[Q] ROM Manager newbie question - Nook Color Themes and Apps

When I run ROM Manager, I see an option that allows me to backup my current ROM. Does that backup include apps and data? I have Titanium Backup and use it, but I'm curious about this ROM Manager feature.
Thanks for any insights! I'm on a learning curve here, but enjoying it very much.

Yes. That backup is a bit image of everything. If you were to completely crash restoring that would put you right back where you are now.

Thanks for your reply! Right now, I'm running B&N's 1.2 with Manual Nooter 4.5.6. I want to compare it with CM7, so I want to get all my backup ducks lined up in a row before I go any further.
I used verygreen's installer to put CM7 on a microsd card, but the only card I had available is a PNY. It works okay, but some apps are a bit pokey, especially the Nook app. That could be the card. (Would a SanDisk card help?) But I have noticed that some apps that I have on my Fascinate (that runs Froyo) are supposedly not compatible (according to Market) with my rooted NC Froyo. But those same apps show up in the CM7 Market.
So, I'll probably get a SanDisk card and see if that helps some things (especially the Nook app). I might try flashing CM7 to internal. Anyway, I'll have my backups lined up, and I'll scan these forums for more info.
Thanks again!

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[Q] apps to sdcard for eris

how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
TD420 said:
how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
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Need more information in order to answer this question.
1. Are you rooted or are you running completely stock?
2. If you are rooted, which ROM are you currently running?
apps to sdcard
yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
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yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
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Well you may be getting ahead of yourself. Froyo-based ROMs have a built-in capability to move individual apps to your SD card. What version of KF are you running? If it's something recent, then go to Menu/Settings/CyanogenMod settings/Application settings and checkmark "Allow application moving".
You don't have to flash any zip for this. That would be for the "old" style of Apps2SD, which although not impossible to use with Froyo ROMs, requires some advanced steps that's honestly a PITA and not worth it in my opinion.
Note that not all apps can successfully be moved to the SD card, and you should not move any apps that have widgets you want to use, because if you do the widgets won't be available in the Widget selection screen.
To move the apps, go to Menu/Settings/Applications/Manage applications and select the app you want to try to move. After a slight delay, you'll see a screen with the option to "Move to SD card". If it fails then it just doesn't work with that particular app, press the back button and try it again with another.
There are apps for easier handling of moving apps in Froyo. There's one on the market I would have recommended but it recently (through an upgrade) became a crippled pay app so luckily I still have the old version.
You can use Titanium Backup to try to move all your apps to your SD card, and then you can go back in to Manage applications and move the individual apps that have widgets you want to use, back to the phone memory.
Hope this helps.
thank you. was a lot of help.
You're welcome!
Thanks as well, was looking for the step by step on how to do this.
"Glad to be of service"
^ Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
You're welcome!
I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
SmithsEnemy said:
I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
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This is confusing. 2.1 doesn't have native Apps2SD like Froyo and Gingerbread (2.2 and 2.3) have. The Apps2SD available for 2.1 ROMs use a separate partition on your SD card, not the .android-secure folder, which is only placed there by Froyo and GB (or yourself).
Do you have a nandroid of your old ROM from before you flashed GSB? If so, nandroid GSB and then restore your 2.1 nandroid and use Titanium Backup or My Backup off the Android Market to back up and restore your apps. If this is too painful without buying the pay versions of those apps (more useful, in TB you can do a batch backup and restore of all your apps instead of one at a time), then yes you should reinstall your apps manually. TB or My Backup will also backup and restore your apps' data, though, so you wouldn't have to re-enter all your apps individual settings.
Additionally, in the future, you should use some method to wipe the contents of the .android-secure folder when flashing a new ROM or a new version of a ROM, unless you are attempting a flashover (not wiping data, just wiping Dalvik cache), which is at least 50% of the time not completely successful (some things may not work correctly).
You can delete the folder manually, or...
There's an app called ROM Manager on the market. GSB (so far) also includes it. If you choose the option to "flash" the ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager, it will not actually overwrite Amon RA (assuming that's what recovery you use currently), it will allow you to load CWM Recovery from Amon RA by choosing (in Amon) to flash "update.zip", which ROM Manager places there after following the above steps.
The reason I'm detailing this is because CWM Recovery, when you choose it's Wipe Data/Factory Reset option, also wipes the contents of the .android-secure folder, and Amon RA Recovery does not. Also, using the ROM Manager method, you can still keep Amon RA Recovery on your phone, so you can have the best of both worlds.
I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
SmithsEnemy said:
I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
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I'm an idiot. LOL. Why I assumed you meant Android 2.1 instead of GSB 2.1, I don't know.
You're welcome!

What is the best way to backup my Gtab before modding?

Hi,
I am new to Android and the Gtab. I am basically curious as to what the best way is to backup my Gtab. What software and the steps to take (what is the difference between cwm and nvflash?).
I actually like the stock rom but my biggest frustration is the lack of the market which I would like to have. Having that said, I would like to run something different on the Gtab which will support the market app and not the Gmarket app. I looked around the forums and I see lots of good tutorials but it confuses me on how I backup with my stock rom before I begin any of the tutorials to upgrade to a new rom. I feel like backing up is the biggest step and don't want to mess this up so that I can revert back if I do make a mistake down the road. I'm sure once you do this a couple of times it starts to make sense but I have not done it yet and want to make sure I understand everything before I move forward.
I am a beginner but want to be able to get more out of my Gtab. Please help.
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
bnovak said:
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
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Hi,
Thanks for the post. I think I may have not worded my question right. My fault since I am new. What I mean is what do I need to do to backup my current OS I suppose. For instance, it has android 2.2 correct? I upgraded OOTB to firmware 3588 which works well but no market. What do I need to do to back this OS up so that I can revert back to it in case of any problems? Sorry if I am still confusing you guys but like I said earlier, I am completely new and still learning the phraseology and such. Thanks!
jetguy35,
Most people get Titanium Backup and backup the apps and system with a batch file in that.
That takes care of apps.
If the whole tablet gets messed up you either NVFlash back to the bekit 1105 version
per the NVFlash recovery thread in developers, if its not too bad you reinstall the
current 3588 version from a download.
There are other ways some people suggest, but I don't recommend what I haven't used and don't know about.
Good Luck!!!
Rev
An app called Titanium Backup will allow you to back up your apps and their data.
To do a complete system backup, you'll need to get clockworkmod installed (bekit .8 version), once booted into clockworkmod there is a back up option which will back up all system files and apps.
Check this thread in the development section for installing clockworkmod:
[Sticky][Guide]Install ClockworkMod, A ROM, Flash Player, and the Market Fix
Insall clockwork mod .8 and boot to recovery and backup entire rom. ..then save a copy from internal to external sd card in case you need it.
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personally (and I was in your shoes last week)
I would just go through the TNT Lite post and flash that ROM onto the tablet. If you go TNT 4.4.0 you DO NOT WANT CLOCKWORK.
It's really simple - plug in USB, copy the correct files to the tablet, push and hold pwr-volume up and give it a couple minutes.
I think the vanilla ROM is floating around so if you don't have a bunch of personalized files, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Anytime you flash it, you are going to have to add some of the programs back in anyway.
Roebeets TnT build is super fast and super stable. You won't know what hit you when you turn it on the first time.
bnovak,
That's a good idea, but not everyone is ready, or has the expertise or even wants
to move up to a ROM.
I have two tablets and one is running the experimental next generation TwoTabX ROM
that is on hold waiting for VS to do something -- and the other most of the time is
pure stock (so I can test stuff and get OTA updates etc.
When I go to work, doesn't matter which I take because both work well.
Stock is not bad!!! You should have seen the original software!!!
Rev

[Q] Considering a Nook.

I have a Droid X that I've flashed from FroYo to GB and back several times.
I just returned a Chinese, Inc. tablet that I flashed from GB to ICS and back several times.
I want a vanilla Nook Tablet (ultimately with ICS on it) or a Samsung Galaxy 2 (7.0). But since I can get a "Certified Pre-Owned" Nook 16GB for $200, I'm leaning in that direction.
So-o-o-o...
By "vanilla", I mean I want an Android tablet with an Android UI. And I have no reservations about flashing the ROM. I'm here because I want confirm my understanding of the terminologies folks are using when they're talking about the Nook Tablet.
There are two methods for turning it into a vanilla Android tablet:
1) Internal
---a) Uses CWM installed from SDCARD to ahceive root, and
---b) Uses CWM to unzip an image and flashes the ROM
2) External
---a) Uses CWM run from SDCARD to achieve root, and
---b) Uses CWM to boot the tablet from SDCARD
Am I correct so far?
I need to ask these questions because I'm finding countless web pages describing very different methods for accomplishing the same goal. Life was easier with the Droid and the Chinese tablet;
1) Run this installer on the PC
2) Point to the ROM image
3) Connect the USB cable
4) Press ENTER
I may or may not even care about flashing it back to stock. But it looks like the option is there. True? It will probably come with 1.4.2, but if I restore it to 1.4.1, it will update itself back to 1.4.2?
My head hurts.
If the NT was manufactured early as 1.4.0 you can revert back to 1.4.1 or 1.4.0. You can block the update from automatically upgrading to 1.4.2. If it is a later NT and was shipped with 1.4.2 it can NOT be rolled back. The 16 GB NT's can be rooted and flashed to an Alpha Final CM7, gingerbread that is fairly stable with some bugs that can be worked around or an Alpha 0.03 CM9, ICS that in my opinion is a little rougher that is based on a gingerbread kernal. It acts and feels like ICS. Work is still in process on both roms.
I think you should read both the development threads for the roms and the support thread for CM7 to get the whole picture. Try the search for specific questions. You will find methods and videos for most of the options.
Bill
miniblue said:
If the NT was manufactured early as 1.4.0 you can revert back to 1.4.1 or 1.4.0. You can block the update from automatically upgrading to 1.4.2. If it is a later NT and was shipped with 1.4.2 it can NOT be rolled back. The 16 GB NT's can be rooted and flashed to an Alpha Final CM7, gingerbread that is fairly stable with some bugs that can be worked around or an Alpha 0.03 CM9, ICS that in my opinion is a little rougher that is based on a gingerbread kernal. It acts and feels like ICS. Work is still in process on both roms.
I think you should read both the development threads for the roms and the support thread for CM7 to get the whole picture. Try the search for specific questions. You will find methods and videos for most of the options.
Bill
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It's definitely the wild west here. I've never had an Android device where the experience was so diverse re: root, ROM, backup and what works and what does not.
For example, I got a later-model 16GB NT and had no trouble rolling it back to 1.4.0 w/ one of the stock root methods. I know the 8GB *can't* be rolled back because the ROM image for 1.4.0 assumes 1GB RAM (the 8GB nook has 0.5 GB). But I totally believe lots of people have not been able to do a 16 GB roll-back, because my NT's [I have both a 16 & an 8 for my wife] have their share of many of the quirks mentioned in the forum - - will/won't boot w. USB, work w/ some SD cards but not others, etc.
My advice is go ahead and get the NT - they are great devices, and the 16GB especially has way better hardware than a Kindle - and just get ready for a lot of patient trial and error. You have lots of experience w/ Android & rooting, so it's just being careful and keeping backups. There are a couple of full-restore methods for the 16GB if you really get in trouble.
But, yeah - - it's more of a challenge with an NT. I also have an HTC Inspire, and that was like "here is the best root method - do it! Here's the way to install ROMs - do it! Here's the way to back up..." With the NT it's been more like trying the 2 or 3 methods for each step of the process and finding which one works best on which tablet.
But, boy, do you feel like you've accomplished something when it's finally configured and running sweet - and I know I know this device better than anything I've owned before, after all that experimenting.
Good luck! ;-)
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There are two methods for turning it into a vanilla Android tablet:
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1) Internal
---a) Uses CWM installed from SDCARD to ahceive root, and
---b) Uses CWM to unzip an image and flashes the ROM
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Actually to go internal, you don't even need to "achieve root." Boot into the normal B&N OS, mount to computer and transfer the internal rom zip file to the internal storage of the Nook. Next create the CWM bootable sd card, plug it into the nook and boot into CWM. Make a backup first thing.
Proceed to install from zip and navigate to the zip file you transferred to the Nook. Wipe data/cache and reboot. Ta da, vanilla android with whichever rom you choose.
2) External
---a) Uses CWM run from SDCARD to achieve root, and
---b) Uses CWM to boot the tablet from SDCARD
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As of now, the only rom running from sdcard external is CM7. And you don't need to fuss with CWM or anything internal to make this happen. All you need to do is burn the CM7 image to an sdcard, plug in and boot up and voila, external booting vanilla android. I should note though that some sdcards are fussy about this and some devices require you to be plugged into USB to boot from sdcard.
For simplicity sake, just go internal. You can always return to stock quite easily should you want/need to.
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As of now, the only rom running from sdcard external is CM7. And you don't need to fuss with CWM or anything internal to make this happen. All you need to do is burn the CM7 image to an sdcard, plug in and boot up and voila, external booting vanilla android. I should note though that some sdcards are fussy about this and some devices require you to be plugged into USB to boot from sdcard.
For simplicity sake, just go internal. You can always return to stock quite easily should you want/need to.
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I agree - and strong second on having a couple of SD cards ready. I had a couple of good cards that just would *not* boot with CM7 on them, felt like giving up, then finally got a cheap PNY 16GB Class 4 and it booted right away.
[If you search far enough back in the forum there's a pretty long debate about which SD cards work best, and which don't seem to work at all. Of course, nobody ever actually solved that! ;-) ]
Just don't give up if the first card you use doesn't work. It's just another place where the NT's are quirky . . .
Just a quick update to say thanks for the help.
For a short time, I actually had both a Nook and a Tab 2 (7.0). I just sent the Tab back to Amazon. It had the laggy touch-screen that some people experience.
In contrast, the Nook is built like it was made for the military! What a difference. The Tab is nice, but kind of creaky, and a little too thin for my likes. And I kept hitting the power button, I had to hold it upside-down else the WiFi was weak, ...
I sort of suspect that all the glowing reviews about the Tab's build quality are shills (I'm going catch flack for that). There's just no comparison.
Do we know who actually builds the Nook?
Happily rooting, flashing and generally trying to brick my new (Certified Pre-Owned) Nook.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
Link to the SD card test thread FYI.
Anyways, Nook is great.
I'd just root it 1st, then install CM7 to a MicroSD card (for portability and to keep the internals stock), then from CM7, block OTA updates from the CM settings.
The link in the Nook Tablet General forum with the 8/16GB MicroSD card image with Market is the one you want =D

Can't get latest Titanium Backup in CM7 (SOLVED)

I am using Veronica's CM7 mod on my NT but I am having issues with Titanium Backup. I purchased the full version and I want to remove some of the "bloatware" that's included in the ROM. This version of CM7 came with Titanium but it didn't allow me to remove apps. I tried updating to the latest version using the market but it didn't like that either. Finally I removed in included version using Root Uninstaller. I went back into the market, grabbed the latest version, but it just crashes immediately upon opening it.
This is my first successful day tinkering with NT roms/mods, am I missing something?
I'm using the SD card version of CM7 from Team B. Titanium works fine on that version.
Did you try running fix permissions and did you restore the folder to read only after removing the bloat. Those are the only thoughts I have.
Bill
miniblue said:
I'm using the SD card version of CM7 from Team B. Titanium works fine on that version.
Did you try running fix permissions and did you restore the folder to read only after removing the bloat. Those are the only thoughts I have.
Bill
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Are you able to remove and freeze apps with that version?
I figured it out. There was a problem with the way it was reading my SD card. I removed the card, formatted it in FAT32 (again) and plugging it back into my NT.
Now when I start up Titanium Backup the Backup/Restore tab shows and everything works like normal. Woohoo!
Good. Glad it's working now. And yes to your question.
Bill

[Q] Move apps to sd card on rooted S4

Hi guys, I am running cm10.1.3RC2 (so my device is rooted) and I want to utilize my 32gb SD card. Does anyone know how I can move apps to my sd card?
Also, does anyone know a safe way to re partition my internal HD so I can free up the 8.xgb of data that touchwiz used that I no longer will?
Please let me know if you can help!!
I would suggest buying and download Titanium Backup, an EXTREMELY useful app for more than just what you are asking for. With this app you can move them as easy as this! There are also several free apps that should do just what you are asking: AppMgr III, App2SD, Apps 2 SD. If you use any of those, be sure to read their instructions as the first of those three requires the SGS4 to be updated to the latest ROM first (which I don't think you want to do).
Here is a list of bloatware you can delete to free up some space. Some may take up next-to-nothing, but others may be taking up quite-a-bit. Notice that they are using Titanium Backup to make a backup first, just in case you delete something you wanted to keep or need.
You can also find ROMs like AOSP ROMs, which should help in recovering a lot of that space. But be sure to research, there are always things to take note of (i.e. many people believe the TW ROM has a better quality camera than the AOSP ROMs).
Heatshiver said:
I would suggest buying and download Titanium Backup, an EXTREMELY useful app for more than just what you are asking for. With this app you can move them as easy as. There are also several free apps that should do just what you are asking: AppMgr III, App2SD, Apps 2 SD. If you use any of those, be sure to read their instructions as the first of those three requires the SGS4 to be updated to the latest ROM first (which I don't think you want to do).
is a list of bloatware you can delete to free up some space. Some may take up next-to-nothing, but others may be taking up quite-a-bit. Notice that they are using Titanium Backup to make a backup first, just in case you delete something you wanted to keep or need.
You can also find ROMs like AOSP ROMs, which should help in recovering a lot of that space. But be sure to research, there are always things to take note of (i.e. many people believe the TW ROM has a better quality camera than the AOSP ROMs).
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Thanks for the advice! I downloaded app2sd and it says my phone is not supported. Additionally, with the flashing of the CM10.1.3RC2, I deleted all bloat ware, but still only have 9gb available.
When I follow the directions regarding moving to sd from titanium, when I clock backup/restore, no apps show up. I am using the pro version (the free version, not the pay-for version), could that be the issue?
Thanks!
I use "folder mount" as a way to move folders from my device to my sd card. I bought the app.
I'm not real sure if tibu can move them. But, to find out, go into preferences, scroll down to backup folder location and click on it. See where it has your back ups going to. If it is not to your external sd card, see if you can create a path to it. I'm not sure if it will or not, but look at it and see. Other than those two suggestions, I guess you can take the ota update as that is supposed to let you move things to the sd card, I think.
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I believe you need the paid version to do most of the useful things on Titanium Backup, I was never ever to accomplish anything with the free version.
You could try gimpy's suggestion of Folder Mount.
Nandroid Manager may let you do something in their free version, not sure though.
You can also try this method, but this will just make sure everything from then on will go onto your SD card (which will act like internal memory).
kr0th said:
Thanks for the advice! I downloaded app2sd and it says my phone is not supported. Additionally, with the flashing of the CM10.1.3RC2, I deleted all bloat ware, but still only have 9gb available.
When I follow the directions regarding moving to sd from titanium, when I clock backup/restore, no apps show up. I am using the pro version (the free version, not the pay-for version), could that be the issue?
Thanks!
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RootExplorer is free and you can move and rename any folder. I would use this over folder mount just in my opinion. Easy to find your apps and move them right to your extsd card. But there are a ton of options. And for what your talking about on Titanium you have to have the pro version free doesn't let you.

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