Why Root the SGS 2 ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
Just wanted to know why would SGS2 Users want to root their phones ?
Cause
1. Its one of the fastest devices out there
2. Its on latest Gingerbread ( honeycomb yes but not big deal yet and Icecream Roms not out yet)
3. If you don't like touchwiz you can go for launcherpro or ADW launcher or any of those.
People nomally would root if their devices haven't got the official latest software updates or to squeeze a bit more juice out of their ageing devices like my Hero which has been rooted and booted a hundred times.
The reason for my asking is I am considering buying this or the HTC sensation (locked bootloader I know) and would know what benefit it would be for rooting the SGS2 NOW.....
I understand when Icecream Sandwich is out and about it would make sense but is it really worth rootind your brand new Device ?
Or have we become Flash-o-holics addcited to XDA's and Cyanogens ROMs that we HAVE to ROOT and FLASH and have those sleepless nights to test out the new roms

The reason I've rooted mine is to use apps that require root (cachmate, root explorer, titanium backup etc) and also to freeze via Titanium Backup the apps and services I don't use, which should lead to better battery life if they aren't running in the background

That's pretty much it ^

Not rooted yet but 100% sure im going to (unless i get a brick)
Reasons :
-Full read/write access to the system folder.
-Recoveries : Nandroid backup, flashable zips, wipe battery stats all that good stuff that comes with a recovery (this is what im waiting for then ill root)
-The apps as mentioned earlyer (titanium, addfree, root explorer and many more)
hmm thats all i can think of at the mo.

I rooted it, as I needed adb push to /system for quick adding of new files to my ROM

No real reason to root it when you use it as a normal user.
Hackers root for fun
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RW access to /system for me.
I *HATE* android at 240 lcd density, looks like a childs phone. First thing I do is change to somewhere between 167 and 192.

I rooted to use Titanium Backup and Adfree, that's pretty much it actually.

tfn said:
Hi
1. Its one of the fastest devices out there
2. Its on latest Gingerbread ( honeycomb yes but not big deal yet and Icecream Roms not out yet)
3. If you don't like touchwiz you can go for launcherpro or ADW launcher or any of those.
People nomally would root if their devices haven't got the official latest software updates or to squeeze a bit more juice out of their ageing devices like my Hero which has been rooted and booted a hundred times.
Rooting is nothing to do with firmware or launchers its gaining a higher degree of ROOT access on the phones operating system .
To let certain apps operate at a deeper level than is allowed as posted root explorer titanium etc ..
Rooting will invalidate your warranty .
jje
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tfn said:
Just wanted to know why would SGS2 Users want to root their phones ?
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Same as anyone else, I guess: removing bloat (hubs, ...), changing config files (gps.conf, ...), running apps that need root to work (AdFree, ClockSync, Tit Backup, ...), ...
tfn said:
People nomally would root if their devices haven't got the official latest software updates or to squeeze a bit more juice out of their ageing devices
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Err, no. For deploying custom firmware you need an unlocked bootloader, not root. Two quite different things, really.
tfn said:
The reason for my asking is I am considering buying this or the HTC sensation (locked bootloader I know)
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Locked bootloader and /system write-protected below the OS level. If you care about modding and tinkering at all stay away from newer HTC phones. And since you needed to ask I'm guessing you do.
Yes, I know they'll probably/maybe be hacked some time - but why bother when other manufacturers are much more dev friendly? Heck, even S-E seem to be getting it ...

Rooting will really bring more advanced feature. By rooting you can access to the root system of the phone, thus you can fully control your phone. You can control the permission when you install the apps. You can install apps that need root access.

To deal with apps that request permissions that they normally shouldn't request.

I rooted my device to show off to friends who havent rooted it

Why? To be able to use Privacy Guard and stop intrusion from Google and half of all app devs. For me this is more than enough to root your device. Also, to get rid of all the Samsung bloatware such as social hub and other junks.
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From some locations, you don't have access to paid Market apps unless you root and run Market Enabler.

I did it mainly to be able to play Tegra games.

Stonos said:
To deal with apps that request permissions that they normally shouldn't request.
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How do you do that? I rooted my phone. I would like an easy way to selectively control permissions by app.

kbiz90 said:
How do you do that? I rooted my phone. I would like an easy way to selectively control permissions by app.
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LBE Security Guard will do that for free. Lookout does it at an annual cost. I'm sure there's others out there too, but I really rate LBE.

johncmolyneux said:
LBE Security Guard will do that for free. Lookout does it at an annual cost. I'm sure there's others out there too, but I really rate LBE.
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Thanks. Can I do it in Titanium Backup? That seems to be a must-have app while I root around for the best custom ROM. If not, I'll try LBE Security Guard as well.

I really want to try rooting my SGS2. But I'm afraid it'll void my warranty. Just got my phone yesterday so I wouldn't want to void my warranty.

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[Q] Manual GB upgrade?

Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
Stratejaket said:
Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
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I wasn't really planning on rooting. Would you just suggest waiting another eternity for VZW and HTC to push out the fixed version of GB?
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My backup pro will work
I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
jumpman1229 said:
Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
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Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
Stratejaket said:
I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
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Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
thepolishguy said:
Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
jumpman1229 said:
Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
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Oh yeah. that file will most certainly wipe you out and you'll have to start all over. I still haven't found a solution for backing up wo out root. Sorry.
I'm pretty sure backing up the .apk part isn't a big deal, worst case you can just redownload that. You want the DATA part backed up. The apk is just the file format android uses to install software. Like .exe in windows. (I'm pretty sure at least.)
The post from android police you linked will definitely wipe everything. If you don't make a root accessible back up you will lose all of your app data.
I totally understand the warranty concern. I held out for as long as I could. I received the OTA to GB and was very unimpressed. After hoping for months that the update would be more than what it is, I took the leap into freedom of root and made my phone what I wanted it to be.
Sounds like you should check out some new backgrounds to keep you interested in your current setup.
thepolishguy - Don't worry about it bro. Thanks for trying to help. Left you a thanks
Stratejaket - That's Exactly how I was feeling. If this GB update fix doesn't come soon, I will definitely look into rooting. Lol I was getting bored with this thing lol. Also left you a thanks for trying to help. *runs to zedge for a new background*
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*runs to zedge for a new background*
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HAHA Good Luck man.

Just curious! What do you use root for discussion

Didn't really know if this was the right place to post this, but I was just wondering what everyone uses their rooted me7 S4 for? Like what sort of apps do you utilize since there isn't much as far as customizing that we can do without an unlocked bootloader. Just a discussion for everyone to spitball in while we wait for the next android god to unlock our phones!
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Used to do it for the different ROMs and using the MODs.
Now I've kind of outgrown the whole "crack-flashing" phase, and just root it to try any new ground-breaking MOD/ROM/App, etc.
Also, I just love knowing that I have the freedom of being Rooted.
XDA community is beautiful.
It's easier just to name the apps I mainly use when rooted:
AdAway (ad blocker)
Titanium Backup (backup app)
DroidWall (firewall)
Also uninstalling/freezing bloatware. Of course, it's awesome because you can flash ROMs, too.
Theming and removing bloat
I rooted so I could use Wallet, a few other apps and to remove bloat. I can't stand the crap Verizon puts on their phones. 3+ years ago, I'd flash a rom almost daily but I too have grown out of the crack flashing phase.
Well, at first I used admin/sudo/root to learn what made my computer work, and consequently what made it stop working, and how to repair things when the system didn't like what I did to it. Then how to make the computer more responsive through config edits.
When I got my first andriod it was pretty much the above all over again but way littler. I don't think I can count how many times I've soft bricked my phones by poking around in file systems I shouldn't have been poking around in.
Then I focused on how to make my devices faster without using prebuilt "OMGITSFASTHUMINAHUMINAHUMINA" script pack zips found across the internet and here. So learned how scripts worked in general to automate a lot of mundane functions.
Then, My buddy Kyle was working on a performance kang of liquid for the DX. I offered to help get more performance out of it. And then I eventually took over the ROM building in that project and a bunch of others for that series of devices.
Root isn't so much to me about "check it out bro I'm rooted, I've got stock cyanogenmod10 on, yeah high five" as it is about what I'm able to do with that ability and more importantly what I'm able to learn by actually using that ability. That's why I try to make my updater scripts print on screen what the script is doing... To potentially help someone who didn't know what was going on potentially learn a little bit.
Besides all that, I enjoy theming my UI. And with how much I end up flashing ROMs RomToolbox Pro has been my go to for app backups. :good:
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Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
Aside from the performance and mod benefits, I find it therapeutic. Everytime I freeze/uninstall Vznavigator, Back up assistant plus, Verizon tones or anything Verizon related app I feel good knowing im doing mankind a favor by eliminating an atrocious and insulting excuse of an app.
Plus...theres nothing better than the feeling you get when you toggle that wifi hotspot switch on, especially after you've just successfully upgraded and kept your unlimited data by enduring the long, grueling and degrading task of dealing with the incompetence that is Vzw customer service.
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I prefer to root just because of the awesome features.. Open source will always be popular and gives everyone their own chance to be different.
Remove bloatware, remove the persistent WiFi on the dropdown (which eats battery life), adaway so I get rid of stupid ads (I prefer to pay for the app and not the ads). ROM's when the bootloader gets unlocked (again).
myn said:
Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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This would be great
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I'm rooted for, TitaniumBackup, AdFree, Tasker (disable/enable pattern). No more ROM flashing for me even though I was able to save MDK.
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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Anthony825 said:
I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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Ask and you shall receive. I did a quick Google search and found a few threads on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/0...g-wifi-notification-on-the-verizon-galaxy-s3/
http://androidcommunity.com/how-to-...-notification-on-verizon-galaxy-s-4-20130527/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41940273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290634
Awesome thanks very much! I'll have to check this out and shut that annoyance down.
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Well I did a bit of digging further and found this info. The YouTube video and DroidForums thread requires custom recovery, but the XDA-Devs link at the bottom seems to have a method for ME7 FW release. Trying that tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0QvmeHt0U
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sa...fi-notifications-smart-stay-eye-pulldown.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
myn said:
Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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I suggested something similar in the bounty thread. I was thinking something similar to boot manager where you could flash ROMs while in android to the SD... Could that work?
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taxi333 said:
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
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Sorry to bounce backwards in posts, but I was unable to locate an app called Adaway. Is it not able to be found in the app store?
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[Q] Best way to remove bloatware on nonrooted phone?

My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
You should did root
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What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
lpimpale said:
You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
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How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
As I mentioned every time I need to do a factory reset it takes about 4 hours of disabling things to get it to the state I want.
There's this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058944
xda'dra said:
You should did root
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I can't.
Planterz said:
What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
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Thanks.
es0tericcha0s said:
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
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Yes you can disable them but it takes about 4 hours to do it each time. There's a lot of them. About 95% of stuff needs to be disabled.
Towelroot looks great unfortunately I am not able to root the phone. They don't use knox. I can do anything but root the phone really. I really just want vanilla android I'm a bit sick of touchwiz. I'd love to just flash to the developer edition or something.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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The S4s bootloader is locked so basically not a lot to choose from. And as others have mentioned you need root to gain access to remove bloatware. Sadly samsung phones on VZW are filled with it as well as many other phones, it's not limited to just samsung.
And navigator may be better than Google maps but maps is free and having been a former user of both NFL mobile (when it was free) and navigator I'm happy I got rid of both of them
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bird11 said:
How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
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You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
el-figurin said:
You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
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I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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ShapesBlue said:
I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
el-figurin said:
Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
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That's very true. Some people however don't know you need root to remove bloatware or unneeded apps
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Does rooting change your phone behavior ?

Does rooting change your phone behavior in any way, I know it enhance your phone's performance but can I still be able to use it normaly like calling and texting and download apps from Google app store like everyone else does or do you need new methods to use your phone after rooting ?
and which apps do you recommend downloading on a rooted android
Raizel-nim said:
Does rooting change your phone behavior in any way, I know it enhance your phone's performance but can I still be able to use it normaly like calling and texting and download apps from Google app store like everyone else does or do you need new methods to use your phone after rooting ?
and which apps do you recommend downloading on a rooted android
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Rooting doesn't enhance the performance in its self. And to be honest it really sounds like you don't really have a reason to do it.
All it does is all you admin rights.
zelendel said:
Rooting doesn't enhance the performance in its self. And to be honest it really sounds like you don't really have a reason to do it.
All it does is all you admin rights.
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Should installing an av on rooted phone better? i do want to try the kitkat version since im on jellybean btw apps keep asking for root privileges or something like that should i agree or deny ? :crying:
Raizel-nim said:
Should installing an av on rooted phone better? i do want to try the kitkat version since im on jellybean btw apps keep asking for root privileges or something like that should i agree or deny ? :crying:
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I think you might be very under informed when it comes to this. If an app is needing root rights then you should know if you should allow them or not.
The only way to use an OS on a device is to do an update.
ill be honest. Maybe you should take a few weeks and do some research before you end up bricking your device.

Give it to me straight, am I screwed?

Hey guys,
I recently purchased a Galaxy S9+ SM-G965U1 From Ebay not realizing it couldn't be rooted. Rooting is probably the most important factor to me on a phone.
I noticed that there is no way to do it or unlock the bootloader.
Is anyone working on this for us? Or am I screwed? I'd rather not send back the phone as I already put Dome Glass on it, and got it activated with Metro.
Give it to me straight, will I ever see Root on this device?
I think not,If The Device you have is snapdragon variant
No hope on root, if it is snapdragon. But if it is exynos, then u can root.
No root needed. Enjoy your phone as is.
Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Root is definitely getting overrated. I'm doing everything I've done on root without.
Substratum is the best thing to happen to Android, and specifically to Samsung.
creep138 said:
Root is definitely getting overrated. I'm doing everything I've done on root without.
Substratum is the best thing to happen to Android, and specifically to Samsung.
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I agree with you root really is overrated nowadays, except for one thing...
Making nandroid backups or similar is definitely one of the biggest advantages to having root.
Cloud based backups don't retain any of your apps data and if that particular app doesn't backup your account then you're screwed starting over from scratch.
I sure do miss making titanium backups...
To the OP... No root for SM-G965U or SM-G965U1 variants, and I wouldn't hold my breath on it being rooted either.
aka120 said:
I agree with you root really is overrated nowadays, except for one thing...
Making nandroid backups or similar is definitely one of the biggest advantages to having root.
Cloud based backups don't retain any of your apps data and if that particular app doesn't backup your account then you're screwed starting over from scratch.
I sure do miss making titanium backups...
To the OP... No root for SM-G965U or SM-G965U1 variants, and I wouldn't hold my breath on it being rooted either.
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What I really want is an Ad free experience, I'm coming from a Moto X Pure and had that baby running pretty silky.
I'd also like to be able to use custom roms.
Do you know if there is a way to get rid of Bixby? Or other system apps besides disabling them?
And what is Substratum? Excuse my noobiness.
ShamanBlues said:
What I really want is an Ad free experience, I'm coming from a Moto X Pure and had that baby running pretty silky.
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With the galaxy S9+ and knox you can use apps like adhell3 to achieve an adfree experience. Other apps exist as well that create fake/internal VPN connections to block advertisements... Adguard is one that works pretty good too.
ShamanBlues said:
I'd also like to be able to use custom roms.
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I enjoy the ability to tweak the performance and experience on my phone as well (not to mention the nandroid backups), but regrettably if and when it may come for get this phone is unknown. Samsung built this phone with security in mind so we may be in for a long wait for any root method (if one ever eventually materializes).
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Do you know if there is a way to get rid of Bixby? Or other system apps besides disabling them?
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If you can not uninstall the app then maybe an ADB method exists. To be honest with system apps I would suggest you just disable them instead of removing them. Adhell3 allows for disabling of apps, and I have used it to disable several system apps. There is ample enough space on the phone (and with the use of external storage) that I personally have no cause for removing them at all. Besides the chance exists you might break something if you inadvertently remove the wrong system app.
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And what is Substratum? Excuse my noobiness.
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If memory serves right it's a theme engine for the phone. Allows you to install user made substratrum themes.
You can also use BxActions to change the use of Bixby button
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You can also use BxActions to change the use of Bixby button
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Tasker beta also has the ability to do this. Currently using Google Assistant as the single press, but if I need to use bixby I just hold the button in.
Later Samsung bixby updates also allow changes to the button, but the only caveat with this is you can't set it to competing voice assistants.
As others said unfortunately no root, but also as others said root is now overrated.
The only 2 things i can't do is custom ROM and nandroid backup. I getting away from google so i use different apps and email etc.
But since no root
I use Brave browser it has built in ad blocking, blokada a vpn ad blocker, package disabler pro to disable bixby, facebook and the update services, and bXAction to remap the bixby button.
Good luck
akhil333 said:
No hope on root, if it is snapdragon. But if it is exynos, then u can root.
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Seriously? If it's exynos, it CAN be rooted? This is the first I've heard that any S9/+ can be rooted. Thanks!

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