Gingerbread Rom and Kernels.. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is more of a general suggestion to those making the TB GB roms and adding the kernel to them or thinking about it..
Since it would appear reading through the posts and trying out the kernel for myself, I have found that the current GB kernel just gives my phone fits and it appears that other's have the same issue. I know it works for some, wish mine did. But can we get or keep the GB Roms separate from the kernel for a bit?
My phone runs GB fine without the kernel, and it sounds like it runs fine for others as well, since the kernel appears to add issues, it makes it hard to try out Roms that have the kernel included.
Its just a suggestion and at least at some point down the road I (or we) could try the kernel(s) as it matures more. And for those that the kernel works on, they can use it..
Thanks!

If your talking about random reboots just let it throw a few, every time I change a GB kernel I get a few, then after that it's totally fine.

Me too. Mine usually reboots a few times right after I install and then just works.
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I don't quite get what you're saying. Every rom has a kernel. It's basically what allows the software to communicate with the hardware. You can't take the kernel out of a rom or you don't have a complete functional operating system.
You need to remember that the leak was a test version, kind of like a cyanogenmod nightly. So things are going to be broken. They will fix them over time, especially as new leaks emerge.
In the meantime, if you are having problems, just go back to froyo for now. It's fast and fully functional. Gingerbread will be unleashed with ALL of it's greatness soon enough. Then we'll be anxiously awaiting ice cream sandwich
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sgtguthrie said:
I don't quite get what you're saying. Every rom has a kernel. It's basically what allows the software to communicate with the hardware. You can't take the kernel out of a rom or you don't have a complete functional operating system.
You need to remember that the leak was a test version, kind of like a cyanogenmod nightly. So things are going to be broken. They will fix them over time, especially as new leaks emerge.
In the meantime, if you are having problems, just go back to froyo for now. It's fast and fully functional. Gingerbread will be unleashed with ALL of it's greatness soon enough. Then we'll be anxiously awaiting ice cream sandwich
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He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread. New kernels will come and the current ones are being worked on. What you may want to try is going into console and using speedtweak.sh to up the voltage if you are having reboot problems.
I know it gets hard to answer every question with a meaningless philosophical argument invalidating the question itself, but then again the forum has a minimum post count.

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He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread.
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Exactly, I have no problem running the default kernel that comes with GB Gingerjane 1.2 Rom as their is another kernel to possibly fix camera issues and they are separate downloads. Once I load that kernel I start having all kinds of problems, I restore my backup and all is good. I have seen some posts that others run into a similar issue. I thought it would just be good to keep them separate right now if possible. Its possible that some of the other GB Roms would work too, but I have the same issue with those and they include the new kernel as well for camera fix. So I have assume (I know bad word) that the common issue with mine and possibly others just could be that kernel for whatever reason.

twistedumbrella said:
He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread. New kernels will come and the current ones are being worked on. What you may want to try is going into console and using speedtweak.sh to up the voltage if you are having reboot problems.
I know it gets hard to answer every question with a meaningless philosophical argument invalidating the question itself, but then again the forum has a minimum post count.
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"Meaningless philosophical argument"? I really don't see where you get that from, but whatever...
Also, a low post count doesn't mean you're a noob, just not as active at xda. This isn't the only forum site on the Internet.
I just saw something on twitter, jcase was posting the stock gb kernel in his thread, so there you go...
Edit: it's posted, happy flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082001
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It's in the lightning rom thread too.
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sgtguthrie said:
I just saw something on twitter, jcase was posting the stock gb kernel in his thread, so there you go...
Edit: it's posted, happy flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082001
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It's in the lightning rom thread too.
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Thanks.. that works too.

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Best Rom Galaxy S II ???

I get my S II tomorrow and I've been looking around alot to see what the best rom out is, but there's loads of roms available.
What I'm asking is instead of spending multiple hours going through every rom to find out whats good, whats peoples favorites or what would you recommend,
Stuff I need working -
Camera
Onboard Storage
GPS
(These are musts)
I would preferably like things like overclocking stuff that utilizes the dual core 1.2ghz processor.
Any ideas and thanks in advance
With multiple exact same posts as yours .
One their is no bests rom .
Two read the individual rom threads and make up your own mind.
Three if unable to make up your mind stick with stock .
Four posts belongs Q&A
Stuff I need working -
Camera
Onboard Storage
GPS
You should find they come with the phone not the rom .
jje
Firstly sorry for not noticing the many other posts dedicated to this subject.
Secondary, camera etc may come with the phone but it doesn't specifically come with the rom, I have a Xperia Arc at the moment and the freexperia project doesnt have the camera up and running, so I feel like that was a valid question.
All I was asking is what people are using? What you prefer?
Not an index to what you hate and love about every rom
yusuo said:
Firstly sorry for not noticing the many other posts dedicated to this subject.
Secondary, camera etc may come with the phone but it doesn't specifically come with the rom, I have a Xperia Arc at the moment and the freexperia project doesnt have the camera up and running, so I feel like that was a valid question.
Camera is hardware it works on every rom always has .
All I was asking is what people are using? What you prefer?
Home brewed .
jje
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Coming from HTC Desire, I would of asked exactly the same questions. When new ROMS came out on HTC Desire, or the X10, not everything was working right from the start. Even on the ROMS on this phone it seems not everything is working, so surely the question is valid.
most are just themed roms and don't offer much over a rooted and tweaked stock rom.
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The most famous roms have all the features your looking for i believe, Better Camera, overclock 1.6 Ghz, Better GPS etc.
But you can't say which one is best cause they all are different in their own way, specially in themes and so on.
Cm 7
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@JJEgan, you were right in the other thread... this is getting ridiculous
@OP: there's really not much difference between them. The different ones are probably CM7, MIUI and Oxygen (they're not stable), the rest just have some modifications, and they mostly are stable with everything working. Just see which one has more views and pick one you think you like. Creating a thread like this has absolutely no point, you will get zero information out of it... even if people start answering you, you'll just get a random sample of what some people are using.
Stock
Just root it and add a kernel like niphetamine - get juicedefender too.
Simples.
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Villain Rom 2.4.2 best for me. It's based on stock firmware so gps, camera etc is working fine. Browser is laggy though so use Dolphin HD or another one from the market.
You get Villain tweaks too!
Flash the Ninphetamine kernel as its overclocked to 1.6ghz.
Sorted
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troffers said:
Villain Rom 2.4.2 best for me. It's based on stock firmware so gps, camera etc is working fine. Browser is laggy though so use Dolphin HD or another one from the market.
You get Villain tweaks too!
Flash the Ninphetamine kernel as its overclocked to 1.6ghz.
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True, villain rom is nice - but some of us prefer the stock browser too much. :/
If it wasnt for that, id probably use villain too.
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I agree with some of the others in this thread, just stock is best. Samsung polished the firmware really well and its amazing. Id say just flash a custom kernel if you want to do extra stuff like oc/uv or something. Really the only time i ever switch from stock is to try CM7 then or something. Other than that imo stock is best.
GS2 is the first phone where stock meet all my needs. Ive played with a couple of different roms and usually something happens after the first week.
Most roms in dev section give you a all in one package. So must of the tweaks that you would normally install manually are already preinstalled. This is the fun part about android with so many choices, try a couple out first and see what fits your needs.
This is a valid question, the more popular the phone the more hours of searching it takes. CM7 is buggy as hell. Stay away. Stick with stock and just flash a kernel. Samsung did a good job actually with this phone, especially with the skinning in my opinion. It amazes me people buy a super specd phone like this the install ROMS that strip the phone of it's power. CM7 is taking way too long honestly and it's absurd how buggy it is at this point in the phones release history.
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Revolution 2.6 is the best,it has a kitchen which makes life easier.
LonelyJourney said:
This is a valid question, the more popular the phone the more hours of searching it takes. CM7 is buggy as hell. Stay away. Stick with stock and just flash a kernel. Samsung did a good job actually with this phone, especially with the skinning in my opinion. It amazes me people buy a super specd phone like this the install ROMS that strip the phone of it's power. CM7 is taking way too long honestly and it's absurd how buggy it is at this point in the phones release history.
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Just a little rectification for OP and others: CM7 is an unstable nightly build officially, but it's usable. I have it for a week now, and I haven't had any serious problems. It's stable and I can use it just like the stock ROM, with very few limitations. I'm not going back to other roms for now
Leomar's revolution is amazing. Lots of customised stuff.
VillainROM for a stock look which allows for easily added tweaks. Friendly thread as well.
Ninphetamine kernel works great with both roms...
I atlculay lvoe my sumnasg glxaay s2 wtih VliaRionlm mroe tahn my xobx
I am using Lite'ning 6.1 with speedmod kernel T32 but it has not BLN so I will change kernel.
For me, the rom is perfect but anyway I have not tried more (in GT-i9000 I tried too much)
Cyanogenmod ofcourse
I dont have a rooted SGS2 but Cyanogenmod is on the vids very good and smooth.
There are a few issues but there are not major bugs.
Only A2DP dont work ... And a few another things !

Safe Roms

I've not seen a specfic thread dedicated to ROMS that people are using that appear to be flawless. I did do a search on here, but honestly, I'm new to Android and don't know exactly what to search for other than maybe CM7.1, UnNamed, and ROMs. of which you get way too many threads to sort through. figured I'd start this and people can add things. I'll keep it updated on this first post with updates as people post them. This may help others who are new find what they need to. If you know of a safe rom, post up. If you also know of a walkthrough of how to install it, post that up as well since other newbs may want help walking through their first flash. Thanks!
considering tomween1 already spent the time to create a thread with all the info you need (here) i think this thread is redundant. just my opinion, though.
nothing is "safe" if you dont know what you're doing or dont do homework, first. On the flip side, most roms are relatively safe if you know what to do. All the info you need to flash, root, whatever ... is usually stickied to the top of the section.
If it isn't from netchip, and you take care to READ all directions and instructions and warnings before flashing - everything here is safe.
(Only thing "unsafe" really is bootloaders - which is why I make sure any bootloader thread has plenty of warnings.)
I think he meant "safe" is the ROM has no error which all the cook ROMs have. Even the Stock ROm sometimes has a bug.
re: Errors
sweetboy02125 said:
I think he meant "safe" is the ROM has no error which all the cook ROMs have. Even the Stock ROm sometimes has a bug.
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NOTICE:
If anyone wants a custom rom without any bugs or errors please look elsewhere!
(xda is not the right place for you.)
if anyone is looking for:
1) something safe to flash
and
2) doesnt want to read and gain the proper knowledge prior to touching their phone
then they should leave their phone as it is right out of the box. There are a lot of people on this forum that are more than willing to help someone out but dont expect them to do all the work. You need to meet them half way and have some prior knowledge of what you are doing.
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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zgr8jakez said:
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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The problem is, if everyone posted bugs in this thread, you'd have to sift through pages and pages of posts to see if you have a similar problem. Even then, the problem may not be the rom but a bad flash or incompatibility with a app. This would be so cluttered, you wouldn't be able to get anything out of it. What if there was a bug and the dev fixed it in a update? A newb would read the thread and think there's a issue that hasn't been resolved. Bugs are best left to their dev thread where they can be announced and addressed. If you want to see what rom A has to offer, take the time to READ.
zgr8jakez said:
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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Hmmm.... these "bugs" look more like opinions or might possibly be user error. For me UnNamed is a battery genius and I probably got over 2 days of use on one charge. I'm using Bluetooth just fine on Serendipity right now. And cam on cm7 works better for some then it might work for you bro.
im on uname rom myself but look to make the change to {ROM} MIUI 1.10.21 {Updated on 10-25-11} cuz i love miui so, unmae is a very good fast rom i just miss miui.
task650 said:
Hmmm.... these "bugs" look more like opinions or might possibly be user error. For me UnNamed is a battery genius and I probably got over 2 days of use on one charge. I'm using Bluetooth just fine on Serendipity right now. And cam on cm7 works better for some then it might work for you bro.
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My thoughts exactly. (Except I never tried CM7)
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Yup. I've never had battery problems with gtg's ROM. Yes, S8 is slightly better on battery due to being more aggressively debloated, but it's not THAT much better.
Usually, anyone who encounters severe drain has encountered an app bug.
Slight exception: Any ROM that doesn't include my 10/20 kernel is susceptible to the fuel_alerted wakelock bug. Easy enough to flash my kernel over any ROM that hasn't been updated with the 10/20 kernel.
At this point, any user who claims a ROM is a battery drainer is usually at fault themselves. Especially if they haven't posted debugging info collected as documented in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
Most of the issues people have with roms are user errors.
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One thing I forgot: The UCKJ2 leak that is distributed as a .exe file is an "Odin One-Click" flash package which will flash crippled bootloaders. I would suggest avoiding it.
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Entropy512 said:
One thing I forgot: The UCKJ2 leak that is distributed as a .exe file is an "Odin One-Click" flash package which will flash crippled bootloaders. I would suggest avoiding it.
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What I am looking for is a complete stock 4 part odin flash rom like
this below but one which is for the SGS2 i777 phone and not the i9100.
OR an Odin One-Click flash for i777.
PIT select u1_02_20110310_emmc_EXT4.pit
PDA select CODE_I9100XXKI3_CL577579_REV02_user_low_ship.tar.md5
PHONE select MODEM_I9100XXKI3_REV_02_CL1062028.tar.md5
CSC select GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5
So far I could not find a 100% stock package for the i777 here in XDA.
Designgears had a very good odin one-click for the old captivate I used to have.
Either one would be good, one-click or just the complete 4 part odin flash.
Glad I could get the convo going! I'm very conservative when it comes to testing rom's and am a battery nazi as far as processes go. Cm7 is fine with still shots but unless they fixed it lately the fps on it was not perfect. I know I'm alone on the Bluetooth issue with s8 but had just gone from a fresh wipe to clean install
.. there have been allot of mms issues with that rom though..
UnNamed has more bloat so of course it will use more power after I froze the bloat it was where s8 was. The devs are amazing not knocking any at all just putting my 2 cents in. Btw the way I found the easiest way to play around with rom's was to back up in both cwm and titanium, flash one for a week and repeat indefinitely that way you can get the best of all worlds.
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CSC and cache get integrated into the system image on first boot - so you will never see a return-to-stock that includes csc and cache for UCKH7, since the return-to-stock was generated from a dumped phone, and since it's the initial stock firmware, H7 doesn't exist as Odin upgrade leaks anywhere.
Same exact deal as gtg's Ultimate Unbricks for the Infuse - the D5 unbrick (and I think the E3 unbrick too, will check tonight) were created from system dumps, so do not include a separate CSC or Cache file, as those get integrated into the system image on first boot.

I'm interested in XXLP2...

Hi guys!
I've been rather adamant to install ICS as I considered it to have too many bugs yet (like problems with video acceleration, unable to do a goddamn call, etc).
As of now I've been using the GB ROM Simple & Clean...Anyway, I'm not completely newbie to flash ROMs. I'm starting to think ICS might be becoming reliable already, so I'd like to give it a shot. So here come my questions:
Is there any XXLP2 (or better) ROM already prepared for CWM? I don't quite like the idea of using ODIN. (If so, is it too customized? I'd like a close to the original google experience)
Can you get back to a GB NAND backup if you don't like what you see?
Which would be your recommendation? Thank you!
timonoj said:
Hi guys!
I've been rather adamant to install ICS as I considered it to have too many bugs yet (like problems with video acceleration, unable to do a goddamn call, etc).
As of now I've been using the GB ROM Simple & Clean...Anyway, I'm not completely newbie to flash ROMs. I'm starting to think ICS might be becoming reliable already, so I'd like to give it a shot. So here come my questions:
Is there any XXLP2 (or better) ROM already prepared for CWM? I don't quite like the idea of using ODIN. (If so, is it too customized? I'd like a close to the original google experience)
Can you get back to a GB NAND backup if you don't like what you see?
Which would be your recommendation? Thank you!
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There are quite a few cwm ICS roms which you can find in Android development section. Which means no bootloader flash and easy restore to older rom.
There are ROM's like infected,ics resurrection which are ics theme and replace Samsung apps with google alternatives in cases of calendar, gallery, camera etc.
My recommendation would be to wait for an official ICS or a more stable build by which time more aosp feel rom's would have become more stable, which didn't seem to be the case IMO. (the stock leaked one seems to be far more stable than these builds atm from my admittedly limited trial. )
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You can try Bezke ultraics rom. i heard good reviews for it and i tried it myself, you can do so by using CWM. you can as well try the leaked ics but it only has TW because it is released by Samsung. this is done by ODIN.
ICS try goodbye revert back is the norm .
jje
JJEgan said:
ICS try goodbye revert back is the norm .
jje
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I know, and I've seen the pattern so many times already. But that's decreasing with the time. Things are starting to get comfortable for people arriving, and some decide to stay. And since some are saying the ROMs are starting to be rather stable, I'd like to give them a shot.
timonoj said:
I know, and I've seen the pattern so many times already. But that's decreasing with the time. Things are starting to get comfortable for people arriving, and some decide to stay. And since some are saying the ROMs are starting to be rather stable, I'd like to give them a shot.
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Yes maybe but the majority of noobs want to flash ICS when they are not even capable of flashing stock . Two hours later they start posting help help .But i have of now given up on trying to guide users to learn first as its a waste of time .
jje
So far not bad. I'm trying the Wanamlite, and it looks damn gorgeous. I'm having a hell of FC and random reboots. It's a pity. When it's not crashing or rebooting, it really performs beautifully. I could get used to the voice dictation so fast (forget about swype-dragon speaking combo). Since I didn't see people complaining about these reboots (that much), I take something went wrong on my side, so I'll give it another shot. Otherwise I'll try another ICS. I just feel it's getting rather close the date in which an stable version is released, and I'd prefer to jump from ICS already than from GB
used this thread to my actual try of LP2 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444651
full stock, only deodexed and CF-Root kernel.
After getting rid of all samsung hubs and SNS apks ( you can use the sitcky in themes and apps section started by Pulser_g2 for that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924 ), no more force closes for me.
trying now KP* kernels as someone reported they could fix the random data connection loss present on LP2 when phone is asleep.

[Q] Trying to figure out what to do next (noob questions)

First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
Crawshayi said:
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
EDIT 2
Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
jbreakfield said:
Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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I give up.... no more flashing for me

*begin rant* I give up. I'm tired of flashing different roms everytime just to have a stable device. I've tried all the ics roms for our device, but all seem to have their different issues to deal with. I'm now going to stick to rooted stock gb, for I feel that it meets my needs ,though its slow as hell. Imma wait for the official ics update, hopefully that is stable enough with no issues. The leaks have terrible battery life.
On another note, pun intended, if the whole T-Mobile modem situation doesnt work out, looks like imma sell this bad boy. I love the size and the screen, but I value stability. Maybe I'll wait for cm9 to come out alongside the official kernel. If that doesn't help, bye bye g note.
Anyone else feel like this? Imma try out saurom in the mean time, tho I'm in love with ics.
Dueces.
*end of rant.
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Saurom on dag's kernel is the only rom I will ever flash until we get access to the kernel
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I felt the same way until I tried flapjaxx base ics. Its very stable compared to the others I've tried.
I really think it is an app causing your issues, or the way you are restoring them. The latest ICS leak is rock solid for me, not a single FC after weeks of use, and insane battery life. Off the charger for 14 hours and at 68% right now.
Try going to a solid no frill ROM (might I suggest the one by Flappjaxx). Set the CPU to use the FJ settings. Then just try a basic setup for a while. Don't go crazy with the apps, just configure mail and whatnot, see how everything goes for a day or two.
Do yourself a favor and down load this rom, i have been using for about 2weeks and its more stable than GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170
Flashing aint for everyone. So, if you can't take it then leave, I guess. I don't know what you're whining about. I have had several fast, stable ROMs on my Note. I am currently using Flapjaxxx IMM. (By the way, the link above me is for a rip off of Flapjaxxx ROM so yes, it works.) As already stated, your issues may very well be your own cause. Depending on how you flash and restore your data you may be messing it up yourself. One last thing. You have no right to feel so entitled. These ROMs, and XDA as a whole, is experimental and FREE. So stop whining.
Before giving up try FlapJaxx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
I agree with the others. Try flashing Flapjaxx's ROM and installing your apps again manually instead of using Tibu. Most likely something app related, because most of the roms are stable as hell for most people.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
shaokang said:
My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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Which version of Flap's did you try? It was updated like a week and a half ago, and cut copy and paste work just fine.
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It's unfortunate that you are having these issues. I'm running the latest unofficial CM9 and it's solid with everything I use (don't use spen) . I haven't had an fc yet.
I'm at 31% after 15 hours off charger. 2 hours of screen time and 40 minutes of phone time as well as some steaming music through my Bluetooth, headset.
I will say that I'm very anxious for Samsung to release the official ICS so we can get an overclock kernel.
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I've tried most of the roms with varying degrees of success....I am currently running the hybrid 6.2 and it had been fast and stable! I was running an earlier version and did an upgrade but ended up doing a full wipe....I reinstalled all of my apps manually and it really works great now.... Just my two cents worth....lol
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
shaokang said:
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Like someone said, flashing isn't for everyone. If you are having problems now you didn't have on stock rom before, obviously the way you flash isn't right. Especially when others are okay on problems you have on the same rom.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I don't think there's that much broke with the ICS roms. On Flapjaxx's ROM the only thing broke afaik is MHL out, which I don't use, so to me, the ROM is fully functional. Plus, since it's ICS, I also have the premium suite and SVoice, which is even more capability than any GB ROM. Don't get me wrong, I loved Solaris Prime when I used to run it, but once ICS leaked, there was no turning back. I guess the only other thing I can't do is overclock, which doesn't matter to me anyways, as ICS is already smoother than Solaris Prime was overclocked.
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Not to be rude but if you can't appreciate the work thats done by the community then you shouldn't be here. Every dev provides disclaimers (which most people don't bother to read I guess), and they do so because they don't want to deal with people whining. I do a lot of free work for people and there is nothing more disheartening than someone moaning and whining that the free help/work I'd done was not enough, when in reality the same amount of effort would've cost them $200+ dollars without the personal touches.
Blame Samsung, they haven't officially released ICS for this device. You come in here and start badmouthing ICS roms, which were produced by the effort of devs, who ask us for our input, then have to wade through the innumerable useless posts and weed out the genuine feedback they need to improve the user experience for us.
/end rant.
I wouldn't really rant about it on XDA, but from what I read in the various ROM threads the OP isn't far off. The ROMs are generally good, EXCEPT for X, Y, Z, oh this doesn't work, and there's a bug there, etc.
I often see a lot of this is due to people trying silly DPI numbers, and that's just self-inflicted problems... Unfortunately a lot of that gets attributed to ROM problems when it should not be, and in fact at least one ROM thread has very clear if you're NOT running 320, don't report bugs.
Personally, stock rooted GB is working great and I'll keep using it until I see an ICS ROM that doesn't have as many caveats as I see in various threads. Some of these might be feature-over-function problems (adding too much random stuff into a ROM) but I'd say a lot of it is due to kernel and ICS Source. Hopefully the latter is less a problem as it was a month ago or so, but the kernel of course is still outstanding.
I do my fair share of tinkering on secondary devices and tablets, but my Note is my primary phone, so I don't mess with it.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people who don't want to tinker, they just want to put a ROM on their phone. That's the XDA atmosphere of today. IMO those people should not flash random ROMs on their phone.
Flapjaxx ICS rom is excellent .
Guaranteed my stock build was worse. And battery was horrible on stock. Rooted or not that bloated 2.3.6 stock rom wasted my time.
If ya don't like bugs ....wipe data /factory reset and put the phone down.
They "all " have bugs.
At least our batteries don't melt like an isheep phone ..LOL ....g
You should try objections ucle2 #2 RC1 its really fast and stable. I know what you mean it gets old having to be flashing every other day but what can you do. Its the only way to keep up with the software.
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Try one of flapps roms, I've been in all of them and they are all great...
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