The SGS2 retains it's 800x480 resolution. Yet it further increases its screen size.
That's the only factor that's hampering me from purchasing one.
Even the Atrix gets a heightened resolution and yet over a smaller area.
Anyone else facing this dilemma?
Well the Atrix has pentile matrix sub-pixels like the SGS had, but the SGS2 doesn't.
So the effective resolution should be pretty similiar.
More here.
I'm thinking of getting a Nexus S over the Samsung S2...Do you think the screen on the Samsung S2 is a huge jump from the Super AMOLED Nexus S? Is it really worth it...
Long story short, the SGS2 has more sub-pixels than the Atrix, and double the SGS.
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Lol. Off-putting seems to be going viral.
Here is another way to look at it.
The PPI for the SGS 2 is 218.49, the PPI for the SGS is 233.24, and the PPI for the Atrix is 275.36. BUT, if we add in the extra sub-pixels from the SuperAmoled Plus display the theoretical PPI is 327.74. The iphone 4 has a PPI of 326, so it is actually sharper than an iphone 4.
Didn't realize it was so sharp but when you put it that way, it makes me want this phone even more. =)
ryude said:
Here is another way to look at it.
The PPI for the SGS 2 is 218.49, the PPI for the SGS is 233.24, and the PPI for the Atrix is 275.36. BUT, if we add in the extra sub-pixels from the SuperAmoled Plus display the theoretical PPI is 327.74. The iphone 4 has a PPI of 326, so it is actually sharper than an iphone 4.
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correct me if i'm wrong but PPI is PPI - sub pixels contribute nothing to PPI so your theory above is totally wrong.
And all the people just repeating jibberish about how more sub pixels make a display clearer/ significantly better are clueless about resolution.
kona786 said:
correct me if i'm wrong but PPI is PPI - sub pixels contribute nothing to PPI.
And all the people just repeating jibberish about how more sub pixels make a display clearer/ significantly better are clueless about resolution.
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It's a theoretical boost to PPI, because it does actually increase sharpness and reduces eye strain due to clearer text/images. Sub-pixels do actually make the display clearer.
Here's a video showing Super Amoled Plus vs an iphone 4 (IPS display).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDIEUv-xkfI
ryude said:
Here is another way to look at it.
The PPI for the SGS 2 is 218.49, the PPI for the SGS is 233.24, and the PPI for the Atrix is 275.36. BUT, if we add in the extra sub-pixels from the SuperAmoled Plus display the theoretical PPI is 327.74. The iphone 4 has a PPI of 326, so it is actually sharper than an iphone 4.
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Just all wrong. The iphone 4 uses a regular rgb stripe arrangement. Its definitely the highest ppi out.
Samoled+ its simply a standard rgb layout.
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eallan said:
Just all wrong. The iphone 4 uses a regular rgb stripe arrangement. Its definitely the highest ppi out.
Samoled+ its simply a standard rgb layout.
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Wrong.
Super AMOLED Plus displays are an upgrade to Super AMOLED. They use a real-stripe subpixel matrix and not pentile - and so has 50% more sub-pixels. The PPI is a bit larger but Samsung will soon make them at much higher resolutions. Super AMOLED Plus displays are also thinner, brighter and use 18% less energy than the older Super AMOLED displays.
Super AMOLED has 2 sub-pixels per Pixel. So, for a resolution of 800*480, it has 768000 sub-pixels.
The Super AMOLED Plus has 50% more sub-pixels than Super AMOLED with PenTile Matrix. So, for a resolution of 800*480, it has 1152000 sub-pixels.
A Standard Matrix RGB use 3 sub-pixels per pixel. So, for a resolution of 800*480, it has 1152000 sub-pixels. Exactly the same number as the Super AMOLED Plus.
Retina Display has a resolution of 960*640 with 3 sub-pixels per pixel wich gives 1843200 sub-pixels.
ryude said:
Wrong.
Super AMOLED Plus displays are an upgrade to Super AMOLED. They use a real-stripe subpixel matrix and not pentile - and so has 50% more sub-pixels. The PPI is a bit larger but Samsung will soon make them at much higher resolutions. Super AMOLED Plus displays are also thinner, brighter and use 18% less energy than the older Super AMOLED displays.
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Both the iphone screen and SAMOLED+ have the same amount of subpixels the iphone has a higher ppi but the color are better on SAMOLED+
scores87 said:
Both the iphone screen and SAMOLED+ have the same amount of subpixels the iphone has a higher ppi but the color are better on SAMOLED+
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Yes, the iphone has more pixels but from my experience side by side with a captivate and an iphone 4 the sgs 2 will blow the iphone out of the water.
ryude said:
Yes, the iphone has more pixels but from my experience side by side with a captivate and an iphone 4 the sgs 2 will blow the iphone out of the water.
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It comes to personal preference in the end really. I prefer the my Desire's AMOLED, while my friend prefers the iPhone's display over his SGS' SAMOLED.
ryude said:
Wrong.
Super AMOLED Plus displays are an upgrade to Super AMOLED. They use a real-stripe subpixel matrix and not pentile - and so has 50% more sub-pixels. The PPI is a bit larger but Samsung will soon make them at much higher resolutions. Super AMOLED Plus displays are also thinner, brighter and use 18% less energy than the older Super AMOLED displays.
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I'm quite right. Samoled+ is awesome but your explanation in relation to the iphone 4 (or really and lcd except the atrix) was incorrect.
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Does that mean that the SGS had been having the poorest resolution all along? Seeing that it has only 2 sub pixel.
ShadedCyan said:
Does that mean that the SGS had been having the poorest resolution all along? Seeing that it has only 2 sub pixel.
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Not really, it's not that simple. It has a resolution of 800x480. Each of those pixels can be made of whatever type of sub-pixel layout the decide. The atrix looks quite a bit different than the normal SAMOLEDs. The SGS2's subpixel resolution is lacking I suppose. Typically people can't make out individual subpixels.
Too put it another way:
Red and blue were 240x400 on the SGS. Green was the full 480x800.
On the SGS 2, all three will be 480x800.
On my phone, when the battery is low, the solid red battery meter looks like checkerboard.
Also, who cares about the iPhone's screen... It's just going to shatter anyway with it's wanna-be gorilla glass.
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Hi,
I was wondering if someone who has the S2 and has had or spent some time with an iPhone 4 can comment on how clear the screen/text is when reading web pages etc.
I have a Nexus One and the resolution is horrible compared to the iPhone 4.
Does the RGB vs Pentile make a big difference?
I don't have the galaxy yet, but yes text will look much sharper. The nexus one had the pentile pixel layout, new galaxy does not.
Just play with the inspire or thunderbolt. They have same size large screen with same proper pixel layout as the new galaxy s, but it will also have amoled ad well. Best of both worlds.
much much better than sgs pentile but it suffers from heavy aliasing on web pages.i did notice this as soon as i got the phone even engadget points this out. the screen is great but the text on web pages are not as sharp as i'd like them to be(i did take into consideration that iphone's ips display has higher res).i wish some dev's could start on fixing this I'd more than happy to buy them a few beers.
the screen over all is great.heck its the best out there.
I wonder why it would have worse aliasing than the nexus one or first galaxy s, since they have pentile pixels. This has higher resolution, more pixels, yet has an aliasing issue. Very strange, and disappointing...
RogerPodacter said:
I wonder why it would have worse aliasing than the nexus one or first galaxy s, since they have pentile pixels. This has higher resolution, more pixels, yet has an aliasing issue. Very strange, and disappointing...
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Probably just a bug in Samsung's browser, it'll be fixed eventually.
maybe try opera or dolphin HD and see.
I wonder if the screen on the galaxy s ii will look the same as the galaxy s with voodoo color.
Super Amoled Plus = Super Amoled w/ voodoo color?
I hope supercurio cooks come kernels for this phone!
It will look better cause the galaxy s2 has physically more pixels than the super amoled.
Got an SGS2 last week and need to say I was quite deluded by text clarity. Not only does not compare to Iphone of gf (miles away) but it is even worse than Xperia Arc. I notice the aliasing on most letters not only in browser (stock or otherwise, tried several) but also on Gmail and Kindle, basically anywhere that there is a strong contrast between font color and background (ie black on white or viceversa). I'm not sure if the phone is victim of its own features like super contrast that makes jaggies more visible or there is a problem with my handset. Would appreciate if other people having the SGS2 and another phone (not pentile matrix based ofc) could report their experience.
Scaven said:
Hi,
I was wondering if someone who has the S2 and has had or spent some time with an iPhone 4 can comment on how clear the screen/text is when reading web pages etc.
I have a Nexus One and the resolution is horrible compared to the iPhone 4.
Does the RGB vs Pentile make a big difference?
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not 100% but i believe so. The RGB has a 50% increase in sub-pixels which basically gives the appearance of having a higher resolution/ppi. (at least that's what I've been led to believe)
I know that both are Super Amoled HD... but are they using a better panel on the s3? Or does it look pretty much the same?
Thanks
Pretty much the same... the only difference is that samsung have fine tuned the display on the gs3 so whites look better as do other colours.
Samsung saying they have put pixels closer together is marketing bs.
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I have a galaxy nexus and a galaxy S3 and there is a clear difference between the screens.
I have the colours tuned on my galaxy nexus and the S3 is still miles better.
Its sharper and more vibrant.
They may both be the same tech (super amoled HD) but they used better panels for.the S3.
i I was searching for my soon coming galaxy s3 and i found out that S3 have only 306 ppi but that old school google nexus have 326 (just like ratena display 327ppi) so my question is DO you fells like you watching PIXALS in your screen (because well my eyesight is better then good )...
And is S3 in real have HD screen ????
No, but if ypu look very close (1.5) you will pattern on white colors
Nothing's really wrong with my current tablet, I was wondering if the screen was noticeably better or the S-Pen made a big difference.
I have an Tab S1 10.5" myself and i use it mostly for watching my Anime video`s so the S2 and S3 are not of interest to me.
The S1 was best for Video because of the 16:10 aspect ratio, also it had a rgb-stripe screen and the dpi higher than the S2 and S3 have a 4:3 aspect ratio and a cheaper pentile display, so you would have large black boarders at the top and bottom of the screen, though the S2 and S3 is better for browsing and art and writing, also the S3 might be better for audio as it has 4 speakers.
Below is a link to a comparison of the specs between the S1, S2 and S3
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8554&idPhone2=7438&idPhone3=6235
I cannot comment on S3 colour accuracy and the new hdr mode, but it`s supposed to look great.
If anybody want to know about rgb-stripe and pentile pixel patterns.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p...0..0.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0.tNVyLSra6II
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Gajesh6 said:
Nothing's really wrong with my current tablet, I was wondering if the screen was noticeably better or the S-Pen made a big difference.
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I just did the same, and I jumped from the Tab S1 (wifi) to S3 (lte) and honestly the only benefit you get is better frame rates in some heavy/demanding games.
I mainly got the S3 because I wanted a tablet with LTE, and after the amazing S1 screen, I couldn't get any less than the S3.
So the answer is no, don't spend you money unless you want something very specific (like in my case).
Gajesh6 said:
Nothing's really wrong with my current tablet, I was wondering if the screen was noticeably better or the S-Pen made a big difference.
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The screen is much brighter on the s3. As someone said it is smaller.
Your battery is wearing out too. But I think the 10.5 had a better battery life.
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