Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there should be any technical reason why the Flyer cant run on Honeycombe 3.1 and implement the usb host update so I can download jpegs from my dslr using usb.
Many thanks.
It might be worth trying it without honeycomb, I believe that Qualcomm chips have supported USB host since Eclair, perhaps HTC enabled it already?
Has anyone tried it yet?
I'd like to read some gps data from a SD card.
Thanks guys but needed a tablet asap which would also allow me to transfer files from my dslr via usb. Its been confirmed on other forums that the 3.1 update from Motorola will enable this so went with the Zoom
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
Dolmangar said:
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
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I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
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I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
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Yeah I have a D70 that's not supported either. I haven't gone and gotten one for my D60 yet although I've considered it a few times.
USB-host on Flyer
hi guys!
any news on this topic?
as there is already tmp root achieved and permanent root on s-off flyers, has anybody already tried to implement usb host functionality now?
I believe to have heard, that Honeycomb should support USB-host functionality automatically... Do we need to wait for 3.2, or could we get it earlier?
I'd really appreciate this (as I am also owning a DSLR from Canon), and would be willing to donate.
greets, alf.
Sure that the Flyer has the necessary chipset to work as a USB host?
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I'm actually working on a direct DSLR app using USB host, a preview of which should hopefully be released by the end of the week (alpha, not beta).
I'm mentioning this because it works on the Galaxy S2 with 2.3.4. I've not been able to get it to work on the Galaxy S1 with 2.3.4, but it just goes to show, it may not be 100% necessary to be running HC 3.1 to support it (as evidenced by the SGS2).
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
Either way, the chips themselves have supported it for years and years, that's not the issue. Kernel and framework support and such is the problem.
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
alf261173 said:
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Test with a card reader or ext hd (powered) plugged to your cable and see if you get a new drive through a file explorer... The kernel will definitely need to support this functionality, or the fstab may need to be modified.
alf261173 said:
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Indeed if you have a micro usb cable already, connect a usb stick, see if anything happens... that should tell you straight up.
of course I already tried different devices (USB-stick, hard drive, camera directly...), but there was absolutely no reaction ...
simply plugging it in doesn't work.
greets
Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
is there a way to fix this with root?
any news on this matter?
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Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
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Hi Chainfire,
have you looked into the Archos Gen8 range of tablets for any kernel info?
They utilise Froyo and have had USB host since day one. Maybe you could patch something from there?
H.
And what about porting the results for the SGT described here? http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...e-versatile-thanks-to-usb-host-functionality/
I can't wait. A Flyer with notes, the pen and USB host would be an fantastic tool for photography AND for any kind of fieldwork.
If you can take a photo with a proper camera and then check it on a flyer awesome display and use the pen... just imagine!
Sometimes I'm afraid that HTC did not bet enough hard for a fantastic device!
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Has anyone tried to use one. Heard the Viewsonic G Tablet can do some. Needing a solution to cable it. Thanks.
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I guess in theory, one of the ones mentioned in this article might work.
In one of my rooms the wifi coverage is very low - so it is tempting to try to get one of them to test.
tried a sabrent one, no luck
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tried a sabrent one, no luck
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Need one that is supported by linux or drivers will for sure be the doom. The question is only wht support has actually been included by Asus.
This thread looked interesting to me, thanks OP.
I have tested some of these before in another project. I found differences in even what was supposed to be the same models, weird stuff. I did find a few models that worked on LINUX, but I will have to dig around to find them.
A good test might be to find a model that quasi *auto detects* and operates on a specific version of LINUX, as a prerequisite, and then test on the dock.
The amount of OS/configuration modifications to *auto detect* should me minimal or none.
Hmm, youll probably need to compile the drivers as modules and manually insert them before it might work. But its worth a shot to just try one first
I should have my hands on the Apple adapter on Tuesday.
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Has anyone tried to use one. Heard the Viewsonic G Tablet can do some. Needing a solution to cable it. Thanks.
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i got mine working, just follow the instructions from the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14747728
It's working! I connected my n900 via usb and set it to network mode.
did netcfg usb1 dhcp and got the address from dhcp.
I wonder why they didn't include ifconfig in android :S
Also, I suspect you can use usb0 (client mode port) to connect to your pc.
Confirm: Connect to LAN using USB to RJ45 on Asus Transformer?
Hi,
I just want to confirm with the previous post that you were able to connect to the internet via LAN using a USB to RJ-45 purchased from amazon. (Search for "USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter" on amazon.) Did you connect using the USB port on the dock or on the tablet itself? Thanks!
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Hi,
I just want to confirm with the previous post that you were able to connect to the internet via LAN using a USB to RJ-45 purchased from amazon. (Search for "USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter" on amazon.) Did you connect using the USB port on the dock or on the tablet itself? Thanks!
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Sorry second part of the first sentence confuses me a little. Are you referring to me? I connected to my phone that has usb network mode. And I attached it to a usb port on the dock.
So I picked up the Apple USB-to-ethernet adapter (MC704ZM/A), plugged it in and no response from my Transformer. Did you guys do anything special to get yours working?
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I can confirm that I tried a USB to ethernet adapter (chip seems to be ASIX ax88x72A) and it did not work on my TF. The adapter came with a driver CD and it did include drivers for android. I'm attaching them here in the hope that someone who knows what to do with these files can help.
The driver files can also be found on Asix's website. Google "asix ax88x72A android". Sorry, this board doesn't allow new members to post external links.
I really hope Google or Asus can fix this missing rather fundamental functionality in a future SW update. I don't want to carry a router around and a lot of hotels only have wired internet!
Found Android Drivers
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I can confirm that I tried a USB to ethernet adapter (chip seems to be ASIX ax88x72A) and it did not work on my TF. The adapter came with a driver CD and it did include drivers for android. I'm attaching them here in the hope that someone who knows what to do with these files can help.
The driver files can also be found on Asix's website. Google "asix ax88x72A android". Sorry, this board doesn't allow new members to post external links.
I really hope Google or Asus can fix this missing rather fundamental functionality in a future SW update. I don't want to carry a router around and a lot of hotels only have wired internet!
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Here are some additional drivers from the manufacturer. They clam it includes Android 4.x.x Good luck
http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88772C_772B_772A_760_772_178_LINUX_Driver_v4.6.0_Source.tar.bz2
Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
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Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
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USB host alone would be worth an upgrade - for me.
Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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I am very sad because my honeycomb flyer can not detect the flash disc, usb mouse and usb keyboard, though already using Belkin powered hub! Now I use mwakious rom because it is the smoothest of all the existing custom rom.
DigitalMD, is there any custom rom based on latest leak rom from globatron that can run current USB Host? Why the USB HC can not enable USB Host but the HC first leak can do it?
I am confused because on the official HTC rom there are also USB storage settings.
Without USB Host, then HC Flyer lost one of its greatest benefits than gingerbread. This problem must be solved immediately. Is it possible that official rom will be updated again?
Thank you for your help!
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Now we can conclude that the USB Host is not supported by the official HC on the Flyer and View!
USB host was not available on the official OTA final either GB or HC. You cannot say it has been lost, because officially it was never there. It has been sneaked into some custom ROMs and the HC leak initially. There will be HC custom ROMs coming and we are looking into re -enabling USB Host, but it was never a generally available feature so its not considered a bug and I would not expect HTC to ever support it official since it cannot be used without an externally powered device (such as a powered hub) since the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB and this would lead to a multitude of support request calls emails etc.
If you have a favorite custom ROM developer, talk with them about adding USB host support.
But understand the limitations of USB host on Android. Most things other than USB hard drive support can be accomplished via other means in a simpler fashion I.e Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, etc. The USB host support in Android is very basic, you cannot just plug in any device and expect it to work, special devices need special drivers which are not going to be available in Android. Pretty much for now you can use things that act like keyboard, mouse or mass storage formatted Fat32 and not much else. having to use an external power source really takes the convenience factor out.
I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
shoot....I incorrectly thought that host was enabled in Honeycomb. Oh, well, guess I'll wait and see what ROMS come out. Now I'm not in such a hurry to update to HC.
I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I haven't gone back to the stock kernel since recompiling the source but I have my suspicions that it is there, and if not it's easy to compile it in. I've gotten side-tracked on the view hboot for now but I'll get back to it when I'm done with that.
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I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
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Direct USB connection is the simplest way to interact with many basic peripheral. Many people just don't know where to buy dedicated powered hub, so they don't use it! But it's very easy using a powered hub and does not add the slightest inconvenience. We will be very understand of the USB Host limitation, as well as the limitations of other handhelds supported USB Host, although they can provide additional power to the USB.
So, please, make it enable again on Honeycomb Flyer. Thank you in advance.
As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
solar powered usb hub
I found a solar powered usb hub on amazon that I hope will work nicely when usb host finally gets enabled. I'd post the link, but I am too n00b, it says. At amazon if you search "solar powered usb hub" its the first link. Once usb host is enabled it at least removes the annoying tether to a power outlet.
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As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
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I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
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I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
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You are never greedy bg, just exploring broader possibilities, same as me.
Yeah its just my own opinion that HTC pulled the option at the last second on the final release because its was in the earlier leaks. But I just think they saw a raft of calls coming because the interface won't even power most small thumb drives. I'd like to see it working, but its not really of much use.
I presume the usb port of the NT is unusable until a kernel level root is developed. If someone would confirm for the hell of it, please do! (I grabbed a couple usb to micro-usb converters - but, no luck...)
I didn't research the usability until after I tried using the usb port! I figured it would be enabled... why not allow a keyboard, etc.? Anyway, that explains why I couldn't find out the 'port type' in the official specs (micro usb).
Read some stuff on the Nook Color - and I believe the usb is available for it when rooted.
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I presume the usb port of the NT is unusable until a kernel level root is developed. If someone would confirm for the hell of it, please do! (I grabbed a couple usb to micro-usb converters - but, no luck...)
I didn't research the usability until after I tried using the usb port! I figured it would be enabled... why not allow a keyboard, etc.? Anyway, that explains why I couldn't find out the 'port type' in the official specs (micro usb).
Read some stuff on the Nook Color - and I believe the usb is available for it when rooted.
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USB host mode is part of the android kernel since gingerbread but the ROM has to support it.
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by unusable do you mean like not working or can't be connected to the computer
to root and debugging?
if you are... what the hell are you smoking?
please elaborate a little more as to unusable
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please elaborate a little more as to unusable
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I think he means, it can't be used to plug a keyboard in?
USB host mode is not supported in the stock B&N os.
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by unusable do you mean like not working or can't be connected to the computer
to root and debugging?
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Yeah - I guess as a USB host is the terminology I needed. I'm rooted - so, the Nook works fine as a device on my PC!
I just want to run devices from the Nook itself - particularly keyboard and game controllers (ps3).
It never occurred to me that it wouldn't function 'out of the box.' The only reason I can see to deny it is either battery drain or to guard against hack attempt. Pretty lame really!
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USB host mode is part of the android kernel since gingerbread but the ROM has to support it.
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Do you think it might be possible to replace elements using root to enable it?
Barring that, in one dev thread or another, I vaguely remember reference to a particular way of bypassing the bootloader lock, that if it worked would allow us to use custom ROMs but we'd be stuck with the B&N kernel. Does that sound familiar? What I'm really asking to anyone who might feel they know, is what are the odds the devs might crack USB host even if they can't get past the bootloader lockout?
Thanks to anyone with information.
Once this is enabled we wont just be able to use a keyboard, but also use it to browse your camera pictures, hard drives, etc
fortunz said:
Do you think it might be possible to replace elements using root to enable it?
Barring that, in one dev thread or another, I vaguely remember reference to a particular way of bypassing the bootloader lock, that if it worked would allow us to use custom ROMs but we'd be stuck with the B&N kernel. Does that sound familiar? What I'm really asking to anyone who might feel they know, is what are the odds the devs might crack USB host even if they can't get past the bootloader lockout?
Thanks to anyone with information.
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Cyanogenmod has USB host enabled. You could ask a cm dev how it is done. Dalingrin works on the Nook Color port, he may be able to tell you.
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Once this is enabled we wont just be able to use a keyboard, but also use it to browse your camera pictures, hard drives, etc
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Yes. Once host mode is enabled you will have access to HID and mass storage. I have both on these on my ATRIX.
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So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Yea, that's what I'm talking about, but looking around online about the SGS2 all you need is that OTG cable and it works. This solution looks fairly intense, with changing the kernel and editing scripts... Thanks anyways, at least we know it's possible.
@faux said the USB OTG code is missing in the HTC kernel. so, either htc or someone write some code in the kernel or it won't happen.
Not sure if the Telus kernel is different but using the stock .config file, it seems OTG is enabled.
OTG support for Qualcomm on-chip USB controller (USB_MSM_OTG_72K) is what is enabled.
A) does our phone have to ability to be a usb host?
B) If not, is it because of hardware limitations or software?
C) if software, how can we fix it?
I'd like to use a usb mic with my phone, but I'm not sure it will work/how to get it to work, so I thought I might ask the geniuses here
Thanks in advance
Probably works for storage devices if you use a powered hub and CM9 Rom, but I doubt it will work for audio.
Why in the world would you use a USB mic anyway?
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Probably works for storage devices if you use a powered hub and CM9 Rom, but I doubt it will work for audio.
Why in the world would you use a USB mic anyway?
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my laptop webcam is horrible and before spending money on an hd webcam I'd try just using my phone
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my laptop webcam is horrible and before spending money on an hd webcam I'd try just using my phone
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USB host won't allow you to use your phone as a webcam.