I just purchased a Viewsonic G Tablet from Amazon for $299...I have heard great things about it and have done some research. I was going to get a used ipad 1st gen for about the same price but I really want to root & do a lot of customizing more than what the ipad allows...
I have read the articles on rooting/flashing ROMS for it. I already have a OG Droid rooted running UD3.1.1 and loving every minute of it! I want to do something similar with the gTab.
I have looked into ROMS to flash onto the gTab & it seems two stand out the most: CM7 and VEGAn....I am somewhat familiar with CM7 since when I was looking for ROMs for my Droid it was one of the more popular ones. VEGAn I don't know much about but it seems the reviews are mostly high praise for speed & battery life...I would like options like on UD (overclocking, etc)
For anyone who has a G Tablet what ROMs are you using & why? Any others I should look into (I know about TnT Lite but it is retired so I prefer not to use that one. I am waiting for Honeycomb to become more stable before trying it...that is the main one I want to strive for!
Any other tips I should know about the G Tablet?
Thank You!
CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
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CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
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+1 on this - I was about to type out the same thing basically... very happy with CM7. Haven't tried the nightlies yet, but I may soon.
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I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
I rooted my g with the Vegan 7 - VERY stable and easy to work with. The instuctions are on this site with the downloads
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
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Oh I'm sorry for asking for a link...I'm on so many forums and each one has different rules...actually after i asked for the link I did do a google search & found the site...the only thing is their rule of 3 posts before being allowed to download or post a new thread! I really don't know what to post yet since this part of android is new to me & I haven't explored enough to ask/comment on questions...LOL.
I have read that the Honeycomb ROM is VERY close to being upgraded to Beta which is awesome! I may just go right to HC...The 2 things I read that are "issues' are the G-sensor and accessing specific emails in Gmail. But it is supposed to be VERY quick & awesome....except for booting...I heard that was kind of slow...
We'll see. My gTab was shipped yesterday from Chicago & is coming to Western NY via Priority Mail so I am hoping before the weekend...
Thanks again for the help everyone!
It's only natural to ask for links, don't apologize. What's unnatural is not being allowed to help people by posting one
I'm not even sure I posted 3 times before using that site...if anything, just find a post and make a general comment, or ask a question. I'm over there 2, as are most people that either currently are, or were regular mambers of this site. they'll understand if you want to get your post count up so that you'll have access to the files.
As far as Honeycomb, there is suspicion that some of the issues are due to lack of OpenGL drivers from Nvidea. supposedly they can be correced in kernel development, but hte kernel base is different than anything else we are using right now. Clemysn even said it was difficult and gave him headaches.
for instance, the mail issue...it's been reported that there is a way to get the messages to show, but that you can't "see" where to touch to access it. the lack of OpenGL shading is not letting the graphics display properly. It's my hope, that once OpenGL is taken care of, that this will be a 100% working, stable release of HC for us. There isn't one Rom out yet for the g-tablet that has working, official hardware acceration support from Nvidea. HC would be the first, if anyone can get it working.
to use an analogy, what we have are 12 cylinder supercars, but the manufacture only provided a way to get spark to 4 of them.. some developers have figured out how to expand that to 8, but we're still not realizing the true potential of this engine. It may go as fast as it should, with tweaks, but it sometimes doesn't sound, or look very pretty doing it.
Go ahead up to HoneyComb Alpha3.0.1 by Roebeet and dev teams!
If you don't mind to have some bumps during the dev, flash to HoneyComb BoS Alpha3.0.1... sweetest thing...now I feel Gtablet worth for every penny I spent!
Search for that because I know this forum doesn't allow to post the full URL of other forums!
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Is there anything new going on in the development side? I havent seen much in the Dev section. Does anyone want to share what new projects they are working on?
most evs have developed what they can from what's available. Until Viewsonic, Nvidea, USMerchants, Google, or any other entity release something that can drastically change the way we Gtab, then there won't be anything else to develop. They may tweak a few things here and there, fix bugs, etc. etc. but as far as something "new" it will have to depend on VS et al.
When VS released their 1.2 bootloader, as it's become known, Roebeet made some new(er) romss based on previous builds (TNT Lite, Vegan-Tab, CM7). They aren't really "new" just updated versions of existing roms, to accomodate the new bootloader. (they are posted at another forum site)
There have been a few Kernel updates as well, but none based on the 1.2 bootloader (that I know of)
So, basically, the development section will be a bit on the quiet side until the developers are given something substantial to work with. All the roms we are using are based on something that was provided by VS et al., so until they release something, then there will be nothing to work with, besides what already exists (ie, tweaks bug fixes, etc)
Slower changes is fine with me. For once, I'd like to use my gtab for more than a couple weeks without flashing a new rom or kernel.
I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
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I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
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WOW!!!!! Where is the press release? I can't believe Viewsonic is supporting cyanogenmod. This could mean Honeycomb is in the near future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes, sarcasm intended)
Well that sucks. I thought someone would want to make a nicely themed ROM or continue to integrate new features into their ROMs. Vanilla ROMs are cool but sometimes its nice to see a pimped out ROM.
Several themes for roms out there. I was commenting on the officially supported
Oh ya, I dont think Viewsonic wants to support anything officially. Not even their own software let alone someone elses.
Let me start by saying i do not live on xda and do not keep up with every development. I had been happily using Vegan 5.1 and then Vegan-Gingerbread until this week when my wifi crapped out on me.
I went with the new Flashback-Honeycomb and REALLY like it but i noticed very few people posting about it, while the other honeycomb rom pages have hundreds of posts (mostly people complaing that something doesnt work or asking why they cant get it working ((when they didnt follow the directions usually))..
Anyway,...without taking 40 hours of my time and reading nearly 1,000 pages of "how come i am boot looped?", I wanted to make a post here and ask the few "in the know" what the REAL skinny is on the various alpha Honeycombs available. What features really work on each (and what doesn't), which ones are the best/fastest/have the most promise.
....and in a cogent, short, logical, concise thread..without thousands of "but why can't i...." posts mixed in.
Thanks!
Allen
None, because it's still in alpha, and I prefer a Rom that doesn't require me to make posts asking "why can't I..."
Seriously though, all of them are derivitives of "bottle of smoke," and you didn't even list that as an option. It's in version 6.0, now.
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None, because it's still in alpha, and I prefer a Rom that doesn't require me to make posts asking "why can't I..."
Seriously though, all of them are derivitives of "bottle of smoke," and you didn't even list that as an option. It's in version 6.0, now.
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While some of that is taken as a good point i have to respond.
Even in alpha form, i already like Honeycomb-Flashback better than vegan 5.1 or Vegan-Gingerbread. It looks better, is more intuitive for a tablet format and flows fine.
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I have not had a single custom ROM yet that didnt have SOME kind of compromise/one thing that didnt work/problem. Not to mention what you give up using any of the versions of this thing STOCK.
Now that we cleared that up. Back on topic please!
Honestly, I think they are all variations on the same theme right now. And I mean the Adam ROM as the source, not BoS.
I do like what I've seen in Flashback, not to soft-sell it. I've pulled back for the summer (I've mentioned this before - not selling my GTAB, just want to enjoy / get annoyed by my kids being off). With the last BoS alpha, I was looking at Flashback and I liked what the tlbardelljr was doing, ie. the updates to the framework.
But in general, I like what all the modders / devs are doing. I know that some people are a bit overwhelmed by all the different mods, but better too many than too little!
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Honestly, I think they are all variations on the same theme right now. And I mean the Adam ROM as the source, not BoS.
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I completely understand that BOS was a derivitive of other Adam roms, but, the roms listed are all direct modifications of BOS.
You took the Adam roms and ported them to the G-Tablet, then others have tweaked YOUR rom in order to create their own monster. I was just making the point that all of the roms listed are derived from BOS, yet BOS wasn't even listed as an option.
Flashback
I originally started with BoS 5.2 and loved it. Was holding off on updating to 6.0 hoping additional updates would be made available after the 6/27 Notion Ink updates.
Then last night I saw that Flashback has added limited flash support so I decided to jump over and try that. So far, so good though I haven't had much of a chance to play with it yet. It does seem to boot quite a bit slower than BoS but I appreciate what flash capability it has so I will probably test it out some more tonight. If BoS had flash I would be going with that but we shall see...
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Even in alpha form, i already like Honeycomb-Flashback better than vegan 5.1 or Vegan-Gingerbread. It looks better, is more intuitive for a tablet format and flows fine.
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I think all respomses to the OP must be on topic. You can change the look by (for example) using VTL launcher.
Has anyone tried Netflix with Flashback?
If so, and it works fine (maybe with the "manufacturer=HTC" fix), then soon my answer to the poll shall be Flashback
Edit: with over 600 views, it is sad we only have 20 votes! Vote and let others see who is using what, and what the demand is!
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Development for the vibrant right now seems to be directed by the devs, but in the real world supply and demand is an important concept. Are devs focusing on the builds that are in most demand, or are users using what the devs are building because it is all that is being worked on?
I have a feeling that a comparable amount of people use some sort of custom Froyo and are not willing to go to gingerbread as there are who are continuously using gingerbread. If this is the case then perhaps the devs can use that feedback in some way. In any case it should give us an idea of the current condition of supply and demand.
The idea here is to give feedback to devs that show them that their work is being appreciated, or what they could do that may be the most appreciated. The poll is basic, posts are welcome if they contain useful feedback.
Sorry if this seems erroneous, but even if one developer(or fellow user) finds this to be remotely useful/interesting then it is worthwhile.
I myself am going to use froyo based roms until gingerbread roms are more overall stable and functional, however I almost feel forced to use gingerbread roms since they are primarily what is still being maintained or upgraded. I want the newest features, functions, and tweaks, and since froyo seems to have been nearly forgotten I am not sure what to do. Ultimately this makes me want a new phone that doesn't have this issue.
Froyo, same reasons as you said.
Gingerbread it's way nicer imo haha.
Froyo.
Ginger just doesn't feel complete yet.
Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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I'm in college, so over the summer when I didn't have much going on and a charger was always nearby, trying different ginger-roms was fine. Now that I am on campus for extended periods without a charger, I cannot use a rom that will kill more than half my battery in 6-8 hours. If everything worked right, maybe.. but considering an entire summer not being able to get something as simple as GPS working, I would not trade it MUCH improved battery life for less than normal functionality.
I was considering getting a hercules(intl version has many hardware improvements and superior battery with gingerbread), but since it will probably have similar problems(manufacturer wise, no source, mostly forgotten after launch) as the vibrant I would rather go with the prime. But if the prime doesn't go t-mobile than that isn't an option. Which leaves me with hoping that the gingerbread source comes out(for devs to work with), or the devs will make leaps with the ginger code, or that at least a few might work on froyo code..
With so many tweaks and custom apps(like hacked camera) that have come out since most froyo roms fell into neglect, I really want one or the other. If the prime comes out and I can get a tmo version, great.. otherwise I just feel screwed/forgotten.
I feel like the only updated froyo roms are being worked on by devs that don't really have it going on yet, and they only use froyo as a stepping stone.. I wish there were a thread in development section that explained to ALL devs what needs to go into every rom as a minimum(or what tweaks work with which roms, etc).
I won't switch off tmobile, I don't like them as a company, but no other is ACTUALLY better, but they all charge far more. Every situation seems lose/lose the more I think about it.
Bump because I think the results are interesting so far.
Im on gb because the speed boost was just so astronomical... particularly cm7... id appreciate dev on vibrantmtd more than others but i think that the best dev community is one where there is variety so:
Ideally, id perfer to see eclair, froyo, gb and honeycomb roms, as well as wp7 and ubuntu and ios lol. This is my dream.
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I'm also on froyo for the same basic reasons already said. I would love to see the different build prop tweaks, supercharger scripts, gps tweaks, and other customizations built into them as a standard. OnlyToxic8, Dmz nightly and zendroid are the only roms with those tweaks baked into them. I'd love more options.
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9 people either stock or froyo, 1 who is proud of him cm7. I read a ton of posts about how people have cm7 and are totally happy, so it looks like they need to do some voting
We need more people to participate to get a better overall look at the statistics.. several hundred people looked at the thread, but few votes? It only takes 2 clicks to vote..
Bump
Im loving MIUI revamped nick and t. Hill are great in both the rom they provide and support can't be beat.
Stock deodexed and rooted KB5.
I've given up on Vibrant.
I'm getting a new phone. Seriously thinking about iPhone 5. I know, I know.
But I just want a phone that works, and Vibrant has been my 3rd Android phone with problems, constant freezing, and other random issues. Vibrant was probably my worst tech purchase ever. Can't wait to get rid of this crap.
I want the Nexus Prime, but the problem is that it is manufactured by Samsung, and I swore to myself I wouldn't purchase another Samsung product. Then again it's guaranteed to get Google updates. Ahhhh I don't know.
I'm also ditching T-Mobile most likely. I have a feeling they have a hand in Samsung never releasing/leaking Gingerbread on Vibrant.
If we had Gingerbread leaked, the phone would be good probably for another 6 months-1yr.
I just flashed my first Gingerbread ROM (Asgard) and I have to say I prefer Gingerbread.
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Miui revamped by nick and Tory is amazing and they are extremely active in their forum IMO Miui runs much better on my phone than any custom froyo ROM
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miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
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miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
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What's "wip gps?"
I'm on a gingerbread rom on my vibrant now. They have definately become stable enough in my opinion. I am running Biff mod which even does not need to be reset to stock or loaded with GB bootloaders making it even easier now. I think the battery offput on GB roms is still there and feels lacking in my opinion but its worth the upgrade in my opinion. Currently on 2.3.5 and wouldn't go back to froyo now.
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work in progress
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so 70% stock/froyo and 30% using gb/happy with it.. but the numbers are too small to be a good sample of the population.
Bump because we need more votes for accuracy!
What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
Well you kinda have to decide which type of rom that you'd want to try to use. If you want the stock rom I recommend installing the Bali kernel...it's fixed a lot of issues and gives great speed and battery life which is what I'm using.
Hopefully, you have rooted your phone before doing anything.
Bali Kernel Rocks for Froyo.
You can even try CM7 or MIUI Gingerbread ROMs.
We stopped relying on Samsung ages ago for providing any further updates.
If you want the best experience from your phone, you're going to have to take risks. But its nothing since this phone is technically "brickproof". Try installing a ROM besides Froyo, like GB or maybe a ROM that's Froyo but with different themes and tweaks, I just can't use stock 2.2 anymore lol.
Stupid Samsung and TMobile don't give a rat's a$$ about our phones or the Lag, and once they announced there will be no GB release, many devs have disappeared (though there are some new ones who inherited phones showing up now too )
For your first custom ROM...I wouldn't go with GB - it's not for beginners.
For 2.2 without the lag and some extra tweaks, try Project V - but there are lots of great ROMs out there that will help you ditch the Lag + a whole lot more. I know people who are still running Nero and Axura without problems - so you can probably just find a rom - look at the release date, and start reading the forum posts after that date. There's plenty in the noob stickies about how to root, most ROMs still provide install instructions.
Though - there are things like update of the Market, etc. - that you will need to allow extra time for during your "settling" periods...
i agree with the poster above, root your device and flash the bali 1.8.6 capped kernel. that'll convert your file system to ext4 and you'll be rocking. no need for the custom roms unless you're really adventurous.
While there is no need for custom roms I still think that you should try bionix 1.3.1 or project-v by edt both froyo roms to get a taste of what we in the vibrant community have and appreciate everyday
Bionix 1.3.1 has countless themes and project-v is by far imho the best 2.2 rom with the best speed and battery life and its always been what I fall back on when gb gives me problems. Also flash the trigger theme with it, it'll look better and bali kernel for battery
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What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
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Wow, like 10 replies and not one person mentioned this was in the wrong forum? Ha,nice.
Root, install CWM, install Project V.
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Stupid Samsung and TMobile don't give a rat's a$$ about our phones or the Lag, and once they announced there will be no GB release, many devs have disappeared (though there are some new ones who inherited phones showing up now too )
For your first custom ROM...I wouldn't go with GB - it's not for beginners.
For 2.2 without the lag and some extra tweaks, try Project V - but there are lots of great ROMs out there that will help you ditch the Lag + a whole lot more. I know people who are still running Nero and Axura without problems - so you can probably just find a rom - look at the release date, and start reading the forum posts after that date. There's plenty in the noob stickies about how to root, most ROMs still provide install instructions.
Though - there are things like update of the Market, etc. - that you will need to allow extra time for during your "settling" periods...
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When did they announce there would be no more updates for the Vibrant. I don't remember hearing anything about that. I've given up hope that there will be, but I haven't heard anything officially.
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For a first rom I would suggest something form sombionix. He was the best dev ever on this platform, and the roms are pretty much stupid proof, and more reliable than stock. anything from nero v3 to bionix 1.3 are all solid. You just need to take the way back machine and look as far back as 2009 to find them. Though his last rom thread keeps getting bumped as its just amazing and everyone keeps using it.
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When did they announce there would be no more updates for the Vibrant. I don't remember hearing anything about that. I've given up hope that there will be, but I haven't heard anything officially.
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Well...since I only have it based on what I've seen/heard here, I should rephrase:
"Once whatever event, whether official or otherwise, occurred that caused some devs and other XDA members to commonly believe that there won't ever be an official GB release for the Vibrant..."
If you wanna stay on Froyo go for Trigger 3.3, it's perfection.
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What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
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First off wrong place to be posting this. It belongs in the Q&A thread. Personal pref. but i would go with stable cm7 with the latest HL Glitch kernel.
Link to stable cm7
Link to Glitch kernel
Rom's
take a look at the Vibrant Bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991267
you will find links and all kind of good and useful information about this fantastic phone.
I flash a rom almost every other day and in my honest opinion bionix roms are the most stable and perfect daily driver roms period! Make sure you educate yourself before doing anything and also have the nescesary software to save your ass in case you F-up.
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If you wanna stay on Froyo go for Trigger 3.3, it's perfection.
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Trigger 3.3 or did it come out of beta?
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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fosser2 said:
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Apodidae said:
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
drizzt5 said:
This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
the3dman said:
Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
fosser2 said:
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.