Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
avathar said:
Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
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Tom,
WiFi - Forgive if 'teaching granny'; use Wireless Manager to turn on WiFi. Then Start|Settings|WiFi Settings and you should get a display of any available WiFi devices. If nothing showing, tap 'Add New' to allow insertion of the SSID info for a known device and force a search. Are you able to check connectivity with your hub using another WiFi enabled phone or PC in the same location ? Assuming that works OK, try seeing if the WiFi adapter for that device can be detected by the TG01 in close proximity. If you are not getting anything at this point, then I'm afraid it suggests a probable hardware issue with the radio in your TG01. Depending on where/how purchased, you may be able to go back to the vendor if within warranty; alternatively it may be worth contacting the authorised Toshiba Repair Centre in the UK - Regenersis Ltd in Scotland. They would have the necessary facilities to test/repair.
Audio Output - the TG01 uses the newer micro-USB port standards. This defines a single port capable of multiple functions: Charging, Analogue Audio Out (+mic), Data (USB sync) and also USB Host capability. It does this under processor control by sensing the type of device being attached. One aspect is based on the resistance seen between the 0V pin and Pin 5 ( a special 'sense' pin). For audio output, it uses the resistance across the D+ and D- (Pins 2 and 3). If you plug in earphones or similar which have too low a resistance, it will not recognise them and therefore will not switch the audio output from the phone speaker to the uUSB port. The supplied audio adapter includes appropriate resistors. You can also buy simple uUSB to 3.5mm adapters which include or can make or adapt your own. There are references to this with more detail in this post in a different thread.
Good luck, and hope you are able to get the TG working properly
Regards,
Kevin
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
avathar said:
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
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WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition (see link in my sig) and see what happens with that. It's using Radio 0300.76. If that also shows the same symptoms then I think you will need to look for a repair.
Headphones - yes should work OK. A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ? If so then there is nothing wrong with the phone and in which case I'd recommend checking you are using the correct pins on the uUSB plug and/or that there are no solder whiskers between contacts or similar (apologies if 'teaching Granny' here ). I'm not familar with any devices using a mini-usb in a similar manner - only one I've had with mini-USB was a Motorola RAZR3 but that was essentially just a 'dumb' hardwired USB port. The re-configurable approach only arrived with the introduction of the uUSB standard along with the TG01, HD2 and similar. Don't know about HTC Diamond, but in general HTC used a proprietary 11-pin connector which includes dedicated separate audio out as well as data and charging capabilities.
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition.
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yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
kevinpwhite said:
A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ?
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No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
avathar said:
yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
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I'm very sorry - can't think of any other simple checks re the WiFi just now.
However still some hope with the headphone output - I can now see from your photo that you have used the uUSB to USB A Host adpater - the plug on this is internally wired with a short between pins 4 and 5 (0V and the Sense pin). That causes the device to go into Host mode - so it is expecting to see a USB Flash Drive or similar on the end - not headphones. You need a lead with a basic uUSB B (that's the shaped connector with black insert rather than this one which is rectangulat with a white insert).
When I mentioned the 'original connector' previously, I was referring to checking with the supplied earphone/mic cable....
Hope that helps resolve...
Best regards,
Kevin
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I found a very nice & Slim universal charger on Kensington's site for Notebook, PSP, Ipod (yes I have all this stuff in my backpack...), but a tip for hermes seems to be missing.
Does anybody now a similr device with Hermes tip too?
TX
Basically anything with a mini-USB plug will work.
That's not been my experience. If it connects something to the data pins it will work, if not, it won't charge correctly.
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
KevinBaker said:
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
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Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
The pin doesnt need to be bridged when theres a data source like a pc on the other the end.
Could you check to see if your chargers have those pins bridged or not?
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Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
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I have not been doing any kind of research about bridging those pins because I just read about it first time, but my experience about charging problems are very similar to yours. My TyTN won't charge normally via USB-hub or car-adaptor, and after failing the charging process, it won't start charging again. Resetting helps after this, but I think that also waiting resets the situation. But that I'm not so sure about.
When I connect it directly to PC, it works just fine.
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
rantanplannet said:
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
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Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
icemantwilight said:
Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
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Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
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Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
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Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
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Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
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Damn .. then it's not so easy.
But I guess it's still possible, without totally breaking the plug. I hope ...
Interesting. That is exactly the issues I see using a 12V/USB adapter and cable in my car. Well hopefully in 2-3 months when my free vehicle charger comes from Cingular it will have the pins bridged and work properly!!!!
I wonder if the bridged pins and data cause the bluetooth to turn off after a period of time. I see that happen on my phone often when its connected and charging. But disconnected from the 12V/USB charger the BT stays on.
Thanks for testing and posting.
I had this exact problem with my m5000 to, i use a ipod battery extender as a backup for my m3100 as i regularaly find the need for extra power.
Quick work around for this problem is to power down completely by holding the power button. Then plug it in while turned off, wait for charging light to go orange then switch back on, will continue charging then until plug is removed.
HTH
V3
So, I don't understand: in the end, does it work or not with an adapter for V3?
If yes I could by that...
TX
If it helps any, I use an iGo universal power adaptor (available from Radio Shack and Expansys) which uses the iTips style device-specific tips. This is very similar to the Kensington system, although I believe the two are now incompatible.
Tip A53 (which is also designed for AudioVox phones) works well for me with my T-Mobile MDA Vario II.
http://www.igo.com/
Friend: The standard mini usb cable (most popular) can be used in extUSB on D2 (Topaz) : Charging is OK and Sync is OK.
Note: I discover It after buy a 2nd cable
Well, I have so many 'standard' USB to mini USB cables I have never even taken the HTC item out of it's box.
However, the pin out on the mini port of the TD2 does allow for other things other than just sync and charge and then a specificaly wired cable would be required.
Common Mini usb works for other stuff too.
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source. Recently (after 3 weeks of use) my data cable began to come apart...
fearing i would have to buy something i couldnt afford and being mad that i have like 50 mini usb cords that i thought were useless, i found this thread and decided to test other features of the standard cable. So far I have found nothing that the cord cannot do.
my 2 cents.
geraldf80 said:
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source.
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Question: are you then using the HTC as a modem? If so, have you ever tried using it as a modem via Bluetooth? I have never managed this and nobody in the General forum has any advice. I can only use it via usb.
No I havent sorry. My laptop don't have bluetooth so the option never presented itself. perhaps searching for bluetooth internet sharing or making a post would be more helpful.. sorry.
On the TD2 you first need to pair your phone to your PC with Bluetooth
And then there's a program called 'Internet Sharing' on my TD2 menu, you just need to pair your phone and change what the internet sharing is going to (BT in this case) and away you go.
I've heard some carriers disable this and make you pay a surcharge for tethering, which I've heard you can get round with a registry hack
(i can't post links but I did google Touch Diamond 2 Bluetooth Internet Sharing)
Another quick and easy way to do it wirelessly is to use a program like WalkingHotSpot, which converts your TD2 into a WiFi hotspot which is my preferred method if i had to go down this path
Good luck!
The additional contacts in the original connector are for the headphones. Not used in USB & Charging.
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
GeScha said:
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
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That is true. I have been searching for a TD2 car charger with its specially profiled connector but could not find one. I am afraid that the standard mini USB connector will damaged the TD2 connector after prolonged use just like what had happened to my 838Pro. You need a little help with the wires and connector when charging or ActiveSync to get them connected.
Whoa this thread is a life saver. I'm in the middle of nowhere and lost my cable so couldn't charge my phone was looking for somewhere to order online it would have cost me at least 2 weeks.
Now i'm using my camera's standard usb cable.
Thank You.
I have all the normal!
Wow, I was kind of shocked, when I tried it - it worked!!! I have bought already 2 special htc oem cables - 1st one was already broken, and have never tried the original mini usb cable since now. It works perfectly too But I suppose if the mini usb cable is used, you have to be more careful for the connector, because there is some free space inside.
i'm using oem hp camera's cable. working fine on my diamond2
Thanks friends.
Hi there,
I was wondering, if it's possible to get a GNS Trafficbox FM9 connected to the HD2 (via adapter) to receive TMC-Data.
HyperGPS isn't working so far, so this could be the proper alternative...
Anybody's got some experience concerning this?
I've just bought a GNS Trafficbox FM9 which has come with a mini-B USB plug to use with my HD2. I've also bought a micro-b USB extension lead.
Taking the Trafficbox apart reveals a simple circuit board with the output wires coded in what appears to be standard USB colours. My thinking is that if I cut the USB A plug off the extension lead I should be able to solder them to the board and (hoepfully) away I go, avoidning all the traffic.
The extension lead should be here in a couple of days - I'll let you know how I get on.
If you are traveling and need to use GPS, but maps are loaded on a external card and you have your viewpad charging on lighter outlet.
or (my case) you have some serious amount of text to write and you need the keyboard connected as well as your wall mount charger....
Is there any known way to connect the battery charger and a peripheral as keyboard or usb mass storage device at the same time?
I'm thinking about some surgery to the usb-to-miniusb converter that I use to connect my desktop type keyboard to the viewpad, but don't know what could happen to the usb device or the keyboard. Neither know which of the 5 pins (contacts) of the charger is the active one...
Any suggestions?
Tnx in advance.
anothe question....
Ok... since there is no answer over 24hrs, I'll make another question to make this a little more interesting for you people could help me...
Is there any chance to connect a keyboard (already working) plus a SD card at the same time??
I'm making some fun stuff with a keyboard and making some surgery I could install some kind of "external USB Port" on the keyboard.... but, should it work?? I mean, keyboard and flash memory together, connected to one-single miniUSB port....
Developers.... any suggestion??
Thnx again...
Forgett to say.... on Viewpad7 with FROYO 2.2.1
Another idea
Ok, easy people... That bunch of comments about my topic make s me feel kind dizzy...
Just kidding....
Making some research (on goggle, haha!!), I've found that USB port on a pc have a 5volt-500mA output... So, if that's nominal out and that power could charge the viewpad AND don't turn on smoke any peripheral, Then I just have to connect power out on a wall-mount charger to the 1st pin (wire) of a 5 contact miniUSB, regarding on the power out put on 500mA.
(thanks isIran for your assistance )
now... PLEASE SOMEONE STOP ME IF I'M HAVING SOME IDIOTIC, TABLET BRICKING, IDEA!!!!
Thnx again
Hi,
The Viewpad wall charger have a non standard conector, if you look in the contact part you will see double connection.
In the main charger body you will find the pinout:
Pin 1 & 6 +, pin 5 & 10 -
These pins (6&10) are longer than the data pins to ensure that the power connections mate first and un-mate last.
The wall charger is 2 A and the USB PC port only 0.5A (0.9A for USB3)
For this reason a wall charger change in 2 hours and a PC USB in 15 hours.
A dedicated USB charger should short the 2 data lines together. The device will then not attempt to transmit or receive data, but can draw up to 1.8A
for this reason the device know when it's connected to a computer or to a dedicated charger (like a Garmin GPS)
Probably modifiying a connector (or keyboard) to provide energy and data will work.
Did you try a USB hub?
Less us know the result of your experience.
cheers
You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
ecossais said:
You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
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Right, this solve one problem, but is much expensive and less fun... Besides, didn't solve the flash drive plus charger issue...
About pins 6 &10... Just noticed that (in over a year never look that closer the charger pin).
I'll try usb hub, but I'm afraid to burn some flash drive or worst...
Thanx for your interest and helpful advice...
Hello xda world.
I did a search, first of all.
Now, I have a need (car pc) to use my 12v-5v regulated dc converter (5a output) to drive a USB port. I would like to enable it with a 3-throw switch so I can switch the port to the proper output, according to what phone is plugged in.
I know this involves shorting the data pins for android devices (easy), but how do apple devices know what they are plugged into? is it a certain resistance across the data pins?
I want 1 selection to be data port (no pins shorted, easy), 2nd selection there will be a direct short across the data pins (easy), and 3rd position i want it to act like an ipod charger. (???)
I will supply 5a to the port at all times so current will never be an issue.
Any reason anyone sees why this might not work?
Thanks for the help!
resinis said:
Hello xda world.
I did a search, first of all.
Now, I have a need (car pc) to use my 12v-5v regulated dc converter (5a output) to drive a USB port. I would like to enable it with a 3-throw switch so I can switch the port to the proper output, according to what phone is plugged in.
I know this involves shorting the data pins for android devices (easy), but how do apple devices know what they are plugged into? is it a certain resistance across the data pins?
I want 1 selection to be data port (no pins shorted, easy), 2nd selection there will be a direct short across the data pins (easy), and 3rd position i want it to act like an ipod charger. (???)
I will supply 5a to the port at all times so current will never be an issue.
Any reason anyone sees why this might not work?
Thanks for the help!
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ugh, nevermind I found it- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870586