perform well.
even if you look at Quadrant score, cm7's 2d fps is less than stock froyo. why is that I have no idea.
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Thats just the same that i feel
If you want more quandrant, don't install any of the apps that run in background consuming more ram resulting in battery drainage
I too prefer Froyo, whether its stock or froyo modded roms
Gingerbread is better.
just by looking at the changes in the android versions i would say gingerbread
So far, I'm using Aga ROM, and Gingerbread. I know I'm a newbie. But I think I never looked back to Froyo, ever since I'm using Gingerbread. Frankly, I also think my Ginger is much more stable, less battery usage, compared to my Froyo.
Have also tried these ROMs.
- openOptimus (Froyo and Gingerbread)
- Devoid (Froyo)
I would say gingerbread. Surely we can trade in more performance for a little less battery life.
totally gingerbread
and i suggest DJ make a poll
For a while i have shifted to stock froyo till i take it to LG CSC, need to get the power button checked
@XeactorZ :- sure, when i am online via my Laptop
@sweetnsour :- thanks for the link, i am changing my preference, i vote for GB
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all the gb users want is neocore score, if we were able to increase the neocore in froyo it would make a big difference because it offers more battery !!!
mansirawat said:
Hey dj create a google sheet for a survey, better way and no spams. If u want I can do that for you.
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Here is the spreadsheet :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFZhb2tEejJVUWpXUUhzS0d2dk1PaXc6MQ
Let me know if you want any more changes to it. Please update it to first post, so that we can response quickly and that can be counted easily. Do mention a period till the survey is open, so that you can work afterwards. Good luck.
Btw: PM me your gmail ID so that I can share that doc rights with you, and you can see the voting results.
mansirawat said:
Here is the spreadsheet :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFZhb2tEejJVUWpXUUhzS0d2dk1PaXc6MQ
Let me know if you want any more changes to it. Please update it to first post, so that we can response quickly and that can be counted easily. Do mention a period till the survey is open, so that you can work afterwards. Good luck.
Btw: PM me your gmail ID so that I can share that doc rights with you, and you can see the voting results.
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Thanks
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Personally I mostly prefer froyo because it gives me more battery juice which I need it at work. I don't give a damn about benchmarks. Since it's really smooth for everyday use (internet (+ tethering), a bit gaming, music), I couldn't care less about +-5fps.
DJoptimus-One said:
Hello members,
Since most of us know our team ENVY, is now out for a new project, we are kind of doing a survey that would help us to create something in favor of the users.
Now what do you prefer? Froyo roms / Gingerbread roms ? And why ?
Go and VOTE NOW!
Regards
DJ (Team ENVY)
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well well well the heat is on.......
I cannot live without audio effects.
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Hello,
I've had the phone rooted and the new cm7 (bad***), it all runs great I just wonder how some people are getting 5k Quad score while I am at the same 3.2 as it was on stock. I do have the same Kernel and everything when rooting and flashing went so smooth. Is there something I am missing.......
Thanks in advance.
MyyH said:
Hello,
I've had the phone rooted and the new cm7 (bad***), it all runs great I just wonder how some people are getting 5k Quad score while I am at the same 3.2 as it was on stock. I do have the same Kernel and everything when rooting and flashing went so smooth. Is there something I am missing.......
Thanks in advance.
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You can overclock it to 1.6 ghz in the CM settings.
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You can overclock it to 1.6 ghz in the CM settings.
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I did, than quadrant freezes while I'm running it. As in when I click submit score, it automatically goes back to the 1st 2d test and than force closes.
"sorry I left that out" :/
call me ignorant but do people STILL think that quadrant scores mean soemthing? why are people still comparing them???
Some people just want to stroke their epeen on the net.
And as to overclocking - not everyone will be able to overclock. There's a reason the device is only sold as 1.2 GHz - that's all it was tested to. Some might hit 1.4, some might hit 1.6, some might be right at the edge and only be able to do 1.2.
its not the quadrant score that matters. Its the idea of why it is different. All the devices have the same cpu have the same kernel and are rooted/flashed as stated in the forum (the same way). So why is mine doing so when clocked and running. I don't care what the score is. even 1200 score is enough for a phone. I didn't want to stroke anything. Its the matter of where the problem/case/scenario is coming from. As in, will it cause other problems and is it a problem at all. having had 5 android rooted/flashed devices I've never experienced it........... Why do people have to be ignorant and troll a forum is an issue I cant understand?
Bump for help
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Cm7 rooted love it
MyyH said:
its not the quadrant score that matters. Its the idea of why it is different.
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if you're asking why your quad score differs from other ppl's phone with the same setup, then you need to research more.
Not all phones are built the same. Just because they all have the same hardware and software, doesnt mean they'll all operate the same.