I've been around this forum off & on since the Moto droid release & have used you guys' help & knowledge to root my moto droid, my htc eris, several friend's phones, and soon htc thunderbolt.
As far as I understand, there have been different methods implemented to obtain root on these different devices. I was wondering if there was a single thread briefly discussing the differences in the methods used to root different devices.
I remember having the droid & using the devs' instructions to quickly root & upgrade my phone. On the other hand I remember having the eris and following these forums every day for months that seemed like years while the devs worked their butts off every day to find us root access.
Now it has been stated that gthe HTC Thunderbolt was their most locked down device to date, yet it was rooted much quicker than the eris??? I was courious about this & would like to learn more about rooting/hacking methods so that hopefully I could be a better contributor
Thanks in advance, Dave.
Sub-Standard said:
I've been around this forum off & on since the Moto droid release & have used you guys' help & knowledge to root my moto droid, my htc eris, several friend's phones, and soon htc thunderbolt.
As far as I understand, there have been different methods implemented to obtain root on these different devices. I was wondering if there was a single thread briefly discussing the differences in the methods used to root different devices.
I remember having the droid & using the devs' instructions to quickly root & upgrade my phone. On the other hand I remember having the eris and following these forums every day for months that seemed like years while the devs worked their butts off every day to find us root access.
Now it has been stated that gthe HTC Thunderbolt was their most locked down device to date, yet it was rooted much quicker than the eris??? I was courious about this & would like to learn more about rooting/hacking methods so that hopefully I could be a better contributor
Thanks in advance, Dave.
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look at the stickied thread in this section by jcase...the "permaroot" method. jcase is a well trusted dev and everything he has released has been rock solid. i rooted my t-bolt and two friends' t-bolt's using this and all have been flawless.
good luck
Thank you for the reply, however I'm not sure you fully understood my question.
I'm not asking how to root my phone, I'm wondering if there has been a thread or post describing the different methods that have been used to obtain roots on different devices comparitively. More specificaly why exploits used to obtain root will/will not work on a different device.
I'm wanting to better underdtand what the devs go through while woking on root.
Maybe I should post this in the developement section since this is concerning exploits & rom developement. Also that's where most of the members who are capable of answer this question will be spending the majority of their time
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Maybe I should post this in the developement section since this is concerning exploits & rom developement. Also that's where most of the members who are capable of answer this question will be spending the majority of their time
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Two friends at work have samsung galaxy s's.. one has a fascinate and the other has i9000. i would like to know the differences between the two and the differences in the rooting process for each. from what ive gathered in the short time of research, they seem very similar.
have there been any recent OTA's blocking root privileges? (friend had evo, didnt listen to me, downloaded OTA, and currently cant root with 2.3 OS.)
What are the most common errors or 'bricking' to avoid? i would like to NOT have to build a jumper lead if i dont have to, but i do know anything is possible. (short story, rooted friend's droid x this morning, and it boot-looped on the ROM i run on my x, following typical procedures, so had to start from the beginning of the process before i had successful root)
I wont say that i am a noob to root. ive lurked xda, CM, droidxforums, etc., etc., rooted my eris, OG droid, three droid x's, sprint hero, incredible, and looking now to continue to expand the horizons of phones with root, as well as people at work i can 'nerd-talk' with about themes and root-only apps.
With all that said, Odin and some of the processes ive skimmed for this phone are definitely new, so i kinda need an end-item list of the process.
Thanks to all devs, experienced folks, and mods for the help in advance.
The Stickies in the General section should get you up to speed.
I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
invikto said:
I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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easy answer
there's no real need of completely modded roms, and roms wich went out, are more optimization roms...
and... ics is on the way, think is a little useless, start thinking of making entire projects on gingerbread, knowing in a month we are going on a really different android version
True, true...but wasn't the ICS source/code already released? Or does it depend from device to device?
Hi all, just a quick intro. I am new to the Verizon/ Droid scene. I am picking up the Droid Razr today. I am coming from Sprint with an Evo. I have to say I am nervous about losing sense, but I am excited for how fast the Razr is going to seem. I know that even overclocked, my phone would not be able to hang with the speed of the new phone.
I have read a bit, but just wanted to get a round about for rooting (easiet way), which ROM's seem to be the most popular, kernel options? I noticed as of right now there is no ICS, but are there solid builds being played with right now?
I am sure there is plenty I am missing, but just wanted to say hi.
I appologize about the questions, but very little free time to do a lot of reading thus far.
Thanks in advance
Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
aktrazer said:
Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
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Yes it does help, thanks. I will be doing plenty of reading for sure. Just a different beast really. Just strange seeing all the different developers on this side. Just because, like I said, came from sprint/HTC land.
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Well, welcome to the party. It's a whole new world. The RAZR is an incredible phone!
http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
So it took a bit. But at this time tomorrow I will finally be a Droid owner.
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http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
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I will look up the site for sure. Thanks
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Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
Hi new guy. It's very simple. All of the information can be found on the forums, as well as using google. If you can't be bothered to do a simple search, or read through stuff, then don't root your phone.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
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And besides, noobs can have the phone. Just don't root your phone, and come crying in the forums when something goes wrong, cause you don't bother reading up beforehand.
SoulStripper66 said:
Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
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Sounds like it would have made more sense to get answers to those questions prior to your purchase.
Great phone, locked down.
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
Eun-Hjzjined said:
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
Most people here misunderstood me.
Asking nooby questions does not make one a noob.
I've been a computer programmer for years and I would like to contribute in the RAZR development, though I do not know how to start cause I was only mid-to-advanced user of mobile phones.
All I needed is someone to show me the way on this motorola. I'm not trying to make myself tiring to you though most people here should learn to show some respect and not snub people who ask.
As for "Searching" the forums, since the RAZR development is going slow, forum threads are also cruising at a low speed. So do not blame me for asking something that is not very clear to most "common" RAZR users and owners.
Friendly as hell.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
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Spectral thanks for joining this conversation. I've done a lot of research and already know that custom roms, governors and over/underclocking is possible.
Though it seems that device software differs from one phone to the other and I can't make up the differences. Maybe someone should start a thread regarding different Fastboots and to which devices they are installed to for example.
hi OP,
have u seen the Development forum? not the General forum.
there are tons of info to answer ur questions (sorry im not as capable) there. so u dont even need to search. just see the titles.
good luck.
I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
feered said:
I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
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1. CDMA is for Verizon, GSM is for all the others.
2. Yes, the bootloader it locked, and as far as I'm aware, it still hasn't been able to be unlocked. It is very easy to root the device, actually. There are many threads with many different methods of rooting. Just search for them.
3. If it works, it works!
4. Not sure, I haven't heard that. But I could be wrong.
5. I have searched far and wide as well (including off of XDA) and haven't been able to find any stable ones suited for everyday use.
6. Not sure what you mean by this, but rooting unlocks many new features of this device that really help to unleash its full potential.
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