Can you charge the Gtab through USB? - G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just ordered a portable USB charger.
Does the gtab take a charge from either of its usb ports?
I hope it does

Nope, but I am a noob. Ask an expert.

If it does, it would have to be from the mini USB port. The full sized one is a master (i.e. it supplies power to devices and operates them through the tablet), and the mini one is a slave (i.e. it lets you access the device as mass storage through another).
Other than that I'm not sure. I'd be interested to know this as well.

jacobbones said:
Does the gtab take a charge from either of its usb ports?
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It does not.

I don't think that most USB ports provide enough juice to charge a battery like the G-Tab's, so they probably just didn't bother making it a possibility. My friend's iPad requires a wall wart, too.

Oh poo.
The charger I boughts a 16000mah
It can charge the ipad etc... Bought it mainly for my phone but was hoping it would charge my gtab as well.

jacobbones said:
Oh poo.
The charger I boughts a 16000mah
It can charge the ipad etc... Bought it mainly for my phone but was hoping it would charge my gtab as well.
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It will absolutely not charge through either of those ports because it was not wired that way. DO NOT TRY FORCING THIS or you will in all likelihood destroy your tab.

Hopefully a basic cable that attaches to the dock port will allow charging via usb, even if it's a slow trickle charge.
Someone here said that the SanDisk Sansa cable fits in our dock port, but I can't recall if it worked at charging or not, though I'm sure if it did we'd be all over it.

USB voltage < gTab voltage
Per the Viewsonic web site the gTab operates at 7.4V and comes with a 12V charger. USB charges at up to 5V iirc. Maybe the gTablet is set up to charge one cell of the battery at a time, but I really wouldn't count on it. Likely the battery charging system isn't even connected to the USB ports at all (but I've been wrong before).

I say you give it a shot. In addition, I will offer you $25 for it, plus shipping, after you are done. I want to try removing the anti-glare layer as an experiment.

Brick man say Smoke it
SirhanSirhan said:
I say you give it a shot. In addition, I will offer you $25 for it, plus shipping, after you are done. I want to try removing the anti-glare layer as an experiment.
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That's funny! Wrong... but funny.
Just goes to show you, "Never trust a guy who wants to by a brick!"
No it DOES NOT Charge through the USB ports. Either of them...

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[DEV] Boost USB power to NC from computer

Greetings Devs.
I found this software which promises to charge i products faster. So why not the nook? I know it works with the ipad/iphone/itouch, but not the NC (or anything else for that matter). I was looking in the ini file and managed to match up the class id of each product, and then I found the id for the NC and added this line:
HKLM, System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{3f966bd9-fa04-4ec5-991c-d326973b5128}, LowerFilters, %REG_MULTI_SZ_APPEND%, AiCharger
To both the install and uninstall filter. However, I cannot tell if it pushes extra power to just the ipad, or if it does to all of them.
Ideas? Tried digging around the sys file in hex, but nothing found. I think it would be nice if we could boost output a bit
USB Standard is 500mAh. If you somehow force your port to deliver more power you could fry it.
khaytsus said:
USB Standard is 500mAh. If you somehow force your port to deliver more power you could fry it.
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Well yeah, but no one is at least curious if this could help out at all? Maybe hardware manufactures cap it @ 5V, .5A and they override it? Maybe it provides a steadier draw somehow? Maybe they draw more power from the rails for powered-usb slots?
ace7196 said:
Well yeah, but no one is at least curious if this could help out at all? Maybe hardware manufactures cap it @ 5V, .5A and they override it? Maybe it provides a steadier draw somehow? Maybe they draw more power from the rails for powered-usb slots?
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Charging more than 500ma through the USB hardware is bad.
Lithium batteries charge at full amperage over the entire charge cycle, and just turn off the charge when they hit a certain voltage (~3.6v per cell on lipo IIRC?)
I don't think there is anything you can do from the computer side unless it tells the device itself to pull the full 500ma when it would try to pull less (for fear of overloading a USB interface, as there are usually 2 ports per USB port on a computer (IIRC.)
IMO, just use a powered USB hub?
Winmo custom roms had a quick-charge feature built in to a lot of them.
I don't think anyone fried anything.
This thread belongs in QnA though unless the op is actually developing something.
Did any naysayers even bother to look at the link? It is for Asus brand mobos only. And only certain ones are supported. Surely Asus isn't going to release an app that would fry the port...
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lafester said:
Winmo custom roms had a quick-charge feature built in to a lot of them.
I don't think anyone fried anything.
This thread belongs in QnA though unless the op is actually developing something.
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Thinking of developing the software for it...
Syco54645 said:
Did any naysayers even bother to look at the link? It is for Asus brand mobos only. And only certain ones are supported. Surely Asus isn't going to release an app that would fry the port...
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As pointed out here, this is not JUST simply software. This is the software portion of a hardware feature on Asus motherboards. The boards have a separate controller in them that allows more amperage to specific USB ports for the purpose of charging particular, high amperage items (ipad, iphone) only. As also stated here, the USB standard is a fixed 5V .5A and this isn't something that can simply be modified via software as the controllers themselves would have problems managing higher draws (not really the physical ports).
The only application this would have would be to users with those specific boards IF the software can be hacked to allow that amperage on the Nook. It may also be worth mentioning that the Nook's internal connector is different and the higher power provided by the wall charger is not over the standard USB VCC pins on the connector. I'm not familiar enough with the wiring inside the device to say for certain, but the standard charge connections from USB may be a different path than the wall charger on a charge controller.
Quick Edit: This actually doesn't appear to be the same as their hardware specific version, which most likely makes it even less useful. It looks like this enables charging in multiple standby modes and most likely forces the port to full amperage; which is typically only done after the device negotiates with the system, initial port power is much lower. My device manager shows the Nook pulling it's full 500mA already, so unless you're trying to do a lot of charging while your computer is in standby, this isn't gonna be of much use.
Edit 2: Quick bounce around the internet shows this app as causing a bit of instability and BSODs. May not be everyone, so if you're still testing this let us know if you're stable.
Infraded said:
As pointed out here, this is not JUST simply software. This is the software portion of a hardware feature on Asus motherboards. The boards have a separate controller in them that allows more amperage to specific USB ports for the purpose of charging particular, high amperage items (ipad, iphone) only. As also stated here, the USB standard is a fixed 5V .5A and this isn't something that can simply be modified via software as the controllers themselves would have problems managing higher draws (not really the physical ports).
The only application this would have would be to users with those specific boards IF the software can be hacked to allow that amperage on the Nook. It may also be worth mentioning that the Nook's internal connector is different and the higher power provided by the wall charger is not over the standard USB VCC pins on the connector. I'm not familiar enough with the wiring inside the device to say for certain, but the standard charge connections from USB may be a different path than the wall charger on a charge controller.
Quick Edit: This actually doesn't appear to be the same as their hardware specific version, which most likely makes it even less useful. It looks like this enables charging in multiple standby modes and most likely forces the port to full amperage; which is typically only done after the device negotiates with the system, initial port power is much lower. My device manager shows the Nook pulling it's full 500mA already, so unless you're trying to do a lot of charging while your computer is in standby, this isn't gonna be of much use.
Edit 2: Quick bounce around the internet shows this app as causing a bit of instability and BSODs. May not be everyone, so if you're still testing this let us know if you're stable.
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You have to use the nook's cable to quick charge. I believe it's the same on the USB side but different on the NC side.
Thanks Infraded for the helpful reply. I did a quick search and it seemed it caused more trouble than it's worth (BSOD, etc). I'll dig deeper.
I had the same issues with my iPad. If your motherboard vendor supports it, they have a BIOS update that adjusts the USB ports to charge things like the Nook and iPad.
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USB Standard is 500mAh. If you somehow force your port to deliver more power you could fry it.
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Some dell laptops (my 5400 has it) have an option in bios for USB Power Share, where they allow USB devices which know if they are connected to to wall chargers or USB plugs to charge as if they were on wall chargers.
Its epic win.
In the NC teardown, didn't they discover that the Nook Color actually uses a custom micro USB connector which is backwards compatible with the standard? It goes on to say that the NC charges only through a pair of 12V pins on the USB cable that is provided with it out of the box, and in fact when you connect your NC to your computer it is *not charging at all* even if your ROM says it is. This is consistent with my experience where the battery only goes down when plugged into my PC.
Needless to say you would need some pretty serious hardware hacks to get your PC pumping 12 volts to the USB cable.
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In the NC teardown, didn't they discover that the Nook Color actually uses a custom micro USB connector which is backwards compatible with the standard? It goes on to say that the NC charges only through a pair of 12V pins on the USB cable that is provided with it out of the box, and in fact when you connect your NC to your computer it is *not charging at all* even if your ROM says it is. This is consistent with my experience where the battery only goes down when plugged into my PC.
Needless to say you would need some pretty serious hardware hacks to get your PC pumping 12 volts to the USB cable.
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Um, no. The wall charger puts out 5 volts @ 1.9 Amps. Take a close look at the bottom of your own charger...specs are right there. Supposedly, the nook will only charge when the amperage is at least 1.9 amps. In practice it will charge as much as can minus the current it is drawing...usually more than a standard port can put out(.5A).
ie standard port = .5A
Nook draw is ~ .45A
total for charging is .05A....barely noticeable or in worst case not even enough to keep up.
Not to mention that many ports shut down entirely if they think they are sending out to much current.
send 12 volts into your nook and you will have found one of the few ways to brick it
edit: what these"hacks" for the usb ports do is raise the limiting on them to higher values..say 5 volts @ 1A or rarely 1.5A
Two of SMSC's family of transceivers supports up to 1.5A from dedicated charger ports.
Furthermore, I'm charging my nook color from my netbook right now with a standard non-OEM usb cable. So I don't think you need the standard one
Some basic info here:
http://www.smsc.com/media/Downloads/Product_Brochures/usb333x_334xfs.pdf
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Two of SMSC's family of transceivers supports up to 1.5A from dedicated charger ports.
Furthermore, I'm charging my nook color from my netbook right now with a standard non-OEM usb cable. So I don't think you need the standard one
Some basic info here:
http://www.smsc.com/media/Downloads/Product_Brochures/usb333x_334xfs.pdf
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Yeah, I'm thinking that the extra pins in the stock cable are mostly for the led in there. Going back to work monday and ordering a spare for teardown purposes with my first check. I'll let you all know exactly what I find out.
mthe0ry said:
In the NC teardown, didn't they discover that the Nook Color actually uses a custom micro USB connector which is backwards compatible with the standard? It goes on to say that the NC charges only through a pair of 12V pins on the USB cable that is provided with it out of the box, and in fact when you connect your NC to your computer it is *not charging at all* even if your ROM says it is. This is consistent with my experience where the battery only goes down when plugged into my PC.
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Except that it does charge on ANY source. If the NC is running and active it uses MORE CURRENT THAN 500mAh, so it won't charge any, but it's still getting 500mAh of juice.
If you turn off the screen, it'll slowly charge.... Around 10%/hr.
And I suspect that the 1.9A from the stock charger+cable comes from all 3 pairs, the standard pair + the two extra in the B&N cable, but it's possible that the stock cable only charges the extra two pairs. Regardless, it does charge from a standard cable on any USB port. The B&N ROM does not show charging unless it's charging at 1.9A.
ace7196 said:
Two of SMSC's family of transceivers supports up to 1.5A from dedicated charger ports.
Furthermore, I'm charging my nook color from my netbook right now with a standard non-OEM usb cable. So I don't think you need the standard one
Some basic info here:
http://www.smsc.com/media/Downloads/Product_Brochures/usb333x_334xfs.pdf
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I can also confirm nook will charge off a standard USB (at least while I've got CM7), using the stock BN cable, and definitely faster than 10%/hour. Have been doing so off my work computer for a while now. I recall that this did NOT work while the NC was virgin unrooted, however, although occasionally there'd be this weird "bump" in batt level to 100% when first connecting. Have not seen that effect since going to CM7.
last night as a test I let my nook go to 10% remaining. Then I used my daughters LG Ally cable on the stock charger for 1 hour. It charged to 24%. Then I drained back to 10% and used the stock cable for 1 hour...result?....44%. There IS something special with the stock cable. I don't think there is any magic to the charger other than the amperage.
deadbot1 said:
last night as a test I let my nook go to 10% remaining. Then I used my daughters LG Ally cable on the stock charger for 1 hour. It charged to 24%. Then I drained back to 10% and used the stock cable for 1 hour...result?....44%. There IS something special with the stock cable. I don't think there is any magic to the charger other than the amperage.
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Uh.. Yeah. As said a hundred times, the cable has 4 extra pins for charging on the MicroUSB side.

Any 3rd party chargers and cables?

Does anyone have a 3rd party charger and/or cable that will work with the TF?
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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wow!
just wow.
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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No Apple cable will work on this device. The Transformer has a proprietary charger interface, so the cable would have to be made specifically for this device.
Similarly, all Apple product chargers use their own proprietary interfaces, so chargers made for iPhones or iPads will only be made to work with iPhones or iPads, not other devices.
And the funny part is that someone responded...
bhagiratha said:
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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Haha, no iPhone cable would not work with Asus. Last I checked, Asus cable was proprietary as well.
Wait a little, soon someone's gonna dismantle one and they will be anywhere (monoprice, ebay)... (i guess(hope), the apple cable actually is everywhere even if it is proprietary...)
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
I would love an additional cable. I'm going on a trip and I could just see me losing the one and only way to charge the Transformer. Stupid proprietary cables. I still love my Asus Transformer, but we need uniformity.
seib said:
cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
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It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
I think he meant the wall charger (the one you plug the usb ipod cable in...)
A Naked Emo said:
It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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A Naked Emo said:
It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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I believe they're just referring to the charger itself not the apple sync cable. And no that isn't likely to work as the ASUS charger gives out 15V/1.2A on one of the pins unique to USB3
The 6ft USB 3 Male/Female extension cable is now back in stock on monoprice. For those that haven't been reading up, this is essentially an extension to charge your Transformer since the extra pins in USB 3 are used for power.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030309&p_id=6506&seq=1&format=2
Any car charger in the market? Off topic but optimumwifi is getting 6mbps down, 10mbps up on this baby.
Bumping this thread. I find it hard to believe (or at least surprising) that this has been out 3 months now and I still can't find any third party replacement cables and/or 15v chargers. Paying $25 for a factory one is simply not something I can do, it just makes me sick to my stomach.
The most important thing I would like to find is the cable. I did buy a monoprice USB extension cable, which at least makes using the device while charging possible - but it is no solution in the case of this factory cable breaking in any way. I always like to have an extra charging cable on hand, and usually pay $1.99 or less for such things for my other phones and tablets.
need cables
@brunes
I agree with you. This reminds me too much of the original asus eee pc. There were no additional chargers nor expansion ssd (mini pcie) available for months. People were coming up with all sorts of work around ideas. Argh.
The idea of not having a replacement cable and charger does make me very uncomfortable. This is really unacceptable, and I hope Asus fixes it immediately.
I have to think about a post I read: just buy a second one and immediately return it with the bad charger if yours goes bad. This seems to screw the retailer, but hopefully Asus covers their cost in these cases.
In any case, it is a bad problem. I wrote my newegg review to exactly highlight this problem.
Not having a replacement cable is not a very comfortable feeling.
Anyway, an iPad charger does work for the tablet. I don't have a dock so no way to test it.
However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
Q.Entity said:
However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
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It is charging at 5V. I assume using diodes to charge the cells in parallel instead of series without causing a short. Only other explanation is ASUS put DC-DC regulator in to ramp up the 5V. Only works while off or asleep and is sloooooowww...took me 8 hrs to get 22% charge on 5V USB.
a rabbit just chewed up my new transformer's cable
i emailed asus, but from my googling it looks like i'll have to spend about $40 ordering a replacement cable from a random retailer. sucks!
Check the DIY charger thread link in my signature. With 2 off the shelf parts you can have another charger for under $15.

Car Adapter vs Inverter?

The official B&N car adapter is $25 in the store. I am thinking it might be better to just get a car inverter for a little more money and use the regular wall plug that comes with the device, leaving you open to using other devices in the car too.
Thoughts?
Try this on amazon.com. This Kensington charger has a high output (2.1amp) and a low output. You need to use the Nook usb cable to charge though.
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K3...patible/dp/tech-data/B003PU01M4/ref=de_a_smtd
hwong96 said:
Try this on amazon.com. This Kensington charger has a high output (2.1amp) and a low output. You need to use the Nook usb cable to charge though.
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K3...patible/dp/tech-data/B003PU01M4/ref=de_a_smtd
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I was thinking something more like this:
http://www.amazon.com/BESTEK-invert..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1322763865&sr=1-1
And using the regular wall adapter for the nook to charge it in the car.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322765700&sr=1-1
7 dollars 2.1 amp should work and save you a couple bucks. I believe you can only use one port while charging the nook because of the split in power.
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http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322765700&sr=1-1
7 dollars 2.1 amp should work and save you a couple bucks. I believe you can only use one port while charging the nook because of the split in power.
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My only concern is, other users have said it doesn't charge quickly via powered USB, so if you had the inverter with a regular outlet plug, you could charge the nook much faster in a car with it. I guess it depends on what you look to do.
I do like the price on the one you linked though, so much better than B&N one.
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My only concern is, other users have said it doesn't charge quickly via powered USB, so if you had the inverter with a regular outlet plug, you could charge the nook much faster in a car with it. I guess it depends on what you look to do.
I do like the price on the one you linked though, so much better than B&N one.
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With a standard USB port on your PC (most are 0.5 amps), you would be absolutely correct - charging would take forever and only with the screen off. This, however, provides up to 2.1 amps - enough to charge an iPad and, presumably, a Nook Tablet quite comfortably. I would assume, however, you would need to use the included cable instead of a standard micro USB - from what I've been reading the cable has additional pins for these power requirements.
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With a standard USB port on your PC (most are 0.5 amps), you would be absolutely correct - charging would take forever and only with the screen off. This, however, provides up to 2.1 amps - enough to charge an iPad and, presumably, a Nook Tablet quite comfortably. I would assume, however, you would need to use the included cable instead of a standard micro USB - from what I've been reading the cable has additional pins for these power requirements.
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Yes, I read that the USB cable is not a standard one. So I guess I'm back to: Would the utility of getting an inverter (for about $15) be more useful than to get the <$10 USB charger. Either way, the B&N USB charger is a complete rip off at $25.
But then again, they want $20 for 2 screen protectors...
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Yes, I read that the USB cable is not a standard one. So I guess I'm back to: Would the utility of getting an inverter (for about $15) be more useful than to get the <$10 USB charger. Either way, the B&N USB charger is a complete rip off at $25.
But then again, they want $20 for 2 screen protectors...
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I guess it would depend on what you can dream up. I personally only have USB-based devices that I use in my car, hence my USB adapters. I've never felt the need for a power inverter.
If, however, you have several devices that have custom charging dongles (or plan on getting any) the inverter would be a better investment as you wouldn't have to get a separate car charger for each of those devices. Not to mention, you could power a laptop for a passenger, charge your kid's Nintendo DS, etc.
It really just depends on what you have. Sorry, I'm not being helpful with respect to a decision.
A Highpowered (2amp+) USB adapter would be more efficient than a power inverter, and take up less space. Converting 12v DC to 110v AC then back down to 5v DC is a waste of energy, and in the long term it'll put a damper on your car battery. I'd never use an inverter for more than a few minutes without the car running either. I personally use both for my charging on the go needs, especially since laptops need a bit more than 12v to charge.
Look for a USB adapter than can charge an ipad (2.1A).
I believe the Nook Tablet needs 5v 1.9A (or 1900mA), more is fine (totally safe.)
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A Highpowered (2amp+) USB adapter would be more efficient than a power inverter, and take up less space. Converting 12v DC to 110v AC then back down to 5v DC is a waste of energy, and in the long term it'll put a damper on your car battery. I'd never use an inverter for more than a few minutes without the car running either. I personally use both for my charging on the go needs, especially since laptops need a bit more than 12v to charge.
Look for a USB adapter than can charge an ipad (2.1A).
I believe the Nook Tablet needs 5v 1.9A (or 1900mA), more is fine (totally safe.)
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Based on what you said, I didn't realize until now that the 2.1amp USB adapter would charge it at the same speed as the inverter.
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Based on what you said, I didn't realize until now that the 2.1amp USB adapter would charge it at the same speed as the inverter.
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Yup, I took a quick glance at the wall-plug for the nook, and it is indeed 5v 1.9A out. So a 2.1A USB adapter is more than enough to charge a Nook at full rate.
I bought an inverter, but I use it for my laptop, too.
Cheap inverters do not have a clean sine wave and can damage electronics. You should get an inverter with a pure sine wave to be safe.
12v charger for book hd
Normal USB car chargers do not work with the nook HD. I bought a 150watt 12/240v inverter that plugs into a lighter socket. I plug the nook mains charger into the inverter and it charges the Nook no problem.

MicroUSB to HDMI adapter - UPDATE: It doesn't charge

I just got my microUSB to HDMI adapter from Monoprice and it works well. However, is it supposed to maintain current to the phone? I have it all plugged in and I get an orange light on the phone but I lost 10% battery power using it for 15 minutes. Doesn't seem right?
P.S. Monoprice customer service is excellent. I can't speak to the longevity of the products but the service is excellent.
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I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
Ozy666 said:
I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
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What is a 1A wall plug?
For the record, I am using the OEM plug connected to a microUSB cable I bought from Monoprice.
Uh oh. Did we get screwed?
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I used an AC outlet 1 amp USB charging plug to power the system with a standard micro-USB cable.
People have observed problems with charging the Rezound through a car dock, so maybe it's related to that problem as well.
I tried charging using the Monoprice cable and it charged fine. If we were unsure before, I can say for sure now that it is the adapter. I don't know if it's the one sold by monoprice or, like you said, a bug in the system. Guess I can only watch 60 min. of video (tops and end up with a dead phone) or I'm out $7... kind of think I'm out the money... and no need for the cables I bought with it. Hope others read this.
The other Monoprice cables are fine. No beef with them.
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I asked Monoprice about it. Here's what they said....
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Hello Mr. Paul,
I understand that there may be an issue with your MHL adapter you had purchased. One thing to keep in mind is that our phones are really powerful now and draw a huge amount of power. So one thing to first consider is your power draw, secondly remember most androids can tell whether it’s connected to a computer usb port or AC power supply by checking if the data pins are shorted together. Since the data pins will be in use with the MHL adapter it will never register as an AC power supply and will not draw more than 500ma of power available to a computer usb port. This is not a limitation of the MHL adapter, but rather a design flaw in the implementation of MHL itself on the phone and perhaps design flaw is a little harsh but with the implementation of the MHL on the phone, not the adapter itself. Hopefully this clears up some things for you and if the adapter isn’t going to quite work out for you I can still issue an RMA for a return for you if you like I would just need an order number to get the process started.
Thank you
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Again, good customer service. Unfortunate about the phone limitations.
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Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
feralicious said:
Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
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Based on the information from tech support above, it sound like a hardware issue.
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It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
I ordered one from monoprice too, I'll test it when I get home from vacation.
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jmorton10 said:
It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
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Ozy666 said:
Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
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I wonder if a Y adapter out of the phone to split the adapter and a charging cable would work? If there is such a thing for micro usb.
Don't think so. The phone won't draw the higher 'AC' charging current unless it sees that the data pins are shorted. If the data pins are shorted, you won't be able to get data out for the HDMI connection.
Basically, while it's nice to have only one port to keep things simple, a separate HDMI port and USB port for charging would have worked better in this case.
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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Maybe depends on what else was drawing power on your phone. If you turned off everything else, maybe you would have enough charge to stream a movie. My battery was dropping pretty fast, but I didn't try to optimize by turning off mobile data, wireless, etc...
feralicious said:
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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That would be exactly the same for the same reason, while connected to your wall charger the phone can receive 1000mA and will be in "AC" mode, when connected to your computer or another device which uses the data pins your phone will be in "USB" mode and can only receive 500mA, since your phone is capable of using as much as 1000mA this will not be enough to charge your phone if you are doing anything power intensive like say playing a movie etc. It will only supplement the battery power and keep it from draining so fast.
It should make it through a movie though. I have not tried mhl so I don't know what it draws from the phone. If you instal "battery monitor widget" from the market it will tell you what your draw is and will keep a history log of it with posts every 5 min, try playing a movie then go and check the log and see what it drains on average.
My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
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does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
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On mine, the screen turns off as soon as it shows on the TV. If you unplug the connection, phone screen comes back on.
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My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
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Are you using the phone to watch? Meaning is your screen on? It would seem that's the only way the screen size would matter. If you brought up the nexus due to my comment it was just a joke because of all the warring threads. I'm in love with the Rezound.

Dk30 won't charge when connected via usb? Any long usb cable that charges full speed?

Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
shaolin95 said:
Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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No the dock wont charge off USB. Its stipulated in the manual.
USB out are 5v... but most are only 500mAh so the charge will not register on a docking device
Any cable thats magnetically sealed so to reduce power loss, will work. Depends on the manufacture process. A cheaper cable probably wont be very effective. Branded cables are usually better, but its hit and miss. I have a Samsung 2m cable that came free with an older digital camera, and it still works very well. But not sure on a link or anything to provide you with to buy one.
I am getting a good cable now , 6', it helps me when gaming although I realized I can for the most part game with the dock station attached and it does not fall lol..not very comfy for some games but works.

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